Refugee Problem in Hong Kong and Macao | US Congress | 1962





HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE PROBLEM

CONNECTED WITH REFUGEES AND ESCAPE

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

UNITED STATES SENATE

EIGHTY -SEVENTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

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COMMITTEE THE JUDICIARY

JAMES 0. EASTLAND, Mississippi, Chairman

ESTES KEFAUVER, Tennessee ALEXANDER WILEY , Wisconsin

OLIN D. JOHNSTON , South Carolina EVERETT MCKINLEY DIRKSEN , Illinois

JOHN L. McCLELLAN , Arkansas ROMAN L. HRUSKA , Nebraska

SAM J. ERVIN , JR., North Carolina KENNETH B. KEATING , New York

JOHN A. CARROLL, Colorado HIRAM L. FONG , Hawaii

THOMAS J. DODD , Connecticut HUGH SCOTT , Pennsylvania

PHILIP A. HART , Michigan

EDWARD V. LONG, Missouri

SUBCOMMITTED TO INVESTIGATE PROBLEMS CONNECTED WITH REFUGEES AND

ESCAPEES

PHILIP A. HART, Michigan , Chairman

OLIN D. JOHNSTON, South Carolina ALEXANDER WILEY, Wisconsin

JOHN L. MCCLELLAN, Arkansas HIRAM L. FONG, Hawaii

 

CURTIS E. JOHNSON , Staff Director

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CONTENTS

Hearings held at Washington ,D.C., on

Tuesday, May 29, 1962 ( including the testimony in executive session Page

released for the public record) 1

Thursday, June 7, 1962 .

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Friday, June 8, 1962. 87

Thursday , June 28, 1962. 105

Tuesday, July 10, 1962.. 151

Statement of -

Anderson , Donald E. , director, Lutheran Immigration Service ---

> 106

Bagration, Teymuraz K. , executive secretary , Tolstoy Foundation,

Inc. 81

Brown, Richard R., Director, Office of Refugee and Migration Affairs,

Department of State .. 13

Channel, William W. and Edward F. Snyder, American Friends

Service Committee and Friends Committee on National Legislation . 63

Chennault, Mrs. Claire L., president, Chinese Refugee Relief; accom

panied by Mr. Eng Se-Suey and family. 88

Chin , Irving Sheu Kee, attorney, firm of Holtzmann, Wise & Shepard,

New York , N.Y.. 133

Corcoran, Thomas. 98

Dixon, Ross I., president, Shanghai Tiffin Club , New York, N.Y 143

Harriman, Hon. W. Averell, Assistant Secretary of State for Far

Eastern Affairs , Department of State . 6

Hong, Ngai Ho, Chinese -American Citizens Alliance, San Francisco,

Calif.; accompanied by Earl Louie - 147

Keating, Hon. Kenneth B., a U.S. Senator from the State of New

York . 2

Lee, David, treasurer, Chinese Refugee Relief 123

ofindery

MacCracken, James, director, Immigration Service, Church World

Service, National Council of Churches . 27

Pettiss, Mrs. Susan, associate director, International Social Service,

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American Branch -- 57

Reuter, Richard, executive director, CARE, Inc. 43

Swanstrom , MostReverend Edward E., executive director, Catholic

Relief Services, National Catholic Welfare Conference ; accompanied

by Monsignor John F. McCarthy, 33

Vanden Heuvel, William J., president, International Rescue Com

mittee ; accompanied by Miss Deanna Chu.-- 49

Waters, Herbert J. , assistant administrator ., Office of Material

Resources, Agency for International Development. 151

Yee, Samuel E., Chinese- American Citizens Alliance, San Francisco,

Calif . 126

Appendix

Hong Kong Government Policy Statement on Immigration from

China and offers of help from overseas, June 13, 1962 163

Letter from Hon . Robert F. Kennedy, Attorney General, to Hon .

Philip A.Hart, on the progress of the Hong Kong parolee program,

July 17, 1962 166

Letter from Richard R. Brown, Director, Office of Refugee and Migra

tion Affairs, Department of State, to Hon. Philip A. Hart, on

refugee situation in Macao and the Far East refugee program ... 167

Memorandum from Martin J. Forman to Herbert J. Waters, Agency

for International Development, on the refugee situation in Macao,

June 18, 1962 170

Letterfrom P. Y. Tsao, counselor, Permanent Mission of the Republic

of China to the United Nations, to Dale S. de Haan, May 24, 1962.. 172

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Appendix - Continued

Statement by Rev. Claude H. Curtis, president, Gospel Missions, Inc. , Pago

Wahiawa, Oahu , Hawaii . 170

Letter from Rhoads Murphey, editor, the Journal of Asian Studies,

to Curtis E. Johnson , June 6 , 1962 . 176

Statement by Dr. Peter S. H. Tang, executive director, Research

Institute on the Sino- Soviet bloc, Washington, D.C --- 177 ,

Telegram fromMrs. J.Fount Tillman, president, Woman's Division

of Christian Service, Boardof Missions, Methodist Church, to Hon.

Philip A. Hart, June 8, 1962. 179

Statement by Herman Will, Jr., associate general secretary, Division

of Peace and World Order, General Board of Christian Social

Concerns, Methodist Church 179

Letter from Donald E. Anderson, director, Lutheran Immigration

Service, to Hon. Philip A. Hart.. 180

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REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

TUESDAY, MAY 29, 1962

U.S. SENATE ,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON REFUGEES AND ESCAPEES

COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY,

Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:05 a.m., in room

2228, New Senate Office Building, Senator Philip A. Hart ( chairman

of the subcommittee )presiding.

Present: Senators Hart ( chairman ), Dirksen ,and Fong,S. de Haan,

Also present : Curtis E. Johnson, staff director; Dale

research consultant; and Earl Nishimura, minority counsel.

Senator HART. The committee will be in order.

While Senator Fong, of Hawaii, who has always had a very deep

concern in the area we shall consider today, is going to be here, I think

in fairness to Mr. Harriman we should begin.

I anticipate Senator Fong will arrive very shortly, Mr. Secretary.

Senator Dirksen was very kind to join us, and the committee ap

preciates this.

Today the Subcommittee on Refugees and Escapees begins hearings

on the problem of refugees from Communist China in Hong Kong.

Almost a year ago when this subcommitteewas studying refugee

matters, generally ; we heard testimony from Dr. Luther Evans, who

had conducted a study of this particular problem as a special con

sultant to the Department of State.

His report disclosed that about 1 million refugees were in Hong

Kong and that while the situation was not without difficulty, the

Crown Colony Government, with some assistance from other govern

ments, including the United States, and voluntary relief agencies,

was managing to cope with it. More recently, of course, this situa

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tion drastically has changed.

Beginning about the first of May, daily refugee arrivals began to

number in the thousands.

The Hong Kong Government, unable to contend with this unusual

flood of refugees, found it necessary to send them back across the

Chinese border.

The necessity for this decision came with the shock of a douse of

ice water to the people of the free world. Until that moment many

people had felt that the problem of the Chinese refugees should be

the responsibility of the Government ofHong Kong. I believe it

can now be said , fairly , of the majority of Americans, that they now

believe the problem is one for all free people.

The mail I have received has been overwhelmingly for assistance

to the Chinese refugees.

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These hearings are addressed to the problem of what can be done

to provide effective relief and assistance. To what extent is immi

gration of Chinese refugees to the United States and other countries

a feasible solution ?

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Are additional food and relief supplies needed ?

Are the present programs which the American people support

privately and through Government adequate to the need ?

What are the implications of the recent mass exodus from Red

China ?

How do we account for its virtual halt within the last few days ?

Should we be prepared for a new wave of refugees?

Whatever the answers to these questions, we have long been aware

of the fact that 1 million refugees are already jammed into an area

of about 60 square miles in Hong Kong. This is a problem that just

won't go away, and our job today and in the additional hearings which

will follow is to try to gather the facts which will enable us to deter

mine how to deal with this problem .

Senator Dirksen, would you care to make any comment at this

point ?

Senator DIRKSEN. Well, I have no comment to make. I think your

statement points up the general problem . 16

In addition , probably other problems will intrude themselves as the

hearing goes on. To say the least this is a very delicate matter in

volving other things besides refugees, and all of those factors will

have to be taken into account.

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Senator HART. All right.

Thank you , sir. .0

Mr. Secretary,we welcome you. I know the urgency of your sched

ule. I know also the urgency of Senator Keating's. It had been our M

plan to hear the Secretary first, but, Ken, would you like to get on ?

Senator KEATING. No, I would yield to the Secretary. I have an

other committee starting at the same time and it is our usual situation .

Senator Hart. Mr. Secretary, if it's all right — let me say this TE

Mr. HARRIMAN . I will be glad to wait.

Senator KEATING. I have just checked with the other committee.

They are going to be аa. little bit late, and the Secretary's statement is

very short, and he has been so courteous to me on many occasions that I

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I would prefer to have you hear him first.

Mr. HARRIMAN . Mr. Chairman, I am at your disposition, 31

Senator Hart. It occurs to me, Senator, that even though your

other committee meeting is marking time, that all of us might be a

little more comfortable if you did proceed . You would then be free

to leave.

Senator KEATING . Yes, I will abide.

Senator HART. Senator Keating.

STATEMENT OF HON . KENNETH B. KEATING, A U.S. SENATOR FROM 4

THE STATE OF NEW YORK

Senator KEATING. I would be very happy to see him here beside

me, a veryable person and I know will give very interesting testi

mony and Ishall read a copy of his remarks with great interest.

I would like to commend , Mr. Chairman, the efforts which you and

the members of the subcommittee have taken to get at the heart of

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this worldwide refugee problem , and particularly am I pleased that

the subcommittee isnow giving attention to one of what seems to

me, history's most heartrending episodes in human misery, the refu

gees from Communist China in Hong Kong.

The refugee problem in Hong Kong has not developed overnight.

The State Department has informed me that over 3 million refugees

have fled Communist China since the end of World War II.

Of this number 1 million refugees live in the teeming city of Hong

Kong alone. This long -developing problem has become acute in re

cent months, however, because of the dramatically accelerating rate

of influx into Hong Kong and because of the forced return of thou

sands of refugees to Red China by the British .

Since the end of World War II the flow of people has always been

to freedom and away from communism . Hungary, Cuba, East Ger

many, and now China are clear examples of the desire of most human

beings to escape from tyranny and live in freedom .

In no corner of the world has the tide of humanity reversed this

course . There has been no exodus from freedom to tyranny, and I am

confident there never will be. In the long -range battle for the support

of mankind, this is certainly compelling evidence that the free world

must ultimately prevail.

Has the free world really lived up to its responsibilities in this area !

It has done a great deal for the Hungarians, the Cubans, and the East

Germans. But, whether it shocks our sensitivities or not, it must be

said that it has failed dismally in relation to refugees from Communist

China.

To begin with , our immigration laws have discriminated against

orientals almost from their inception.

In 1961 , for example, only one one -thousandth of all quota immi

grants admitted to the United States were Chinese. Our programs

for refugee relief have also failed to make provision for Hong Kong

refugees.

The President's statement that Chinese now awaiting admission to

the United States under the first preference quota will be admitted on

parole, will be of some assistance, although a substantial question has

been raised as to whether this is more than a token gesture.

I have just learned that despite conditions in Hong Kong,we have

been regularly deporting Chinese nationals from the United States to

that city until very recently.

Many ofthese deporteeshave resided in the United States for over

10 years. How many ofthese people, after arriving in Hong Kong,

have been forced by British authorities to return to communism can

not be determined at this time.

However, I am pleased to state that the Immigration Service has

informed me that at least for the time being no further deportations to

Hong Kong will be made.

An enlightened immigration policy and a more equitable refugee

relief program would help the Hong Kong problem . But if we are

to face facts, we must admit that even the most enlightened immigra

tion and refugee policies would not solve this crisis. The most far

reaching legislation proposed would not allow the United States to

offer refuge to more than an infinitesimal number of those seeking es

cape from Red China .

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We must keep in mind the basic elements of this crisis : First, that 14

the number of human beings potentially involved is unmatched by

any previous situation ; secondly, that the fundamental reason for

this exodus appears to be economic ' more than political ; and thirdly, LI

that despite the understandably economic motivation of the hungry D

masses fleeing Red China, this exodus can become a major political

and psychological victory for the West in the conflict with com

munism.

If we are to achieve this victory, one thing is essential: we must 3

not turn our backs on these victims of communism's failures, and

we cannot allow a wall to be built against others seeking relief.

I do not question the good faith or sincerity of any of our allies.

But this is a time for boldness and sacrifice and not a time for mute

surrender to so -called practical considerations.

We refused , after the Korean armistice, to return any prisoners who

did not want to return to communism . We are still at war with

Red China, or to put it more accurately, Red China is still at war

with the world .

If we refused to forcibly return former enemy soldiers behindthe 3

Chinese Wall, how can we now permit the forcible return of fellow

human beings who have never fought against us and who seek only

food, peace, and freedom ?

The exodus from Red China is a challenge to the West but it must

not be viewed as a threat. It is a challenge to the ability of free

societies to mobilize their resources for the relief of massive human

suffering. If we succeed we will have built on a Communist failure the

most dramatic demonstration in recent history of the superiority of

the free world's system over communism .

I hope that the American people, who have always been strongly

united in the fight against communism , will grasp this opportunity il

to turn a Communist setback into aa Communistrout.

What I propose specifically is 91

(1) that we send to Hong Kong whatever quantities of food and

medicine may be needed and thatthis material be airlifted if necessary ;

( 2 ) that we send to the area as many ships and planes as may be

required to transport the refugees to Formosa and other parts of the

world willing to accept them ;

(3 ) that the free world establish a fund for sharing the costs of

resettlement and rehabilitation in any country, including Hong Kong

and Formosa ; and

( 4 ) that the Peace Corps establish a special project for working

with the Chinese refugees ; they can help build shelters, they can help

distribute food, they can help teach new languages, and they can

help in the processes of resettlement.

How much would all of this cost ? Far less, I am certain , than we

spent saving South Korea, or propping up Laos or Vietnam; far less

even than we have spent in an effort to buy the neutrality of Com

munist Poland and Yugoslavia, perhaps even less than the cost of

one nuclear carrier, or the cost of storing feed grains for pigs and

chickens in warehouses throughout the country,

The exodus from Red China is proof that communism is losing

its case. Will this be a hollow victory for the free world or a decisive

victory, is the question . And the answer depends on whether we

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will meet this economic challenge with the same ingenuity and de

termination with which we would meet a military challenge of the

same order .

I hope we can convince our allies that the tremendous stakes in

volved in this issue justify, extraordinary measures. If we fail to

mount a joint effort, the United States must nevertheless not forfeit

this opportunity.

Success will contribute to our strength against communism more

than any other measure we could now pursue. I believe with all my

heart that the forces of freedom in this world can alleviate the suf

fering which the whole world knows is being caused by communism's

failures, and I am confident that this subcommittee under your leader

ship , Mr. Chairman, will urge whatever programs are required for

this purpose.

Thank you very much .

Senator HART.Senator, the suggestions you make, at least in some

cases, are dramatic enough to indicate that given that kind of leader,

ship and will, America can turn a defeat, in this case of Red China,

into a rout.

I am glad you made the point, becauseI think right at the outset of

these hearings we ought to put some things in focus around here.

All of us are concerned about our image and reputation in the rest of

the world. Everything that happens we test to discover, among

other things, how it affects our image.

There hasbeen some expression of concern that our image has been

damaged by the situation in Hong Kong. A reverse English wall

has gone up:

Let's get it straight. The most badly damaged imageas a con

sequence of incidents in Hong Kong is communism's . The Com

munist image, Red China's specifically, and the systemin general are

damaged. It is a demonstration of overwhelming failure. The de

feat is the Communist's; the failure is theirs; the image damage is

theirs.

True, our response is observed by a waiting world ; but first things

first .

If what has happened to Red China had happened to us, it would

have been a demonstration of complete failure on our part. But

it happened to Red China. I am glad that you made the point.

Senator Dirksen ?

Senator DIRKSEN. I have no questions at this time.

Senator HART. Senator FONG ?

Senator Fong. I just want to say, Mr. Chairman, Senator Keating

in his very powerful, dynamic, and forceful statement has again

demonstrated his great leadership in the cause for justice, freedom ,

and for liberty . I want to commend him for this very, very fine

statement. It is a strong statement. SenatorKeating has been in

the forefront of this battle for freedom , and I hope that this com

mittee can help him in his fight.

Senator KEATING . I appreciate that very much, I may say to my

colleague.

Senator Hart. Thank you very much.

Senator DIRKSEN. Ken , one question. You haven't introduced any

legislation , have you ?

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Senator KEATING . No, I have not. I thought perhaps as a result

of these hearings something might develop. Of course, I recognize

perfectly well that most of the suggestions that I have made do not

deal with the immigration aspect. I think without any question we D

should, in addition to that, take the leadership and a fair share of PT

these refugees , but the number is so tremendous that that alone , the

free world couldn't possibly absorb all of them . We must do more IM

than that, and it does seem to me that for those who want to go there ,

the normal place for them to go , to help them to go is to Formosa.

Senator HART. Thank youvery much.

Senator KEATING. I shall read the Governor's statement with great TI

interest.

Mr. HARRIMAN . You wouldn't have to stay long to read it.

Senator Hart. Mr. Secretary, thank you for your patience, and

we welcome you.

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STATEMENT OF HON . W. AVERELL HARRIMAN, ASSISTANT SECRE

TARY FOR FAR EASTERN AFFAIRS, DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Mr. HARRIMAN . Senators, I appreciate this opportunity to discuss It

with you a very vital problem , and your subcommittee, may I say ,

has been of great value in the past and I know will be in the future in

dealing with the problems of refugees and escapees throughout the

world .

As Senator Keating has said , there is a dramatic new problem that

has developed as the result of the heavy flow of people from Red China

into Hong Kong ont

Now , beginning about the first of May, the number of Chinese he

refugees trying to enter Hong Kong increased spectacularly as you

well know 20

Each week for years past, dozens or perhaps hundredshad been mak

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ing the attempt, often at the risk of being shot by the Communist

border guards.

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For reasons we do not know , the Communist guards suddenly

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stopped trying to prevent border crossing. News of this sort spreads

rapidly in China. Where dozens had been, there were tens of

thousands. to

This drew the spotlight of public attention to the Hong Kong ful

border. But it was not a new situation . Since 1948 hundreds of

thousands of Chinese refugees have fled to Hong Kong, first to escape

theadvancing Communist troops and later to escape the hopeless life 0

which Communist leaders imposed on China . This flow has brought the

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to Hong Kong over á million of its 3 million people, its present

population ,

În Hong Kong these refugees have been resettled and provided with thi

medical assistance, housing, and educational facilities. The govern- den

ment and people of Hong Kong have accomplished this primarily

through their own efforts and from their own resources, and they

deserve thefree world's praise and thanks for it.

Most of the refugees have found jobs to support themselves in Hong

Kong's rapidly expanding private enterprise economy. Most impor

tant of all, the Hong Kong government has treated them on the same

footing, as other residents and has insured them the opportunity to

live their own lives in freedom .

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The people and Government of the United States have long been

aware of the Hong Kong refugee situation. American voluntary

agencies operating in Hong Kong have, since 1954,distributed surplus

a value of over $ 30 million , under Public Law 480, title III.

food with a

These agencies have also contributed clothing, health supplies, and

other necessities to meet immediate needs of the refugees and help

them support themselves.

These contributions apart from food provided under Public Law 480

represent the direct gifts of individual Americans and amount to

millions of dollars each year.

Under the Far East refugee program the U.S. Government has

provided funds and other help amounting to about $8 million for

resettlement, medical aid, housing, education, vocational training,

and community centers.

The American people can justly take pride in this effort. At the

same time we should remember that it is aа . small fraction of what the

Hong Kong government has spent to provide new housing, schools,

health services, and such basic needs as water supplies for the in

creased population .

It now appears that the spectacular flow of border crossers has

stopped, at least for the time being. Perhaps the Chinese Commu

nist authorities could no longer tolerate this revelation to the outside

world that so many Chinese people wish to leave “ People's China.'

Smaller numbers of them will probably continue to escape as was

the case in the past years. The needs of the refugees in Hong Kong

will continue. I am sure the American people will continue to help.

As the President stated last Wednesday, we are making arrange

ments as rapidly as possible for several thousand Chinese refugees to

come to the United States. It is evident that resettlement of Chi

nese refugees here and in other countries can in some degree help the

situation , and in addition to what we can do in this direction ourselves

we would consider sympathetically requests to help other countries

take in numbers of these refugees. We are in touch with the Chinese

Government in Taipei to learn more about its proposal to resettle

numbers of Chineserefugees on Taiwan .

We must remember that the increased flow of Chinese refugees into

Hong Kong is but a small aspect of a vast problem. The root of this

problem is in China . Beforethe Communists seized power in main

land China, Chinese people on a number of occasions went to Hong

Kong to escape disasters in their home areas .

On those occasions the disasters were local and temporary, and

when they had passed the refugees almost all went home again. What

today's refugees have fled is the cumulative result of 12 yearsof Com

munist rule . There is no sign that the recent border crossings came

about because conditions where these people lived had taken a sud

den turn for the worse. They were not starving.

In fact, our information indicates, that there was no physical evi

dence of malnutrition. But most of them are farmers, and they were

well aware that what Communists had done to agriculture in China

was a ' worse disaster than the most severe natural calamities they

had seen or heard of.

Others were industrial workers largely from Canton ." They had

lost their jobs because the collapse of agriculture has severely affected

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industry. They had learned that the Communist authorities planned

to send perhaps 200,000 of them to the farm villages. They might

have jobs of a sort there but the main purpose would be to have them

fed there,relieving the city authorities of this responsibility.

The Chinese are an eminently pragmatic people. They believed

that life in Hong Kong would be better than what they could foresee

in the Chinese Communists' promises. They saw a chance to try to

getinto Hong Kong, and they took it .

Hundreds of thousands ofother Chinese would, by all accounts,do

the same if they could . This is the most telling commentary possible

on what the Chinese people think of the Communist system in action.

We can be sure, I believe, that the Hong Kong governmentwill con

tinue to give safe haven to numbers of escapees from Communist

China, as they have in the past, and to the extent possible integrate

them into the Hong Kong economy. For our part, we should con

tinue our assistance to this humane endeavor.

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Senator HART. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

I have just one question in our preliminary exchange here.

Do you know whether or not this step -up in the number of refugees,

heavy influx, was anticipated ?

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Mr. HARRIMAN. I don't know of any advance warning. I think

there were perhaps a few days' notice, but no great notice, and the

reasons,, of course, are very complicated. What induced the authori

ties to permit, suddenly permit, this increase in the issuance of exit

permits; I think the increase in exit permits in Canton started in

April, so there was some advance notice that they were given them,

and, of course , when the word went around there would be an increase

in exit permits, why other people applied and much to their surprise

they were given them .

Whether they were let out in order to relieve the Canton authorities

of their responsibility of feeding more people than they felt they

could or what induced them to do this or what induced the central

Communist authorities to permit these large numbers to leave is very

hard to understand ,

What seems to be clear is when they found this enormous number

leaving they felt their reputation in the world couldn't stand this

exposéof the desires, which I think is pretty widespread throughout

China, of the Chinese people wanting to get out from under the dis

astrous economic and social conditions , which have been caused by the

Communist rule.

Senator Hart. I take it from your concluding comments then , that

you do not anticipate, in the near future at least, a resumption of this

kind of mass flow?

Mr. HARRIMAN . Senator, I don't know. We can't guess what they

are goingto do. There is no indication they do planto permit a new,

large exodus. They have permitted a few people to leave for various

reasons, but most of those who have gotten out are in the category of

escapees through Macao or Hong Kong,

Senator HART. Senator Dirksen ?

Senator DIRKSEN. Governor, does anybody have a theory as to why

this stopped as quickly as it began ?

Mr. HARRIMAN. The only theory that I have heard advanced is that

they could not stand the world propaganda exposé of the numbers of

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people who weredissatisfied with the regime in Red China. That is

the only explanation that I have heard.

It ismore difficult to explain why they permitted them to come. I

think the exposition of the reasons I gave you of why they clamped

down is the reason .

Senator DIRKSEN . Under all practical circumstances, I would as

sume that w re this exodus could be counted in terms of dozens or

perhaps hundreds of a week before and then jumped into the thou

sands

Mr. HARRIMAN . Perday.

Senator DIRKSEN . That it must have been an inspired effort of some

kind.

Mr. HARRIMAN. I don't think that there is any evidence to that

effect. They permitted more exit visas and people responded to the

privilege of getting an exit permit in these very large numbers.

Why they permitted the exit visas to be increased there can only be

speculation. But one speculation isthat thePeiping authorities found

it very difficult to feed the people there, and this was a way to reduce

their responsibility for feeding people with an inadequateamount of

food , to fulfill the ration , the very low ration.

As I have said in my testimony, the information we have is that

they had already provided for 200,000 Cantonese to be moved, to be

thrown out of Canton, and be returned to their villages, and that, of

course, created a great deal of difficulty in the villages, where the

villages simply saw more mouths to be fed, and some of them then

decided if they could get exit visas they would leave.

There is also some indication that unemployment has been created

by the inability of the Peiping authorities to import the necessary raw

materials to keep the factories going.

So that there is no doubt that the evidence indicates, I should say,

rather than no doubt, the evidence indicates, if they were permitted

to do so there would be enormous exodus from all over China wanting

to escape the people's paradise and, of course, in fact, this is not dif

ferent than what exists in almost all, if not all , of the Communist

countries.

For years we have known of the desire of people of Russia or the

Eastern European countries, to leave their countries and find life

in freedom . But they haven't been permitted to do so as you well

know . I think the most spectacular example of restraint is the wall

that was built in Berlin which exploded for all time the claim of the

communists of the worker's paradise behind the Iron Curtain.

Senator DIRKSEN. I notice in your statement you say that there is

no evidence that they were actually impelled by starvation or mal

nutrition . I would assume that is based upon some examination or

survey ofthe people?

Mr. HARRIMAN . Yes.

Of course, we are depending upon the rather superficial examina

tion that the British authorities in Hong Kong were able to make.

Generally speaking, throughout China, instead of the historic starva

tion that occurred when there was bad crop in certain areas with

normal food in other areas, the Communists have distributed the

hunger, we might say, although some communities are better off, some

professions are better off than others, the army, for instance, but

10 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

generally speaking, they have reduced the ration all over China in

order to distribute the food, which from our information seems to

indicate that the nation as a wholeis getting a substandard diet, so

low it is impossible to maintain full vigor of work but yet adequate

to prevent starvation .

Senator DIRKSEN. Was there any hint, in any information avail

able, that these refugees are diffused all over China or is it a concen

trationof people coming from a single province ?

Mr. HARRIMAN. It seems to come from the Kwangtung Province,the

one around Canton, and according to our information from the British

most of them came from within a radius of 150 miles and not from

farther afield .

Senator DIRKSEN. So it is really a concentrated exodus from a

limited area ?

Mr. HARRIMAN . This seemed to be started from an increase in exit

permits given by the Canton authorities. But this is preliminary in

formation, and † speak of it as what our information indicates rather

than beingable to testify that these are facts.

Senator DIRKSEN . I think that is all .

Mr. HARRIMAN . But, of course, the British have given us the in

formation that they have been able to glean from those escapees, those

people theyhave rounded up , and spoken to.

Senator HART. Senator Fong ?

Senator Fong. Governor, have you sufficient knowledge to say

whether the reasonsare greater or the depth of feeling is greater in

the Chinese people, in leaving China for Hong Kong as compared to

the Germans in East Germany leaving East Germany for West

Germany ?

Mr. HARRIMAN . I have no way to compare the two. I think it is

quite evident these people came out because they believed they could

get a better life for themselves and their families in Hong Kong than

in remaining in the communities, and that generally confirms the

stories we hear of dissatisfaction throughout the whole of China.

Senator FONG. Governor, you are the Assistant Secretary for Far

Eastern Affairs and you did not touch upon the question of allowing

some refugees to come to the United States.

Before this committee there is aproposition that we should allow

some refugees to come to the United States.

The President hastalked in terms of approximately several thou

sand refugees, and Senator Hart has introduced a bill asking that

50,000 refugees be allowed to come to the United States from the whole

world .

If some refugees were allowed to come to the United States, how

would that improve our image as far as the Far East is concerned,

especially southeast Asia ?

Mr. HARRIMAN. Well, as you know, I quote here from the Presi P

dent's statement the other day, press conference, that under existing

law, he was planning to make arrangements for several thousands to

be admitted into this country .

I have already had a good reaction from some of our Asian friends

who are here in Washington . Although this is relatively a small

amount, it indicates a changed attitude toward immigration from

Asian countries, and therefore, my answer is that admitting more

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Asians or not discriminating against Asians in our immigration laws

would improve our image, if you wish toput it that way, or our good

will, to put itanother way, among the Asian people.

Senator Fong. Would that be universal among the Asian people ?

Mr. HARRIMAN . I would think it would be universal.

Senator FONG. And you would recommend that we do admit some

refugees ?

Mr. HARRIMAN . I haven't studied the legislation, frankly, that is

before you .

Senator Fong. Asa generalproposition ?

Mr. HARRIMAN . But I fully support the President's position ad

mitting some immediately under the existing law.

Senator Fong. Thank you.

Senator DIRKSEN. They can under existing law parole Asians into

the country as well ?

Mr. HARRIMAN. That I understand is the position taken by the

Attorney General.

Senator Hart. That is a good answer. That sounds like a lawyer's

answer ,and I would say it is a very good lawyer's answer .

Mr. HARRIMAN . I think the Attorney General as a result of his

extraordinarily and very interesting trip to the Far East has a very

keen understanding of our problems.

I think no American has had more success in so rapid a time in

understanding the attitudes of an important group of the Asian

people, namely, the youth. He talked with them frankly and it

wasn't his debate with the Communists that made the impression, but

answeringthe normal and legitimate questions of young students

about the United States and what we are tryingto do, and particularly

in Japan where I followed him , I found thathis visit had been very

effective, and was the first public communication between the United

States and the youth of Japan, and it indicated the need for more

communication with the new rising generation.

It also gave him an insight into our problems.

Senator DIRKSEN. Governor, in view of the fact that there is abun

dant authority in Public Law 480 to provide the necessary food from

our surpluses, and there seems to be sufficient authority in the Mc

Carran -Walter Act to provide for the administration of parolees,

do you know whether the administration contemplates additional legis

lation with respect to this immediate problem ?

Mr. HARRIMAN . Well, the problem is under consideration as a mat

ter of emergency because of the enormous flow which occurred, and

the most regrettable aspect of so many of them being turned back.

That, of course, that has been, that study has been ended because

of the stop inflow. Whether this concentration of public opinion on

the whole problem of resettlement of refugees coming to Hong Kong

or Taipei “should require new legislative authority will be studied,

in a more from a long-range standpoint but theneed for emergency

measures has been stoppedby this check now in the flood of im

migration,

Of course, as far as Hong Kong is concerned, we immediately offered

more food to them to take care of their people. They were unwilling,

as you know , to set up a refugee camp.

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They have maintained that their responsibility was not to establish

refugee camps with all the misery that goes with that but those they

permitted to remain in Hong Kong should be integrated into the 1

economy as rapidly as possible, and I think all of us who have been

to Hong Kong have - must respect the responsible attitude of the

Hong Kong authorities which they have taken toward those they

have permitted to remain .

Incidentally, there has been a larger outflow of emigrants. The

legal and illegal entry into Hong Kong, I am told, from the first of

the year, up to the third week in May, has been 45,000 which they are, +

I understand, planning to integrate into their economy.

And incidentally, if I may take this opportunity to put it into the

record, the assistanceto the Hong Kongauthorities andthe assistance

to the resettlement of the refugees should not be limited only to food FD

HAN

and relief supplies, but I think we should give encouragement to the

Hong Kong authorities to give them jobs, and this should be con

sidered in connection with legislation permitting the entry of manu

factured products from Hong Kong because only through exports can

these people in Hong Kong live.

I was very much impressed with the need for continued opportunity

for the sale of their manufactured goods to the United States, and I

discovered , as one usually does, information which one doesn't know

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until one goes to a place. On balance we were selling more to Hong

Kong, slightly more than we were buying from Hong Kong so that

I commend to this committee to give consideration to giving oppor TI

tunities for helping the Hong Kong authorities in giving opportunity

for employment. Th

Senator DIRKSEN . Has that matter been discussed in the State

Department ?

Mr. HARRIMAN . It is constantly discussed, this whole matter

Senator DIRKSEN . No, I mean the admission of Hong Kong goods

under preferential treatment ?

Mr. HARRIMAN . No, because it is tied in with our very complicated

procedures in connection with our general tariff legislation, and our

general tariff agreements.

I think that many of the decisions that are made are effected by

public attitude, and the attitudeof labor and management in connec be

tion with permitting small quantities of manufactured goods to come

into Hong Kong.

They are tiny percentages of our total consumption of these items AN

in this country . IN

Senator HART. Mr. Secretary, the committee is to hear also , as you TI

know , Richard Brown, the Director of the Office of Refugee Affairs

in the Department. 21

:, I feel that if your schedule permits it, and following such questions WY

as may be directed to Mr. Brown, the committee would then proceed

in executive session to review with you certain of the I think we used

the word “ delicate ” -items that attach necessarily to our subject.

Then we might have a record here which would help all of us in the no

Congress to better understand our responsibilities.

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Mr. HARRIMAN . Senator, I will be very glad to stay as long as the

committee wishes me to.

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Senator Hart. Our next witness is Richard R. Brown, the Director

of the Office of Refugee and Migration Affairs, Department of State.

Mr. Brown .

STATEMENT OF RICHARD R. BROWN, DIRECTOR , OFFICE OF

REFUGEE AND MIGRATION AFFAIRS, DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Mr. Brown . Mr. Chairman, and members of the committee, Secre

tary Harriman has called the attention of the subcommittee to some

facets of the foreign policy considerations which have confronted the

United States as a result of this influx, and he alluded to some of the

program accomplishments.

I have a prepared statement which goes into a little more detail in

some of the program aspects and calls attention to one or two other

items which Secretary Harriman has not covered .

I would propose, Mr. Chairman, with your permission, that I just

present the statement for the record and then in order to be very brief

here summarize its contents.

Senator Hart. The statement will be made a part of the record .

Mr. Brown. Mr. Chairman , I feel it is necessary for several points

to be borne in mind as we dedicate ourselves to this problemof con

sidering the refugees, the new influx of refugees in Hong Kong.

First, I think it is extremely important that we bear in mind that

all of the assistance which can be given to the refugees in Hong Kong

in whatever form it is given , has to be the determination of the Hong

Kong Government.

That hasbeen true in the past, it is true now and certainly it will be

true in the future .

The British authorities in Hong Kong must acquiesce to any of

the offers of assistance or aid to solving this problem .

Secondly,> I think we would remiss if we did not keep in mind the

tremendous contributions which the British authorities in the crown

colony have made over thepast decade in attempting to alleviate the

condition faced by these refugees.

Some of us who have been to Hong Kong on numerous occasions

have seen the transition from the cluttered hillside shacks to these

modern estates as far as housing is concerned. They have not been

able to complete all of it, but I can assure you , Mr. Chairman, that

since my own initial visit to Hong Kong in 1954 there has been a very

marked improvement in the condition of the then squatters on the

hillsides, the roofdwellers and the others.

The job has not been done but it is well along the way .

Next, I think it is important that we bear in mind thatthe United

States has not been remiss in its attention to assisting the Hong Kong

Government in the handling of the Chinese refugees from Red China.

.

Since 1953, we have maintained a program of full cooperation with

the British authorities there in which every effort has been made to

render maximum assistance for a relatively small amount of expendi

ture each year .

Initially recognizing we were having to deal with a vast number of

refugees, we have concentrated upon developing a program , first, for

selected refugees and in the initial stages we concentrated primarily

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upon the intellectuals and the skilled people trying to give them op

portunities in an otherwise almost impossible situation .

Then, we sought to aid selected types of refugees, whereby we con

centrated upon young people and children. Lastly we concentrated

upon developing selected types of projects which would give as much

assistance as possible and still merit recognition for the U.S. con

tribution.

I think, too, it is important as we discuss what we have done in this

area, that we also callattention to the tremendous interest which was

generated in the HongKong refugees almost on a global basis through

the World Refugee Year, which resulted in very sizable sums of

money and offersof service which were accepted by the responsible

authorities in the crown colony.

We, as the U.S. Government, in addition to our regular program ,

which has amounted to somewhat over a million dollars annually, made

a special contribution of slightly over a million dollars to assist in cer

tain rather dramatic types of projects which were carried on in Hong

Kong.

I have summarized those items in my presentation.

Mr. Chairman, I think it is also important that we bear in mind the

respective roles of at least two of the international agencies which are

interested in the field of refugees.

Considerable talk has beenhadwith reference to what the U.N. High

Commissioner for Refugees could do.

The Office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees does not in

clude the Hong Kong refugees in hismandate. However, under Gen

eral Assemblyresolutions that are called the Good Office resolutions, he

is permitted, and has carried on a very significant program in behalf

of the HongKong refugees, not directly operating as such, but trying

to summon the maximum of international aid and services for these

refugees.

The U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, just 2weeks ago, at the

time of themeeting of his Executive Committee, made an offer to Her

Majesty's Government and in turn to the Hong Kong authorities to

utilize hisgood offices in any way possible to assist in the present crisis.

That offer has not yet been taken up.

With respect to the Intergovernmental Committee for European

Migration, it must be bornein mind that this Committee, for the most

part, is nonoperative outside of Europe. It has had under aa special

provision of its constitution an opportunity tocooperate with theU.N.

High Commissioner for Refugees in moving the several thousand Eu

ropean refugees who come out through Hong Kong from Red China,

but the Committee does not have the responsibility for doing anything

with respectto the movement of Chinese refugees there.

The excellent services and background of this Committee and its

experience could be brought into play to remove Chinese refugees,

provided that the costs involved were completely reimbursed to the

International Committee for European Migration.

As you know , Mr. Chairman, we are now cooperating very closely

with the Attorney General's office, particularly the Immigration and

Naturalization Service in attempting to hasten at least the first arrivals

to the United States of Hong Kong

refugees under parole procedures.

The extent to which this program can be expanded to include others

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 15

largely depends upon the analysis presently being made with respect to

the currency of the sponsorships and the willingness and the sustained

interest, of the people, in wanting tocome to the United States.

All of that is being very carefully reviewed, to achieve a rapid

handling of the program . The Department has assigned additional

consular officers to HongKong.

In conclusion , Mr. Chairman, may I merely state that, first of

all, with the attempts that have been made over the period of time

since 1953 by our Far Eastern refugee program , we have found that

resettlementis not the answer.

It has helped. But unfortunately the numbers who have moved

from Hong Kongelsewhere are pitifully small compared with the

numbers that theHong KongGovernment hasbeen forced to integrate

and to try to assimilate into the economy of the crown colony.

We, in turn , have done our utmost to try to stimulate movements

outside Hong Kong, but the resources and the opportunity for their

resettlement elsewhere have been very limited.

We are intensely interested, of course, in the interest that has been

generated throughout the world with respect to this current program

and it is our sincere hope that the contributions from international

sources will be such that the Hong Kong Government can and will

accept these offers . Even though the numbers may be reduced and

the flow regularized once more, there still is tremendous need for

those who still remain in Hong Hong who have yet to receive housing,

who have yet to receive adequate schooling. If the flow levels off,I

think, Mr. Chairman, our support should not follow suit, but be just

the reverse of that.

Thank you.

Senator Hart. Better than most of us in this room , Mr. Brown,

I am sure you know that interest in refugees is and follows a pretty

predictable path - virtually no interest until something hits the front

page, and then, if there is enough emotional overtone to it, everybody

is anxious to help.

Once refugees disappear from the front page there are very few left

around to help.

Would you agree with that ?

Mr. Brown. Yes, Mr. Chairman , that is one of the tragedies of

trying to maintain a sustained program in behalf of allof therefugees

throughout the world. There is a constantswinging of the pendulum

from interest to lack of interest, and it is the dramatic that seems to .

restore the interest.

Senator Hart. We are not criticizing anybody. But just describing

an aspect of human nature.

Mr. Brown . That is right.

Senator Fong. Mr. Brown, wasn't it a sad commentary that last year

was theWorld Refugee Year and as I understand it

Mr. BROWN. Two years ago.

Senator Fong. Two years ago.

And the United States wasa sponsorof the resolution in the United

Nations for that World Refugee Year ? Wasn't it a sad commentary

that although we were the leaders in this movement of a world refugee

year we did not bring in a single refugee from the orient ?

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We had our attention focused in Europe, and we were remiss in

not adding one refugee from the orient, is that correct !

Mr. Brown. There were a few who came in from the orient, Sen

ator Fong, only under the residual provisions of Public Law 85–316

who had been processed and hadn't come in as yet.

Senator Fong. Now , since you are familiar with the Hong Kong

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problem , the fact that we did not allow a singlerefugee under that

ſaw to come in when we said we would wipe out all the refugee camps

inEurope, how did it affect our image outthere ?

Mr. BROWN. Quite candidly and honestly , Senator Fong, I think

it had an adverse effect upon our image.

Senator Fong. Would you say it was very bad ?

Mr. BROWN. I don't know that I can go much beyond that because

the criticisms or the lack of appreciation that were expressed in various

places abroad were not too well defined.

I think all those who recognized that and were concerned about it

also recognized that the United States traditionally has done a great

deal in behalf of refugees.

It was more an expression of regret and an expression of hope that

the situation would be corrected rather than a severe criticism as far

as the matter has been discussed through the personal contacts and

those which have been called to my attention.

Senator Fong. You certainly were not greatly surprised in that ?

Mr. BROWN . That is true.

Senator Fong. Thank you.

( The prepared statement of Mr. Brown follows:)

STATEMENT OF RICHARD R. BROWN, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF REFUGEE AND MIGRATION

AFFAIRS , DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, I am pleased to appear be

fore this subcommittee to discuss certain aspects of the problem which have

arisen in Hong Kong as a result of a sudden recent increase in the number of

refugees arriving from Red China . The principal witness has drawn the atten

tion of the subcommittee to some facets of foreign policy considerations which

have confronted the United States as a result of this influx, and he alluded to

some of the program accomplishments. However, Mr. Chairman, I feel it is

necessary to preface any discussion of the problems related to Chinese refugees

in Hong Kong with a reminder that the extent to which external assistance can

be given to these refugees in whatever form has been, is now, and will remain

a determination of the British authorities in Hong Kong. It is also necessary

that any review of the present problems in Hong Kong be made with a full

awareness of the magnificent and costly job which has been performed by the

Hong Kong Government for more than a decade in attempting to cope with

the complex problem of assimilating more than one million refugees. This

number represents roughly one-third of the Hong Kong population . It is essen

tial, too, in considering the problems of how and what the United States can do

at this time to keep in mind what the United States already has done and is

doing to assist the Colonial authorities in alleviating the overall refugee prob

lems in the extremely small and congested area of the colony .

Finally, Mr. Chairman, unless the real and potential role of international

agencies responsible for varying types of refugee relief assistance is kept in

mind , any review of the current situation is apt to become more confusing than

even the present misunderstandings seem to indicate.

I should like therefore, to discuss with the subcommittee aspects of these im

portant factors to which I have just called attention.

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THE BACKGROUND OF THE REFUGEE PROBLEM AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE

HONG KONG GOVERNMENT FOR ITS SOLUTION

The refugee situation in Hong Kong developed subsequent to the occupation of

mainland China by the Communist forces in 1949. Since that time an estimated

1.2 million refugees have entered the colony and now make up approximately one

third of its present population. Each year until the present saw an estimated

40,000 to 50,000 new refugees enter the colony . About half of this number were

legal entrants ; the rest crossed without control either by land or by small boat

and faded into the crowded districts of the colony. Approximately 100 to 300

persons per month were intercepted at the border each month by the Hong

Kong police and returned to mainland China. Subsequent to May 1 this year

the numbers of persons trying to enter the colony and the numbers returned by

the police to mainland China have increased greatly. According to recent in

formation, by May 25 , 50,000 to 60,000 persons had crossed the border . It is

not known, of course , how many have been successful in this period in eluding the

police and making their way into the urban areas of the colony.

In the last 12 years nearly all of the very large number of refugees entering

Hong Kong have remained there. Resettlement out of the colony has taken

care of only a very small percentage of those arriving. Since 1953 approximately

30,000 refugees have moved to other countries. Of this number about 18,000

went to Taiwan and 10,000 to the United States.

REVIEW OF UNITED STATES SUPPLEMENTARY ASSISTANCE TO REFUGEES IN HONG KONG

In keeping with its traditional concern for the plight of refugees the U.S.

Government has viewed with sympathy the flight of thousands of refugees from

communism into the small colony of Hong Kong. In order to give expression

to this sympathy the United States inaugurated the Far East refugee program

in 1953. This program has cooperated with American voluntary agencies in the

colony and has provided funds for projects carried out by these agencies in the

fields of housing, medical care, resettlement abroad, vocational training and

similar projects. Including World Refugee Year contributions, $ 8,342,000 has

been spent by the program since its inception in 1953 through March 31, 1962.

The Far East refugee program has also supervised the distribution of surplus

agricultural commodities by American voluntary agencies under title III of

Public Law 480. Since 1953 when this distribution began , $ 30,180,000 worth of

commodities have been made available to refugees and others in Hong Kong.

In order to reach those refugees considered most in need , schoolchildren , the

old and the sick , and to make more acceptable to the recipients such products

-as cornmeal and dry milk which are relatively unknown to Chinese, the Far

East refugee program has cooperated with the agencies concerned to provide for

the conversion of title III commodities into finished or semifinished products, such

as noodles, biscuits and the like through the construction , installation and

operation of noodlemaking machines, bakeries and milk -mixing centers, In

addition, the agencies are expanding their capacity for providing hot meals

daily. At the present time agencies provide approximately 20,000 indigent

refugee children with one hot meal per day.

UNITED STATES WORLD REFUGEE YEAR PROGRAM

The United States made special efforts during the World Refugee Year to assist

the Hong Kong Government to meet some of the most pressing refugee problems.

Through its Far Eastern refugee program ( a part of the U.S. escape program )

the United States allotted $ 1,014,000 to be spent on new World Refugee Year

projects in the areas of Hong Kong and Macao. Of this amount, $ 617,000 was

given directly to the Hong Kong Government, to achieve its goal of establishing

a community center, a rehabilitation center and a Secondary Trades School.

( Some $ 43,000 of the total was spent in the area of Macao for the enlargement

of a Day Nursery and dispensary to increase medical seryices to refugee chil

dren , as well as to construct a community center .)

Recognizing the fact that the total allocation of $ 1,014,000 could not possibly

meet the total needs of the Chinese refugees, after thorough investigation and

consultation with the Hong Kong Government and the voluntary agencies in the

field it was decided that the funds available could best be utilized as follows:

Seventy -three thousand dollars for the processing and distribution of sur

plus agricultural commodities. (Accomplished through projects establishing

milk mixing, noodle making and biscuit making machines ).

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Two hundred and thirty -one thousand dollars on the extension or con

struction of medical service institutions. (Accomplished through the con

struction of a TB hospital, an out-patient clinic, the extension of hospital

facilities and a day -nursery clinic .)

Four hundred and fifty -two thousand dollars for education institutions.

(Accomplished through the establishment of a Trade Traning Center in

courses related to the needs of local industries, a Rehabilitation Center, and

the expansion of the facilities of a Secondary Trades School ). .

Two hundred and twenty - seven thousand dollars for Community Centers

with facilities for counseling, education, vocational training, libraries, and

recreation .

Thirty -one thousand dollars for 48 housing units and an undersea water

pipeline to meet the water needs of refugees on a previously uninhabited

island in the Hong Kong area.

Also during World Refugee Year, the U.S. Government allotted $ 70,000 to the

United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees for the care and maintenance

and resettlementprocessing costs of European refugees in Hong Kong and $ 730,000

to the Intergovernmental Committee for European Migration for their transporta

tion costs .

UNITED STATES ASSISTANCE TO HONG KONG REFUGEES THROUGH RESETTLEMENT

The United States, in addition to its direct aid, has included Chinese refugees

in Hong Kong among those benefiting from refugee immigration legislation.

Under the provisions of the Refugee Relief Act and the act of September 11,

1957, 9,118 Chinese were issued visas for entry into the United States. Although

this is a small figure compared to the size of the refugee problem in Hong Kong ,

nevertheless, with the exception of Taiwan , the United States has admitted more

Chinese refugees than any other country .

Admission of Chinese Orphans

In addition to visas issued to Chinese refugees as stated above, visas were and

are being issued to Chinese ans under special legislation passed by the Con

gress for the benefit of eligible orphans. More recently these visas have been

issued under the authority of section 101 ( b ) ( 1 ) ( F ) of the Immigration and Na

tionality Act, as amended .

Thus, Mr. Chairman, it can be seen that resettlement of Chinese refugees out

side Hong Kong to the United States and to other areas has been overshadowed

by the necessity of resettling locally or integrating the vast majority of these

refugees in Hong Kong. Consequently, the main burden for the satisfactory re

settlement of these refugees has fallen on the Government and people of Hong

Kong. Through a wise program of fostering a healthy climate for the expan

sion of private enterprise, industry and commerce in the colony has expanded

enormously in the past 10 years. This expansion has provided employment for

thousands of refugees and reduced unemployment in the colony to a very low

level. The Hong Kong Government itself has allotted approximately one- third

of its budget, approximately $ 55 million in 1961 alone, for direct and indirect

assistance to refugees. In a program to provide permanent low -cost housing

to the hundreds of thousands of squatters perched on the hillsides and rooftops

of the colony, the Hong Kong Government has constructed resettlement estates

for more than 440,000 people. It is expected that this program will be continued

and that housing for 120,000 people will be completed each year.

The role of international agencies in the Hong Kong refugee programs

Considerable comment has appeared in the press over the last 2 weeks with

reference to the part several of the international agencies should play in the

present refugee situation in Hong Kong. I shall confine my statement primarily

to two such agencies in an effort to clarify apparent misunderstanding as to their

respective roles.

The mandate of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR )

does not include Chinese refugees in Hong Kong. However, under U.N. General

Assembly resolutions the UNCHR is authorized to employ his "good offices " to

appeal to governments and the international community for contributions of

funds and services to meet the refugee needs in Hong Kong, provided that the

Hong Kong authorities request him or accept his offer to perform such function .

In the present situation the UNHCR has offered to the United Kingdom the

use of his good offices in any manner the United Kingdom and the Colonial

Government may desire. Thus far his offer has not been taken up .

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 19

The Intergovernmental Committee for European Migration ( ICEM ) generally

speaking does not move refugees from areas outside Europe. However, under

a special provision of its constitution it participates jointly with the UNHCR in

expediting the movement of European refugees from Red China who transit

through Hong Kong .

Contingent upon totalreimbursement of the costs involved , ICEM could employ

its skilled staff and long experience in moving migrants to assist in any of the

resettlement plans presently being discussed with reference to Hong Kong

Chinese refugees.

In conclusion, Mr. Chairman , I would summarize by saying, first, the United

States continues to have the highest regard for the commendable record of the

Hong Kong Government in its efforts to aid the Chinese refugees who have

sought and received sanctuary in the colony. Second, in due recognition of the

political, economic, and humanitarian problems involved in the presence of well

over a million Chinese refugees in Hong Kong, and the rapid influx of many more,

the United States has indicated its willingness to share in the costs, materials,

and services attendant to their care and maintenance and to accept a portion of

them for admission to the United States, and lastly, it is gratifying to note the

extent to which the people of the United States, through their elected repre

sentatives and their privately supported voluntary agencies, have voiced such

earnest generous desires to help and to contribute to the solution of this grave

and complex problem .

If the chairman or members of the committee desire more detailed informa

tion , Mr. Sobotka and I will be glad to respond to questions or to furnish addi

tional information for the record .

Senator Hart. This completes the witnesses scheduled to be heard

today.

The committee, I feel, will have before it in a week or 10 days the

spokesmen for the several voluntary agencies who are on the ground

inHong Kong, some of whom now are over there.

It is our feeling that a direct report from them with respect to the

programs they are administering , their experiences with these pro

grams, their observation of general conditions, will be helpful in

presenting a balanced record on which we can measure our own re

sponsibilities.

If there is no objection, I suggest a brief recess, following which we

may continue in executive session.

(Whereupon at 11:05 a.m., the committee went into executive ses

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TUESDAY, MAY 29 , 1962

U.S. SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON REFUGEES AND ESCAPEES

OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY ,

Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 11:15 a.m., in room

2228, New Senate Office Building, Senator Philip A. Hart (chairman

of the subcommittee )presiding:

Present: Senators Hart (chairman ), Dirksen, and Fong,

Also present: Curtis E. Johnson , staff director; Dale De Haan ,

research consultant ; Carl Ziemba, counsel; Earl Nishimura, minority

counsel; Fred M. Mesmer, staff member, Senate Judiciary Subcom

mittee on Immigration ; Walter M. Besterman and Garner J. Cline,

House Judiciary Committee.

Senator HART. The committee feels it desirable to have a record

made of these proceedings, but to assign to this record whatever

classification it is that will put it in reserve pending subsequent need

or reference requirements.

I think the record ought to show that we are being joined by the

counsel to the two immigration subcommittees of both bodies, Mr.

Mesmer for the Senate, and Mr. Besterman for the House.

Governor, I think if we just proceed on a completely informal basis

here, we will accomplish a lot more. What has been the Red Chinese

government's reaction in the last couple of weeks to this exodus ?

STATEMENTS OF HON. W. AVERELL HARRIMAN , ASSISTANT SECRE

TARY FOR FAR EASTERN AFFAIRS; AND RICHARD R. BROWN ,

DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF REFUGEE AND MIGRATION AFFAIRS, DE

PARTMENT OF STATE

Mr. HARRIMAN . Senator, that is very hard to say.

Such information as we have, as I said before for the record, the

information seems to be that the Canton authorities found that they

were going to have difficulty forcing 200,000 of their inhabitants to

go back to farms, and they thought perhaps it might be easier for

them , that is one theory, to leave the country, rather than to use

forcible means to compel them to go back to the country,

Then , of course, when those that were forced out of the city came

back tothe country, it has usually been the practice throughout the

years, of the agricultural community, if they felt they had a surplus,

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for some of the more venturesome to leave the country and migrate

elsewhere, so they left because of the influx of people from thecity,

more mouths to feed.

We have no indication as to what the reaction was in the reestablish

ment of these regulations. It is one of the indications, I think, of

some breakdown in confidence of the regime. They must be gravely

concerned as to how they are going to handle the food situation be

cause it looks as if thisproblem is so great that even if they have

reasonably good weather the problem is going to be with them for

a long time.

My associate says there is no public comment by any Chinese Com

munist source.

Senator Dirksen. Governor, all of these refugees were equipped

with an exit visa ?

Mr. HARRIMAN. Not all of them had exit permits, butall apparently

knew of reports that the border controls had been lifted.

I gather from what I have learned that when they permited exit

visas to be given freely, then others heard that the border was open.

Word spreads very fast in any Iron Curtain country from mouth to

mouth, and word spread that the border guards were not stopping

them .

So some had exit visas and some just came through.

Senator DIRKSEN . Well, one way or another then , this exodus had

official connivance either by lifting the border guardsor actually issu

ing a document in the nature of an exit permit or visa to go into Hong

Kong.

So the Government had to know about it one way or another, either

at the local or national level. But I can't imagine that even local

officials under the way the Communists operate

Mr. HARRIMAN . There must have been some permission .

Senator DIRKSEN . It came from the top !

Mr. HARRIMAN . It is a fair supposition that there was some agree

ment from Peiping or at least no opposition from Peiping. I don't

know how much breakdown there is in the authority of the Peiping

regime.

We hear reports of discussions that are going on, we see reports on

meetings that take place and some of the prominent personalities no

longer appear and there seems to be a shift or there seems to be some

purging outof some of the more prominent people involved in the

planning. Some scapegoats are being made.

But it hasn't received much publicity - more information comes out

of Moscow , there is much freer interchange, we have reporters there.

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Senator DIRKSEN. Now, corollary to that, when this movement dried

up it's

fair to assume that the permits or exit visas were then shut off !

Mr. HARRIMAN . That must have been .

Senator DIRKSEN. Because it is hard to imagine that 56,000 people

would be on a trek unless they were equipped with a piece of paper

to get them into Hong Kong.

Mr. HARRIMAN . There is no doubt that this was an official act on

the part of the central authorities, and I understand that there were

people on the way that were turned back that weren't permitted to

cross the border,

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In other words, they slapped down, they have slapped on the old

regulations about the border guards first, as a first act, and many of

them who were on theirway were turned back .

Senator DIRKSEN . You see, taking those two jointly, it gives us a

rather suspicious aura, it seems to me, as to what the Government of

China was actually trying to accomplish here. Surely it must have

been in the deal, and it had some objective to be accomplished be

cause here was a complete reversal of what has been going on for

years — the dribbling in beyond the guards in Kowloon, suddenly

stimulated and running into thousands, and suddenly shut off.

There are all sorts of speculations, some of them I have given you, I

don't want to repeat them.

Senator HART. Is there any indication that the holders of the exit

visas were sick, old ?

Mr. HARRIMAN. No, I think they were rather vigorous, I have been

told. They were the more venturesome and vigorous people rather

than the sick and the old. We don't have aa breakdown.

( Off the record .)

Senator Fong. Was there a preponderance of the male over the

female ?

Mr. HARRIMAN . We have no statistics on that.

Senator FONG . How about children ?

Mr. HARRIMAN . Relatively few. Those who were with them . Not

for the most part whole families, very often relatives of people in

Hong Kong or men coming to Hong Kong apparently to make a liv

ing, leaving their families initially inthe villages.

Senator Fong. There were a number of troops that came in also,

and they were sent back.

Do you have any information on that ?

Mr. HARRIMAN. Number of what sort of people?

Senator Fong. Soldiers.

Mr. HARRIMAN . No, I haven't any information about soldiers. I

believe theHongKong government denied there were any soldiers that

came out, by their check, and they have no indication there were any

from outside of the one province.

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THURSDAY , JUNE 7, 1962

U.S. SENATE ,

SUBCOMMITTEE OF REFUGEES AND ESCAPEES,

COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY ,

Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met, pursuantto recess, at 10 a.m., in room 457

Old Senate Office Building, Senator Philip A. Hart (chairman of

the subcommittee ) presiding.

Present: Senator Hart and Senator Fong.

Also present : Curtis E. Johnson, staff director; Dale S. de Haan,

research consultant; Carl Ziemba, committee counsel; and Earl Nishi

mura , minority counsel.

Senator Hart. The committee will come to order.

Today we resume our hearings on the problems in Hong Kong of

refugees who have fled from Communist China.

Last week we heard testimony from the Assistant Secretary of

State for Far Eastern Affairs, the Honorable Averell Harriman , and

Mr. Richard Brown of the State Department's Office of Refugee and

Migration Affairs.

Today we welcome the opportunity to hear from spokesmen of a

number of the voluntary relief agencies to whom the problem of

refugees in Hong Kong is an old story. A number of these organ

izations have conducted relief and rehabilitation programs for Hong

Kong refugees for over a decade.

Some of our witnesses have recently returned from the Far East

and will be able to give the committee and, through the record, the

Senate,firsthand reports on conditions as they are today .

The Hong Kong refugee problem was dramatized a month ago

with a sudden mass exodus ofthousands of Chinese from Communist

China . The situation has now returned to normal - if such a term

can be applied to this tragic problem . Our concern is to determine

how we can deal with a problem which has long been with us and

which still continues — the fate of 1 million refugees now in Hong

Kong.

Since 1954 our Government has supplied substantial quantities of

surplus agricultural products which havebeen distributed through

the voluntary agencies to the refugees in Hong Kong. In addition,

supplementary community services and facilities have been supplied

bythe voluntary agencies with some assistance from Federal funds.

The testimony today should add substantially to the record regarding

the adequacy of these programs and the measures which should be

taken to improve them .

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A preliminary and tentative appraisal of the Hong Kong refugee

problem appears to present the following. Of the million refugees

now in this British crown colony, perhaps half have become inte

grated in the community with adequate housing and employment,

and can be regarded as permanent residents. As for the remainder,

the Hong Kong Government is building 125,000 modern housing units

each year andhas programed the same number for the next 5 years.

The industrial economy is growing and will provide increasedem

ployment if the world market remains open for the sale of Hong

Kong's products. Nevertheless, some opportunity for immigration

to the other countries must be afforded if the problem is to be kept

within control and dealt with effectively. "," ,

On May 23, 1962, President Kennedy announced that "several thou

sand " Chinese in Hong Kong already registered and screened for im

migration to the United States would be admitted as parolees. I have

been told by the Visa Office of the Department of State that about

19,000 refugees in Hong Kong are registered for immigration with our

consulate office there. Of these , however, only 2,056 has been pro

cessed and screened and will beeligible for early admissionunder the

President's parole program . I have not yet been informed as to the

planning for the program beyond this point.

In March of this year, 25 Senators, including Senator Fong, joined

me in the sponsorship of a bill, S. 3043, to revise our immigration

quota system so that it can be more responsive to our domestic require

ments and our foreign policy objectives. Under this bill, the quota

for Chinese would be 5,335 instead of the present 105. In addition,

there is provision for the admission of a number of persons who would

qualify as refugees. The bill, while eliminating the present law's dis

crimination against Chinese and nationalities of other Far Eastern

countries would not, as many persons have written me and charged,

open the floodgates of immigration. Those of us who have sponsored

the bill believe that it offers a most realistic and effective approach to

the present situation.

It is my hope that the testimony today will be addressed not only

to the relief and rehabilitation programs supported by our Govern

ment and thevoluntary agencies, but also to a very candid and real

istic appraisal of the U.S. and free world responsibilities and capa

bilities in the resettlement of Hong Kong refugees.

This subcommittee is fortunate to have as a member one whom the

Senate of the United States and all of us acknowledge can speak most

eloquently and understandingly ofthe feelings and attitudes and aspi

rations of the people of the Pacific. We are fortunate, indeed, as a

subcommittee, to have Senator Fong. I fear I have never put that

onthe record, but I am delighted to have a chance to now, sir.

Senator FONG. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Tap

Senator HART. Would you care to make any comment ?

Senator FONG . I have no comment to make.

Senator Hart. Perhaps I should indicate, because people who are

here to testify may welcome some indication of the order which has

been established, many have additional obligations in terms of time

which they must keep today. The best adjustment that we have been

able to develop is to have the batting order this way :

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First, testifying, will be James MacCracken ; then Bishop Swan

strom ; then Mr. Reuter; Mr. vanden Heuvel ; Miss Pettiss ; Mr. Chan

nel and Mr. Snyder ; and Mr. Bagration .

Our first witness, then, will be James MacCracken, director of immi

gration services of Church World Service, National Council of

Churches

STATEMENT OF JAMES MacCRACKEN , DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATION

SERVICES OF CHURCH WORLD SERVICE , NATIONAL COUNCIL OF

CHURCHES

Mr. MacCRACKEN . Thank you, Mr. Chairman .

My name is James MacCracken and I am director of immigration

services of Church World Service.

Church World Service is the international relief and rehabilitation

arm of the National Council of Churches of Christ in the United

States of America , with headquarters at 475 Riverside Drive, New

York City.

Representing the humanitarian and social concernsour agency con

ducted programsin the past year in 50 countries of Asia, the Middle

East, Latin America, Africa, and Europe. During 1961, Church

World Service distributed 345,427,096 pounds of food, clothing, and

medicines abroad , valued at $25,373,891. We have recently been active

in Cuban refugee resettlement from Dade County in Florida . We

work internationally in close cooperation with theDivision of Inter

church Aid, Refugee and World Service of the World Council of

Churches with headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland.

During the past year 8 million people around the world have been

assisted throughChurch World Service programs divided into three

primary areas of ( 1) direct relief, ( 2) technical assistance, and (3)

immigration services.

Mr. Chairman, you have already received an impressive array of

statistics aboutthethousands of Chinese refugees who during the past

month sought shelter and sanctuary in Hong Kong. This was, as most

refugee developments, sudden and inexplicable asregards timing and

number. Our representative in Hong Kong early informed us that

the private voluntary agencies in Hong Kong were distressedtosee no

practical alternative to the crown colonyinitiation of repatriation, so

vast were the numbers and so limited the facilities of space in the

British colony.

With 100,000 births over deaths annually and a constant stream

of refugees, Hong Kong despite every human effort to the contrary

within its limited boundaries has 500,000 human beings in shocking

housing conditions.

Hong Kong Church World Service has tackled a variety ofpro

grams to endeavor to assist however modestly. Every day 50,000

children receive, through 8 milk stations, reconstituted milk and

fortified biscuits made of U.S. surplus food and purchased vitamin

additives. Mobile squads go to 33 food stations and church distribu

tion centers to issue rations of rice, meat, corn, oil , bulgur wheat or

flour. Substantial food allotments are provided 35 welfare institu

tions regularly. The child feeding program gives a daily hot meal to

10,000 certified needy school children - their sole hot food . Factories

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and apparatus peculiar to Hong Kong transfer unfamiliar commodi

ties such as flour and corn meal into miles upon miles of noodles, a

staple in the Chinese diet.

Last January, wind fanned aa fireholocaust which wiped out aa thou

sand refugee shacks in the Hung Hom section , leaving 11,000 home

less and destitute. Rice, canned pork, blankets, and clothing were

provided to many of thesevictims.

Another 140,000 people were fed through milk bars, institutions,

orphanages and church centers with clothing and blankets issued to

the neediest. Cotton donated by the Christian rural oversea program

was processed into quilts for new refugees and fire victims.

A TB clinic at the Chuk Yuen Center provided treatment to ambu

latory patients referred by the Government Chest Clinic. A mobile

dental clinic operated in 6 communities in the New Territories where

dental care was totally absent; service was provided to 900 patients

per month. A doctor's salary was madeavailable to the Family Plan

ning Association. Our service program included ablind persons voca

tional project, a working girls' hotel and the Faith -Hope Day Nursery.

Solid trainingand gainful employment were provided 100 Chinese

refugees, some blind ,through a knitting project. The project turns

out commercial quality sweaters, dresses and coats. The college stu

dent work project assists 400 needy students in return for their work

teaching in rooftop schools, helping in food distribution, or super

vising playgrounds. Newer projects turned out 728 neckties and 144

smock dresses.

In cooperation with the U.S. Refugee and Migration Unit of the

Consulate General, a number of buildings are being erected, including

a nurses' home, a noodle factory, 27 refugee cottages and an addition

to the St. Christopher's Orphanage. Some 900 stone cottages have

been built with churches and individuals' contributions, thus housing

5,000 refugees.

About 8,147,230 pounds of clothing and foodstuffs were shipped

during 1961 to Hong Kong, with an estimated value of $ 756,498.

When the recent refugee influx commenced, Church World Serv

ice joined fellow agencies on the spot in Hong Kong to make im

mediately available to the crown colony officials our stockpiles of food

and clothing. At the request of the crown colony authorities, special

food packages or clothing packages were not given out at the border

less additional thousandsof refugees be attracted to the influx or lest

those so gifted would remain for some days in the hills, only to return

and try again.

Rev. Elbert E. Gates, Jr., Director of Hong Kong Church World

Service was elected chairman of a special committee of the Hong Kong

Christian Welfare and Relief Council to prepare special recom

mendations in face of the refugee flood. In general the recom

mendations were as follows :

( a ) To urge the relaxation of immigration quotas in countries

where there is space and resources ;

( 6 ) To urge preferential treatment of Hong Kong products on the

world market ;

( c) To explore the possibility of massive aid to the mainland of

China :

( d ) To urge the Hong Kong Government to continue its humane

and understanding treatment of the refugees; and

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( e ) To ask that the private voluntary agencies be permitted to min

ister to the recent arrivals even though it was illegal to do so.

In his latest communication, Pastor Gates reports that the border

is now closed and that the situation of Hong Kong has returned to

normal — which is say that the drama and vast need I have earlier

described continues but without the benefit of glaring worldwide head

lines .

Mr. Chairman , President Kennedy has authorized the admission

of a token number of Chinese refugees who have been patiently waiting

for U.S. immigration visas for 5 or more years. The waiting list

is lengthy when only 105 annually are permitted entry into our coun

try from the thousands of Chinese applicants around the world . This

will be a welcome and helpful action. Still, I recall upon the eve of

our Independence Day during World Refugee Year that the U.S.

Senate passed a bill which would have granted such permission with

out having to wait upon such dramatic headlines. The bill failed to

gain approval of the House of Representatives. However, a special

subcommittee of the House did make a special study of the Hong

Kong Chinese refugee problem , particularly as it related to the United

States immigration. With your permission, Mr. Chairman , I quote

from page 20, of the House of Representatives Report No. 1284, filed

by Congressman Francis Walter, chairman of the House Judiciary

Subcommittee concerned :

While the number of refugees admitted to the United States from Hong Kong

has been small in relation to the vast numbers fleeing from Red China , the de

parture of the United States from the quotas established by previous legislation

has produced considerable goodwill on behalf of the United States in the Orient.

It has served as a valuable countermeasure to the Communist propaganda that the

United States is only interested in refugees of European origin.

Church World Service in cooperation with the World Council of

Churches Office in Hong Kong has assisted 1,444 such Chinese refugees

to enter the United States. Except for one man who starved himself

to send generous food packagesto wife and daughter in southeast Asia ,

not a single one of these people failed to become self-supporting. I

was most impressed by the subcommittee report as quoted above. Yet,

as I read further I was surprised to note thatthe authorsof the report,

the Honorable Arch A. Moore, Jr.,‫ ܕ‬and the Honorable Basil L. Whit

ener, Members of Congress, arrived at a totally different conclusion

on page 23 of the same report :

The question of whether U.S. assistance should extend to increasing the

present immigration quotas for Far Eastern refugees must be answered in terms

of whether any reasonable increase will alleviate the refugee problem in

Hong Kong. The only realistic answer, since the refugee problem in Hong

Kong is not of a temporary nature, is that increased resettlement in the United

States will be of very limited benefit to an overall solution of the refugee prob

lem . From a practical standpoint, any reasonable increase that the Congress

might authorize, unless the Congress would be willing to accept numbers exceed

ing the normal yearly influx of refugees into Hong Kong ( 45,000 per year ) ,

will be of nominal consequence .

No program can be devised for effective increased immigration which will

not substantially depart from present U.S. immigration policy . For this reason ,

the subcommittee is unable to recommend, independent of an overall consid

eration which would basically alter present U.S. immigration policy, any pro

posals to solve the Far East refugee problem by changing the present quota

restrictions.

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Mr. Chairman, there is much validity in the conclusion of the sub

committee . Yet it is tragic that it does not allow for the value cited

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earlier in the report of a token quota._It was in this spirit of recogni

tion and dignity that Senator Hiram Fong spoke so eloquently during

World Refugee Year. It is to this point also, Mr. Chairman, that

your own proposed legislation - S. 3043 - calls for a revision of the en

tire U.S. immigration approach.

We in Church World Service do not believe in irresponsible immi

gration into our country. We do believe that greater attention can

meritoriously be paid to refugees, family reunion, and special skill

categories. *President Kennedy and Congressman Francis Walter

have both recognized the validity of this view in their separate and

important Chinese refugee immigration proposals. We would wish

to see these provisions as permanent segments of our immigration

statutes provisions to meet standard recurring refugee need in our

world .

This past month our world's headlined refugee problem happened

in Asia. A few months back, our attention was drawn to the plight

of Cuban refugees, most still awaiting firm employment and perma

nent housing in our country. A few years before, we encountered

Hungarian freedom fighters. And tomorrow , Mr. Chairman , I ven

ture no geographic prophecy. Drastic refugee problems are a charac

teristic of our time. Temporary expedient legislation is not worthy

of the world leadership stature of our Nation. I join with knowl

edgeablecolleagues in the field in Hong Kong and call upon our coun

try to set a permanent pattern of immigration leadership which will

encourage other nations of good will to do likewise.

During this past week Church World Service was further called

upon twice for affirmative response with regard to the recent Hong

Kong influx. In reply to an inquiry from the U.S. Immigration and

Naturalization Service as to our ability to assistin a projected Chinese

refugee orphan parolee program , we replied that we would support

actively the International Social Service program by providing sup

port from the Protestant community both in seeking at least 100 places

in orphanages and institutions and in referring interested Protestant

families wishing to adopt the orphans who may be thus available.

The Taiwan Christian Service cabled 1 week ago that they had been

requested to supply bedding for a Chineserefugee transit centerfor

10,000 refugees from mainland China to Hong Kong . We replied

affirmatively that we would support their request with bedding, sup

plemental food,clothing, and medicinal supplies.

Thank you , Mr. Chairman, for the privilege of appearing before

your distinguished subcommittee.

Senator Hart. Thank you, Mr. MacCracken. The recital of the

earlier activities, earlier in the sense of predating the dramatic May

flow of refugees into Hong Kong, is just one more example, which I

hope the country will note, of the role that is played by voluntary

agencies.

More than once, some of us on the committee have commented on

the unfortunate lack of awareness in this country of the role played

by voluntary agencies. But I got some mail in reply to that, which

pointed out that there could not be such a lack of awareness, because

the means would not then have been provided the agencies to under

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take their missions. My reply was that that was true, but it would

be nice if there were still greater awareness. I think I will have to

put it in that frame.

You note on page 4 of your prepared statement that the Senate did

pass a bill that would have permitted admission to people from the

Pacific area , but that it was not accepted by the House.

Mr. MacČRACKEN. That is correct, sir.

Senator HART. This bill happens, of course, to have been funda

mental to the Senate immigration action of that session. Here again,

it highlights the role that Senator Fong has played in this .

I think I have no specific questions, but I am sure Senator Fong

may have. And I suspect that Mr. Johnson and Mr. de Haan of the

committee will .

Senator Fong . Mr. MacCracken , I am quite amazed at the tremen

dous amount of aid that the Church World Service has contributed to

the needy in the year 1961, the figure of $ 25,373,891. I am sure the

majority of cur people in the United States do not realize how much

humanitarian work is being done by the Church World Service.

For that, I would like to commend the Church World Service for this

great humanitarian task .

Mr. MacCRACKEN . Thank you, Senator Fong.

Senator Fong. I share with you the dismay and the disappointment

that the subcommittee of the House did not render a report which

would allow some refugees to come into the United States. My

amendment called for the bringing of 4,500 refugees, not only from

the Far East, but also from the Middle East, and this would be left

to the discretion of the Attorney General . It passed the Senate and

did not pass the conference. We were advised that the subcommittee

would go out to Hong Kong to review the situation. We had ex

pected a report which would be favorable at least to allow a token

number of refugees to come, because we hadsponsored the resolution

in the United Nations Assembly for World Refugee Year. The reso

lution was an empty gesture as far as the people of the Middle East

and Far East were concerned, and I think it was a mockery and a

delusion. I am very happy to see that the President's action has now

allowed some to come in.

I commend you for this very fine testimony you have given the

subcommittee.It will

help us in our deliberations.

Mr. MacCRACKEN. Thank you, Senator Fong.

Senator HART. Mr. Johnson ?

Mr. JOHNSON . Mr. MacCracken, on page 5 of your statement, you

make reference to President Kennedy's proposal and also to Con

gressman Walter's bill. I presume that in the latter instance you are

referring to H.R.11911, which provides for the admission of refugees.

Mr. MacCRACKEN . That is correct.

Mr. JOHNSON. As I understand it, this bill was not specifically

drafted for the Hong Kong situation , but do you have any idea how

many persons would be admitted under this proposal? In a sense, I

think it appears to overlap the President's proposal for admission on

parole, ofall persons presently classified.

Mr. MacCRACKEN. I am not completely clear as to the extent of the

nonoverlap, Mr. Johnson. It is my understanding also that the

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islation do indeed overlap. There may be an error in which dossiers

may not be complete in the consulate general of the United States in

Hong Kong. Such dossiersmay be eligible under Congressman Wal

ter's proposed legislation. This is the only extent to which I could

see that the two do not overlap completely.

Senator HART. Mr. de Haan ?

Mr. DE HAAN . Referring to your testimony, page 3, part ( c) , which

concerns massive aid to mainland China - do you have any specific

proposals in that regard ?

Mr. MacCRACKEN. I quote further, sir, from a report received from

Pastor Gates to this specific. The agency representatives in the Hong

Kong Christian Welfare and Relief Council felt that part of this

refugee influx of the past month came because of famine or near

famine conditions within mainland China. There have been news

paper reports of literally hundreds of thousands of potential refu

gees who might have joined the exodus. It was the judgment of the

representatives, speaking through Pastor Gates as spokesman, that a

very concrete suggestion that they would pose to the International

Community would be the possibility of sending food into mainland

China. They were aware that this was a controversial recommenda

tion. They were equally aware that there was a good possibility such

an offer would be refused. But they did not feel, in the agony of the

moment, that they could make serious recommendations without mak

ing a recommendation which referred to one of the primary causes

which seemed to be behind the refugee exodus.

Mr. DE HAAN. In many quarters there appears to be some confu

sion -- jumping, now, to the situation on Taiwan - about phasing out

the feeding program of Church World Service. Would you describe

the situation to help alleviate the confusion ?

Mr. MacCRACKEN. If I may very briefly comment, this is a pro

gram which has received quite widespread publicity. It was the

intention of the Church World Service upon reviewing the family

feeding program to channel its energies into what it felt would be

programs that could be constructive, that would also be structured to

meet the need of the people to be served in the various groups on

Taiwan . The proposal to reduce the program over a period of

time met with a difference of opinion as to phaseout, and the re

alinement of program objectives. It was the latter point that we in

Church World Service were concerned with . We were interested in

moving away from a large, massive family feeding relief program

and trying to couple some of this energy with programs that might

have more positive end goals.

Now, I would be prepared and very pleased to provide the sub

committee with any additional information to this point that might

be helpful, but this is all I came prepared for this morning.

Senator HART. I think the committee would welcome, for its files

atleast, any additional comment you might make with respect to

this aspect .

Mr. MacCRACKEN. Fine, Mr. Chairman .

Mr. DE HAAN. Yes . I have just one more question.

In a general way, what is your reaction to the present governmental

system of control and audit in the food distribution program ? Do

you have any suggestions to improve the system !

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 33

Mr. MacCRACKEN. I would be very pleased to include this as part

of the data which we would prepare to provide the subcommittee.

I would not consider myself the competent Church World Service

executive to respond to that very direct and helpful question .

Mr. DE HAAN . We would appreciate that material, too.

Senator HART. Thank you again ,Mr. MacCracken .

Mr. MacCRACKEN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman .

Senator HART. Next, the subcommittee will hear from Bishop

Swanstrom, the executive director of Catholic Relief Services, NCWC.

STATEMENT OF MOST REV . EDWARD E. SWANSTROM , EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR OF CATHOLIC RELIEF SERVICES, NCWC; ACCOMPANIED

BY MSGR. JOHN F. MCCARTHY, ASSISTANT EXECUTIVE DIREC

TOR, CATHOLIC RELIEF SERVICES

Senator HART. Bishop Swanstrom , we welcome you back to the

country. I should explain, before we continue, that Bishop Swan

strom , on May 23, cabled the chairman of the standing committee,

Senator Eastland, and the chairman of the Immigration Committee

on the House side, Congressman Walter. I report this for the record

because Bishop Swanstrom thoughtfully addressed a report of this

cable to me. The cable read :

We urge United States take lead by offering admit at least 10,000 Chinese

refugees Hong Kong who have relatives and friends here anxious to provide

homes and jobs for them . Catholic Relief Services offers cooperate fullest

extent in resettlement these refugees. Such gesture on the part of United

States should stimulate others assist in this tragic problem.

Maybe I have stolen some of the statement which you have filed with

us, Bishop, but I felt your prompt response to the situation should

bemade a part of the record.

Bishop SWANSTROM . Thank you , Mr. Senator.

My name is Bishop Swanstrom and I am the executive director of

Catholic Relief Services-NCWC, the foreign relief and resettlement

agency of the American Catholic bishops. Until recently, I was

chairman of the American Council of Voluntary Agencies for For

eign Service.

I am happy to have the privilege of appearing before this commit

tee to present my views on the importantproblem it is considering of

the Chinese refugees in Hong Kong.

I had the good fortune to be in Hong Kong during the early days of

May when the crisis created by the influx of new thousands of refugees

from China into the crown colony was acute and critical.

I took advantage of the opportunity to spend several hours in the

Fanling section of the colony where a steady stream of refugees had

been arriving from the mainland. I was fortunate enough to be able

to talk with dozens of newly arrived refugees who had been lucky

enough to escape and who were in hiding from the Hong Kong police,

protected by friends until they could safely make their way into the

city of Hong Kong.

I was accompanied on this visit by priests who were formerly mis

sionaries in China and who could speak the language of the new

refugees and were familiar with the areas from which they had come.

Because they trusted me, the refugees spoke openly and I probably got

a truer picture from them than any reporter could possibly get.

34 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

There was only one thing that motivated the escaped refugees to

whom I had the privilege of talking, and that wasa desire to get out

of China into Hong Kong so thatthey could send back packages of

food and money to the wives and children they had left behind. Those

I spoke to were all men - heads of families who, in agreement with

IS

their families, had spent anywhere from aa week to 3weekstraveling by

night through the mainland and hiding in the hills until they could

reach the border and escape both the Chinese guards and the Hong

Kong police. They told me stories of others who had not been so

fortunate and who had been caught and returned by either one of these

security guards.

I can say without fear of contradiction that to a man , their story

was pretty much the same. The hunger and famine in China was

decimating their villages. Many of them had been city workers who

had been forced to work on the collective farms and the tribute they

had to pay to the government in producewas so great that they barely

had sufficient left for their families. As I recall it

Senator Fong. If you will permit me, I will have to leave just now

to be aa witness before the Interior Committee on the Molokai reclama

tion project. We are trying to borrow $4 million from the Federal

Government. I will be back as soon as I can.

Bishop SWANSTROM . They spelled it out to me, actually, in pounds

of rice the ration they were permitted to retain was only enough to

feed a family for 10 days, whereas they had to stretch it over a whole

month. The price of rice on the black market was so exorbitant that

they could notpossibly obtain it.

Therefore, when they were turned back at the border by the Hong

Kong police, they were literally being told to go back to China and

starve with their families. That is a very strong statement, but in

essence , to my mind, that is what it amounted to .

No one could explain whythe Communist authorities had suddenly

relaxed their rigid control of the border, unless that was to embarrass

the free world. There may be some truth in this in view of the fact

that once the United States and Taiwan announced that they would

take some of these refugees, the Communists again sealed off the

border .

I watched the Hong Kong, police examine every vehicle coming

from the border at numerous checkpoints . Crowds of residents of the

colony watched as they seized different refugees who were attempting

to find their way into Hong Kong. I saw truckload after truckload

of refugees being returnedto the border to be sent back into China

and it reallywas a very sadand distressing experience.

I do not know exactly how many people tried to escape. It has

been estimated at anywhere from 60,000 to 70,000. The men to whom

I spoke told me there were at least 30,000 to 40,000 people waiting in

villages and on illsides on the Red Chinese side of thefrontier look

ing for a chance to slip into the crown colony.

Little groups of peoplefrom the villages would sit around where

they examine these buses and watch them taking them off. Some of

the refugees told me that the Red guards were sympathetic to them

and turned their backs on them when they saw them escaping.

Now, there is no denying that the Hong Kong Government, our own

U.S. Government, through its Far East refugee program , the volun

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 35

tary foreign relief agencies, and the indigenous agencies of Hong

Kong have done an amazing job in meeting the problem of the more

than 1 million Chinese refugees who are inHong Kong and Kowloon

at the moment.

When I was there in 1951, practically all of the refugees were liv

ing in makeshift huts of cardboard and tin all over the hillsides with

out anything inthe way of sanitation, schools,churches, dispensaries,

hospitals, and the like. Today, as you know , hundreds of thousands

of them are nicely housed in Hong Kong. There are roads and sew

ers, schools and churches, hospitals and dispensaries, and almost any

thing you want to mention for the welfare and the health of the

people. Practically everyone is employed even though wages are low.

More than anything else, the people are happy and contented in their

freedom .

It is true that there are still thousands of them living in makeshift

huts. In fact, you can stand in the foyer of the beautiful new hospital

of the Maryknoll Sisters which , incidentally, was erected with help

from our own Government and the HongKong Government in Kow

loon and lean out the window and touch the huts of refugees in which

life goes busily on . However, all of these people have hope that they

will be able to obtain the better type of housing that so many of their

friends andneighbors now enjoy.

I recall that in the early 1950's the situation looked almost hopeless

to the Hong Kong authorities. They refused to face the fact that

these refugees were going to be with them for a long time to come.

The voluntary agencies on theother hand had a more realistic attitude

about it. We began to build small cement houses for some of the

refugees; we erected schools, dispensaries, social centers and, of course,

churches. Gradually the Hong Kong Government and our own U.S.

Government began to help us with the housing. Then finally the

Hong Kong Government faced the situation squarely and began to

developpublic housing on a broad scale. The housing situation is

far fromperfect today,but itis a. far cry from that of 1950.

In those early days, the Chinese refugees themselves, industrious

and self-reliant as they are, began to build up small industries. To

day these have been expanded and there are industries of every nature,

small and large, in this bustling metropolis. I am only saying all

this toprove that no situation is hopeless.

In those early days of May, Hong Kong was threatened with an

other on -rush of halfmillion refugees. Someone estimated that with

an expenditure of $100 million housing and roads and sanitation and

all the other necessary facilities could have been erected for these

500,000 refugees in the stillundeveloped sections of the Crown Colony

just outside of Kowloon. That would have meant an expenditure of

$ 200 a person , little enough to save a life and possiblythe lives of

thousands of families still in China.

I think the refugees would have housed themselves in temporary

huts just as the refugees of the late 1940's had done while this new

development was taking place. However, I suppose that sounds like

too easy a solution for the problem .

I think the events of the last month have demonstrated that the

Chinese refugee problem in Hong Kong must be looked upon as an

international one. I think our Government should encourage the

36 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

other nations of the free world — incidentally, I cabled that to Presi 1

dent Kennedy and to Secretary Rusk — to look upon it as just such .

Perhaps it may even be desirable to set up another international

refugee organization similar to the old IRO to provide all that is

necessary for aa broader resettlement program for the Chinese refugees

who are presently in Hong Kongand Kowloon .

We have made a significant token gesture in agreeing to make it 1

possible for some 5,000 of these refugees to come to the United States

at the present time. It is hoped that Taiwan, Canada, Brazil, and

Paraguay will follow through no their offers to provide refuge for

additional numbers of them . Their transportation to these countries i

may present a problem and that is why I think the development of a

United Nations refugee organization to handle this phase of the prob 1

lem is essential .

Incidentally, I have a N.C.W.C. news service release of the 4th of

June, which says that the Taiwan Government is now preparing to 9

take about 30,000 of these refugees. One of our Government officials 1

said that the economy in Formosa could absorb between 100,000 and 1

200,000 of them without the economy being affected. Well , I ques

tion that. There is not too much economy in Formosa to be affected

anyway, but certainly, they can absorb 30,000 and possibly eventually

additional thousands.

However, I don't think immigration is the complete answer to the

problem , and even though much has been done, still more can be ac +

complished in the way of better housing and care of the refugees in

Hong Kong and Macao. The voluntary agencies are doing a fairly

good job of supplementary feeding with U.S. surplus food for the

poorest of the refugees. Their efforts are limited to some extent by

the amount of money that the Hong Kong Government and our own

provide for the processing and distribution of such foods. A little

more governmental help in this direction would mean much also .

Finally, I agree with those who feel that aa revision of our own basic

immigration law along the lines that Senator Hart has suggested in

his bill , would make it possible for the United States to offer its lead

ership in such crises on a more sound and salutary basis than is now

done on an emergency level.

These new refugee problems which are developing all over the

world are not ones of easy solution . However, the lives of hundreds

of thousands of human beings, made to the image and likeness of

God , like ourselves, are involved and no human effort should be

spared to find a solution to them . The nations of the free world met

the test before, when over 10 million people found themselves dis

placed in Europe after the last World War and I am sure they can

meet it again. Much of the leadership, however, will have to come

from our own Nation .

Senator Hart, I appreciate the opportunity given me to put that on

the record . I thank you.

Senator Hart. Bishop Swanstrom , we appreciate your help to the

committee in putting it on the record.

A number of things in the statement will continue to provide help

ful counsel , but one of them , I think, is of special value at the mo

ment - the reminder that you include on the situation of the early

fifties. Ever so many people in the last couple of weeks, including

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 37

editorial commentators, have made the point that this is a hopeless

situation. We should respond, they say, but largely with sympathy,

because, really , there are just too many Chinese.

>

Bishop SWANSTROM . I would like to say something, not for the rec

ord, though, if I may.

Senator Hart. Of course, you are in the presence of the press, so

we cannot go off the record for them .

Bishop SWANSTROM . This would have to be off the record .

Senator HART. Off the record.

( Discussion off the record. )

Bishop SWANSTROM . In 1945, when we had 10 million refugees,

maybe 11 million, and then new millions of expellees being added to

them , if everyone had thrown up their hands then, and if you will

remember, we started to forcibly repatriate some of them , then

righteous voices were raised and that was stopped, and IRO was set

up and they said, “We will resettle those of them who want to be

resettled someplace else in other countries." With the help of IRO,

over a million of them were resettled. I know it is not an easy job,

but I do not think you are going to do it without some sort of inter

national machinery, because you have the whole process of transpor

tation, place reception, and something else.

May I throw one thing more in ?

Senator HART. Yes.

Bishop SWANSTROM . It is only symptomatic of what is happening in

other parts of the world. They have refugee problems developing

in all of these African Republics. We are about the only ones who

still say that the Yugoslav refugee problem is a serious one. There,

too, you have people escaping from a system. The argument is given

in Congress and other places all the time that they are economic

refugees. All right ; call them economic refugees, but they are escap

ing from an economic system under which they cannot live. That

is what we are up against in this modern -day world of ours. The

Europan refugee problem has gradually disappeared. We are getting

all these refugee problems— we have a new refugee problem down in

Laos. While I was there, I gave a priest a couple of thousand dollars

to feed for 2 months 6,000 refugees who had just escaped from

Laos into Thailand .

It might have been only the beginning of a new refugee movement.

In — well,why go intoit, I am taking too much of your time.

Senator HART. No. Go ahead.

Bishop SWANSTROM . But it is true, I see this thing as part of a

total world problem in this age we are living in. It is a tough one.

Senator HART. I was interested in your comment that in Congress,

particularly, we spend a lot of time debating the distinction between

an " economic refugee” and a “ political refugee.” You would, accept

-

ing the definitions that have been developed in the course of this

debate, describe the people whom you saw in Hong Kong as " eco

nomic refugees” !

Bishop SWANSTROM . I would be inclined to. Many of them are

" economic refugees.” Oh, they prefer to leave China anyway, but

they would stay if they could get sufficient food and aa livelihood for

their people. Most of the people I talked to laughed at the present

situation politically in China. I asked them , well,“ What doyou hear

about the efforts of the United States in the exploration of space ? "

38 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

Well, they had heard all about the Russians. They heard a U.S.

man went up , but he only made sort of a token trip or something

likethat. They do not hear about what we are doing for the refugees

in Hong Kong or what we are trying to do for these African coun

tries, what we are trying to do for the Cuban.

So they know . Thethings they do not hear about — they hear about

them by word of mouth , of course, are the things that are being done

in the world but are hidden from them by their own Government.

But I would say “ economic refugees,” most of them , trying to escape

from a system that is breaking down.

Senator HART. You described the situation in a village, where the

villagers observed the local police stopping refugees and turning

them back . Was there any reaction to this on the part of the Chinese

who had settled in Hong Kong ?

Bishop SWANSTROM .I do not think I understand that completely.

Senator Hart. Well, specifically, when the Hong Kong authorities

stopped a group of refugees, the local Hong Kong people would ob

serve it. Whatwas theirreaction ?

Bishop SWANSTROM . Sort of a sad and pathetic one. They sat it

little groups by the roadside and watched these trucks being exam

ined. They saw the trucks going back, they felt kind of hopeless

about it.

I will tell you another one,though,off the record .

( Discussion off the record .)

Bishop SWANSTROM . I would say it was a feeling of desperation and

sadness. I would say there was a willingness on the part of - they

begged me to try todo something to prevent the Hong Kong authori

ties from stopping these people come across. Those million refugees

in Hong Kong would have absorbed those people just like the Cubans

in Florida absorbed their Cuban relatives and friends in the early

days. There would have been shacks going up all over if those people

had come in, you know .

Senator HART. Well, what about the reports we have seen in the

press of not only food shortages in Hong Kong, but аa water shortage

as well? Wouldn't this suggest difficulty in successfully absorbing

refugees. Have you any feeling about that ?

Bishop SWANSTROM . Well, I have to admit there was a water short

age,because in the middle of the day in your hotel, you would not get

much water. Well, with the ingenuity of man, I think you might meet

that one, too. I had not thought too much about it, but a few more

wells and so forth . I do not think the water did it. I think it was

largely a problem of their housing, roads, sanitation and so forth,

you see.

But, Senator, we spend millionsfor many things. With aа hundred

million dollars, you could just broaden the Kowloon colony. There

are 25 miles of land there . There are some farms and so forth , but

there is still plenty of land around Kowloon that could be developed.

As I say, that sounds like — it is not an easy solution, but it could

be done ; it was done before.

Senator Hart. What was your impression of the working relation

ship between the voluntary agencies in Hong Kong and the crown

colony authorities ?

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 39

Bishop SWANSTROM . Excellent, and between - the highest praise

for our own U.S. refugee program group there. Excellent. The

Hong Kong government,our ownGovernment, the voluntary agencies,

foreign ones, and the indigenous agencies, all working hand in hand.

It is really fine.

And you know , it is an answer to those who say that government

help cannot be extended nicely through voluntary agencies which

happen to have a religious character, you see. Our own Government

and the Hong Konggovernment have helped both the Protestants

and ourselves to erect fine hospitals and dispensaries in Hong Kong.

No one has questioned it. We are church -related agencies . But I

hear people say no state aid to the church, you cannot spend money

through a voluntaryagency that is church related. Well,, you have

the answerto it in Hong Kong.

Senator Hart. Almost as an aside — this may be useful someplace

down the road, although not necessarily in connection with a discus

sion of refugee matters — but you commented, and so did Mr. Mac

Cracken, on the distribution of our surplus food abroad. People

cite the fact that some of this gets into "black market " channels. They

say this is inevitable, it is normal, and from that they argue either

that we should continue the program or shut off.

What have you in your visits abroad, observed ?

What impression did you get ?

Bishop SWANSTROM . In Hong Kong in the early days, a black mar

ket developed because we gave people flour and corn meal in its natural

form and they did not have the meansto prepare it. Nowadays we are

converting flour and cornmeal into noodles and other things and feed

ing them that way and there is no attempt on the part of the people to

sell it because they need it for their own sustenance. We are giving

them foods that they can eat .

There is no organized black market in Hong Kong or Taiwan or any

place else. In Taiwan, where people are hungry, you give them the

foods in the same form .. Children are sick. They are going to go out

and sell some of the food in order to buy medicine for the sick child .

We are preventing that, even , nowadays, with the help of the Taiwan

Government. They recently passed a law making it a crime for anyone

to sell or buy any of the U.S.surplus food .

I would say there is a very limited, tiny black market sometimes.

Things are bound to get on to the black market if people exchange them

for something that they need more. But the important thing about

it, there is no organized black market in any one of those places. I

think that thing is blown up outof all proportions.

I wentall over the place while I was there. You cannot go into a

store in Hong Kong now and buy U.S. surplus food. Oh, you might

find an isolated store where .a number of people in аa. small community

sell it. I could not find any.

No, Senator, between our own Government, U.S. aid, between the

indigenous government and between the voluntary agencies and the

indigenous agenciesof the country, a superhuman effort is being made

to wipe out even a minor black market.

You raised - well, I do not want to go into the question of Taiwan.

Senator Hart. By all means.

40 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

Bishop SWANSTROM. Well, there is a tremendous poverty all over

the island. About 8 months ago, our two governments, representatives

of the two governments concerned, representatives of the agencies got

together, set up a new ration card system and so forth, had the Chi

nese Government pass this law, and we are prepared to move ahead on

the basis of that now, don't you see . What they are doing, they are

eliminating these little hawkers, as they call them , who stand outside

a distribution center and try to buy the flour and cornmeal and milk

from the people, because they are no longer permitted by law and the

local peoplecanarrest themif theydo it now. I see whateverthreat

of a black market there was in Taiwan being gradually wiped out a

year from now . And I will fall on that statement a year from now if

I have to.

But, gentlemen, I talk tomen who are out distributing this food day

after day or week after week and they are making a superhuman effort,

you see. Now , as I say, we are converting the food into other forms.

We are converting the milk into liquid form . We are converting the

cornmeal and flour into noodles, even doughnuts and a few other pal

atable things, so that the people can eat them or use them immediately.

Of course, in order to do it, the voluntary agencies have not an

unlimited budget, either ; we need some help from governments in

order to do the conversion and do the distribution and so forth , and

we have been getting it.

Senator HART. One last question from me. Not frequently,, but

occasionally, we have been told of instances where Communists have

attempted to infiltrate the community in Hong Kong, the refugee

community. Have you any comment on that ?

Bishop SWANSTROM. I read it in the papers. Isaw no evidence of

it myself, but I have no doubt but that isdone. But, Senator, I say,

are we afraid of a few Communist agents in Hong Kong? The gen

eral masses of the people in Hong Kong want no part ofcommunism .

So of the few Chinese agents, they cannot put it in the light of the

story of the hunger and deprivation in China that the new refugees

arebringing into the colony.

You can talk to any refugee in the colony nowadays and they

know what is going on in China. They know that they were lucky

to get away from it and their friends and relatives are coming in and

telling them the true story.

It may be true. I was going to say something about it in my

statement, but I did not think it was necessary. I do not think we

should have too much of a fear of them . Youhave a security police

in Hong Kong which is as good as any in the world and they should

be able to ferret out these Communist people as they come in . I do

not think there is anything to it.

If they want to send them in, Mr. Senator, they can send them over

the border at night just like these other refugees that come over the

border, escape. They do not have to come in as part of a big surge

of refugees. They get into thecolony, come through Macao.

Andincidentally ,I think it is a mistake to think that this thing is

going to stop now . If the famine goes on in China, more people are

going to try to escape, and they are still trying to escape right now.

We had a letter from our manin Hong Kong yesterday saying that

some of them are still managing to find their way across. They

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 41

come through Macao every day in the week. So whether there will

be another big onrush of them , no one can tell, but it would not sur

prise me at all.

The Formosa Government thinks that there will be. They say that

the government feels certain that the present stoppage of refugees

in Hong Kong due to measures taken by the Communists is only

temporary. The government is therefore proceeding with prepara

tions for receptionof refugees.

I doubt if it has been stopped permanently, unless conditions im

prove greatly in China.

Senator HART. There is always a danger in saying this is your last

question. What you have just said suggests another one, not directly

related, however,to the problem in Hong Kong at the moment. But

what about food for Red China ? Let's assume, as you say, there is

a possibility that famine may develop in Red China. What should

our response be ?

Bishop SWANSTROM . Well, I must be honest ; I have not been able

to form a true opinion in regard to it. I spoke with a number of

people in Hong Kong and there was a divided opinion. Some felt

that you would be helping the Chinese Communist Government, that

maybe the people would prefer to suffer rather than help the Chinese

Communist Government. Others felt, well, here, a poor human being

is starving and no matter what the end result is, you should try to

help them. I must confess, I have not got a real, definite opinion

on it .

I would say in a humanitarian, Christian point of view, I would

do everything I could to bring food in to them . On the other hand,

in view of the political consequences, the danger of helping a Commu

nist government to grow stronger - I do not know . We had the same

question in regard to Cuba, you know .

Senator Hart. Well, at least your answer , Bishop, is helpful

Bishop SWANSTROM . Have you got an answer!

Senator Hart. No. At least your answer is helpful to those who

write us who do know absolutely what we should do.

Monsignor McCarthy, did you have something you wanted to add ?

Monsignor MoCARTHY. I have nothing to add, Senator ; thank you.

Mr. JOHNSON . Bishop Swanstrom , in one part of your statement,

you suggest that there is an actual shortage of food for purposes of

distribution. Did I understand you correctly ? We have had con

flicting reports on this. The immediate reaction , of course, to the

dramatic situation early in May, was that vast quantities of food were

going to be needed. Are there adequate surplus agricultural com

modities available for Hong Kong's needs ?

Bishop SWANSTROM . My answer to that is we could provide a better

ration to the people if we had the means of converting more of the

food into things that could not be sold, you see. Our ration at the

present timeis very limited formany of the people.

Mr. JOHNSON. You are speaking, now, qualitatively ?

Bishop SWANSTROM . Yes ; qualitatively. But everyone who needs it

is getting something. That is the only reason I say they could use

more if we had the means of convertingmore and the means, the finan

cial means of distributing it.

We would furnish a better ration to many people.

42 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

Mr. JOHNSON. Would this be, for example, an increase in noodle

production and the reconstitution of milk, and probably a higher

amount of protein ? I assume the major part of the present diet is

starch .

Bishop SWANSTROM. That is right. All those in need , however, are

being covered at the present time.

Mr. JOHNSON . There is no starvation ?

Bishop SWANSTROM . No.

Mr. JOHNSON. The other thing I was interested in was the view

expressed that a similar situation, aswe are presently faced with in

Hong Kong, was solved in Europe. I do notknow the total number

of people who emigrated from Europe, but it was in excess of a million,

probably 2 or 3 million .

Bishop SWANSTROM . I think that is about right.

Mr. Johnson .One of the things we noticed was that following the

passage of the Displaced Persons Act in 1943, Canada increased its

quota , and Australia began admitting non-British people. But in

the case ofChinese refugees, there seems to be a different feeling.

Assuming the United States and other countries have the capacity

to admit additional people, to what degree do you think it possible

to provide opportunities for Chinese immigration, commensurate with

the inflow of refugees into Hong Kong, which over the past 10 years

has been around 50,000 a year ?

Bishop SWANSTROM . Ithink if the governments would get together

on it, it might be possible to assist places like Taiwan, Vietnam ,

Malaya, and places that have traditionally accepted Chinese, to absorb

more ofthem . Andthe Philippines, possibly, although I knowthat is

crowded already. We might open up some opportunities for them in

Latin American countries.

Mr. JOHNSON . Well, in essence, then , the program would call for

a shift from a relief operation to the stimulation of the economies of

the areas they would be resettling in ?

Bishop SWANSTROM . I think so.

Mr. Johnson. Hong Kong some years ago was a port. Now it is

an industrial center. If Taiwan wants to become a place of resettle

ment, it will likewise have to become an industrial area.

Bishop SWANSTROM . Right.

Mr. JOHNSON . And likewise other places.

Bishop SWANSTROM. Yes. Which can be done, though, you see .

Mr. JOHNSON. Well, in effect, it might mean we would have to shift

our operation from one of relief to a greater emphasis on economic

development as envisaged under the foreign aid programs.

Bishop SWANSTROM . That is right. And it is in line with the food

for peace program , it is in line with the title II program - use more

of our food for work projects to help make the peopleself-sustaining.

You can oversimplify it, but there are thousands of little things that

can be done in Taiwan, like opening up roads, improving irrigation

through the driving of wells, all of which is being done at the present

time by voluntary effort, which little help from government of any

kind, you see.

The missionaries have changed their whole tack from a purely

missionary effort to what you might call a social effort, the social

mission of these missionaries. AndI talked to them. They are help

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ingto cut little roads so that men can bring their produce to the market

easier ;driving wells, building little irrigation ditches and so forth.

With the help of the U.S. aid program and the local government

itself, much more could be done in that direction, you see, using title

II foods and using some help.

I honestly think - I am expressing too many opinions— we do not

do enoughto bring our foreign aid program down to the level of the

people. That is the thing we have to do and then you will help bring

about a better absorption of these people.

Senator Hart. I have heard that opinion expressed before, too.

Mr. Nishimura, do you have questions ?

Mr. NISHIMURA. Bishop Swanstrom , in your observation in Taiwan ,

how many thousand Hong Kong refugees can Taiwan absorb for

resettlement purposes ?

Bishop SWANSTROM . I would say at the moment, 25,000 with no

difficulty. Gradually, up to 100,000, with the type of assistance we

have just been talking about, get the people established on farms and

in little industries andso forth .

Mr. NISHIMURA. Up to about 100,000 ?

Bishop SWANSTROM . Yes ; and I say that because I think the Chi

nese Government in Taiwan would agree with that.

Senator Hart. Mr. Ziemba, do you have any questions ?

Mr. ZIEMBA. No.

Bishop SWANSTROM . Thank you. I hope I have not taken too much

time.

Senator HART. I had indicated the subcommittee would next hear

from Mr. Richard Reuter. But I understand Mr. vanden Huevel

has an appointment downtown soon. Perhaps he has already left.

Our next witness is Mr. Richard Reuter, the directer of CARÉ.

STATEMENT OF RICHARD REUTER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF

CARE, INC.

Mr. REUTER. As executive director of CARE , I have had the oppor

tunity to be conversant with the evolving HongKong picture over

the years since World War II. The CĂRE office in Hong Kong

consists of two men from our American staff and six local employees.

We work closely with the British authorities and find them most

cooperative and helpful. The donors to CARE have exhibited over

these years a sincere interest in the refugees who have crowded this

free world outpost.

May I provide for the committee a report of the activities of CARE

in Hong Kong and Macao since we started regular operations there

in 1954 ?

Senator HART. The committee will receive that for the files and wel

come it.

( The document referred to will be found in the files of the sub

committee.)

Mr. REUTER. As background information on any on-going people

to-people program , this may be useful for your deliberations. Cer

tainly following Bishop Swanstrom's thorough report, it is not nec

essary to take the committee's time now for the details. I would be

most happy, after these few words, to attempt to answer any ques

tions that are within my competence.

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Two weeks ago, as the influx of refugeesreached a new high , CARE

authorized its stockpile of food and blankets to be used as required

to aid the most needy of the newcomers. This was distributed through

special emergency machinery set up by the Hong Kong Government

and was part ofa pool arrangement by all of the agencies working

jointly. Within a week, the CARE board of directors representing

the 28 major American welfare,social and fraternal organizations

which are member agencies of CARE allocated an additional $100,000

from net margin funds for emergency refugee aid in Hong Kong.

This sum is available when we have the appropriate project.

This additional $175,000 brought the total of CARE aid for Hong

Kong to over $ 6,400,000 since 1954. Quite naturally the bulk of this

CARE aid was in the form of food and it includes some $4.3 million

worth of U.S. surplus foods distributed under CARE's so-called food

crusade program and an additional $ 1,114,000 worth of food pur

chased by CARE , including rice, tea, pickled cabbage, and other items.

I might interpolate just a comment here, in light of your question ,

Mr. Chairman, in regard to the use of surplus commodities.

One of the factors that we found in our experiences in Hong Kong

was the difficulty of utilizing foods unfamiliar to the refugees for

family feeding operations. The flour distributed in the form of

flour alone, and milk powder, was not satisfactory to a family that was

not used to its use. It created difficulties in proper utilization. We

have found these sameitems distributed through a controlled situation,

a Kaifong school distribution or through an institution, accomplished

the proper goal. But this is the reason that, despite the availability

of surpluses, we still purchased over a million dollars' worth of food,

much of it in the Hong Kong market, because it was typical food that

would be the type used by the people normally. Over the years, our

experience has been that it is very difficult to change dietary habits,

regardless of the pressure for food .

CARE is therefore continuing this purchasing policy , as well as the

use of American agricultural commodities wherever possible. Under

agreement just reached with the U.S. Department of Agriculture

and AID , some 10,000 needy children and 12,000 adults in hospitals

and other institutions will be the recipient on a regular basis of

powdered milk, cornmeal, vegetable oil, and other foods as they are

available during the coming fiscal year.

In addition, CARE has distributed some $290,000 worth of blankets,

clothing materials, and other supplies, usuallyto fire victims and on

an emergency basis. Some of these, incidentally, are received as cor

porate gifts from American manufacturers, who have shown a con

siderable interest in this problem .

Most importantly, we believe, however, in terms of strengthening

the capacity of Hong Kong to withstand the continuing threat of eco

nomic warfare is the $540,000 which has been made available by donors

for so-called self-help assistance which CARE has been able to bring

to the people in the colony. This includes tool kits, supplies for fish

ing cooperatives, for agriculture, supplies for public health and social

welfare centers, cooperation with ongoing programs. The unique as

pect of the CARE self-help program in the economic field is that its

beneficiaries are paying back over a period of time the cost of the orig

inal equipment. Such moneys go into a revolving fund administered

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by the cooperative neighborhood improvement association or by their

Kaifong so that other members may be able to purchase much needed

equipment. We feel this is a continuing factor in maintaining the dig

nity of the recipient and giving him a sense of participation in the

solution of his own economic problem .

A perfect illustration of this is a fisherman's settlement at the island

of Ap Chau,in Mirs Bay, nearthe northeastern corner of the newer

territories . Some 60 fishermen's families were settled on this little

island after they escaped from the mainland. The story is detailed in

this report and it is an encouraging story of government and private

effort. Because this island, which had previously been uninhabitable,

was made satisfactory for these families by the provision of a water

line which was put under the bay from the mainland as a joint effort

of British Government engineering support, USEP funding, and

CARE voluntary participation. We, ourselves, put almost $20,000

into this program , and these families are today living in a degree of

self-sufficiency that would have seemed impossible previously.

Not included in the CARE Hong Kong total of $6,400,000 is an ad

ditional $ 431,000 worth of refugee aid so far distributed in neighbor

ing Macao, including specifically some $405,000 worth of U.S. surplus

foods and $ 20,000 worth of food purchased by CARE and about $ 5,500

worth of self-help supplies. We have not been able to develop the

same type of imaginative self-help programing in Macao. The im

portance of Macao, however, as a halfway stop on the escape route,

has also been recognized by the U.S. Government, and the U.S. Refu

gee and Migration Unit in Hong Kong has recently earmarked some

$ 430,000 for food, blanket, and other emergency supplies to be dis

tributed by CARE among escapees in Macao and an additional $12,000

which we are quite proud of, was allocated to a dining room and

noodle plant in Macao which will serve some 3,000 needy children

daily with a hot meal under the food -for-peace program. These RMU

programs, I should add, are in addition to the $690,000 spent over the

past 6 years by this unit of the State Department for various projects

and emergency fire victim aids administered by CARE in Hong

Kong proper.

This matter of Hong Kong, concluding, sir, is a deeply emotional

question . Americans want to help refugees from communism , but

even more deeply, from my experience, I would say that we are moved

as Americans by need, human need , regardless of the reason. The

plight of the homeless, the pathetic, but the energetic refugees in

Hong Kong stirs our sympathies. Yet I do not feel, in carrying out

comment on your discussion earlier, that there is a solution short of an

international political solution or short of aa solution within mainland

China itself. Hong Kong, Formosa, the Pacific islands, the Western

World generally, cannot possiblyabsorb all the peoplewho apparently

are eager to leave China. But I think the danger of this position is

that it should not be taken to mean that we should not do what we

can in terms of resettlement for those individuals we can help.

The situation, of course , is very different from that other former

doorway - Berlin. There, refugees from East Germany could look

forward to assurance for establishing a new life in West Germany.

It seems to us at CARE that especially because there does not appear

to be a reasonable hope for resettlement of significant numbers of

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either those now in Hong Kong or the millions more who would be

there, that we have a responsibility to try tomake the lot of the human

being therewhom we can reach more bearable.

I would like to include for the record that we feel the British au

thorities have done a most commendable job. I think, too, that

USEA, the refugee and migration unit of our State Department

should particularly be commended for the imagination and the

human consideration that they have put into carrying out their as

signment. But nowhere have the voluntary agencies done a larger

share of the relief job than in Hong Kong.

The churches of America, as you have heard this morning, have con

sistently and persistently sacrificed to maintain_large -scale, well

staffed , effective programs. The International Rescue Committee,

World University Service, and similar nonsectarian groups have im

portant programs. Although each works in its own way, these Amer

ican voluntary efforts have been surprisingly well coordinated . Yet

all of us together, both public and private sector assistance, have, it

seems to me ,as the most important reason for effectiveness, the energy,

the patience, the inherent skill of the Chinese people themselves. They

arewonderful people to work with. I think this is a reason that, more

and more, CARE is putting its resources and energies, which are,

ofcourse, limited, into cooperative development schemes, into fishing

villages and farmer assistance and cottage industry. The result of

these programs is to help raise the dignity of those individuals.

These projects may not solve the overall problem — they will not

solve the overall problem . But they can solve the individualproblem

and with enoughof these we may materially ease the overall human

burden . I believe that we can do no less and be true to ourselves.

Senator Hart. Mr. Reuter, thank you for a fine statement. I am

sure that those who read it will recognize again the substantial con

tribution that CARE has made to a part of the world that many of

us will never get to. For that the committee certainly thanks you.

On a narrower question ,What is the present regulation or law with

respect to the sending of CARE packages into mainland China ?

Mr. REUTER. There is not thepossibility of sending CARE pack

agesas such into mainland China. I am not familiar with all of the

regulations, which would be postal regulations, for providing pack

ages. I am sure the committee staff would have much more informa

tion on that regulation, but CARE itself has pursued the policy that

it does not work in any area of the world in which it cannot have

agreement by the host country to its basic provisions of operation .

We feel we should not operate in acountry unless we have been in

vited to work there and that wewould have the opportunity of utiliz

ing our own staff for the handling of such distributions. This has

never been a possibility in mainland China, although we did operate

briefly in Kwantung Province just before the Chinese Communist

takeover, and at that time made overtures toward continuing a pro

gram there which were never answered .

Senator Hart. Is this also the situation, as far as CARE is con

cerned, in those European countries which are behind the Iron Cur

tain ?

Mr. REUTER. We have it at the present time an operation that is a

very effective operation in Poland and in Yugoslavia. At least, we

did have such up until last night. These programs are with the

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participation of CARE American staff and have, it seems to me,

provided a magnificent opportunity for individuals in the United

States to indicate a concern for individuals in those countries, and

the relationship, because it has not been done on a political basis,

and because it has no other purpose than to exemplify this very legiti

mate concern, has had a remarkable effectiveness. And I would just

like to add in the record that our experience in both countries has

been one of strict adherence to the provisions of the contract which

has allowed us to operate with our own staff and with clear identifica

tion as to the source of the donor.

Senator HART. I appreciate getting that statement. I am not sure

that if it had been available 24 hours ago, it would have made any

difference in the Senate voting. But it is an additional reason why

I hope that the action taken by the Senate yesterday with respect

to limiting the President's authority in distribution of mutual aid,

and even Public Law 480 commodities, will not be agreed to by the

House .

Mr. Johnson . Mr. Reuter, I would like to ask one question, which

I think I also asked Mr. Devine last year. Perhaps your experience

in this last year has been helpful. How much potentiallies in the

further development of the self-help projects which CARE has done

so much in pioneering in termsof refugees, and particularly, of course,

I am thinking of the Hong Kong situation. We are familiar with ,

and had rather extensive testimony, on the fishing village which

CARE established in Hong Kong. I am wondering how much fur

ther opportunity there is for similar help by CARE .

Mr.REUTER. I think this can be materially increased. The ability

to organize a cooperative effort there has been so successful because

of the nature of the people participating and because of the support

ing position of the British authorities who provide machinery for

the regulation of cooperatives which is properand provides backstop.

Because of this, I think that that type of programing can be mate

rially increased. Each time you improve the economic position of a

small group of these people, I think that you also improve the poten

tial for the children to go to school, so that you start to bring a new

generation with skills that in turn improve the economic potential

wherever they may find their future life. The tragedy is that the

inherent skill which the Chinese brings as a refugee is so frequently

not supported by technical skills. It is not necessarily supported by

an educational background that allows him to write, and in the com

petitive picture thre, the availability of education is of great im

portanceto the economic future of the people. Now , I think these

can be materially increased, but unfortunately , this is not the kind

of thing that can be necessarily projected by the amount of money

available. If they are going to be legitimately useful, they must

spring from the people themselves to a very large degree. And while

you can encouragethis, you cannot be sure that you are going to have

the project unless the people really wanted it.

Mr. JOHNSON . This leads to my next question, and that is, could the

U.S. Government, through any of its programs, do anything to stimu

late, to assist, or to promote such activity ?

Mr. REUTER. Not only canthey, but they have been . Our experi

ence has been, and I mentioned in my prepared testimony, particularly,

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the imagination that has been shown by the RMU people, because it

seems to methat in aa situation such as this, we do require imagination.

At many points, the solution is not going to be the standard approach.

It may require a new method to accomplish our goal. And I have been

particularly pleased by the willingness to consider new approaches

and by their willness to provide financing for pilot efforts in this

in this direction .. I am certain that additional funding will be useful,

but in honesty, I will have to report that there has not been a restric

tion on funding that has materially held us back in the operation.

Mr. JOHNSON. I notice Mr. Richard Brown sitting in the back of

the room .I am sure he will appreciate your comments.

Mr. DE HAAN . I have a general question here which in your answer

you may or may not apply to Hong Kong. But what is your view

of the position of the voluntary agencies in the overall pattern of

American foreign policy ? What are your feelings on this matter,

as to what role the agencies play ? Do they play a great role, a small

role ?

Mr. REUTER . I have aa feeling on this, that could keep the committ

much longer than they wish to stay. I would just try to summarize

that by saying that I feel strongly that the voluntary agency is a re

flection of the natural American pattern of meeting itsresponsibili

ties, that in many instances, Americans in our own country and in

terms of the international scene, find a satisfaction in making use of

an organization of their choice and their control to undertake their

program . I think that it has been one of the magnificent stories of

the postwar period, the way the American public has made use of its

agencies, through its church groups and throughother organizations,

and I think groups such as the Federation of Women's Clubs and

Lions Clubs are not often recognized for the amount of activity they

do undertake in the international field . I think this has been a

strength, because it also helps to interpret to the Congress the

concerns .

Specifically, IΙ would say that one of the great values to the CARE

program has been the ability to undertake pilot efforts until wefind

new techniques. Then these can often be better supported by the

large scale financial abilities that can only be made available through

Government moneys. But this ability to represent the concern of

Americans without other reason is of great value.

Much of what we are doing in the world today, I think, is trying to

change the attitudes of people, and we don't know many of the answers

in this area .

Mr. De Haan . I have just one more question. Would it be correct

to assume from your testimony, that you believe the best approach to

the Hong Kong situation is through the local integration of the

refugees — through the boosting of the economy so that it can absorb

the talents and the potential of the refugees !

Mr. REUTER. I am only saying this within my frame of competence .

I would not wish to use this and say this is the best answer, because

that includes aa lot of variables which I am not competent to answer .

Mr. De Haan . But under today's circumstances and for the present

time, this is a substantially correct approach ?

Mr. REUTER. Yes.

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Mr. NISHIMURA . You stated in your statement that you feel that

the resettlement of refugees can be carried out in fishing villages, in

farmlands, and I believeyou said cottage industry.

Mr. REUTER. Yes.

Mr. NISHIMURA. What do you mean by "cottage industry ” ?

Mr. REUTER. I am speaking about small - scale production indus

tries, the handicraft production, which often can be used as a supple

ment for the income of the fishing villager.

Mr. NISHIMURA. Family avocation, or family enterprise ?

Mr. REUTER. Yes ; and this will frequently provide a cash income

to the family which is not available from their other activity which

may be at a pretty much subsistence level.

Mr. NISHIMURA. I see.

Thank you .

Senator HART. Thank you again , Mr. Reuter.

Mr. REUTER. Thank you, sir.

Senator Hart. Our next witness is the president of the Interna

tional Rescue Committee, Mr. vanden Heuvel.

STATEMENT OF WILLIAM J. VANDEN HEUVEL, PRESIDENT, INTER

NATIONAL RESCUE COMMITTEE , INC., NEW YORK , N.Y.; ACCOM

PANIED BY DEANNA CHU

Mr. VANDEN HEUVEL. I would like, if I may, to begin by introduc

ing Deanna Chu, who is the first of the Chinese refugees to arrive in

New York from Hong Kong under the President's emergency pro

gram . She arrived yesterday afternoon.

Senator HART. I welcome you , Miss Chu. I wish the record in

cluded photographs. I am sure that the reception of Chinese in this

country would be stepped up appreciably if they could just see you,

Mr. VANDEN HEUVEL. Speaking as president of the International

Rescue Committee, I would say that Miss Chu's presence here today

is a positive vindication of the validity of the President's program

which has opened the portals of the United States to at least 5,000

Chinese refugees from Hong Kong. Her own case history is an in

teresting one . She has come to joinher family , her mother andher

father and her four sisters who have lived in the United States. They

all escaped from Shanghai in 1949 when the Communists took over

that city. At various times since then they came to the United States.

Miss Chu was deprived of that privilege because she had a tubercular

mark in 1956 when her eligibility came up. She is now, of course,

totally recovered, but unless the program had come along which is

now being discussed, she could have only looked forward to many more

years of separation from her family. Instead of that, she has been

welcomed to the United States and you may have seen the pictures

in today's papers of the family reunion yesterday in New York . It

was an extraordinary scene. She is in Washington today to per

sonally thank the Congress and the Attorney General of the United

States for the program that has made it possible for her to be here.

Senator HART. Well, it goes without saying that this is a very excit

ing and emotionally charged moment. I repeat with much greater

seriousness than perhaps my first commentindicated , the warmest

welcome. I think the International Rescue Committee can feel what,

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in a sense , the chairman feels. There are a lot of times around here

when I am glad that the Senate is not on television, but this is one time

when I wish very much that every American could be present, and I

think certain attitudes might change.

Mr. VANDEN HEUVEL . Thank you, Senator.

I have not prepared a statement to submit today, principally be

cause, returning only yesterday from Hong Kong, and with the events

that have filled the last 24 hours, I have not had an opportunity to

prepare a written statement, but I have given a considerable amount

of thought to the remarks that I would like to make and I shall re

duce them to written form later.

I would like to begin by making several observations. I have been

to Hong Kong several times prior to 1957, generally in the company

of General Donovan, who had been our Ambassador to Thailand.

This is the first time I have been to Hong Kong as president of the

International Rescue Committee to really study the refugee situation .

As we all consider the Hong Kong refugee problem , I think there are

certain basic points that we should keep in mind. First of all, Hong

Kong has not asked for our assistance. When I say " our, " Í mean

the United States or free world assistance. In other words, the Hong

Kong Government, which has set such an extraordinary example to

the world in dealing with refugee problems, has not to this point found

it necessary to make a direct appeal for the assistance of the nations of

the free world .

Secondly,in considering programs that may affect the Chinese

refugees in Hong Kong, I think we should keep in mind that Hong

Kong itself is ananachronism , that it is a colony in an era of anti

colonialism , that it exists by Communist sufferance. I do not think

there is any doubt in the minds of any of those who are given the re

sponsibility for Hong Kong but that the Chinese Communists could

take it over in a matter of minutes if they so desired .

The fact that it is allowed to continue must mean, it seems to me,

that Hong Kong servesa purpose for many nations. It serves the

purpose of Communist China as perhaps its only and most valuable

outlet to the rest of the world . It serves the extraordinary purpose to

us, to the free world, as being one of the sole sanctuaries being the

sole sanctuary, really — for allowing Chinese refugees to come to free

dom and security. I say this about Hong Kong and its political status

only because I think that theChinese refugee problem allows very little

room for political maneuvering, that the greatest single need for Hong

Kong and its refugees is the unselfish concern and the compassionate

assistance of the nations of the free world .

I will go onestep further and associate myself completely with the

remarks of Bishop Swanstrom . I would emphasize his remark and

perhaps take it somewhat further by saying thatmass migration, in

myjudgment, is not the answer for Hong Kong and it is not the answer

to the Chinese refugee problem .

If the question could have been posed precisely to the authorities in

Hong Kong in the early days of May as to whether or not they could

have permitted or would have permitted the exodus of 50,000 or

60,000 or 70,000 refugees into Hong Kong, there isno doubt in my

mind but that they would have allowed it. But the question that

was posed to the authorities in Hong Kong was not the allowance,

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the permission for 70,000 people to come into the crown colony. It

was the fact that the Communist border controls had been totally

relaxed for reasons that no one knew and theprospect they faced was

not of a limited number of refugees coming into the colony, but per

haps 100,000 or 200,000 or perhaps 1 million.

The point that I am making is that what the authorities in Hong

Kong faced and the problem that compelled their direct reply was a

problem without dimensions that were measurable. As we think of

the problem today aided by hindsight, it is altogether possible for us

to say they should have opened up the gates and let these 70,000 people

in. But that is not the problem that they faced on May 1.

I tried, in speaking to British authorities, to Americans, to count

less Chinese refugees themselves, to representatives of the Chinese

community, to answer some questions for myself, such as what was

the crisis and who were the refugees ? Again, I associate myself with

the remarks of Bishop Swanstrom , I would go somewhat further in

saying that these refugees generally speaking numbered around 60,

000. The great majority of them were refugees from the southern

provinces of China. They were peasant farmers principally . Only in

the last days of the exodus was it clearly seen that the refugees were

also coming from thecities. As far as Ican understand, there was no

obvious indication of extensive malnutrition. Very possibly, there

was hunger. But thatis not to say that there wasstarvation. The

refugees who came in, I think , complainedof a variety of things asso

ciated with hunger and they were fed by the Hong Kong authorities.

No one can precisely say what it is that motivated this exodus. In

terms of China, in terms of the Chinese refugee situation, to say that

70,000 people sought asylum in Hong Kong is not to measure a very

large number.

My own feeling is that the exodus was motivated by several things.

First of all, I think it had its roots in the census taken in Hong Kong

last year which revealed that 312 million people now live in that terri

tory , that the potential population explosion - and when Isay poten

tial, I mean that that is just ahead in the next 2 or 3 years — faces Hong

Kong with an automatic increase (without any additional influx of

refugees) of at least 100,000 people a year. In the period of the next

decade, without the additional influx of a single refugee, Hong Kong

will have another million in its population.

Thecensus figures show, for example, that 41 percent of the popula

tion of HongKong is under 15. As this population approaches ma

turity, marries, the population explosion is going to be even greater

than presently anticipated . With this in mind, I think the authorities

probably gave the first real concern to the problem of how many can

you let in and still maintain aa viable colony.

In early April six refugees who had illegally entered the colony

were returned to China. At approximately the same time, as I under

stand it, there was mounting pressure in China itself for relaxed

border controls so that peasants and the residents of southern China

could more freely enter Hong Kong to visit relatives, to buy food,

etc. The indication is that the Chinese Communist government gave

in to this pressure because it cost them nothing to do so and it wasone

means of lessening tensions. So a great number of exit permits were

issued at that time.

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The rumors spread fast. With the exit permits being issued , with

the possibility that the British were going to close off entrance into

the crown colony except for very limited numbers, a great number

suddenly decided that this was the time to take advantage of an op

portunity to leave. If you described the suffering they brought with

them in terms of spiritual depression , in terms of moral anguish, in

terms of physical ħunger, and I think you would be right in every

respect .

This was an additional cause that drove the refugees to the border.

The Communists have now entered upon a new policy where ashortage

or raw materials has caused the closing of factories in cities like

Canton . The city populations have been compelled to go to the villages

to help with the harvest and the farming. This has been resentedby

both groups, by the villagers who also have too little food and are

not anxious to share what they have with strangers, and by the city

dwellers, who have no desire to becomepeasants in turn and who do not

care to live among strangers.

The one side effect, certainly for those voluntary agencies and the

agencies of the United States that have been concerned with Hong

Kong for a number of years, is that for the first time, the real focus

of attention in this country has been put upon Hong Kong and its

refugee problems. We in the International Rescue Committee had

more calls, for example, of offers of help and assistance from private

American citizens in the first 2 weeks of May concerning the Chinese

refugees than we have had in the past year concerning the Cuban

refugees. There was a real identity with the problem and a tre

mendous urge to help.

I said earlier that the Hong Kong Government, to my knowledge,

has not asked for assistance . I think it is important in assaying this

refugee problem to know that , to know that we are dealing with a

problem that is under the general jurisdiction of the British Govern

ment, to know that we are also dealing with a colony that has managed

to set an unprecedented example of having budget surpluses in 12 of

the last 14 years. The extraordinary example that Hong Kong has

shown of the capability of absorbing a million refugeesis also em

phasized by what I think is a fact, that the greatest resources of Hong

Kong is the refugee. The refugee has enabled the Hong Kong

economy to expand and to be enlarged and to be immensely profit

able in many ways, and at the same time, Hong Kong has given to the N

refugee the one supreme right that in my experience, all refugees seek ,

the right to be self-sufficient and to be self-reliant and to make for him

self and his family aa daily living.

To my knowledge, the crown colony has received no financial assist

ance from the United Kingdom for its refugee needs. The declared

policy of the crown colony is to absorb the refugees as soon as pos

sible. When you talk in Hong Kong about refugees at least the Gov

ernment authorities, you are quickly channeled into another are of dis

cussion , because in their judgment, they do not want to call this a

" refugee problem .” This is a problem of absorption of a population.

The refugee or the person who flees across that border is made into a

part of Hong Kong community and he is treated as a part of the

Hong Kong community at the earliest possible moment.

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I also went to Macao on this trip and I would make aa few comments,

if I may , about that. Evidences of malnutrition were much clearer, to

me, among the refugees arriving in Macao than in Hong Kong. The

escapes being made to Macao are much more dramatic in many ways

than the escapes being made to Hong Kong, involving much peril to

the lives of those who had been denied exit permits by Communist

officials. Those who escape to Macao, having been denied exit permits

by the Chinese Government, frequently comeasa measure oftheir own

personal despair and their own reaction to the Chinese Communist

Government . Again , I think Macao has done a tremendous job in

trying to give sustenance and assistance to the refugees. The volun

tary agencies who work in Macao and in Hong Kong are really worthy

of great admiration. Anybody who sees the CARE feeding station

in Macao can only be deeply and profoundly impressed, or sees the re

habilitation center established by the American Association for the

Overseas Blind, or sees the extraordinary work done by the church

groups in Hong Kong and Macao. To spend a day with Father Ruiz

in Macao is a personal experience that rery few people who have ever

had it will forget. He is a person who has given his life to the care

of the refugees.

I would make additional comments about the problems of Taiwan

in relation to Hong Kong and the extremely delicate problems of re

settlement in Taiwan, but I would prefer to make those at a later date

and perhaps under differentcircumstances.

Senator HART. Would it be possible to include those in the written

report ?

Mr. VANDEN HEUVEL. Yes ; I will try to do that, Senator.

In conclusion , I would just like to make what Í regard as the points

of assistance that are possible and reasonable in the current emergency

concerning HongKong. First of all, I think the greatest need among

the refugees in Hong Kong is for continued assistance at every level,

and I would emphasize especially the direct assistance of the voluntary

agencies who are involved in resettlement and rehabilitation within

the crown colony itself.

I realize in saying this that I am pleadinga special interest, because

the International Rescue Committee is involved in this work. But I

think that the heads of the other voluntary agencies would agree with

me that the greatest single need for these refugees is to be trained and

permitted to make their own living and to be self -sufficient as soon as

possible. To that end, we have entered into programs of English

language training, because refugees who can speak English are capa

ble of earning at least three times what they otherwise would be

capable of earning. The IRC supports programs like the Organiza

tion for ChineseRefugee Industrial Development, whichhas techni

cal training facilities and supports training of the handicapped in

Hong Kong. We have a program mapped out for day nurseries, so

that Chinese mothers who must work will know their infants will be

taken care of. This kind of work , in addition to the medical assist

ance, I think, is of extreme importance. The International Rescue

Committee, for example, hopes to start soon a program of training

hotel workers, because within the next 2 years, it is estimated Hong

Kong's hotels will need an additional 7,000 employees and this is the

kind of technical trainingthat helps the economy of Hong Kong but,

most importantly, helpsindividuals to sustain themselves.

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Secondly, I think the program such as that announced by the

President is of unusual importance, and I would wholeheartedly

support it. To allow refugees to come to the United States, to realistic

allyadjust the immigration quotas, which is part of your bill, Senator,

I think is an urgent necessity. And in saying this, I would say

again that realistically, I think we are fooling ourselves if we think

that any kind of mass immigration or migration is going to sub

stantially reduce the problem that confronts HongKong. În saying

that, I include the offers that have been made by all the other nations

of the free world, including Taiwan.

Thirdly , I would say that a terribly important item that the Con

gress must consider is the trade policies concerning Hong Kong.

not possibly

Hong Kong survives on its export industries. It could Its

begin to raise the food necessary for its inhabitants. lifeblood

is exports. To the extent that the United States and other nations

adopt protective policies against Hong Kong industries, to that ex

tent do we decrease the possibilities within the colony itself for

providing the jobs and the daily suetnance that is desperately needed

for its refugees. There is no doubt about the reaction in Hong Kong

to the recent embargo on textiles from Hong Kong. The impact this

has had on the textile industry, which is the mostimportant industry

in Hong Kong, has already had substantial results in causing unem

ployment. I do not attempt to suggest a solution, but I do suggest

that in contemplating these problems, we remember they are not only

economic in their straight classical sense, but they do have human

overtones, especially inHong Kong where a refugee community is

affected .

Fourthly , I would like to say I was delighted to hear Bishop

Swanstrom talk in terms of capital improvement in Hong Kong.

For example, the building of new housing, the reclaiming of new

lands, the development of land in places like Lan Tau that has greater

land capacity than Hong Kong itself. These are lands that can be

developed but it takes capital investment to do it. Hong Kong should

be able to makean appreciable addition to that development.

International banks can help, and this is clearly an area where the

United States itself can be of direct assistance .

An international conference has been discussed to allow the free

world to meet and discuss the possibilities and problems of the

Hong Kong crisis. I believe that the crisis we saw in Hong Kong

in the early weeks of May is one that we will see again, because the

conditions that occasioned it will recur again. And I would hope very

much that in contemplation of that recurrence, the nations of the

free world would concentrate and focus their attention on possible

solutions. Because of the political problems that are involved , I do

not think that this can be done in a formal way. I think it has to

be done unofficially and it has to be done at a high level and it has to

be done with realism and frankness and the honesty that allies deserve

to give to one another.

I think that Hong Kong faces the basic problem of the Chinese

refugees and carries the basic responsibility for whatever solutions

will come about. Essentially, it is a problem whose solution, if any,

depends upon the guidance and goodwill of the British and Hong

Kong authorities.

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Because this is a problem that has evoked a response throughout

the world , and especially because it is a challenge that has evoked a

deep emotional response in America in its traditional sense of com

passion and humanitarianism , I think the refugee problem in Hong

Kong is one that should and must command our continuing attention.

But I think it has to be an attention that is within a framework of

responsibility. And that framework of responsibility is the frame

work of the Hong Kong authorities who bear the principal burden

of the daily battle . I hope very much that those who are charged

with the responsibility of settling these problems will try as far as

possible to seek out the opinions and the advice and the recommenda

tions of the Hong Kong government before moving into any major

areas of new recommendations.

Thank you , Senator.

Senator Hart. Thank you. I find it hard to imagine that your

written statement could be any more explicit and easy of chronological

absorption than your oral one from notes. It is excellent. So, too, the

specific suggestions with which you concluded that statement. It is

the kind of statement that we have not exchanged views on for a long

time, just as Bishop Swanstrom’s. I think our wisest course is simply

to let it speak for itself.

Mr. Johnson

Mr. JOHNSON . No questions.

Senator HART. Mr. De Haan ?

Mr. DE HAAN . No questions.

Senator HART. Mr. Nishimura ?

Mr. NISHIMURA. I observed that there is a great deal of American

concern on the Hong Kong refugee problem . Have you seen the activ

ities of the United Nations or the nations of the United Kingdom or

other members of the free world on this Hong Kong problem ?

Mr. VANDEN HEUVEL. There are authorities in the room who can

correct my impression , but I believe that the United Nations has

little or no program in relation to the Chinese refugees because they

are not under the mandate of the U.N. High Commissioner for

Refugees.

The United Kingdom, of course, carries on major relief programs

through its own system of voluntary agencies, such as the Oxford

Committee for Famine Relief. During the WorldRefugee Year, the

British response, of course, was more generous than any nation in

the world , and a good part of that was directed toward Hong Kong

and the refugees.

Butbasically, the everyday problems of the refugee community

have been the problems of the Hong Kong authorities and the volun

tary agencies who have worked there. The American voluntary agen

cies have struggled with their various constituencies to find the re

sources to carry on the endless programs that could be carried on if the

resources were available. There is no limit to what the voluntary

agencies can do, I think, in HongKong, if the resources were available

to them, because Hong Kong does represent a practically endless

humanitarian problem .

I think thatthe voluntary agencies deserve great commendation for

the work they have done, and I think the British authorities in Hong

Kong feel that very strongly, too. They have established excellent

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working relationships with the agencies and are deeply appreciative

ofthe assistance and the generous support they have received.

The agencies, I think , have had a difficult time for a decade in find

ing the kind of support that they needed, although there were a million

refugees in Hong Kong before May 1. It was very difficult to get the

American people to understand the dimensions of the problem , and

perhaps one of the greatest benefits that will come under the recent

experience is the fact of a real and realistic identification between the

American public and the Chinese refugee problem in Hong Kong.

I hope it will be an enduring identification .

Mr. NISHIMURA . One more question, Mr. Chairman .

You suggested that the rehabilitation and resettlement work can

be carried out within Hong Kong itself. Is there room or space to

absorb more refugees, or do you mean the present refugees in Hong

Kong ?

Mr. VANDEN HEUVEL. I mean among the present refugees in Hong

Kong and among the 50,000, who, as you may know, come in legally

every year. The crown colony admits at least 50,000 refugees each

year legally intoHong Kong.

I might add, Senator, that of the 60,000 or 70,000 who appear at the

border, probably 15,000 or 20.000 are in Hong Kong today through

various means and the Hong Kong authorities are not returning them

to China. They are allowing them to register and establish residence

in Hong Kong

All of us, I think, were deeply disturbed to see one of the few

boundaries of the free world that is left to us where people can come

from an Iron Curtain country to the free world closed up. We feel

very deeply about the wall in Berlin and its consequences, and it is a

traumatic shock to us to think that it was necessary for a member

nation of the free world to put up an obstacle of its own to prevent

people from coming across the boundaries of the free world. But, at

the same time, we do not have the direct responsibility for Hong Kong.

I am sure thatwe would no more appreciate the government ofHong

Kong setting the immigration standards for admission into the United

States of Chinese refugees than they might appreciate various recom

mendations that have been made publicly in the United States, and I

might say among those recommendations were my own.

I feel that my trip to Hong Kong has, among other things, given

me a very real appreciation for the daily problems that that govern

ment faces, and I think that there are many things that we can do as a

voluntary agency , as a government. But I think we have to do it in

a realistic context of guidance from the authorities who have the basic

responsibility.

Mr. NISHIMURA . Thank you.

Senator HART. One of the things we ought to repeat often here at

home is the point you just made, that, annually, 50,000 refugees are

admitted and absorbed into Hong Kong. We have been " standing

on our head” around here for a couple of years over the influx from

Cuba. So we ought to remember this point. We ought to remember

Hong Kong's capacity when we talk about reevaluating our own basic

immigration policy. When we tear our hair out over the fact that

increased immigration might cause economic disturbances and areas

of unemployment, we just ought to measure our performance against

that of Hong Kong.

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Mr. VANDEN HUEVEL. Yes.

Senator Hart. Before you leave, Miss Chu, when did your family

come to this country !

Miss CHU . My two elder sisters came in 1949. Then my parents

and my younger sister --my mother and my younger sister in 1956.

Senator HART. What does your family do, if I may ask ; your

father ?

Miss Chu. Well, my father is retired and my elder sister is working

as a writer at NBC onthe “ Today " show. Mysecond sister is working

at Time-Life. My third sister is studying in the University of Cali

fornia, biochemistry; and my younger sister in Columbia University,

Far Eastern courses .

Senator Hart. Well , again, I wish we were going into the living

rooms of every home in America.

Miss CHU . Thank you .

Senator HART.I would like to find anybody that would wrestle with

the proposition that this American society is not richer because you

and your sisters are here. I take it from that sequence that you

described beginning in 1949 , that is took quite a while for that to

happen.

Miss CHU. Yes.

Senator HART. Absent a very wise and prompt response from the

Attorney General and the President, I take it you would not yet be

here .

Miss CHU . No.

Mr. VANDEN HUEVEL. Thank you very much .

Senator Hart. Unfortunately, I must suggest a recess. I know

how difficult it is for those remaining.

If for some reason any of the remaining witnesses find it simply

impossible to return, as I shall suggest, at 2 o'clock, there are two

alternatives. One, the less satisfactory from our standpoint and un

doubtedly from yours, would be to file a written statement to be

made a part of the record. The other would be to plan to come

tomorrow. I have not made this announcement for the record today

until this point, but the committee will resume hearings at 11 o'clock

tomorrow morning, at which timethe president ofthe ChineseRefugee

Relief Organization, Mrs. Claire Chennault, will testify. You can

indicate to Mr. Johnson your preference and I shall suggest a recess

until 2 o'clock.

(Whereupon, at 12:40 p.m., the subcommittee recessed, to resume

at 2 p.m. , of the same day .)

AFTERNOON SESSION

Senator Fong (presiding ). Senator Hart, chairman of the subcom

mittee, will be unavoidably detained. I will open the meeting and

we willnow continue with our hearing .

I will call for our first witness, Mrs. Pettiss.

STATEMENT OF MRS. SUSAN PETTISS, ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR,

INTERNATIONAL SOCIAL SERVICE, NEW YORK , N.Y.

Senator Fong. Mrs. Pettiss, I have read your whole testimony, be

cause I thought you had given it this morning while I was not here.

Mrs. PETTISS. Thank you .

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Senator Fong, on behalf of the American Branch of the Interna

tional Social Service, I should like to express our appreciation for the

invitation to appear before your subcommittee.

Problems of refugees and migration were the central reason for the

establishment of International Social Service. During the past 40

years an individualized approach has been provided to uprooted peo

ples by our agency which is nonsectarian in character and operates

through its network ofoffices in 20 countries and qualified correspond

ents in most other countries around the world . Experience has proven

the validity of the social casework method of assisting refugees, as

the eventual solution to their problems must inevitably be on a one-by

one basis.

We were receptive therefore, in 1958 when the Hong Kong govern

ment asked International Social Service to assist in finding a secure

future for a number of orphans abandoned or stranded in their al

ready overcrowded orphanages. With partial support of the Far

East refugee program (FERP ) of the U.S. State Department, ISS

Hong Kong has ,since that time, been able to show dramatic and

heart -warming results with the problems of these " littlest refugees. "

Over a thousand children in Hong Kong have received ISS help ,

some assisted to remain with a mother or relative under bettered con

ditions, others to go to selected adoptive homes in 13 countries—

chiefly Great Britain and the United States. Forty -three percent of

these children were known to be refugees or children of refugees.

Thirty -three percent were abandoned, and therefore with no records

to show whether they were refugees. Since in the Chinese culture,

however, children are loved and highly prized , one can only think that

abandonment was a last resort ofa desperate parent or family over

whelmed by the conditions of the refugee crowded economy and

insecure future.

Specialnonquota orphan immigration legislation has made it pos

sible for ISS to bring over 600 ofthese children to the United States

to waiting adoptive parents who have welcomed them as a member of

their family.

This very personal and intimate gesture of generosity has created

an image of the United States which, ina way, offsets that usually

created by the U.S. immigration restrictions imposed on orientals.

The families assure us, however, that they are the benefactors, not

the children, because of the love and joy they receive from them .

Through this intercountry adoption plan, permanent solutions are

found for children who would have been a costly burden on the Hong

Kong Government as they would have required care in institutions

until they grew up. The adoptive parents bear the cost of transporta

tion and documentation, so that the expense to the U.S. Government

is at a minimum. The service of the American branch of ISS has,

up to now, been provided without cost to families, or to either the

Hong Kong or the U.S. Government.

Children are a precious commodity and although the conditions

creating the need for expeditious movement of these Hong Kong

children are overwhelming, it is to the credit of the Hong Kong Min

istry of Welfare and the U.S. State and local adoption agencies that

this movement into individual American homes is considered withno

less skill and care than that which would be given to American chil

dren placed in adoptive homes.

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The results giveproof that this planning pays off. In less than

1 percent of the ISS adoptive plans has there been the necessity to

alter the original placement arrangement, and in no caseis thereany

indication that the child should be returned to Hong Kong. The

intercountry movement has been accomplished within the framework

of the excellent Hong Kong child welfare and adoption laws, and

according to the child placement and adoption laws of the 50 Śtates

of the United States.

We confess that we had some questions at the beginning of this

program as to whether the oriental children going into Caucasian

American families would encounter discrimination in their new com

munities, how would they be accepted in their American schools, and

what would it be like for them when they reached adolescence and

marriageable ages.

In 1959 we called in a group of eminent scientists to consult with

us — an anthropologist, a psychiatrist, a geneticist, a psychologist, and

a sociologist. We were reassured by their expert advice .

It was only after we had .a meeting of a group of adoptive parents

last year, however, that we were assured that our fears were un

grounded. They had adopted oriental children of all ages, and some

had been with them for over 5 years. Their experience, and that

which we have reported to us daily from all over the country, con

firms our faith in the response of American families and commu

nities to children eventhough they may be visually different.

Over half of the children from Hong Kong have been adopted by

Caucasian families. The interest inspired by Church World Service

through their affiliated Protestant churches has been a positive force

in stimulating families to want these children and to welcome the

children into their new hometowns.

But this movement of Hong Kong children into adoptive homes in

the various countries is not the only benefit of the ISS Hong Kong

operation. Like all ISS offices, it is staffed by trained social workers,

native to the country, and enjoys a close relationship with the gov

ernmental and voluntary welfare agencies. Because of this indige

nous compatibility, it has been in a more strategic position to have its

service accepted as a demonstration which will undoubtedly have wide

effect on general child welfare services to children in the crown colony.

As the only professional voluntary casework agency, ISS is frequently

called uponto consult with orphanages, schools of social work, and

other voluntary agencies . Recently one of the orphanages was so

impressed with the way ISS assembled facts about a child's back

ground and medical history that they asked for the loan of a case

worker to set up the whole registration and recordkeeping system for

the institution. Up until that time they did not even have a proper

file cabinet and children were taken in with the only record of their

admission and background in the memory of the person receiving

them . Now the orphanage has taken a social worker on their staff.

While planning to continue intercountry adoptions, ISS Hong

Kong is moving to fulfill other service needs in this refugee-ridden

city .

Hong Kong's problem is people. The Hong Kong Governmentis

doing a stupendous job in trying to provide basic housing, jobs, medi

cal attention, schools, et cetera. People need attention to their per

sonal problems and situations, though, and there are not enough

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trained social workers to give it. ISS is being called upon more and

more to support efforts of the Hong Kong Government to bolster their

reservoir of trained personnel to meet this overwhelming need . Some

of the ISS staff teach in schools of social work, the agency serves as a

laboratory for practical experience for social work students, and ISS

caseworkers are called upon for leading seminars on casework coun

seling for those individuals working directly with refugees on retrain:

ing or resettlement plans.

We were asked by your subcommittee, Mr. Chairman , to give our

appraisal of present relief and assistance programs in Hong Kong.

I have just returned from Hong Kong and after only a few days there

would not presume to do more than comment on my impressions which

to some extent have been confirmed by the experience of our agency.

The Hong Kong Government has beenmost effective in establishing

and maintaining law and order in a chaotic situation , so much so

that one mightsuperficially get the impression only of a bustling,

thriving city. I was most favorablyimpressed with the U.S. Govern

ment efforts to support the Hong Kong Government in coping with

the refugee-swollen population, and the sound way in which the

FERP, under the leadership of Mr. Robert Aylward and Mr. Herman

Washington, are directing the expenditures of funds, coordinating

and advising with the American voluntary agencies operating there,

and generally recognizing and meeting the human needs.

It did seem to me that these voluntary efforts needed to be better

coordinated to eliminate duplication. Also, guidance seemed called

for to direct more effectively good intentions into sound programs.

For instance, I learned from staff ofthe Hong Kong Ministry of Wel

fare that the Ministry was finally forced to take a firm position not

to permit any building of more children's institutions. Certain

schemes designed to assist institutions based on contributions to in

dividual children might be reevaluated to be sure the children are not

then bound to permanent institution care. I learned that a new build

ing for blind infants had recently been completed, beautifully

equipped, and it was only when no babies were brought for admission

that it was determined that what was really needed was trained ther

apists to go out to homes to help mothers and families determined to

keep their babies with them .

In order to accomplish best results in the present situation it seemed

to me that what is needed is more skilled staff to plan for the move

ment of children out of institutions, more qualified staff in the existing

institutions to provide the children with adequate care, professional

leadership to help bring recognition of the fact that storing children

in institutions and turning them out at the age of 18 is not the best

preparation for adulthood and citizenship.

Repeatedly examples came to my attention strongly pointing up

the need for more trained personnel at all levels of social welfare.

This need does exist all the way from the top level of social surveys,

social planning, and social welfare administration to the practical

level of combating juvenile delinquency, caring for children'in insti

tutions, day care of children of working mothers, and casework serv

ices in hospitals, housing projects, refugee reception centers, vocational

training for the handicapped, mental institutions, et cetera .

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Money spent to provide better staff and expand Hong Kong schools

of social work, bolster the current program to train those already

working in social welfare jobs, offer stipends and scholarships to

social work students, strengthen operating agencies with standards

sufficiently high to give internship experience to those in training,

would be a very wise investment whichwill pay off for years to come

in dividends inhuman happiness and productivity.

In closing, Mr. Chairman, I would ſike to comment that if a bill

similar to S. 3043, which Senator Hart introduced in the Senate, had

been law, the United States would have been in a much better posi

tion to give tangible expression of our sympathy for the heartbreak

ing plight of the refugees in Hong Kong by absorbing a number into

the United States.

Undoubtedly, this would have had a great impact, not only in terms

of the individuals resettled, but by ourexampleother countries would

have been encouraged to do likewise. Senator Hart's bill is a step

forward in the whole field of immigration as a constructive revision

of the currently rigid formula structure of national origin quotas and

an expression of a humanitarian desire to assist refugee groups more

adequately. We earnestly hope, also, that the bill, H.R. 10079, intro

duced into the House of Representatives by Congressman Francis

Walter and passed by that House, will soon be assigned to a com

mittee in theSenate for their consideration and prompt action. The

recommended provisions in this bill for appropriations for U.S. par

ticipation in ICEM , UNHCR , and USEP - covering FERP - pro

grams is more important than ever in view of the recent flood of ref

ugees from Communist China.

I might add that International Social Service is prepared to assist

our Government by immediately bringing into this country for adop

tion 200 orphaned or needy children, assuming that an agreement

can be reached with the Hong Kong Governmentto expedite the plan.

In cooperation with the established adoption agencies of our States

and communities, ISS is ready to move swiftly. Most of these adop

tion agencies are already burdened with the problem of finding homes

for the Cuban unaccompanied children , but we believe they can be

counted upon to rise to this Hong Kong emergency.

May I thank you, Mr. Chairman , for this opportunity, and may I

Social Service will be glad to make our

advise you that Internationalcommittee

experience available to your in any way in which you will

find useful .

Senator Fong. Mrs. Pettiss, concerning the International Social

Service - how many nations are in this social service group ?

Mrs. PETTISS. At the present time, we have offices or branches in

20 different countries. It is an international agency. Our headquar

ters is in Geneva, Switzerland.

Senator Fong. Do you have any members who are now working

in Hong Kong who areU.S. citizens?

Mrs. PETTISS. No; they are all Chinese, with the exception of the

director, who is an American.

Senator Fong. And in the work that has been done by the Inter

national Social Service in getting these orphans to be adopted by

families, most of them have been adopted by American families ; is

that true ?

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Mrs. PETTISS. A number have gone to Great Britain. Some few

have gone to Canada. More will be going to Canada and small num

bers have gone to other countries. The largest numbers have come to

the UnitedStates.

Senator Fong. Are you familiar with the laws of these other coun

tries relative to allowing these orphans to be adopted by their people?

Mrs. PETTISS. Somewhat familiar. Particularly, I am familiar with

the British law.

Senator Fong. Does thatlaw allow unlimited adoption ?

Mrs. PETTISS. The British law does. The Canadian law and some

other countries are extremely restricted . The Australian law, for in

stance, does not allow them to come into Australia to be adopted by

their people.

Senator Fong. Is the International Social Service trying to liberal

ize the laws in those countries ?

Mrs. PETTISS. The International Social Service in these countries

where they have branches, I think, has consistently taken the stand

that the American branchof the social service has, and that is that

these children should be allowed to go to whatever country in which

homes are offered to them .

Senator Fong. Does International Social Service work in coordina

tion with the local branch of social service; for instance, in Hawaii?

Mrs. PETTISS. That is true. We work very closely with the child

welfare division of the Hawaii State Department of Public Welfare.

Senator Fong. Before the child is allowed to come, do the social serv

ice and welfare organization of the State make a careful study of the

family ?

Mrs. PETTISS. This is true, and after the child comes, the same agency

will remain in the picture to supervise and stand by until such time

as the child's legal adoption is completed, which in many States is at

least a year after the child arrives.

Senator Fong. And all these adoptions that have taken place in

the United States, has anyone been sent back ?

Mrs. PETTISS. None have been sent back, sir.

Senator Fong. Has it been a very beneficial thing ?

Mrs. PETTISS. We feel it has been a very successful program .

Senator Fong. And all the people you have contacted, the Interna

tional Social Service has contacted , their expression has been a happy

one ?

Mrs. Petriss. I would say that is an understatement. They would

say they are the recipient in the program , as they have been able to

get from these children a great deal of joy and happiness.

Senator Fong. I was interested in your statement that over one

half of these children were adopted by Caucasian parents. I had the

impression that most of them were adopted by Oriental parents.

Mrs. Pettiss. The children that webring in, Senator, are ordinarily

in two categories. About a third of the children come to relatives.

These are children that have been orphaned by the death of their par

ents, or one parent. They come to grandparents, uncles and aunts,

or perhaps even a brother or sister. Of course, these would be Chi

nese families. Of the other two -thirds, half have gone to Chinese

families and the others to Caucasian families.

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Senator Fong. Is there not a restriction in the orphanage law which

states that before a child is eligible for adoption, the child must be a

child of a refugee or must have lost a parent !

Mrs. PETTISS. I believe the definition of a child that is eligible for

the nonquota visa is that the child is orphaned either by loss of both

parents or the loss of one parent and the other parent is unable to take

care of him and has irrevocably released the child for adoption.

Senator Fong. Regardless of who the parents were ?

Mrs. PETTISS. Yes .

Senator Fong. Thank you very much, Mrs. Pettiss, for a very fine

statement.

Any questions, Mr. Johnson ?

Mr. Johnson . No.

Mr. DE HAAN . No.

Senator Fong . Thank you.

Mr. Snyder of the American Friends Service Committee, we would

like to have you come forward to give your testimony.

STATEMENTS OF WILLIAM W. CHANNEL AND EDWARD F. SNYDER

ON BEHALF OF AMERICAN FRIENDS SERVICE COMMITTEE AND

FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL LEGISLATION

Mr. SNYDER. Mr. Chairman , I am Edward Snyder and this is Wil

liam Channel. William Channel is going to lead off in the testimony

and I will add other points.

Senator FONG. Proceed .

Mr. CHANNEL. Thank you. I have some descriptions of the Ameri

can Friends Service Committee program in Hong Kong which I will

leave here for the committee.

Senator Fong. We will incorporate that as part of your testimony.

Mr. CHANNEL. Thank you.

( The document referred to is as follows :)

AMERICAN FRIENDS SERVICE COMMITTEE REFUGEE PROGRAM IN HONG KONG

REPORT No. 3

More than 1,500,000 refugees have come into Hong Kong since the Com

munist takeover of China in 1949. It is the world's most densely populated city,

increasing in numbers every year. The problems of housing, feeding, clothing,

and caring for the needs of these people are overwhelming ones. In an attempt

to alleviate some of these hardships and to assist the refugees in obtaining jobs

and useful leisure time occupations, the American Friends Service Committee

has been working in Li Cheng Uk, one of nine large resettlement estates.

AFSC community service in Hong Kong includes a cooperative day nursery,

mothers' clubs, fathers' clubs, youth activities, and work with villagers. The

project center is located in the third largest of the multistoried resettlement

buildings erected by the government. Over 48,000 people live on a 14-acre site.

Some 16,000 are children under the age of 10. Thousands of other refugees

still have to live in shacks on hillsides, or on sidewalks, rooftops, and boats.

The AFSC program has been centered in the city, but opportunities for helping

the refugees have recently been extended to fishing villages on the mainland

portion of Hong Kong.

The AFSC has organized projects in two villages among refugee fishermen .

At Tsung Hau village there was great need for an all -weather path so that

supplies could be brought in during the rainy season . AFSC staff helped the

villagers meet this problem. Responding to the aroused refugee initiative, the

government provided cement, stone, and sand ; villagers did the work - meticu

lously organized with a local cement man supervising mixing and laying.

Tools were borrowed from a local work camp organization. Extra food was

64 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

provided for workers. With the path completed , villagers have now improved

their own houses with steps and paths, buying a few cents worth of cement and

using river said.

The AFSC also provides training in sewing and literacy. Villagers enjoy get

ting together for a constructive purpose in the community center.

The room pictured here is 10 by 12 feet. It is typical of the rooms in the

resettlement block where the AFSC is working. This is the living space for five *

adults. Children under 10 count as half an adult. If families are small, one

room is divided into two sections and two families live in the space with a com

mon door and a thin partition separating them .

Residents show much ingenuity in making a home of this cubicle, dividing off

a sleeping and living area, or putting in a half-balcony for sleeping . Twenty or

more families share communal toilet and laundry facilities with one or two

water taps for the entire floor.

The two boys in the picture, aged 16 and 19, sew all day - assembling previously

cut short pants. They get 25 cents per dozen for completed articles, and can

average 50 cents a day. Their mother takes care of a neighbor's baby, which

allows the neighbor to work in a factory and earn a few more dollars.

These youths are not only learning a useful occupation, but are contributing

to the income of their family. AFSC classes in tailoring enabled the boys to get

work.

In addition to these training and recreational programs, the AFSC has estab

lished a library. This is available for all ages and is much in demand. Its

6,000 volumes are used daily by about 500 children and adults.

“The youth in Hong Kong are terribly confused ," write an AFSC worker.

"In place of emptiness and hopelessness the AFSC staff attempts to put some

thing constructive - job opportunities, and recreational facilities.”

The AFSC-trained Chinese staff teach the refugee children in a cooperative

nursery school set up as part of the service committee project. In this picture

children are learning how to tell time. Refugee mothers share in planning and

running the school, thus feeling a sense of belonging and of community. Without

this activity large numbers of small children would be left to sit in their cubicles

or huts, or to play in the streets.

In all these programs - fathers' clubs, youth work, mothers' clubs, village de

velopment, cooperative day nursery, counseling, teaching — the aim is to help

refugees to help themselves, and to gain a purpose in life. This is a beginning

toward the solution of an enormous problem which will have to be met for a

long time to come.

Mr. CHANNEL. I would like to say at the beginning that I am one

of those Caucasian parents — referred to by the previous witness — who

has adopted a Chinese child in Hong Kong and it is certainly one of the

happiestthings that has everhappened to us.

I am William W. Channel, of Philadelphia, director of the oversea

refugee program of the American Friends Service Committee. I have

recently returned from Hong Kong where I have served for 242

years as director ofour Hong Kong refugee program . My companion

is Edward F. Snyder, executive secretary of the Friends Committee

on National Legislation. Our two committees do not claim to speak

for all Friends, since Friends cherish the right to their individual

opinions. Nevertheless, Friends in general have aa long and continuing

record of concern for the hungry and dispossessed.

I will speak to the refugee problem in Hong Kong. Edward Snyder

will speak to the more general problem of hunger on the mainland of

China .

The first page of my testimony and about halfthe second page has

been already said in one way oranother by previous witnesses. So I

would like to spare the committee hearing them again by skipping

down to my recommendations on themiddle ofpage 2.

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 65

Senator Fong. That will be incorporated as part of your testimony.

( The matter referred to is as follows :)

The influx of refugees from China into Hong Kong over the past 10 years has

resulted in one of the most dramatic refugee problems in the world today. The

responsibility of caring for and housing these refugees has been borne largely by

the Hong Kong Government, though there has been substantial help from the

United States Government as well as many private agencies.

The crown colony government has responded to the emergency in many ways.

Health and welfare programs have been developed and expanded . Industry has

been encouraged to the extent that, whereas before the war entrepôt trade made

up 70 percent of the colony's income and local industry 30 percent ; the situation

is now exactly reversed with local industry providing 70 percent of the colony's

income. Perhaps the most dramatic development has been in public housing. In

the past 5 years, over 400,000 squatters have been rehoused in multistoried re

settlement estates. Another 100,000 people of higher incomes have been re

housed in middle -income housing units.

Private welfare agencies have helped bring relief to Hong Kong by providing

schools, vocational training programs, community services, as well as vast feeding

programs. These feeding programs have been made possible through contribu

tions of millions of pounds of U.S. surplus commodities. In addition to providing

approximately $5 million worth of food each year, the U.S. Government, through

its Far Eastern refugee program , allots $1 million annually in cash assistance,

much of which goes to finance special projects proposed by various private

agencies.

With the various government and private agency relief programs in Hong

This is largely true. With

Kong, it has been said that no one need starve.

present numbers and present programs continuing, no one need be hungry.

But these people have no future.

They are ambitious and industrious. One might say they share the American

dream of making life better for themselves and their children. But unlike us,

their chance of fulfillment of this dream is slight.

As Hong Kong has continued to bsorb vast numbers of refugees over the

years, the question has frequently been asked , “ How long can Hong Kong con

tinue to absorb such numbers of people ? How long can they be fed ? How long

can industry continue to expand and provide jobs for this rapidly expanding

population ?" Hong Kong has responded with resignation , and a faith that

somehow they would manage, that in any case they had no choice but to continue

to accept people as they came.

The deluge of refugees that began to cross the border in May of this year

changed the picture. It was obvious that Hong Kong could not absorb the num

bers that were coming and continue to provide jobs and food for its citizens.

The government of Hong Kong was suddenly forced to turn people back.

For this reversal of policy Hong Kong was criticized in many circles. Yet it

was not Hong Kong that was taken by surprise. It was the entire Western

World, including the United States. We were not ready. Hong Kong had been

receiving refugees in vast numbers for 10 years and receiving only token help

from outside. Because this refugee problem had been in existence for 10 years,

we in the West accepted it as a normal state of affairs. We learned to live with

it. We did not demonstrate a readiness to devote major attention to this prob

lem . And we were not ready when the situation suddenly became dramatic and

critical.

China has now spared the West continuing embarrassment. The bamboo cur

tain has again closed . For how long we do not know. But now is the time for

us to give serious thought and study to a major constructive program for

Chinese refugees and to provide leadership for other nations in the West. This

committee is to be commended for its initiative in this direction .

Mr. CHANNEL . While I am not prepared to suggest a major solu

tion to this problem , I feel there are certain things we could be doing,

in addition to the very commendable action by President Kennedy in

permitting several thousand Chinese refugees in Hong Kong to enter

the United States. Among such actions might be these :

1. Take greater numbers of Chinese immigrants and refugees as

proposed in the bill being sponsored by Senator Hart with the co

66 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

sponsorship of other Senators. Raising the quota on Chinese immi

grants from 105 to more than 5,000 and permitting the admission of

up to 50,000 refugees a year — including Chinese refugees encourage

a more liberal policy on the part of other nations. It would increase

the hope of many who nowfind Hong Kong a dead end. Putting

the quota more in line with that of other nations would remove the

stigma of the Chinese as an " excluded” group. It would be public

recognition that the Chinese make good American citizens.

2. The United States should also take its fair share of the aged and

infirm Chinese .

3. We should study ways and means to encourage Hong Kong

industry to expand and diversify in order to provide more jobs for

a people who are anxious and willing to work. I am no expert in

this field, but I feel we should take advantage of the Chinese desire

to work and make a better life for themselves. The Chinese are a

courageous and industrious people and will make their way if given

a chance.

4. We must remember that Hong Kong must manufacture and sell

in order to provide employment for thousandsof these refugees. How

ever, in an overpopulated area suchas Hong Kong, labor standards

are naturally far below our own. The Hong Kong Government is

vigorously pursuing the problem of labor standards and is making

steady progress. We might further encourage and support these

efforts by suggesting a " certificate of good labor practices ” for fac

tories that comply, giving import priority to such factories. Such

a step would put Hong Kong products on a fairer competitive level

with our own and would be far more constructive than blanket re

strictions on imports.

5. The United States might also explore the possibility of joining

with the Hong Kong Government in constructing a demonstration

desalination plant in Hong Kong. This suggestion is made, not be

cause we have any expert knowledge about desalination, but because

we are aware of the many problems Hong Kong faces because of

the water shortage. An increased water supply might allow Hong

Kong to accommodate more people, or accommodate present numbers

better, and expand industrial production.

We are also aware of the fact that last year Congress gave the Sec

retary of the Interior authority to initiate cooperative desalination

programs with other nations under Public Law 87–295. The possi

bility for developing conversionplants outside theUnited States was

discussed at length by Under Secretary of the Interior, James K.

Carr, in a speechon March 28, 1962.

In addition to this I would like to describe briefly the water situa

tion in Hong Kong as I have known it over the past few years.

Outside of the rainy months, toward the end of the year, for ex

ample, when we got up in the morning, we knew thatthere would be

4 hours of water a day. We had to do all of our washing and clean

ing during those 4 hours between 6 and 10 o'clock in the morning.

Before 10 o'clock when the water went off, we had to fill our bathtub

in order to have water for use during the day for the flushing of

toilets and for use in cooking and drinking.

Now, we had a bathtub. More thana million people in HongKong

do not have a bathtub. Almost a million of these probably do not

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 67

have a water tap in the house where they live, and they must take

pails and stand in line at a public water tap on the street and hope

that they will reach this water tap in time to collect a pail of water

before the water goes off.

Manytimes there is near panic as the hour for the water cutoff comes

near and many people in this line have no water. Hong Kong uses

approximately 40 to 50 million gallons of water a day. All of this

water is rainwater that is collected during the rainy season and run off

into reservoirs. There is no appreciable water supply from wells. A

yearago, a reservoir was built and made available to HongKong by

the Chinese Communist government just over the border. This aided

the water situation considerably .

Now, several desalination plants have been experimentally devel

oped in the United States. I have received information this morning

that the United States could build a 50 -million -gallon -a -day conversion

plant in Hong Kong in 18 months to 2 years. Westinghousehas built

a plant at San Diego and has said they are prepared to build plants

of up to 150 million gallons a day capacity. The cost estimates on

constructing a 50 -million -gallon plant — that is, to produce 50 million

gallons a day, would be approximately $40 million.

Now, Hong Kong is preparing to double its water capacity by

damming off bays of the sea and pumping out the salt water and using

these then to collect fresh water. However, these are long -term proj

ects and may take 8 to 10 years to complete. If we could provide a

plant to convert sea water to usable water in a period of 18 months to

2 years, it seems to me that this would be a tremendous contribution to

helping solve Hong Kong's water shortage.

I will now let Mr. Snyder talk to youabout food for China.

Mr. SNYDER. Mr. Chairman, several times during the hearing today,

the question has been raised about feeding the people on mainland

China, potential refugees rather than actual refugees, and I think that

most people regard this as an integral part of the whole question of

the refugees in Hong Kong. It is important for the United States to

make strenuous efforts to help ease the plight of the Chinese refugees

in Hong Kong through resettlement in the United States, through

revision of the immigration law, through expanding the contribution

of U.S. surplus food to refugees in Hong Kong, and through explor

ing the possibility of assisting in a water desalination program .

But it is increasingly apparent that with 600 to 700 million people

in mainland China - roughly one-quarter of the people on the earth

no solution is adequate which deals only with the relatively small num

ber of refugees who can make their way to Hong Kong or Macao.

ThePresident pointed this up in his May 23 press conference when

he said that any efforts at refugee relief and resettlement are swamped

and dwarfed by " the basic problem , which is that of a tremendous

country **** * where food supplies are inadequate.”

Up to this point China has been trying to stave off hunger by

importing millions of tons of grain from Canada, Australia, and

France. Now , however, there is a question as to whether these sup

pliers will be able to meet China's future demand. There is also a

question of whether China has the foreign exchange to continue such

massive oversea purchases.

68 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

The United States, on the other hand, is blessed with an abundance

of food. As of the end of March , the Commodity Credit Corporation

had in storage 1.1 billion bushels of wheat, 981 million bushels of corn ,

and 32 million bushels of barley .

We believe our Government should begin active exploration to find

ways to help feed those in mainland China who are hungry. We

should not wait to be asked . Pride and self-respect make it difficult

for the Communist Chinese to ask the United States for assistance .

China's Foreign Minister has already proclaimed that Peking “would

never stoop to beg for food from the United States."

Brotherly love knows no national boundaries. As a nation we are

focusing our attention and material assistance on the Chinese refu .

gees who have somehow arrived in Hong Kong. Our hearts have also

been touched by the tragic faces of those who sought to reach Hong

Kong but were truned back . Too few have remembered the hungry

who never left home. Yet each of these persons should be the object

of our concern . As hunger knows no boundaries, so a desire to help

our fellow men should not be restricted by barbed wire borders or cur

tains, whether iron or bamboo , or restricted to China, or Africa, or 1

India.

A humanitarian concern for the hungry regardless of political or

ideological views has been one of the brightest chapters in American

history. After the First World War, hungry people were fed in

Germany, Austria, and Russia . After the Second World War, the

same was done in Germany, Japan, and Italy. Surplus foodswere also

given to the needy people in the Communist countries of East Ger

many, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and Yugoslavia , after the disas

trous Danube flood of the midfifties. This last program was initi

ated under title II of Public Law 480 ; the food was distributed by 1

local Red Cross societies, acting under the supervision of the League

of Red Cross Societies.

The present situation in China provides this generation of Ameri

cans the opportunity to reaffirm our Nation's traditional concern for

the hungry .

Under our present policy, U.S. Government regulations prohibit 1

the sale of all goods to mainland China including food. Recently a

Seattle trading company applied for a license to sell food to China,

but its application was denied on the grounds there was no evidence

it was acting on behalf of the Communist Chinese Government.

Gifts of food or money to buy food by private U.S. citizens to Chi

nese in mainland China are prohibited by administrative regulations

issued under the Export Control Act and the Trading With the Enemy

Act.

The U.S. Government could give food to the Chinese people under

title II of Public Law 480, which permits donations to friendly

but needy populations without regard to the friendliness of their

Government.'

At his recent news conference on May 23, President Kennedy ex

pressed the latest view of his administration :

Well, there has been no indication of any expression of interest or desire by TH

the Chinest Communists to receive any food from us as I have said from the

beginning, and we would certainly have to have some idea as to whether the

food was needed and under what conditions it might be distributed . Up to the

present, we have no such indications.

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 69

RECOMMENDATIONS

We recognize this is a very complex subject with many ramifications.

Nevertheless, we believe the present situation gives the United States

anespecially creative opportunity to act constructively in helping to

knit together a dividedworld . We hope our Government will -

1. Lift the prohibitions on selling food to China.

2. Take the initiative in exploring, in quiet ways at Warsaw and

elsewhere, Chinese Government interest in a sale or gift or loan

of food .

3. Initiate discussions inside and outside the Government re

garding the possibility of using international channels, such as

the League of Red Cross Societies which includes the mainland

Chinese Red Cross, to distribute food in China.

4. Remove restrictions on gifts by private American citizens to

designated persons in China. It is intolerable that people who

attempt to send a food parcel to hungry people in China are sub

ject to prosecution under the Trading With the Enemy Act and the

Export Control Act .

America's abundance in a hungry world lays a heavy burden on

our national conscience. We have done much to discharge that burden

through the surplus disposal program under Public Law 480 and the

more recent food - for -peace program, which has provided generous

help in many parts of the world , especially India, Africa, and South

America.

The sharing of our agricultural abundance should now be extended

to the people of mainland China. To withhold help from one- quarter

of the world's people who are in need when our agricultural abundance

is at record heights, would be a moral disaster for our Nation.

To act affirmatively and constructively by offering to sell or give

food would be in accord with our own national traditions and with

the highest teachings of our Judeo -Christian heritage that we should

share food with thehungry even if they are called our enemies.

A magnanimous act at this crucial hour in history might also enable

our Nation to help create an atmosphere in which the traditional

friendship of the American and Chinese people can be reestablished

and the chances for world peace enhanced.

We appeal to this subcommittee to continue its search for effective

methods to assist Chinese refugees in Hong Kong and to support and

encourage efforts to find ways to use U.S. surplus food to feed the

hungry in China.

I have with me, Mr. Chairman, a number of editorials and state

ments, commenting on this question. They include statements favor

ing U.S. food for mainland China by the New York Times. The

Washington Post, Life Magazine of January 27, 1961, of Rabbi Mau

rice M. Eisendrath , president of the Union of American Hebrew Con

gregations; Herschel Newsom of the National Grange ; Charles Schu

man of the Farm Bureau ; George Meany of the AFL -CIO , and

private groups of citizens such as the one in Kansas, who have collected

eight_thousand signatures on a petition to President Kennedy, the

New England Committee for Famine Relief; a. group of San Francisco

clergymen who sent an appeal to the President; the Gallup poll of

March 19, 1961, which showed at that time that 52 percent of the

people questioned favored offering food to China ; 37 percent opposed ;

70 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

and 11 percent had no opinion. This may be of interest to your sub

committee, and with your permission, I will submit it for the record 1

for whatever use you may wish to make of it. .

Senator Fong . It may be submitted and it will be incorporated as

part of the record .

(The documents referred to are as follows :)

[ From the New York Times, Mar. 31, 1962 )

U.S. FOOD FOR MAINLAND CHINESE ?

1

Keeping food from hungry people is not in the American tradition, but in view

of the circumstances the administration was right to refuse an export license

1

to an American firm seeking to clear the way for a possible sale of American 1

grain to Communist China. No approach from Peiping had been made. The 3

scheme was simply one in which a Hong Kong middleman was trying to arrange

a hypothetical sale which might not have been concluded even if an American

license had been granted .

The Government has not rejected in principle the possibility of American food

being sent to the underfed people of mainland China. Indeed, American food

should be made available by free donation or by sale — to succor the Chinese

people if the arrangements could be carried out in such a way that the Peiping

government would be prevented from using the grain as an anti -American propa

ganda weapon. The U.S. Government, however, is understandably cautions about

authorizing food for the Chinese that would only facilitate Communist

misrepresentation .

The Peiping regime last year let it be known that it did not want American

food, even if given on a private basis with a minimum of publicity . There has

been no official indication from the Chinese Communists that this attitude has

changed. If there is a change, the furnishing of American food for the China

mainland becomes a possibility that ought to receive favorable consideration in

Washington.

[ From Life, Jan. 27 , 1961 )

STARVATION IN CHINA

Unless they get massive help, millions of Chinese people may starve before

spring. They will starve for two reasons : ( 1 ) what their Communist masters

call " natural adversities without parallel in the past 100 years ” ; drought, flood ,

hail, frost, pests ; ( 2 ) the failure of the Communist " commune” system of agri.

culture which broke up families and impressed millions into barracks.

Perhaps most of the tragedy should be blamed upon this stupid and inhumane

system . But that is irrelevant to the stark fact of starvation. By grim paradox,

it flashes on the conscience of mankind at a time when the United States glut of

food is a political and economic embarrassment.

Because of this same paradox , Life more than 6 years ago ( Life, Aug. 23,

1954 ) , at a time of terrible floods, urged that the United States devote some of its

surplus food to the helpless Chinese people. The need now is at least as great as

then. We urge anew that ways be found to move these stores into the emaciated

hands of the men , women, and children who otherwise will die. Admittedly it

will be difficult to guarantee fair distribution , to prevent diversion of the food to

military uses, to graft, or to Communist reexport for trade. But Americans who

managed to save millions of Russian lives amid the Bolshevik revolution, who

sheltered the victims of Japan's 1923 earthquake, who fed the victims of World

War II , such Americans, given the will, can find the way to do this job. Adlai

Stevenson could well make this the subject of his first speech in the U.N.

[ From the Washington Post , May 19 , 1962 ]

STARVING . CHINESE

Whatever grievance the United States justly may have against the Communist

government of China, it has not grievance whatever against the unfortunate peo

ple who are crowding the barricades of Hong Kong as refugees from a starving

land.

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Wang Ping-nan , the Communist Chinese Ambassador at Warsaw , at the close

of a talk with U.S. Ambassador John Cabot, said “ the Chinese people always

have been good friends of the American people.” One suspects that they re

main so, despite years of violent hate-American propaganda . And it is equally

true that the American people remain friends of the Chinese people .

It is no longer possible for them to show that friendship as once they did.

China is not open to the great charitable endeavors that gathered the contribu

tions of Americans from the smallest villages of the land for Chinese missions.

We cannot now send our teachers and preachers into China, to show that this

traditional friendship for the Chinese persists.

We can aid and we ought to aid the hapless Chinese who are trying to escape

the scourge of famine by flight to Hong Kong. The British crown colony already

has absorbed more Chinese refugees than anyone would have thought possible.

The efforts of Hong Kong to block the entrance of more than can be cared for

in the already overcrowded city is understandable. The responsibility is too

great for Hong Kong, but it is not too great for the United States and the free

world.

Until the officials of Red China ask for famine relief it is not possible or

feasible to supply food to the mainland . We do not need to await the initiative

of Red China to take care of the starving masses who are knocking at the gates

of the British colony. We ought to move to lighten a burden that would be un

endurable for Hong Kong alone. We should transport the refugees to Taiwan

or some other less crowded spot. We should then undertake to provide these

unfortunate people with food from our bulging stocks of surpluses. There will

be other costs of course .

Whatever the costs amount to they will give us value received simply by eras

ing the vision of starving men, women, and children standing in need and want

across the Hong Kong barbed wire. To try to find out how and why they are

there, by whose fault they are in need and pain, is a piece of futile inquiry and

conjecture. It is enough to know that they are in need . One cannot believe

that a generation of misunderstanding and conflict with the Red Chinese has ex

tinguished the historic sympathy and affection of the American people for the

Chinese people. Let the gates into Hong Kong be opened. Let us minister unto

the sick and feed the hungry as we have been wont to do in times past. The

bonds of sympathy, compassion , and understanding abide still in spite of all

the winds of doctrine . We can show that this is so by sending relief missions to

Hong Kong.

The President of the United States probably is the only person in the world

who has the power to set in motion at once an organization equal to the task of

caring for these suffering people. A swift response to this crisis, perfected in

cooperation with the British Government whose interests are so directly in

volved, would do much to show that nothing has diminished our feeling for

the stricken people of China.

[ From the Washington Post, May 22 , 1962 )

FAMINE IN CHINA

Famine, that dread and ancient enemy of man, is again abroad in the world,

stalking the vast plains of China, afflicting its teeming city masses, and hurling

multitudes of starving men, women, and children against the barricades of

Hong Kong.

The statesmen of this country, and of other countries which have food to

give, have many reasons why they cannot act to meet this dreadful scourge.

This country does not have relations with Red China . Red China has not

asked for help. There is no room at all in Hong Kong. There is little room

on Taiwan. There is no room anywhere. These are persuasive reasons ; but

they are not persuasive enough . They are not as persuasive as hunger .

They are not the answer to hunger. Hunger admits of no armistices, delays,

treaties, or compromises. Diplomacy has not a good answer for it. Science

has no answer . Politics and diplomacy and science are all very complicated.

Hunger is very simple. And there is only one answer to it. That answer

is food .

Sooner or later the West in general and the United States in particular will

make that answer. The conscience of this country will not permit it to with

hold any help it can give if the people of China continue to flood toward the

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barricades of Hong Kong. We may devise a reason a day why we cannot

act. But the hordes beyond the barrier will produce 10,000 reasons a day why

we must act . And the American people will be moved by these reasons. They

will not understand why there must be hungry people at Hong Kong while there

are granaries bulging with food in the United States. They will begin by

blaming Red China for this dreadful calamity ; but if we do nothing to avert

it, they will end by blaming redtape. For all of our logical , plausible, tenable

political reasons will sould like redtape if we let the dead pile up like so much

debris along the Hong Kong barricade.

The world is face to face with another famine, like the terrible famines

that have scourged mankind since the dawn of history. It is a famine that

somehow seems more terrible because it is happening in a generation when

man has dared even to attempt the conquest of space . How strange if such a

generation cannot cope with this ancient foe. Perhaps it is partly because we

have forgotten what sheer hunger is like. Maybe we need to hear old witnesses

to its horror, witnesses like Laurence Binyon who contemplated the great

famines of World War I and wrote in the London Nation for December 1918,

these lines :

I come among the peoples like a shadow.

I sit down by each man's side.

None sees me , but they look on one another ,

And know that I am there.

My silence is like the silence of the tide

That buries the playground of children ;

Like the deepening of frost in the slow night,

When birds are dead in the morning.

Armies trample, invade, destroy ,

With guns roaring from earth and air.

I am more terrible than armies,

I am more feared than cannon .

Kings and chancellors give commands ;

I give no command to any ;

But I am listened to more than kings

And more than passionate orators .

I unswear words, and undo deeds.

Naked things know me.

I am first and last to be felt of the living.

I am Hunger.

The Government of Nationalist China, by offering to accept Hong Kong refu

gees, has taken a step that will make it possible for others to take useful actions. 41

The way may now be opened for vast and effective operations that hitherto could

not have been so readily accomplished . The world outside of Red China has,

as yet, only the faintest intimations of the dimensions of the tragedy. However

great it is, we have great resources at hand to meet it . 9

Let us rejoice that we have the means to turn back this ancient enemy of man.

Let us embrace the opportunity to send food and blessings to Asia, as well as

soldiers and weapons. Let us embark upon a great mission of mercy. Let us

live up to our most honorable traditions. Let us demonstrate anew our his

toric friendship for the Chinese people. Let us send succor to those who beg

for food at the barbed -wire barricades of Hong Kong.

+

[ From the New York Times, Mar. 30, 1962 )

GRANGE CHIEF FAVORS FooD SALES TO RED CHINA — PROTESTS THE U.S.

PROHIBITION AGAINST SHIPMENTS — WHEATGROWERS ALSO ASK LIFTING OF

RESTRICTIONS

( By Donald Janson )

3

CHICAGO, March 29.—Herschel D. Newsom, master of the National Grange,

challenged today the Government's ban on sale of food to Communist China.

Mr. Newsom said the organization's executive committee would meet next week

to discuss the ban . He said it would probably issue a formal protest against the

administration's rejection last Friday of a Seattle exporter's request for permis

sion to sell some $ 400 million worth of wheat and barley to China and North

Korea .

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" Restraint of trade on the necessities of life is a totally different matter from

an embargo on goods of warmaking potential such as steel," he said in a tele

phone interview from his Washington office.

This is the first time the Grange, which has 800,000 members on the Nation's

farms, has come so close to taking a stand on the question. Mr. Newsom based

his view on humanitarian considerations rather than the need to reduce the

Nation's price -depressing surplus of 1,200 million bushels of wheat.

The position quickly gained the support of representatives of the National

Wheat Growers Association in Kansas. In the association's Washington office,

however, James Dyess, executive vice president, said his organization had no

policy on the matter and “ does not feel we should try to influence the foreign

policy of the country one way or another."

There is now an embargo against shipment of any goods to Communist China

and North Korea , although the law establishing it set up a Cabinet- level review

board with authority to waive it and grant export licenses in specific cases.

President Kennedy said at a news conference 2 weeks ago that there was

" no information " that the Seattle concern had any direct purchase orders from

the Peiping or North Korea regimes. The implication was that an open request

from the Chinese for food to feed a starving populace might get a different

response .

Charles B. Shuman, president of the American Farm Bureau Federation, said

here that his organization believed " we should sell for dollars anywhere anyone

wants to buy.” But he added that he was not in favor of " soliciting” business

with Communist China even though the competitors of American wheatgrowers

in Canada were doing so .

A new organization , called the Kansas Freedom From Hunger Committee, was

formed in Topeka earlier this week . It hopes to collect the signatures of 100,000

Kansans for an open letter to President Kennedy requesting the shipment of sur

plus food to Communist China “ as an act of human compassion regardless of

ideological and political differences. ” Today, posts of Veterans of Foreign Wars

and the American Legion in Topeka protested the petition .

[ From the New York Times, Apr. 1 , 1962)

MEANY PROPOSES Food AID TO REDS—WOULD SEND U.S. TEAMS TO DISTRIBUTE

FREE GOODS , AS HOOVER DID IN THE 1920's

WASHINGTON , March 31 ( AP ) .–George Meany proposed today a plan to send

American relief teams behind the Iron Curtain to distribute free food and medi

cine. The Communist world , he said , is plagued by starvation.

The labor leader said such a plan was negotiated with Lenin following World

War I had worked out well , and, under the direction of Herbert Hoover, had

saved millions of lives in the Russian famine of the early 1920's.

" It should ,” he said , " therefore be welcomed by Mao Tse - tung, Khrushchev,

Castro, Tito and all the other Communist dictators who now are vying with each

other in expressing undying devotion to everything Lenin ever said or did . ”

Mr. Meany outlined his plan in the American Federationist, monthly magazine

of the American Federation of Labor and Council of Industrial Organizations,

Mr. Meany, who is president of the federation , said Americans would like to

help alleviate human suffering if they had an assured way of getting aid to

those who needed it.

OPPOSES SALES OF GOODS

Mr. Meany said selling grain or goods to dictators " whose policies have brought

misery and hunger” to their peoples would not help . Communist leaders, he

said , are not above reselling such supplies or storing them for military forces

" geared to oppression at home and aggression abroad.”

But he said an organization such as the American Relief Administration in.

the twenties that sent American teams to stricken areas and gave aid directly

to famine victims could work without any “ possible misunderstanding by the

recipients of the aid as to who helped them ."

President Kennedy has said there have been no requests for aid from Com

munist China, which has a severe food shortage. But Mr. Meany noted that

Mr. Kennedy had stated recently about that situation that “ if people's lives are

iuvolved , if there is a desire for food, the United States would consider it

carefully.”

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Saying the Communists had expressed deep gratitude for the aid given after

World War I , Mr. Meany continued :

“ Our country has always shown great generosity and capacity in helping save

people from starvation . The American people would rather give away some of

their rice, wheat, butter, textiles, and medicines to the needy people in Com

munist China, Cuba, and elsewhere behind the Iron Curtain than to sell these

goods for gold mined by slave labor.

" AGAINST ' BUSINESS AS USUAL

“ The suffering is far too great and the human crisis is far too grave to be met

with business as usual transactions and deals. The conquest of hunger must

know no politics.

“ The principles and experience of the American Relief Association in saving

Lenin's Russia from famine could well provide the guiding line for our country's

efforts to help those now menaced by famine behind the Iron Curtain ."

Some Communist countries in Europe, including Poland and Yugoslavia , are

receiving United States surplus food shipments, as well as aid from private

United States relief agencies. No American food is being sent to Communist

China , although Peiping buys some food supplies from Allied countries.

The American embargo on trade with Cuba does not apply to food or medicine.

However, Cuban food purchases here have been dwindling, with Premier Fidel

Castro apparently spending what cash he has for military supplies. Mr. Meany

said the Cuban food shortage was becoming desperate.

[ From the Washington Star, Apr. 1 , 1962 )

SEND U.S. FOOD TEAMS TO REDS, MEANY ASKS

AFL - CIO President George Meany yesterday proposed a plan to send Ameri

can relief teams behind the Communist iron curtain to distribute free food

and medicine to starving millions.

Mr. Meany said such a plan negotiated with the late Communist leader Nikolai

Lenin following World War I worked out well and, under the direction of Herbert

Hoover, saved millions of lives in the Russian famine of the early 1920's.

“ It should,” he said , " therefore be welcomed by Mao Tsetung, Khrushchev,

Castro, Tito and all the other Communist dictators who now are vying with each

other in expressing undying devotion to everything Lenin ever said or did.”

Mr. Meany, outlining his plan in the AFL - CIO monthly magazine, the Ameri

can Federationist, said the Communist world is plagued with starvation. He

said Americans would like to help ease human suffering if they had an assured

way of getting aid to those who need it.

Mr. Meany said selling grain or goods to dictators “whose policies have brought

misery and hunger” to their peoples won't help because he said the Red leaders

are not above reselling ch supplies or storing them for military forces "geared

to oppression at home an aggression abroad.”

But he said an organization like the American relief administration in the

1920's that sent American teams to stricken areas and gave aid directly to

famine victims could work without any “possible misunderstanding by the

recipients of the aid as to who helped them .”

President Kennedy has said there have been no requests for aid from famine

hit Red China. But Mr. Meany noted that Mr. Kennedy had stated recently

about that situation that “ if people's lives are involved , if there is a desire for TI

food, the United States would consider it carefully."

Some Communist satellite countries in Europe, including Poland and Yugo

slavia , are receiving U.S. surplus food shipments, as well as aid from

private U.S. relief agencies. No American food is being sent to Red

China although it buys some food supplies from allied countries.

So far as Cuba is concerned the American embargo does not apply to food

or medicine. However, Cuban food purchases here have been dwindling with

Castro apparently spending what cash he has for military supplies. Mr. Meany ,

said the Cuban food shortage is becoming desperate.

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[ From the Gazette and Dally, Mar. 27, 1962 ]

HUNGER IN CHINA

Refusal of the Commerce Department the other day to permit shipment of 642

million tons of wheat and barley to China and North Korea by a business firm

in Seattle once again pinponts our blindness to reality in dealing with the Chinese

people. The only China we know is the paper government of Chiang Kai-shek

on Formosa ; the 600 some million on mainland China — 20 percent of the world's

population — are officially nonexistent. We haven't recognized them since their

unification and have done all within our power to keep them from joining the

family of nations represented by the U.N.

We seem to be bent on repeating the blunders with China that we made in

dealing with Russia a generation ago ; and with the same ill effect. It took us

15 years before we got around to exchange ambassadors with the Soviets. Dur

ing that period we not only declined to do business with them diplomatically but

turned thumbs down on businessmen who sought commercial opportunities there.

When Col. Hugh L. Cooper, a retired Army engineer , who built the dam on the

Dnieper river for the Soviets, in the twenties, returned with a glowing report of

the business possibilities for American capital and American know - how and

urged American businessmen to take advantage of the opportunity , the then

Commerce Department under Herbert Hoover would have none of it.

The results are now history . We lost a great opportunity, and the friendship

of the Russian people whose efforts at industrialization subjected them to hard

ships which might have been avoided had they been able to benefit by American

capital and American know-how. If our policy was designed to block Soviet

efforts to industrialize, we have succeeded only in alienating the goodwill of a

people with whom , like it or not, we must live and get along in a world much

smaller than it was even a generation ago . There's little doubt but that the lack

of confidence on both sides impeding the disarmament sessions at Geneva, is in

no small degree due to the attitude maintained when the Soviets were the under

dog in world affairs. Our present attitude toward China shows we have learned

little from our experience with Russia.

Refusal to permit shipment of foodstuff to China by American businessmen has

overtones of a far more serious character than political folly . We appear to

be saying by our behavior that because we don't like China's form of government

we don't care how many Chinese men, women, and children suffer from mal

nutrition . These are shipments of food , not guns. Such an attitude belies the

natural generosity of the American people who have never turned a deaf ear to

the suffering of mankind.

A great friend of America in our own days of trial, Edmund Burke, addressing

an unfriendly House of Commons, put it in words worth repeating : “Magna

nimity in politics is not seldom the truest of wisdom, and great empires and little

minds go ill together." How true.

[ Advertisement from the New York Times, May 28 , 1962 )

FAMINE IN CHINA --OUR GOVERNMENT HAS OVER 2.3 BILLION BUSHELS OF SURPLUS

GRAIN - WE HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION To LIFT OUR EMBARGO

DEAR MR. PRESIDENT : We feel acutely the disparity between our abundance

of food and the terrible scarcity in other lands. There is famine on the main

land of China while we in America have a surplus of wheat. The United States

traditionally has responded to a concern for the hungry of the world . Political

disagreements should not interfere with the fulfillment of our moral obligation

to feed starving people wherever they may be.

Mr. President, you reflected this American sense of responsibility in your

first press conference when you said : “ If there is a desire for food and a need

for food, the United States would be glad to consider that need, regardless of

the source . "

In fulfillment of this policy we urge that the United States now take the

following actions :

Authorize the private sale of grain to mainland China.

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Offer to work out arrangements for making grain from our surplus stocks

available as a gift to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization

for famine relief in China.

Herbert Agoos Felicia Lamport Kaplan

Ruth Agoos James Lawrence, Jr.

William Alfred Hilda Lieberg

Robert N. Bellah George McCandlish

Crane Brinton Violet Brooks McCandlish

Cecilia Brinton Dr. Samuel G. McClellan

Gorham Brooks David McClelland

Shepherd Brooks Mary McClelland

Katherine Bruner Millicent Cary McIntosh

Hiidreth Burnett Adelaide Marquand

Bishop Donald J. Campbell Leonore Marshall

Hester Hocking Campbell Harold C. Martin

James Carey Perry Miller

Henry Steele Commager Elizabeth Miller

Evan Commager Evelyn Morgan

Francis Judd Cooke Dr. Henry Adams Mosher

Maymay Ludwig Cooke Nancy Mosher

Jacqueline Cooke Henry A. Murray

Albert Sprague Coolidge Robert B. Nathanson

Margaret Stewart Coolidge Reinhold Niebuhr

Phyllis Byrne Cox Ursula Niebuhr

Gordon Crothers David Edward Owen

Marion Crothers Louise Owen

Charles Eliot John B. Paine, Jr.

Regina Eliot Henrietta N. Paine

Alla G. Emerson J. Harlston Parker

Erik H. Erikson Susannah Ayer Parker

Dr. Jacob Fine Hester Chanler Pickman.

Dr. Maurice Fremont-Smith Royce Pitkin

Mary Thayer Fremont- Smith Helen Pitkin

Roger Fisher Dr. Curtis Prout

Josephine Crosby Forbes F. L. W. Richardson , Jr.

Dr. M. Robert Gardner Rebecca B. Richardson

Rabbi Roland B. Gittelsohn David Riesman

John Chipman Gray Norman Rockwell

Helen L. Gray Mollie Rockwell

Rosalind Huidekoper Greene Elizabeth C. Rubel

Lee S. Halprin Florence Selleck

Isabelle Halstead José Luis Sert

Mary F. Handlin Moncha Sert

William Ernest Hocking Stanley D. Sheldon

C. Fenno Hoffman , Jr. Sayre Phillips Sheldon

Ruth Hoffman Elsie B. Sherwood

Irene Hoglund William Shurcliff

Mark DeWolfe Howe Joan Hopkinson Shurcliff

Georgina P. Howland Alice Smith

Celia Hubbard Elizabeth B. Spencer

Everett Cherrington Hughes Polly Thayer Starr

Helen Hughes Paul Tillich

Arnold Hunnewell Hannah Tillich

Mary C. Hlunnewell Rev. Howard Thurman

Gertrude Amory Hutchins Christopher Tunnard

Louis L. Jaffe Sam Bass Warner, Jr.

Mildred M. Jaffe Dr. Richard Warren

Dr. Charles A. Janeway Cora Lyman Warren

Elizabeth B. Janeway Robert W. White

Evelyn Johnson Margaret L. White

Howard Mumford Jones Amos Wilder

Theodore Jones Catharine Wilder

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7

NEW ENGLAND COMMITTEE FOR FAMINE RELIEF TO CHINA

Esmee De Menocal Brooks Mary Manning Howe

Joan Mowat Erikson Evelyn Thompson Riesman

Caroline Speer Fisher Lyle Lobel Warner

We urge you to cut out and sign this advertisement and send it to your

Congressman . We urge you also to reprint this in your local newspaper. Write

New England Committee, 140 Upland Road, Cambridge, Mass.

FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION ,

NORTHERN CALIFORNIA OFFICE,

San Francisco, Calif., November 25, 1961 .

President John F. KENNEDY ,

The White House, Washington, D.C.

DEAR JOHN KENNEDY : The enclosed statement urging the sale of wheat to the

Peoples Republic of China has been endorsed by the religious leaders listed below.

It is my understanding that sale of the wheat could proceed if you were to direct

the Department of Commerce to issue an export license for this purpose. It is

the hope of the signers that if this is the situation , you will see that a license

is issued soon . If present law prohibits action, they would appreciate your

efforts to change the law.

Signers of the statement are

Sidney Akselrad, president of the Northern California Board of Rabbis,

Temple Beth El, Arch and Vine Streets, Berkeley.

Joseph Glaser, social action chairman of the Northern California Board

of Rabbis, Union of American Hebrew Congregations, 209 Post St., San

Francisco.

George T. Peters, chairman of the Social Education & Action Committee of

the United Presbyterian Church , Synod of California , First Presbyterian

Church, Burlingame, Calif.

James Pike, bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of California, 1055 Taylor

St. , San Francisco.

Harry Scholefield , minister of the First Unitarian Church of San Fran

cisco, Geary and Van Ness Streets, San Francisco .

Madge Seaver, chairman of the northern California office of the Friends

Committee on Legislation , 2160 Lake St. , San Francisco.

W. Earle Smith, executive secretary of the American Baptist Union of

the San Francisco Bay Cities, 83 McAllister St. , San Francisco.

Sincerely,

HENRY LOHMANN .

A STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF SELLING WHEAT TO MAINLAND CHINA,

NOVEMBER 22, 1961

Thanksgiving in America has always been a time for pausing after the harvest

to give thanks to God for providing a land which has brought forth food and

materials in abundance . But can one lift his heart in such thanks without a

deep longing to see fed all those who hunger ?

This week news has come that mainland China is seeking to purchase American

surplus wheat through private channels. It is reported that the purchases are

needed to raise the food ration to 1,500 calories daily for the Chinese, hardly

enough to sustain life. It is reported also that our Government may not allow

this sale of surplus wheat.

Our land has been so blessed in the production of grain that some have come

to view America's overflowing silos as a burden . Now this surplus offers an

opportunity to respond to human beings in extremity.

With thanks to God for his bounteous goodness to us , we petition our Govern.

ment , and the people of our Nation to place no barrier to selling food to those

who are hungry in any land, regardless of the political position of their leaders,

which most certainly we do not endorse in this instance.

We hope that those in authority in China will convey to the Chinese people

the concern that we feel for their welfare. May our action as a nation be

such that it will serve to bring closer the day when swords will be beaten into

plowshares and spears into pruning hooks.

87541_62 -6

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" But whoso hath this world's good , and seeth his brother have need, and

shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God

in him ?" I John 3:17 .

" If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat * * * ." Proverbs 25:21.

[ From the New York Times, May 28 , 1962 ]

RABBI URGES UNITED STATES TO OFFER GRAIN TO RED CHINA - EISENDRATH WOULD

NOT WAIT TO BE ASKED FOR THE SURPLUS - HE FEARS POWER STRUGGLE IS

SUBMERGING MORAL VALUES

( By Irving Spiegel)

A leader of American Reform Judaism urged the national administration last

night to take the " moral initiate ” and offer surplus grain to Red China “ with

out waiting to be asked for it ."

Rabbi Maurice N. Eisendrath, president of the Union of American Hebrew

Congregations, referred to President Kennedy's statements that the United States

would be willing to supply the grain if Red China made such a request. The

spiritual leader said :

“ I deeply fear that in this grueling contest with communism , we often sub

ordinate our moral and human values to our military and scientific power . But

moral impotence on our part will in the long run have a greater impact on the

hearts and minds of the peoples of the world than all our military pyrotechnics,

our troops in Thailand , our rockets to the moon , and our blasting of Van Allen

Belts in outer space .”

Dr. 'Eisendrath“ spoke at a $ 100 -a -plate dinner given by the Combined Cam

paign for American Reform Judaism in the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in connection

with the board of trustees meeting of the Union of American Hebrew Congre

gations. The union is the representive body of all reform congregations in

the Western Hemisphere.

The proceeds of the dinner will go toward the support and maintenance of

the programs of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations and the Hebrew

Union College -Jewish Institute of Religion, a reform rabbinical seminary.

Representative Abraham J. Multer of Brooklyn, a member of the union's board

of trustees, received a plaque in recognition of his public service and efforts on

behalf of American Reform Judaism. Jack Davis, general chairman of the cam

paign , inade the presentation.

In his address, Rabbi Eisendrath described as “ ugly” the fact that “under our

basic and permanent immigration law, the immigration quota of the entire

country of China is 104." 1

“ Our immigration laws are based upon racism and discrimination," he said.

In another address, James J. Saxon , U.S. Controller of the Currency , appealed -

to bankers, businessmen and labor leaders not to limit themselves to meeting the

requirements of “ the law ” but to give increasing weight to “ the social impli

cations" of their acts and to conduct their affairs with the national interest in

mind .

AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT KENNEDY

We Kansans, living in the breadbasket of America, feel acutely the disparity

between our abundance in food and the scarcity in other lands .

Particularly do we sense the human tragedy of famine and starvation on the

mainland of China. We believe that both we and the Chinees people, in spite

of the ideological and political differences that separate our governments, are

kin in the common root of all mankind : “ God hath made of one blood all nations

of men .” Acts 17:26.

Mr. President, we petition you ( and the Congress of the United States) to

seek ways to make food from our abundance available to the hungry of China

as an act of human compassion . " If thine enemy hunger, give him bread to

eat.” Proverbs 25:21.

.

We realize that many difficulties stand in the way of our desire to alleviate

the distress of the Chinese people. The obstacles notwithstanding, we urge that

the U.S. Government take immediate initiative and quickly make an offer in

good faith through international channels.

For we would not be true to the bedrock idealism of our American heritage

nor to the golden rule of our religious faith if we too easily called ourselves

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helpless to assist our hungry brothers. We must test every means to that end,

which, with the help of God , we will discover.

As you have stated , Mr. President, in your first press conference on January

25 , 1961, the United States would be glad to consider the need for food “ regard

less of the source” where “ peoples' lives are involved .” We believe that it is

urgent that we act now because peoples' lives are involved . To this end we sub

mit the following :

1. That the United States offer to provide famine relief for the Chinese

people under title II of Public Law 480, which permits grants of food to

friendly people regardless of the friendliness of their Government;

2. That such assistance be made through United Nations channels, perhaps

under the auspices of the Food and Agricultural Organization's current

“ Freedom From Hunger Campaign ” ;

3. That the arrangement with the U.N. provide that the Chinese govern

ment repay the U.N. in money or in kind. The amount so repaid could be

used to meet future food emergencies in other parts of the world.

Rev. Harold Z. Bomberger, pastor, McPherson Church of the Brethren, presi.

dent, Kansas Council of Churches ; Dr. Desmond Bittinger, president, McPherson

College, McPherson , Kans.; C. Verne Cochran, farmer, president, Federal and

Land Bank Association, of Topeka ; Rev. R. Dale Ferris , Kansas State director,

Church World Service, CROP ; Dr. E. G. Froyd , executive secretary Synod of

Kansas, United Presbyterian Church, U.S.A.; Alice Margaret Huggins, China

missionary, author, Topeka , Kans.; Professor Emeritus John Ise, University of

Kansas, Lawrence, Kans. ; The Rev. Robert J. Kelly , S.J. , St. Mary's Seminary,

St. Marys, Kans. ; Rt. Rev. Arnold M. Lewis, bishop, Episcopal Missionary Dis

trict of Western Kansas, Salina, Kans.; Dr. NedBurr McKenny, minister, Cen

tral Congregational Church, Topeka , Kans. ; William C. Menninger, M.D. , the

Menninger Foundation, Topeka, Kans. ; Dr. L. M. Rymph , superintendent, Kansas

Congregational and Christian Conference ; Rabbi Elbert Sapinsley, Temple Beth

Sholem , Topeka, Kans.; Bishop Eugene Slater, Kansas area , the Methodist

Church ; Rev. Harold B. Statler, executive secretary, Kansas Council of Churches,

Topeka, Kans.; Mrs. Ernest Tonsing, past president, Kansas United Church

Women, Topeka, Kans. ; Dr. Ewart Watts, minister, First Methodist Church,

Topeka, Kans.; Rev. Ralph Weber, president, Western District Conference, Gen

eral Conference Mennonite Church, Moundridge, Kans.

Senator Fong. Do you feel there is a majority opinion in the United

States to offer food to thehungry in China?

Mr. SNYDER. This Gallup poll was made 15 months ago and the

figures then were 52 percent in favor, 37 percent opposed, and 11 per

cent with no opinion . There have been a number ofopinion leaders,

farm organizations, religious groups, and some of our leading editorial

writers in our newspapers who favored this point of view in one form

or another .

There are differences in the proposals they would support, but they

haveall indicated interest and support for the general idea of using

U.S. surplus food to feed the hungry in China.

Senator Fong. Now , do you know anything about the sending of

food parcels from Hong Kong to the interior of China ? Do you have

any information on that ?

Mr. SNYDER. I think William Channel can speak to that. All I

could speak to would be that it is impossible for an American citizen

to try to send a food parcel to a person in China through Hong Kong

or nay other way.

Mr. CHANNEL. Practically everyone in Hong Kong seems to have a

relative or several relatives in China to whom they are sending food .

During the month of March, I believe, more than a million of these

packages were sent to China through the mails.

Now, the food that goes through the mail from Hong Kong, cannot

exceed 2 pounds per package.

There arealso certain shops that have set up business in Hong Kong

for direct delivery of commodities to China. Customers at these

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shops prepay the duty in Hong Kong dollars for any food they send

into China, so that recipients will not have to pay duty.

Because of the cotton shortage, the Chinese receive a ration of 21/22

feet of cotton per year. Thus, many people who send packages to

China use face towels as wrapping material andput the writing on

the outside of that so at the same time they send food, they also send

a little cotton .

Senator Fong. Do you have any information as to whether these

parcels actually get there !

Mr. CHANNEL. I can only say that individuals whom I know in

Hong Kongwho send food say that the food is delivered .

Senator Fong. The same thing is happening in Macao, is it not ?

Mr. CHANNEL . Yes, I think so; although I think the refugees in

Macao are less affluent than those in Hong Kong. There is a greater

shortage of jobs in Macao, so they are probably not able to send as

much food to China as the peopleof Hong Kong.

Senator Fong. I was interested in your desalination plant. Do

you know whether the Hong Kong government is considering such

a plant ?

Mr. CHANNEL. I have not seen anything in the press inHong Kong

for a little over a year.At that time, the matter was discussed, but

it was felt that the cost was prohibitive. Now that Congress has

passed a law allowing the Department of the Interior to help finance

such projects, construction of a desalination plant might very well be

feasible.

The Office of Saline Water in the Departmentof the Interior could

supply you with additional information as to the possibilities here.

Senator Fong. What did you say was the number of gallons used in

Hong Kong per day ?

Mr. CHANNEL. Approximately 40 to 50 million a day.

Senator Fong. Would you propose a plant that would take care of

100 percent of their needs ?

Mr. CHANNEL. Well, by saying 40 to 50 million gallons a day, I

am saying that at this level, they do not have enough water. For

instance, I know the difference, from experience of living in Hong

Kong when there is 8 hours a day of water instead of only 4 hours a

day of water. The difference in livingcomfort is tremendous. So

that is, during the periods that Hong Kong normally provides its

people with 4 hours of water they could have 8 hours of water a day,

this would make a tremendous difference. So that even though con

struction of аa. desalination plant might increase the supply 100 percent

over the present water supply during the short seasons of the year,

it still would only be a supplementary plant.

By theway, on the cost of this thing, the cost of converting water is

quite high in a small million -gallon-a -day plant. It costs something

like $ 1 per 1,000 gallons. But the cost goes down as production goes

up. According to some estimates, the cost of producing 50 million

gallons a day might be out back to42 cents per 1,000 gallons. The

present cost of producing water in Hong Kong is 20 cents per 1,000

gallons, using the reservoir system . So you see ,conversion is stillnot

as economical as the reservoir system presently used in Hong Kong,

but Hong Kong is in exactly the situation where a more expensive

system should be explored because the shortage is so acute and the

needs are so great. Construction of a desalination plant in Hong

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Kong could provide the world with a valuable laboratory for explor

ing additional techniques for converting sea water to fresh water at

low cost .

Senator Fong. Would you cut the volume down to one-half ? If

you were to cut the volume down to one-half of 50 million gallons,

say to 25 million gallons, would the cost be cut from $40 to $ 20 million ?

Mr. CHANNEL . The cost of installation would be cut, of course , but

the cost of producing water would be higher.

Senator Fong. Mr. Channel, were you in Hong Kong when the

textile agreement was entered into ?

Mr. CHANNEL. Yes.

Senator Fong. Would you tell us something about the reaction ?

Mr. CHANNEL. The reaction was very bitter. Now, I think we need

to consider that some of the bitter reaction that appeared in the papers

was the voice of the big manufacturers. The big manufacturer spoke

of the hardship to refugees, whereas he may have been thinking actu

ally about his own profits. However, the fact does remain that it is

the workingman that suffers and is thrown out of work. I think

Hong Kong has been unrealistic in not diversifying its industry.more

rapidly. The textile industry is comparatively easy to set up and

put into production as compared to some of the heavier industries.

The Hong Kong manufacturers took advantage of this fact because

it provided quick return for their capital . That is why I have sug

gested that we try to give some aid to Hong Kong industrialists, per

haps researchwise, in helping them diversify their industry, so that

they can still employ vast numbers of people but will not become so

much of a threat to our particular markets.

Of course, I understand that the textiles we import are relatively

small as faras ourtotal textile production is concerned.

Senator Fong. The long bell you heard says “ Come and vote," so

I will have to call a recess for about half an hour.

( Recess taken. )

Senator Fong. Mr. Channel, may I ask you one question ?

Mr. CHANNEL. Yes.

Mr. Fong. The American Friends Service Committee, how many

members are there in that committee ?

How big is your membership ?

Mr. CHANNEL. Well, the American Friends Service Committee is

a national Quaker organization formed to operate service programs.

It is aa board of directors and many committees and subcommittees on

refugees, on social and technical assistance, on race relations, and that

sort of thing. The total number of members on these various commit

tees I would not know .

Senator Fong. Thank you.

Mr. Teymuraz K. Bagration.

STATEMENT OF TEYMURAZ K. BAGRATION, EXECUTIVE SECRE

TARY, TOLSTOY FOUNDATION, INC., NEW YORK , N.Y.

Senator Fong. Mr. Bagration is here in place of Alexandra Tolstoy,

president of the Tolstoy Foundation .

Mr. BAGRATION. I am Teymuraz K. Bagration , Executive Secretary

of the Tolstoy Foundation .

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Before I read my statement, may I say a few words of introduction ?

We share the concern of voluntary agencies of the American people

for the refugees in Hong Kong from China. We are very much im

pressed and happy to see the President's emergency program being

enacted. Weare also very much in favor of Senator Hart's S. 3043,

which will enlarge the quota for Chinese people, because this will be a

certain solution to the problem .

But our special concern is for group which is not included in the

President's emergency program, and our statement is about this group .

During the past decade, several thousands of Russian refugees,many

of whom were born in China, have been escaping to freedom from

Harbin , Shanghai, Tsientsin, and other Chinese cities. They enter

Hong Kong on a transit visa and are helped by voluntary agencies,

mainly by the World Council of Churches - I should add by CARE,

with food packages — to emigrate to other countries — mostly to Latin

America and Australia. At the present moment there are 162 Russian

refugees in Hong Kong.

Unfortunately those who are sent to the countries of South Ameri

ca cannot be always considered as permanently resettled anda great

number of those refugees are now immigrating to the United States

on affidavits provided by their relatives or other organizations.

According to the survey just made by the Director of the Tolstoy

Foundation ,Mrs. Tatiana Schaufuss, inArgentina, Brazil, and Chile,

a great number of those refugees have no permanent work and live

in great poverty and need — especially the old and disabled.

After the Russian revolution of 1918 some 80,000 Russians re *

mained in China ; the White Russian Armies of Admiral Koltchak .

refugees from Siberia, and the families of the personnel of the Rus

sian -Chinese Railway. Only a small part was evacuated in the early

fifties by the InternationalRefugee Organization to the Philippines ,

the Tolstoy Foundation took part in their resettlement- others were

forced to return to Soviet Russia. For those who remained in China,

life became unbearable.

At the present moment 6,000 to 8,000 Russian refugees still remain in

China. These people have been suffering for many years under the

yoke of communism , with the only hope to escape and start living

like human beings in a free country. Among those Russians is a group

of religious farmers, of the old Orthodox faith — the so-called old

Believers — residing in Singkiang and Manchuria.

In 1940 those in Singkiang were organized in army groups of the

Nationalist Chinese military units which fought in 1946–48 against

the Red Chinese and the Soviet Army. Out of a group of 200 men ,

that's from Singkiang, only 22 escaped through the Gobi Desert, the

Himalayas, and the snowy mountains of Tibet - finally reached Cal

cutta in 1952 — from where they emigrated with the help of the Tol

stoy Foundation and are now happily resettled in Haverstraw near

the Tolstoy Foundation Farm in Rockland County, N.Y.

Another group of Old Believers, assisted by the World Council

of Churches,immigrated through Hong Kong to the Parana Prov

ince of Brazil, where some of them are not happy, and to our knowl

edge there is still a large number of them in China.

The Russian refugees in China have behind them many years of

physical and moral suffering. It was not easy for the Russians,, many

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 83

of whom fought against Communists and who opposed communism ,

to follow the orders for registration with the Soviet Government rep

resentatives in China so as to be able to have some kind of identifica

tion card enabling them to receive employment and food -ration cards

and not face starvation .

Chinese refugees and refugees from China of European origin

born in Russia or China, have been a problem since the end of World

War II. The American Government has shown its .concern and

given support to the refugees, with funds for transportation and

maintenance through the Intergovernmental Committee for Euro

pean Migration , the United Nations High Commissioner for Re

fugees, the U.S. escapee program and the Far East refugee program .

The President's emergency program to bring several thousand Chin

ese refugees to this country, under the parolee provision of the law,

is a great contribution to therefugee problem and has raised the

sympathy and admiration of all those who work inthe refugee field.

The Tolstoy Foundation sincerely hopes that the European refugees

from China, manyof whom were born in that country, will also bene

fit from the President's emergency program , and that those people

who live under constant threat of deportation, who from month to

month survive on scanty ration cards, whose security is in danger

would also be worthy of consideration and would be given a chance

to start a new life in this country.

The Tolstoy Foundation stands ready to help those refugees.

Mr. Chairman, may I add tothis that the quota under the present

law for Europeans born in China is 105. The preference, the four

preferences are open , but we are concerned about thoserefugees who

are still in China and who are not eligible for any preference quota.

I call them refugees although they are still in China, because they

are refugees from the Russian revolution. They received asylum

in China. They went through the tribulations and all the hardships

of the Chinese people being together withthe Chineseunder the Japa

nese occupation, under the Soviet occupation of Manchuria until 1946 ,

and laterunder the Communist regime.

We feel that no distinction should be made between Chinese na

tional refugees and the Russian refugees in China. They are under

the same difficulties and the same dangers. If there is a possibility

to bring some of them to this country, especially those whocannot go

to Latin America for one reason or another, it would be a great im

provement and a great boost to the morale of the Russians in China .

Senator Fong. You are speaking primarily of the 200 Russian refu

gees in Hong Kong ; is that it ?

Mr. BAGRATION . No, sir, Mr. Chairman . There are 162 in Hong

Kong now. There are usually not over 300, because the crown col

onyaccepts refugees only in transit. They must show evidence of a

final destination , which at the present time is usually South America

or Australia. I am speaking of several thousand refugees who are

still in China. It is a very difficult thing to give a correct figure now .

It varies from the source . Some people say there are 10,000 people ;

others say there are6,000.

I just spoke with Mr. Brown today, who mentioned the figure of

6,000 people in China and 2,000 who are not registered, which makes

about 8,000 altogether.

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Senator Fong. Do you know whether they could get out of Com

munist China ?

Mr. BAGRATION. If they are able to secure an entry visa to some

country, which they are not always able to do, sometimes, because

they are afraid to approach or deal with foreign agencies, or foreign

consulates. The next question is if they are able to raise enough ran

som money for exit purposes. They have to sell property if they still

have it and usually they come out without a penny and on the border,

they are stripped from their clothes and sometimes they appear in

1

their underwear.

It is very difficult to say how the Chinese authorities operate when

they change their minds. Sometimes they let some 300 people at once,

sometimes nobody.

The most difficult question here is that the exit permit, which is

usually bought for a special price, because the Russians have to pay

a certain " donation," in quotes, to the Society of Soviet Citizens, also

to pay to Chinese authorities some " donation ” for specific plans of

the government. Then they wait only 1 year. The difficulty comes

when they are not able to leave the country, China, within 1 year,

they lose their permit and have to start all over again .

Senator FONG. Any questions, Mr. Johnson ?

Mr. JOHNSON. No.

Mr. DE HAAN . Mr. Chairman, I have a couple of questions. Mr.

Bagration, would you say the United Nations High Commissioner for?

Refugees has underestimated the number of Russians still in China

I believe he gives a figure of some 3,800 .

Mr. BAGRATION. Most official figures are in the report of the Special

Subcommittee of the House presented by Congressman Walter.

There is a figure here of, as of June 30, 1961. They give a figure of

16,459 White Russians that have been resettled from HongKong,

They mention that it is estimated that 7,104 White Russians are still

in China, of which 4,708 are visa holders and 2,461 are non visa holders,

Now, recently, Ilia Tolstoy, vice president of the Tolstoy Founda

tion was in Hong Kong. He gave three different figures, emanating

from three different sources, varying from 1,000 to 8,000.

So nobody knows how many there are .

There was a letter received 3 months ago from Archbishop Sava,

the Orthodox archbishop of Australia, who mentions a group of

White Russians, he mentions 1,000 families with many children. This

is only partof the group.

Mr. DE HAAN. I was not quoting figures from the report of Con

gressman Walter's House committee, but from the report of the High

Commissioner to the meeting of his executive committee last month

afar more recent report. Do you believe the program of the U.N.

High Commissioner can be closed out in 1963, as is planned at the

present time ?

Mr. BAGRATION. I doubt it very much, because the High Commis

sioner program is to give protection and assistance for those who

come out. It would not include those who are still in China, of course.

The program would still be continued , because they will be coming

all the time.

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Mr. DE HAAN. As I understand it, the High Commissioner has

indicated all the Russians, including those not currently possessing

exit permits, will have left the mainland, and will have been re

settled by the end of 1963.

Mr. BAGRATION. That was the program in 1959.

Mr. DE HAAN. I am referring here, to the report of the High Com

missioner, which I mentioned a moment ago. The facts would indi

cate steady progress is being made in the High Commissioner's pro

gram .

Mr. BAGRATION. I am not aware of that, but there was a program

proposed by the Intergovernmental Committee for European Migra

tion and by the High Commissioner . It depends on the money

available.

Senator Fong. I have a statement here from Paul Empie, executive

director of the National Lutheran Council . He is unable to be here.

His statement will be incorporated in the record .

( The statement referred to is as follows :)

STATEMENT OF DR. PAUL C. EMPIE

NATIONAL LUTHERAN COUNCIL,

New York , N.Y. , June 5 , 1962.

Senator PHILIP A. HART,

Chairman , Subcommittee on Refugees and Escapees of the Senate Judiciary

Committee, U.S. Senate, Washington , D.C.

DEAR MR. CHAIRMAN : I regret that prior obligations make it impossible for

me to appear in person before your subcommittee which is presently conducting

hearings on the adequacy of present relief programs for Chinese refugees, and

which is gathering information on the possibility of the resettlement of some

of these refugees in various parts of the world, including the United States.

Permit me to state that I am the executive director of the National Lutheran

Council ; the Chairinan of the Commission on World Service of the Lutheran

World Federation ; an officer of Lutheran World Relief ; and have acted as an

adviser to Lutheran Refugee Service, now known as Lutheran Immigration

Service. Represented in one or more of these agencies are seven Lutheran

Churches in America, with a combined membership of about 8 million souls, and

61 Lutheran Churches in 32 countries around the world. These churches have

long expressed a deep concern for Chinese refugees and have supported relief

programs for them in Hong Kong for a number of years.

In view of the close relationship I have had with the refugee problems in

Hong Kong, I would have welcomed an opportunity to discuss various aspects

of the present Chinese refugee program . Inasmuch as this is not appropriate

at these present hearings, I shall merely submit for your records a statement

released by Lutheran Immigration Service, an agency of the National Lutheran

Council and the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod, which indicates our response

to the announcement of the President that the United States will admit several

thousand Chinese refugees.

Needless to say , we welcomed the forthright constructive action taken by the

President of the United States and trust that it signifies a continuing sense of re

sponsibility to help in this situation as the resources of our Nation permit.

The statement mentioned above reads as follows :

"The Lutheran churches have long exhibited a deep concern for Chinese

refugees and have maintained a broad and intensive relief program for these

refugees in Hong Kong. Since the beginning of this program in 1954, they have

been disturbed about the limitations within the Colony to reestablish these refu

gees as self -supporting individuals and family units. They have long recog

nized that resettlement outside of the Colony is a primary and urgent need . Thus,

in view of the reluctance of other nations to accept these refugees for resettle

ment within their borders, they have been sympathetic to the problems faced by

the Hong Kong Government in admitting new refugees. Lutheran Immigra

tion Service, therefore, was deeply gratified by the announcenient of the Presi

dent to admit several thousand Chinese refugees into the United States. This

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was a significant decision and it is hoped that other nations will follow this

lead taken by the United States, and also agree to accept Chinese refugees for

resettlement within their borders.

" As a result of the President's announcement, and in view of the heavy com

mitments of the Lutheran churches in relief programs within the Colony, LIS is

planning to cooperate in assisting with the resettlement of these refugees in the

United States. The extent of LIS participation will be determined after there

has been further consultation with the government, the LWF offices in Hong

Kong and Geneva, and the Lutheran church bodies in the United States.

“The Lutheran churches are presently maintaining a large-scale relief program

in Hong Kong for Chinese refugees which includes the distribution of food and

clothing, the maintenance of medical and dental facilities, a vocational training

program , and a program for the rehabilitation of handicapped and tubercular

cases . They also maintain a program of self -help which has made possible the

development of small handicraft industries, and a student-aid program , in ad

dition to other projects which are designed to assist the refugee become self

supporting .”

Sincerely yours,

PAUL C. EMPIE, Executive Director.

Senator FONG. We have concluded with our witness list. The sub M

committee stands recessed until tomorrow at 11.

Thereupon, at 4 p.m., the subcommittee recessed to resume Fri

day , June 8 , 1962,at 11 a.m. )

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

FRIDAY, JUNE 8, 1962

U.S. SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON REFUGEES AND ESCAPEES,

COMMITTEE ON TWashington, D.C.

The subcommittee met , pursuant to recess, at 11 a.m., in room 318,

Old Senate Office Building, Senator Philip A. Hart ( chairman of

the subcommittee ) presiding.

Present: Senators Hart ( chairman of the subcommittee ), Wiley,

and Dirksen .

Also present : Curtis E. Johnson, staff director ; Dale S. de Haan,

research consultant ; Carl Ziemba, committee counsel; and Earl Nishi

mura , minority counsel.

Senator HART. The committee will be in order.

This continues the taking of testimony on the problem of the Chi

nese refugee in Hong Kong.

Of all the refugee problems across the world to which this sub

committee has given some study, the problem in Hong Kong seems to

be the most difficult.

The enormity of its present proportion, and its potential for even

greater dimensions, tends to create an attitude of hopelessness, and

even despair, among many of those who have sought a solution . Then

the recent massive flight of Chinese into Hong Kong, and their invol

untary enforced return to Red China, shocked the free world . In

cluded in the stock was the realization that this was a problem in

which all of us have a share, including those millions here who never

anticipate the day that they shall ever see Hong Kong.

The responsibility to assist in relief and rehabilitation, and to

kindle the spark of hope again in the hearts of those people who fled

from China, lies with all of us in this world we like to call the free

half.

Today we have with us a native Chinese and a distinguished Ameri

can who can speak knowingly of the great tragedy of Chinese refu

gees. She does it in her capacity as the president of Chinese Refugee

Relief, an organization which I think has effectively as any drama

tized and brought to the concern and conscience of America this refu

gee problem .

It is my understanding that she will be presented to the committee

by Senator Miller -- and Senator Tower also.

I see Mrs. Chennault is accompanied by two distinguished Mem

bers of the Senate. Senator Dirksen is an old hand at making difficult

decisions seem easy. Senator, do you want to suggest that they join

us here, or that they decide between themselves who shall have the

great pleasure of presenting Mrs. Chennault ?

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Senator DIRKSEN. I have one of these decision meters. You flip it,

and that makes the decision .

But senioritywise, II suppose Senator Miller would have first call to

present Mrs. Chennault, if he so desires, and Senator Tower can make

a presentation at the sametime.

Mr. Chairman , I might say, of course, that Mr. Miller served with 8

the Flying Tigers, the 14th Air Force, under Lieutenant General

Chennault, and that is a high distinction indeed. So I am glad to see

him , as a great Senator and as a great warrior for his country .

Senator HART. I have a strongimpression that, notwithstanding his 1

war record, it wouldn't cut any bait if the seniority were not there.

STATEMENT OF HON. JACK MILLER, A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE

STATE OF IOWA

Senator MILLER . Mr. Chairman , members of the committee, I divine

that the members of the committee already know about the splendid

background and knowledge of this truly great lady. As the dis 4

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tinguished Senator from Illinois pointed out, it wasmy privilege to

serve with General Chennault during World War II in China. I

know that General Chennault knew the dangers and the potential of 4

communism. As a matter of fact , one of the most memorable events

of my life was the day I stood in the compound in Chungking and

heard General Chennault give his farewell address to the Chinese

people before returning to the United States, during which address he

warned of the dangers of communism .

This great lady, the widow of the late distinguished General Chen 4

nault, will speak to this committee this morning with knowledge,

because she has lived with the Chinese people, she is of the Chinese

people, she has traveled extensively throughout China, and moreover ,

she has a deep and abiding intimate interest in the future of the

Chinese people.

It is with the greatest of pleasure that I present Mrs. Anna Chen

nault to the committee.

Senator Hart. The committee is delighted to have you. 1

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STATEMENT OF MRS. CLAIRE L. CHENNAULT

Mrs. CHENNAULT. Mr. Chairman and members of the committee,

I am Anna Chennault. I am an author. I am also a newspaper

woman ; I worked as a war correspondent in the Second World War.

I am the widow of Lt. Gen. Claire Lee Chennault who led the Flying

Tigers and the 14th Air Force in China. Today I speak as a citizen

of the United States.

My grandmother was born an American in Washington, D.C. My

mother and sister were born in America. Although I was born in

Peiping, I became an American when I married General Chennault.

It is therefore as one with close ties to both the United States and

China that I come heretoday to ask your consideration of the plight

of the refugees from Communist China in Hong Kong. I worked

closely with my husband when he was the symbol of deliverance to the

Chinese people from the cruelty of the Japanese. In a personal way,

I feel that I am now engaged in his unfinished business of delivering

the Chinese people from the cruelty of the Communists.

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I can tell you about the heart and mind of the refugee, for I

myself and my four sisters were refugees from the Japanese terror

in China during World War II. We were in Hong Kong when Pearl

Harbor was bombed .

I know the misery of physical privation of the homeless and the

emotionalprivationof the forgotten . When I think of the refugee

in Hong Kong, I can only pray “ There but for the grace of God

go I.”

I appear today as president of Chinese Refugee Relief. This is

a private committee formed with the approval of President Kennedy

to implement the sympathy of the American people for these refugees,

Associated with me in this committee, which was organized to seek

private funds for refugee relief, are Mr. David Lee, a prominent

Chinese -American businessman of Washington , D.C., and Mr. Jack

Anderson, awell-known Washington correspondent who , during

World War II, spent many months traveling in China with National

ist guerrillas.

I am proud to report to this committee that the honorary cochair

men of Chinese Refugee Relief are former President Harry Truman

and former President Herbert Hoover. I have talked to President

Hoover many, many times and I have seen him in New York very

recently and talked to him on this problem of Chinese Refugee Relief.

He showed great interest and has given me his advice.

President Hoover, who has had years of experience in China and

who was administrator of World War I relief in Belgium and Poland ;

the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Mr. John McCormack

of Massachusetts, has consented to serve on our advisory committee.

Two days ago I also had the honor of talking to the Speaker of the

House, Mr. McCormack .

Our organization does not appear before the Congress to give advice

to Government. It would be presumptuous on our part to advocate

any specific policy in viewof the global implications the Hong Kong

refugee problem evokes. We completely understand that many im

portant decisions of Government policy must be made, based onspecial

sources of information not necessarily within our knowledge . We are

therefore not here to urge action by Government or to prejudice your

considerations. We know that there are limitations to what the

United States or any other government can do, that it is folly to over

crowd the lifeboats.

Our organization does feel, however, that it can appropriately offer

all assistance within its means in a number of areas after policies are

determined . The refugee problem in Hong Kong is not a pretty

one, despite the heroic effort of the colony to deal with the problem .

other witnesses have told you of their physical misery. But for me,,

who has been a refugee, their most terrible misery is in the heart, for

the most vital need of men is hope, and the refugee goes to sleep fear

ing that the world has no room for him and that his future holds no

hope. But more than food, more than shelter, these good people need

hope, the hope of tomorrow .

And I am afraid they are going to need more and more hope. Mr.

Lee, who is here with me today , has just returned from a personal

inspection of conditions in Hong Kong. He has returned with the

alarming information that many of the refugees who flooded into

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Hong Kong in the past few weeks, many of whom were turned back

to mainland China, are primarily farmers fleeing what they sense

is the prospect of another crop failure in Red China this year. His

talks with authorities and refugees in Hong Kong have convinced him

that these people were attempting to escape a worsening famine on

the mainland, and that with the crop failure they expect this year

could come another later mass effort to flee Red China.

It is against this background that Chinese Refugee Relief was

formed with the encouragement of President Kennedy, with whom I

met on June 2. Our purpose is to raise private funds by public

solicitation to help implement the ultimate decisions of the United

States and the many other governments which are or will be con

cerned. We want to add " people to people " to " government to gov

ernment."

We can foresee many important tasks to be done by private organ

izations such as ours in helping to implement the policies of the west

toward the Hong Kong refugee problem . These would include :

Giving directassistance to refugees from Hong Kong — and perhaps

from Macao - once they are in the United States under procedures

established by law and public policies formulated by you after weigh

ing all of the factors involved .

In cooperation with existing international refugee organizations,

church and social welfare organizations aiding in the handling of

Chinese orphan children to be brought here for adoption in accord

ance with the plan announced by Attorney General Robert Kennedy

this week .

If possible, playing a direct role in the feeding and medical care

of refugees while they are in Hong Kong in accordance with the

policies ofthe governments concerned .

Assisting in the resettlement of refugees in other countries which

may express a willingness to take them in .

I must emphasize that Chinese Refugee Relief does not see this

problem as one which can be successfully handled by any one organi

zation . There are many roles to be played together in this effort.

Therefore, Chinese Refugee Relief stands ready and willing, for the

common good, to cooperate fully with all recognized refugee agencies ;

the many experienced church organizations; and the social welfare

agencies, allof whom play primary parts in this program . But

Chinese Refugee Relief is, we believe,well qualified by its composition

to play an effective, realistic role as a private agency gearedto help

implement decisions you will make.

In your consideration I hope you will share our feelings on several

points webelieve are essential to public understanding of this problem .

1. The problem did not end when the Red Chinese again sealed the

border to the stream of refugees who saw in Hong Kong a new chance

for freedom and a better life. Almost all of the present refugees in

Hong Kong entered the crown colony during the past 10 years in little

noticed but, nevertheless, highly dramatic and dangerous flights to

freedom .

2. These refugees, desperate as their need for food and the common

necessities of life is, want more than anything two things— freedom

and hope. If the events of the past few weeks have done anything,

they have served to rip aside the bamboo curtain, letting the world

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see for the first time the desperate faces of men , women , and children

who have lived under Communist rule .

Believing in America as they did during World War II, when there

was nothing else to believe in, and only the Flying Tigers from far

off America somehow brought deliverance from the bombs of the

Japanese, the refugees now in Hong Kong still look to America with

the same belief and trust . And we of our organization believe that

in its own interest, the United States, within the limitations you ap

preciate of what it safely can do,must keep alive that hope and belief

in the good will and power of the United States.

3. The American public should be fully informed of the status of

refugees who are now being admitted under the stepped -up program

of immigration recently announced by President Kennedy. The

refugees now beginning to enter the United States are those who have

been in Hong Kong for as long as 10 years. They are not those who

have just come over the border. Those who are now coming to the

United States have been fully cleared as to security by agencies of

the U.S. Government.

They represent the top level refugee group - businessmen, techni

cians, engineers, and others possessing specific skills. None of these

refugees are coming here to be a burden on our reliefagencies or to take

jobs from American workers. They have guarantees of employment

and livelihood provided to them by their Chinese - American relatives in

this country who have long helped to support them in Hong Kong.

Nor will the children of refugees represent a problem to their com

munities. We Chinese-Americans can point with pride to the fact

that because of the strong family bonds that characterize the Chinese

people, juvenile delinquency is almost unknown in Chinese-American

communities, and that Chinese-American citizens are not found on

American relief rolls.

Once this is understood, we believe that the American public will

recognize that these people will make a. lasting, worthwhile contribu

tion to their communities and the Nation.

4. Above all, and most important, II hope that whatever aid this

Government and the American people feel they can give will be given

to the refugees and not to the Communist masters of Red China. I

know there are some well-meaning individuals who believe that we

can best help the hungry people by putting grain into the hands of

the Red Chinese Communist Government. They do not realize that

this will consolidate the power of Red China in denying freedom to

its people. As one who has lived in the shadow of Chinese communism ,

this I beg you, under no circumstances to do such a thing. The

Chinese people have endured much more than starvation in the many

years that the madmen of Chinese communism have used them as the

pawns of power. Indeed, they have always been subjected to starva

tion by their Communist overlords - calculated, systematic starvation

so that their Communist masters could export food to Cuba, and wage

hot and cold war on the sons of the free world in Vietnam and Laos.

I know how many pressures there are on the U.S. Government to

solve the problem of sending food to help the hungry people in China .

It is the hardest task of statesmen to find answers to the complicated

problems of refugees looking for hope. But as Americans surely we

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give it away to friends rather than giving it to our enemies, and we

certainly want to help the hungry people in the free world , but cer

tainly not helping Red China, our enemy:

Ali it would do is to renew and reinforce the inhuman yoke of

communism over the helpless Chinese people.

And it would be madness from our American point of view. We

would be making the same mistake we made when, under the pressure

of scrap dealers, we shipped scrap iron to Japan before Pearl Harbor.

Such impossible appeasement would be shot back in our faces in

southeast Asia as it was shot back at Pearl Harbor and Korea. If I

speak out, it is because I have been a war correspondent during the

Second World War , and I was the wife of a serviceman . I lived

through war, and I lived through the killing of American boys by

the Chinese Communists. And please remember, we still have Åmer

icans as prisoners in Communist China.

I tell you that the people of China today, miserable as they are,

would rather face more starvation than to have America , in a mis

taken humanitarianism , add to the strength of their Communist

masters who hold them in a slavery from which they try to flee. I

note with bitterness that reports describing the situation at the Hong

Kong border inform us that Communist army guards are well fed ,

wellclothed, and well armed while they turn on and off like a faucet

the flow of refugees to serve the propaganda needs of the Communist

government in Peiping. Obviously, the Red Chinese Government

does not lack food for its own jailers .

What I am pleading for today is that my American people be real

istic in whom they help, that they concentrate their thoughts on

helping the refugees, not the Government of Red China ; that they

try to help human brothers who want to be free, not perpetuate their

slavery.

If I thought that we were only stirring the sympathies and the

warm heartsof the American people to take part in any program for

the Chinese people which would seduce this Nation into supporting

themastersof Chinese slavery, I would resign from any effort to help

in this problem .

I am sure President Hoover, with whom I have talked many times,

will agree with me.

5. Whatever is done to bring help from America to those without

hope should be accomplished as quickly and graciously as possible.

In thesimplest manner and with dignity show the sympathy and

understanding of the American people to fellow human beings in

distress who believe in you.

We have a saying in China that“ one picture is worth a thousand

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words.” In place of words, I introduce to you the first refugee family

to come to the United States under the emergency program . They

are Mr. Eng Se-Suey, his wife,his two daughters Mee-Har, 15, and

Me-Wan , 13, and a son, Leung-Hing, 10. I will be glad to serve as

their interpreter as they tell you what it means to be a refugee. And

you can hear from their own lips what they think about supplying

food to Red China.

I would like also to point out that, serving as interpreter, I speak

five dialects of the Chinese language. Mr. Eng is from Taishan.

Actually his name could be spelled four or five ways. In Taishan

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dialect it is E-n-g. In Cantonese it is E-n. And in Mandarin, it is

Wooit could be spelled W-u, or W-0-0.

So there are many ways to pronounce his name. But I just want

to qualify myself as interpreter.

Senator HART. Mrs. Chennault, before we hear this family whose

presence in this country all of us welcome, I know the committee

would have me thank you for a forthright and helpful statement.

Your willingness and that of Mr. Lee, whom I understand you to

say is present here today, and Mr. Anderson - if either of them care

to come up and make any additional comment, we would be glad to

have them .

But for your willingness to organize and assist in this effort, we

want to thank you.

There were many points you made in this statement concerning

which , I am sure, members of the committee and other Members of

the Senate who are here today might want to pursue by way of

questioning

I wouldhope that followingthe opportunity to visit, through you ,

with the Eng family, you would remain, in order that any of uswho

desire may have the opportunity to ask questions.

May I suggest to the Eng family that America is better for their

adding to our cultural bloodstream . And I hope you will assure the

family that all of us feel that way about them.

Would you inquire of them how long they have been in Hong

Kong waiting to come to the United States?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. May I ask Mr. Eng to sit beside me ?

Senator Hart. Yes, please.

STATEMENT OF ENG SE -SUEY, INTERPRETED BY MRS. CLAIRE L.

CHENNAULT

Mrs. CHENNAULT. Mr. Eng wants to express his appreciation for

all the assistance this country hasgiven him , and these other organiza

tions who help him to come into America . He is very happy and

very grateful that he comes to America, a free country , and he feels

like a different person . It was wonderful to leave the misery as a

refugee and comeinto this country as a free citizen.

Senator Hart. I hope you will give him the assurance that I indi

cated earlier, that he and his family are most certainly welcome.

Senator DIRKSEN. Mrs. Chennault, his father lives in Park Ridge,

Ill., as I understand.

Mrs. CHENNAULT. Yes.

Senator DIRKSEN . We sought to be helpful in this matter, when

some difficulties were encountered, in cabling and doing all the neces

sary things to expedite the Eng 'case. As I understand, his father

had been a businessman in Park Ridge for nearly 35 years and is

presently the victim of cancer, and may not live very long.

We are grateful, indeed , that we could be of some service in bring

ing them over. And I think I should make some statement regard

ing an attorney in Chicago named Lowell Jacobson , who lives in

Park Ridge, who knows the father, Frank Eng, very well, and who

made some real effort in order to expedite action. I think he ought

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to be congratulated on his efforts and on his compassion and interest

in the matter.

Mrs. CHENNAULT. Mr. Eng wants to express that today he is in this

country, and still has the opportunity to see his ailing father with

cancer. It is all the good deed of this country, and all the great

friends, and of course Senator Dirksen, from Illinois, giving him all

the assistance, to enable him to come to this country and realize his

dream . And he will never forget. And he also wants to express that

his family and his children are growing up as Americans, and be good

citizens to this country .

Senator Hart. Now, Mrs. Chennault, would you inquire when he

first sought to come to this country ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. He left Communist China in 1953.

Senator HART. And went to Hong Kong, I takeit.

Mrs. CHENNAULT. He left Canton, and went to Hong Kong.

Senator Hart. Now, when , after he got to Hong Kong, did he first

ask to come to the United States ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. He started requesting to come into this country,

starting the procedure in 1955.

Senator Hart. In 1955 you made application .

Mrs. CHENNAULT. That is correct.

Senator Hart. It is now 1962.

Mrs. CHENNAULT. Yes, 7 years .

Senator Hart. And it is correct, is it not, the reason he was able to

come in now is because of the dramatic influx from Red China to

Hong Kong in May of this year ? It was because of this that the parole

method was developed, or applied, I should say, by the President.

Isn't it true that because of the dramatic flow of refugees into

Hong Kong last month, Mr. Eng now has been permitted to come here ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. You are correct. He said if not because of the

emergency law , he still wouldn't be here today. And because of the

small quotas of allowing Chinese into this country, many, many

Chinese refugees are still waiting, and there is a long, long list of Chi

nese waitingto come into this country . I think he mentioned 100

being allowed to come into this country every year.

Senator HART. To be exact, for therecord, this country, under its

basic immigration laws, has concluded it has room on a regular basis

for only 105 Chinese a year.

Now,I think that the more people in this country see the Engs and

families like them , the greater the opportunity will develop for under

standing and appreciating the need to improve the immigration atti

tude inthis country.

A couple of weeks ago the President of the United States and

Mrs. Kennedy had as dinner guests at the White House the American

winners of the Nobel Prizes. I know Mrs. Chennault knows the event

to be a very dramatic incident. It just happens that 15 of the Presi

dent's guests were not born in America. But we need these people.

We are the better because they are here. I agree with your statement

that we cannot overcrowd the lifeboat. But we had better make sure

that our response to the hopes and the aspirations of the rest of the

world is consistent with what we preach and for what we stand.

I am sure your presence here serves to remind the conscience of

America about this point, and we are the richer for having you.

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Senator Wiley has joined us, and it is possible that Senator Wiley

would have a comment.

Senator WILEY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have one or two

questions, that don't relate themselves so much to the matter of what

we are discussing here. But in view of the fact that the witness

escaped from Red China into Hong Kong in 1953, I presume that he

alsovisited back and forth into Red China, made contact with people

who kept coming into Hong Kong. So my question is what percentage

of the Chinese people are Communist ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. The percentage of Communists is very , very

small. In fact he said most of the Chinese people, the simple Chinese

people, they only want to have enough food, enough clothes for the

family. But under the Communist control, they haveno choice but

do whatever the Communist regime wants them to do. But those who

have escaped , actually, they are all against the Communists, and those

many who remain in China that could not escape, they actually have

no free choice, but to life under communism .

Senator WILEY. How does Mao Tse -tung maintain the control that

he has over 500 million Chinese ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. Mao Tse -tung controls the country with secret

police — by fear and suspicion. And each little village had a Com

munist worker to organize the people, and make them suspicious of

each other, and they all live in fear,and no one dared to say anything

because you might get killed.

Senator WILEY. Could you tell me how close Mao Tse-tung and

Khrushchev operate !

Mrs. CHENNAULT. The Chinese Communists actually need the sup

port and help from Khrushchev, from Russia. And they have to

cooperate and work together. He also mentioned that there wouldn't

be any way to dividethese two forces. They sort of lean on each

other, and they will always work together.

Senator WILEY. Are the Chinese under Mao Tse -tung investigating

the creation of modern weapons, such as bombs and the interconti

nental ballistic missiles ? Have they got scientists engaged in that ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. The Russians help the Chinese Communists only

to a limitation . They don't give them too much, because they also are

suspicious of the Chinese, and they are afraid they will get too

powerful and too strong. So they help them in light industry and

machines and so on. But as faras atomic bombs and other things

like that, the Russians have not given the Chinese too much help, be

cause they are always sort of careful not to give them too much , so

they would turn against the Russians.

Senator Wiley. In other words, what the witness means, as I get it,

is that Russia has not been willing to give Mao Tse -tung the know

how, or give to Mao Tse -tung the weapons, is that right ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT . That is correct.

Senator WILEY. Is this immigration of Chinese confined to Hong

Kong, or is it pushing out in other directions, toward India, and

maybe into Siberia ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. Most of—actually 100 percent of the refugees

are going to Hong Kong.

Senator WILEY. Would you repeat that !

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Mrs. CHENNAULT. Most of the refugees, he said, almost 100 percent,

go to Hong Kong. He hasn't heardof any refugees going to India

or Siberia .

Senator WILEY. What about Chiang Kai-shek's offer to take some

into Formosa ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. The Chinese Nationalist Government have been

very helpful to try to help some ofthe refugees togo toTaiwan. But

he feels that Taiwan is also a small area that will not be able to take

care of as many refugees as they want to do. And so he feels that

even the Taiwan Government will need help to solve the refugee

problem .

Senator WILEY. One concluding question.

What is the judgment of the witness as to how the Chinese feels

toward Chiang Kai-shek — that is, how the Chinese in China feel

toward Chiang Kai-shek.

Mrs. CHENNAULT. He said all the Chinese are for President Chiang,

especially, he said, in Hong Kong. The first of the yearthey celebrate

October 1, which is the national day for Communist China , and Octo

ber 10 is the celebration of the national day for Nationalist China.

And most of the Chinese in Hong Kong now, they always celebrate

October 10 ; in other words, to show theirsupport of Nationalist China.

Senator WILEY. I am sure, but I have another question which you

provoked by that answer.

Is it your judgment — and I might ask you , madam — is his judg

ment that if there should be an invasion of China, that the Chinese

would respond to the appeal of Chiang and fight on his side ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT ( speaking on her own behalf). I do think so. I

have been making trips back to the Far East every year, and my

husband started an airline in the Far East, and it is still operating:

I have talked to people of all classes. And the feeling is now for

the Nationalist Government to go back to mainland China.

Senator Wiley. Well, is it your judgment that this pushout, then,

is due to the lack of proper nourishment or food, that people want to

leave ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. As I point out in my statement, I thinkpeople

not only want food, but freedom . In the earlyyears,many Chinese,

when the Communists first came in, they thought, well, they are just

Chinese — and I also point out most of the Chinese arefarmers, they

have no political ideas, as long as they are being left alone, have the

land to farm—if they are happy, theycan feed their family, they will

be all right.

But even to this basic thing, they do not get from communism .

And I think this is the reason that many Chinese refugees leave China.

The famine in China, of course, in a way is manmade. Most of the

farmers have the feeling, “ why shouldwe work so hard, when we don't

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get anything in return ?” The food they produce will be used to buy

arms— and they do not have enough food to eat, and they are not able

to take care of their family. And most of all, they have no freedom .

And that is why I think many refugees risk their life to escape to Hong

Kong, even they know there will be no place for them, there will be no

food, no jobs, and no security, and no hope. And yet they try to

escape from communism , hoping they will be free and there will be

some hope for them to look for a brighter tomorrow .

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Senator WILEY. Is there any way to get that food to the people

withoutletting Mao Tse-tung handleit ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. This isa question I think is really calling for

much serious study. I don't see how we could send food toRed

China, and yet not to let the food fall into the hands of the Communist

government. We are interested in helping the hungry people. But

we certainly do not want to help our enemy.

SenatorWILEY. Mr. Chairman, I wantto say that it has been a high

privilege for me to sit here this morning and see this fine American

citizen , Mrs. Chennault. We know what contribution she has made,

what contribution her husband has made. I will agree with your

sentiment that we are practically all of us sons of foreigners. And we

can use

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more of this quality stuff in America.

I ank you .

Senator DIRKSEN. Well, Mrs. Chennault, I just want to say that

was an impressivestatement you made to the committee this morning,

and I am delighted to see you here.

Senator HART. Before we leave, Mrs. Chennault - I leafed through

your statement and got the impression you were cautioning us, that

although a bamboo curtain is up in Asia, and Hong Kong has closed

the door, so to speak, that nonetheless, we should anticipate new in

fluxes of people at anytime. Is thatcorrect ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. I do think so . So this is not a problem just for

today. This is aa problem for many tomorrows to come. And this is a

job that no one agency can do alone. And I think it calls for lots of

help and study on this problem , and to help these people who escape

from Communist China .

Senator HART. Well, in view of the fact that this flood of refugees

may descend upon Hong Kong again at any moment, do you have any

suggestions as to what the government of the crown colony should be

doing, and what we should be doing to help them ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. In my statements, of course, I have pointed out

that now that thereare over 11/2 million refugees in Hong Kong,

they need food, shelter, and clothes. When wintertime comes they

will need clothes. And also of course Mr. Eng was just telling me

there is a water shortage in Hong Kong, which I think many other

witnesses have mentioned, and so this is not just how to give food to

the refugees, but the resettlement of these refugees that calls for fur

ther study. And of course any help and assistance we give to the

refugees will need funds. This is the time to call for the public, the

more fortunate people, to help the less fortunate people . I think that

every organization doing relief work should now get together and

try to work together and help the people and work with the Hong

Kong Government to solve the problems, the best we know how.

This is a wonderful thing that this country has tried to admitmore

refugees. But this is just аa drop of water in the bucket, as the Presi

dent said .

The biggest problem is how to help the refugees in Hong Kong, to

give him a new life, andgive them work and self-support and not just

sending them food to feed them. This is my own opinion on this

problem .

Senator HART. Now, to put the question bluntly, if 50,000 or 100,000

Chinese seek freedom , should the door be closed at Hong Kong ?

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Should we, in effect, or should the crown colony Government, stop the

entry of these thousands of refugees ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. Of course, you have heard reports that many

refugees were turned back to the mainland. And of course werealize

the problems that the Hong Kong Government have to face. That is

why many concerned have suggested that we should think of a way

to transfer these refugees to maybe some other countries who will

accept them , and maybe have a place for them . And have work for

them .

Certainly this is not a problem that the Hong Kong Government

could handle alone. Of course, the gate, shall we say, to freedom

should not be closed to the people who wish to be free.

Senator Hart. And if it is simply overwhelming the resources of

Hong Kong, and if the crown colony has done all that a man reason

ablycan be expected to do to permit the door to stay open , but it is

still not enough, then your message, I take it, is that we and other free

people must do more ?

Mrs. CHENNAULT. I do think so.

Senator Hart. Specifically to assist.

Mrs. CHENNAULT. Yes. Not just we Americans, but I think many

other free countries have the responsibility to show the people that

we, as free countries, want to help them and give them hope.

Senator Hart. Now, to a question that Senator Wiley asked , and

which you said presents an extremely difficult problem — the business

of food for the people of China, Red China .

You know , under our program, an American family cannot even

send a parcel of food to a family in Red China.

Now , would you object to that being changed ?

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Mrs. CHENNAULT. No. As an American citizen, and many years

working with my husband, General Chennault, fighting communism ,

my feeling would be any food sent to Red China will not be delivered

to the hungry people, butto feed maybe the army and actually the

Communists who had killed our American boys and keep many Ameri

cans in prison .

In answering this question , Mr. Chairman,if you would permit me,

I would like to call my very close friends and my husband's associate,

Mr. Corcoran. I think he has dealt with this problem , and also

worked with my husband very closely. If you will permit me, I would

like to ask Mr. Corcoran to help me in answering this question. May I ?

Senator HART. The committee would welcome Mr. Corcoran now ,

or, if he would prefer, he may file a statement.

Many in the audience may wonder if this is the Tommy Corcoran

about whom they have read so long. I want to assure them he is.

The committee welcomes him .

STATEMENT OF THOMAS CORCORAN

Mr. CORCORAN . Mr. Chairman , I would be glad to tell you what I

think about this food to Red China problem .

It happened that after the war I was rather intimately associated

with General Chennault's attempt to help UNRRA provide relief

food and medicine to China, then under the Nationalist Government.

General Chennault formed his airline in the attempt to move inland

the food from the United States and the medicine from the United

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States that was piling on the docks of Shanghai, which was then the

port of entry, Canton was another port of entry, and to try to get it

through the redtape of the then local government bureaucracy, which

was then trying to play ball thebest it could, to the starving millions

in China, when after the war all transportation had been eliminated,

and people actually were starving and dying from lack of medicine

in the interior of China.

I worked intimately with that problem for several years, as an

associate of the general.

What always impressed me was that although the American Gov

ernment put its very best into that relief problem , it simply could

not manage the control of either the medicine or the food . Two citi

zens of such eminence as Fiorello LaGuardia , as the head ofUNRRA,

and Herbert Lehman , as the head of UNRRA, tried their best to see

that there was some kind of international control of this food , and

UNRRA, as you remember, was an international distribution.

Now, earlier President Hoover had faced this problem , after World

War I, in Poland. And even at that time the desperation of the

Communists was such that even Lenin permitted Hoover to move in

all -American relief teams, and a great many men of my generation

were in thoserelief teams,who actually in asense took over the coun

try territorially, as far as the distribution of American supplies were

concerned , and themselves made sure that Americans handed out the

food , handed out the medicine, and saw to it that the American Gov

ernment got credit for it. And it has always been amazing to me

that Lenin himself permitted that to be done.

Now , when we went into this international problem , in UNRRA,

where the food and the medicine were handled on an international

basis, we first found it inevitable that every other country had its own

problems with China, and in relationship to China. And it was in

escapable that as, in the situation that we found ourselves in in the

Congo, that everybody had his own motives in going into that inter

national effort, and unquestionably shading the disposition of the

material we gave them , inevitably, for their particular national

interest.

We had a great deal of trouble with UNRRA in Shanghai in par

ticular. And there was another associate of General Chennault, a

man named Whiting Willaver, who for many years has been an

Ambassador of the United States, who at thattime was the foreign

economic administrator for the United States in nonoccupied Asia ,

that is, the countries into which we did not send our troops of occupa

tion. He tried desperately to wrestle with the problem . And Chen

nault tried desperately to wrestle with the problem . So that you had ,

I would say , four of the ablest American servants who ever tried to

see to it that the American Government's purposes in distributing that

food and medicine were carried out. But they couldn't handle it in

China for very practical, concrete reasons.

You try yourself to conceive what happens when a shipload of food

or a shipload of medicine arrives at a dock in Shanghai. The food is

put into a godown. Who polices the godown ? You couldn't send

the U.S. Army to police the godown. You can't send American

troops to policethe godown.

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Even with a friendly government which was doing its best, in the

case of the Chinese Nationalist Government, there are elements in the

Chinese Nationalist Government who were playing their own game.

The food was simply stolen from the warehouse. How are you going

to prevent the food not being stolen from the warehouse. You can't

putour own Army in.

Then over territory as great as China is, you had enormous problems

of distribution from the importation to the interior. How does it get

into the interior? It gets into the interior over modes of transporta

tion like railroads — there were none in China in our day — or it gets in

on men's backs, or up the river on river boats, or in our case it gets in

over an airline. But who now controls the airline, who controls the

railroad ?

Now, suppose you are sitting in a country that is short of food .

Although in a good many cases, for the purpose of this deliberate

Communist Chinese effort,the food shortageisto some degree unreal,

you can't help but notice that the food is being exported all the time

from Communist China, as the only thing it has to send out into the

world, to buy foreign exchange, for instance, to get itself arms from

Russia, toget itself machinery partsfrom Russia. The Russians have

deliberately exported from the Chinese, at whatever cost of starvation

to the Chinese peasant, whatever was necessary, as you know they

have done with the Cubans. They have always got a bigger deal for

what they send in than any other trader ever got in thisworld . The

Russians have been taking food out of China regularly, despite the

food shortages, for years, as the price of their contribution .

Now , do you think that at the present time the desperation of the

Chinese Communist economy, that the Chinese Communist govern

ment, whose police will be around the godowns, whose police will con

trol the river boats, whose police will control the railroad transporta

tion, whose police will control the airlines, and whose agents will

necessarily control the distribution at any other points than the im

mediate point of disembarkation - because you haven't enough people

to send over theenormous territory of Chinato do the administrating.

Do you think that government isn't going to take that food , and in

substance say to the people who are atits mercy, " you play ball with

us, you eat and you have medicine. You don't play ball with us and

you don't eat and you don't have medicine .”

Now , you can put it down, out of our own experience, even with

the government that was not as ruthless as this one, we could not con

trol the swiping of the food, the management of the food for govern

ment purposes through what was alleged to be the black marketopera

tor, but he was often an agent of some portion of the government.

Even with the best men wehad to give inthe United States, with the

enormous power that we then had available, we couldn't manage it.

So that as far as putting food in in large quantities, by government

agencies, there is no question that you run a 99 percentrisk that this

would become an instrument of the power of the minority who, as this

witness has testified, control a majority of the people inChina today:

Now, then , President Hoover in a certain sense has understood and

has suggested that it might be possible, in order to show the world that

we meant to be humane, to propose that as nearly as possible the an

alogy to what he did in Poland might be recreated.

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That is, you might say — we do not try, because we know that over

the geographical vastness of China it isimpossible for us not to give

food to a government which will control it and make it an instrument

of policy. It might be possible that around the port areas, for in

stance, or at the Kowloon border, north of Hong Kong

you give us an area and you get out, and we will ourselves set up the administra

tion , as Hoover did in Poland, after the war, of a dispensing mechanism , that at

least for the people who can reach that area will have their food and their

medicine from American administrators, who will make it perfectly clear to the

world that America is being humane, but America is not being a “ patsy ” and hand

ing it to people who at the same time are keeping internal pressure on American

boys in Vietnam and Thailand and everywhere else and without breaking the

heart of those people in Asia , like Vietnam and Thailand, you are trying to hold

in line by saying America is being a “ chump " again, it is going to make the same

mistake it made about the agrarian reformers, it has not learned its lesson.

And we in Thailand and Vietnam now assume that the internal pressure on us

from the Chinese Communists is going to be fueled by America .

Now , if it were possible, Mr. Chairman, to say to the Chinese Com

munists , and to prove it, that “we will clear an enclave for you, and

we will feed, with obvious American administration , around Kowloon,

or around Shanghai, those who can reach it, and you will keep out,

and as far as we are concerned, this is like Hoover's Poland, our

show ” -then you could be sure whatyou would do.

But may I suggest another thing ! Just as in UNRRA , we ran into

this problem of the complication of the particular relati

that

ons of other

nations toward Communist China. I would not say do

you could

this internationally. After all, we learned in the Congo that in an in

ternational effort of this kind of scope, every nation has its own game

to play. And if you tried to do again, on an international basis, a

food relief job in China, and try to do it the same way you tried to

do it in the Congo, you would get into the same cross-purposes you got

into in the Congo.

Now, I come back to your specific question - sending food relief

parcels to individuals in China. I don't know how much could be

sent that way. I understand that there is some portion of the food

parcels that have been sent by refugees in Hong Kong back to their

relatives that get through. I would not assume, when there is a short

age, that the recipient of the parcel can get it all. You can't believe

that either. If a parcel of food addressed to a particular person

lands in a particular town, and lands through government instrumen

talities of transportation, which at least make it certain that every

body in the town knows that the recipient has received the parcel , I

don't believe you can assume that it isn't divided, nor that the govern

ment doesn't, for its purposes, see to it that a portion of the division

goes to the favored of the government in that town. Nevertheless,

they would have to give some portion of it or the transmission would

not continue. That is, you might get 5 percentof the parcel through

to the recipient of the parcel. Maybe you could do that as a humani

tarian gesture, but it couldn't amount to anything like the enormous

government grants of food. Some portion of the food might get

through . But you don't fool yourself, neither as to the quantity of it.

nor as to the percentage of anything that is of value.

And as to whether the Chinese Communist Government would ever

face up to letting you really be sure Americans control the distribu

tion, I don't know . I can't believe they would.

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But to look it square in the eye, Mr. Chairman , shipping food into

the territory of any strong government, particularly a government

carrying theterritorial strength of aa thing like China, cannot possibly

become but 99 percent the instrument of power of the government,

because on the experience of UNRRA , and the enormity of China, and

in the particular power of this Communist government over China,

the administrators are not available to the American Government to

do under these, circumstances what men of the stature of LaGuardia

and Herbert Lehman and Chennault and Willow could not do.

I think it is utterly unrealistic to think that there is any way of

guarding this thing so that 99 percent of the operable political value

of that food won't come under the control of whoever is the master

of territorial China.

Senator Hart. Let me raise this as a possibility down the road . If

there is, in fact, starvation on a massive scale in China, would it be

your judgment that except for energetic work on the part of the free

countries to find ways of establishing Chinese relief for those trying

to escape this starvation, that we would say, swell, the starvation

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is on a scale never known to modern man, but we," for the reasons

you have described , "simply cannotpermit this food surplus of ours

to be used in a shipment of food to Red China ?" I am just trying to

test down the road.

Mr. CORCORAN. Well, Mr. Chairman, there are two things you have

to realize about these Communist countries that are trying to indus

trialize.

Starvation is a. deliberate policy. It is guns insteadof butter, with

all of these Communist countries. The Russians deliberately starve

their people in order to industrialize, and to acquire military power.

The Chinese Communists are doing it right now, and are going to

continue to do it right now. So starvation becomes to that degree an

instrument of policy. This is a guns rather than butter policy.

No matter how much you pourin, you understand thatinsofar as it

is under the control of the Government, it might just as well be sent

to Soviet Russia for atom bombs and machinery than given to the

people.

So as longas that policy exists in a Communist country, you can

not decide. I mean as long as they persist in that policy, all deuces

are wild.

Now , then, you get to the next problem .

In relation to this particular country, you do have a problem that

substantially you are in cold war with them right now. And it is

not so much what happens to you as what happens to people that you

aretrying to hold in an alliance with you.

Suppose, for instance, you have sent troops into Thailand, you have

sent troops into Thailand to tell them you are going to try to keep

them free - you have made that decision . Now , what do you think

the effect is — why did you send troops into Thailand ? You sent

troops into Thailand because they are worried about what is happen

ing in Laos, and so you had to send troops into Thailand, as I under

stand from what I read in the papers, in order to keep the Thai

determined to be free. The Thai know that the Chinese are after

them sooner or later anyway. So do the people of Vietnam.

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Now , suppose allof a sudden , in order to save your humanitarian

heart, the Thai and the Vietnamese understand that you are going,

in substance, to finance the Chinese in their ultimate aims of aggres

sion against Thailand and Vietnam — their reunion in the ancient

Chinese empire,in which the Chinese Communists regard them , as

they did with Tibet and Nepal. What do you think is going to bethe

effect on the Thai? In substance you are arming the Chinese Army.

And then what do you do in Thailand and Vietnam ?

Now, as I say, this is a problem , as somebody said, whether a gov

ernment with humanitarian intentions can be moral and political at

the same time.

There is no answer to your dilemma. You cannot afford to risk

your safety for the warmth of your heart.

There is a way in which you can prove to the world that you would

be willing to. And one of those is as has been suggested. Say

frankly to the Chinese Communist Government, " Wearewilling to

feed hungry people so long as we can keep the food for the hungry

people in ourown control, and not as an aid to youin your aggressive

purposes or your propaganda purposes to the south . Moreover, give

us a free area in Shanghai, don't make us trust an international com

mission whichyou can threaten if India is on it, or you can threaten

if someother European power is in on it, to play your game. Move

over, let us put another relief mission in ." And we say to the world,

and before the world opinion “ yes, we will help , prudently, Wewill

help if we are sure who is going to be helped . We will help if we

are sure this is not going to be used against people whom we have

urged to stand fast against this thing, and say to them , yes, move over,

give us a place to stand, give us 200 square miles north of the Kow

loon border, we will feed everyone who comes and give medicine to

those who come, but thereis none to go back. Give us this free part

around the area of Shanghai; we will do this.” And we say this to

the world and we mean it. But we are notgoing to be pious patsys.

Senator Hart. I am very glad Mrs. Chennault persuaded you to

give us theseviews, because they arevoiced against a background that

I know is full, and they certainly will be helpful.

Mr. CORCORAN . Mr. Chairman, I am very appreciative of the chance

to do it. I have been wrestling with these Chinese problems since

the year before Pearl Harbor. And I am afraid I never take my

sentries down when I am dealing with the Communist Chinese.

Senator HART. Mr. Johnson .

Mr. JOHNSON . No questions.

Senator HART. Are there any questions from the staff ?

Mrs. Chennault, again, we have enjoyed having you . We salute

you for the leadership you are giving in the effort to assist a prob

lem which is, I think, on the conscience of many more people today

than yesterday, and certainly that was on their conscience6 weeks ago

This committee is very grateful to you, and to those associated with

you , particularly Mr. Anderson and Mr. Lee .

Mrs. CHENNAULT. Thank you. I feel it is my duty as an American

citizen to do what I can for this country, and for the people who are

less fortunate than we are.

Senator HART. I think I ought to note for the record the contribu

tions that have been made, not alone in the effort to relieve human

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misery in Hong Kong, but across the world, by American voluntary

agencies is a chapter that would thrill every American and fill them

with pride. It is a chapter of which very few people are aware. It

is something that a person ought to look at when he feels that some

how or other America is not responding fully to humanity's needs

elsewhere.

Mrs. CHENNAULT. We certainly need everyone's help .

Mr. Eng has just presented me with a check of $ 20 to the Chinese

refugee relief. He just told me, even he himself, a refugee, and

they do not have much money. But he feels that he is now in this

country, he is more fortunate than the rest, and he wants to do what

ever he can. And he has presented a check of $ 20 in helping Chinese

Refugee Committee.

Senator Harr. Well, using that Chinese maxim that a picture is

better than words, I think that act is more eloquent than testimony.

Thank you very much.

Senator Tower, did you care to make any statement ?

Senator TOWER. No, thank you.

Senator HART. We are very glad you have spent the morning with

us. The committee is adjourned.

(Whereupon , at 12:30 p.m., the committee adjourned, subject to

the call of the Chair. )

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

THURSDAY, JUNE 28, 1962

U.S. SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON REFUGEES AND ESCAPEES

OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY ,

Washington, D.O.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to recess, at 2 p.m., in room 357,

Old Senate Office Building, Senator Philip A. Hart ( chairman of the

subcommittee ) presiding.

Present : Senators Hart (chairman of the subcommittee ), and

Fong.

Also present : Curtis E. Johnson , staff director ; Dale S. De Haan,

research consultant, and Earl Nishimura, minority counsel.

Senator HART. The committee will be in order.

We resume hearings today on the Chinese refugee problem in

Hong Kong

Already we have received testimony from State Department offi

cials concerned with this problem, and representatives of various vol

untary agencies which have programs in the crown colony.

As I pointed out to the Senate on June 18, the recent heavy influx of

refugees into Hong Kong, served to highlight an already serious

refugee problem in this sensitive area of the world . The subcom

mittee has been actively concerned with the Hong Kong refugees and

this problem for several months. Events over the past few weeks,

however, have pointed up the urgency of the subcommittee's inquiry .

Since 1953 our Government has supplied over $30 million worthof

surplus agricultural commodities to American voluntary agencies for

distribution among needy persons in Hong Kong. We have expended

some $ 8,350,000 through our Far East refugee program.

This latter expenditureincludes aspecial contribution of $1 million

during World Refugee Year for the construction of a community

center, a children's reception center, a secondary school, and aa rehabil

itation center. Additional funds and energies to help alleviate the

situation in Hong Kong have come in substantial quantities from

private Americansources.

The subcommittee's hearings are addressed to the overall extent of

America's responsibility in the Hong Kong situation, the adequacy

and propriety of ourpresent program there,and otherpossible avenues

of approach to the long-term needs of the crown colony.

The subcommittee's inability to meet this morning because of a

special meeting ofthe full Judiciary Committeehas brought a change

in our schedule of witnesses. Mr. Herbert J. Waters, Assistant Ad

ministrator, Office of Material Resources of the Agency for Interna

tional Development, will not be able to appear at this time but will

be heard at a later date.

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We are fortunate in having with us today representatives of the

Lutheran Immigration Service and several Chinese - American com

munities in the United States.

I regret the inconvenience caused by the cancellation of this morn

ing's meeting, and the subcommittee appreciates your appearing this

afternoon ,

Senator Fong was engaged in the same meeting this morning that

took the subcommittee off the tracks." I am very grateful that he

adjusted an already upset schedule to join the subcommittee this after

noon. He has not only a long-term interest in refugee problems, but

a sensitive understanding of the problem with whichthe subcommittee

is currently engaged.

Senator Fong . Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am very happy to be

here to listen to the testimony.

Senator Hart. Mr. Donald Anderson, for the Lutheran Immigra

tion Service.

STATEMENT OF DONALD E. ANDERSON , DIRECTOR, LUTHERAN

IMMIGRATION SERVICE

Senator HART. I should indicate, both to Mr. Anderson and the

others who will follow—the prepared statements will be printed in full

and as submitted in the record. It is completely within the discretion

of the witness whether toread the statement or to summarize it, or to

read it and interpolate. So we hope all ofyou will feel free to present

your views to the committee in any style that you wish.

Mr. ANDERSON. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think I would like

to read the statement, and then possibly make a brief comment follow

ing the reading of the statement.

Mr. Chairman and distinguished members of the committee, my

name is Donald E. Anderson . I am the director of Lutheran Immi

gration Service .

Lutheran Immigration Service is a joint agency of the six Lutheran

Churches participating in the National Lutheran Council and also

for the Lutheran Church -Missouri Synod. The total membership of

these seven national church bodies numbers approximately 8 million

persons. Lutheran Immigration Service , as an agency, operates in

cooperation with the Lutheran World Federation, Department of

World Service, in Geneva. Represented in the Lutheran World Fed

eration are 61 Lutheran churches located in 32 countries with a com

bined membership of about 50 million persons.

Formerly I was the secretary for resettlement and material relief

for the Lutheran World Federation . While serving in this position,

I was an officer oftheInternational Committee forthe World Refugee

Year, and an officer of the standing Conference of Voluntary Agencies

Working for Refugees. In addition, I served as the chairman of a

working party for non-European migration created by the nongov

ernmental organizations interested in migration.

In these various capacities, I have had an opportunity, as well as an

obligation, to become acquainted with the problems of Chinese refu

gees and the various programs conducted on their behalf, especially

within the Hong Kong area. In view of this, and in view of the con

cern which the Lutheran churches have exhibited for Chinese refugees,

I both welcome and annreciate this opportunity to address this com

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mittee, as I understand that it is your purpose to compile information

on present programs in the Hong Kong area, and receive suggestions

for additional programs, in orderthat you may determine what action

the U.S. Government might, or should undertake in order to further

alleviate this serious situation .

I am sure that this committee is already fully aware of the com

plex and difficult problems involved in defining who is a Chinese

refugee in Hong Kong.

I will only state that we accept and give assistance to the limit of

our resources to all Chinese who would not, under circumstances, re

side in Hong Kong, as well as to those Chinese whose needs have de

veloped as the result of immigration into HongKong. Wehave found

that it is impossible to justly apply any traditional definition of the

term “refugee" inthe colony,andfor this reason sympathetically sup

port the stated policy of the Hong Kong Government,which has never

in any way madea distinction between the immigrantpopulation and

a

the population which hasits grassroots in Hong Kong.

It will be helpful, I believe, Mr. Chairman, if I describe for you the

typical Chinese refugee residing in Hong Kong as the Lutheran

churches have learned to know him since 1954. I can describe him

best, perhaps, by relating briefly the story of Mr. H.,as told by Pastor

Ludwig Stumpf, director of the Lutheran World Federation's pro

gram in Hong Kong.

Mr. H. in the year 1937 successfully graduated from the Sun Yat

sen University. He was called into the service of his country and for

10 years occupied the responsible post of a chief accountant of a pro

vincial government department. The fateful year 1949 arrived. As

millions of other human beings in the 20th century, he packed his few

possessions, locked the door of his home and joined the army of the

homeless men whose number seems to stretch into infinity . Ăn over

crowded little steamboat took him and his family down Pearl River

to the British Colony of Hong Kong .

Mr. H. did not let himself become downhearted nor confused by

this new exasperating life experience. He rented a little squatter hut

a

of 10 by 12 feet, repaired the leaking roof with tar paper and im

mediately went out to search for work. He was lucky . A quarry in

the new territories employed him as an accountant. But more diffi

culties were in store for him .

An economic depression resulted in the closing down of the quarry

and Mr. H. once again became one of the many jobless refugees in

Hong Kong. But this time he did not find employment. Hundreds

of bookkeepers from the mainland had entered the colony. The

meager savings of his family dwindled away quickly.

In order to cover the medical expenses for a sick child, the wrist

watch of Mr. H. found its way to the pawnshop. Other articles of

his household followed . It was then decided that Mrs. H. should take

over . With a small loan he bought a second -hand sewing machine and

Mrs. H., unafraid of losing face, installed herself on a busy pavement

in Kowloon withher sewing machine, offering her services as a seam

stress to the neighborhood . Thus a second -hand sewing machine be

came the sole breadwinner of a family of five persons.

It was only when the machine, after years of wear and tear, badly

needed repair, or rather, needed to be replaced, that Mr. H. asked for

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help and advice from the Lutheran churches. His hut was found to

be neat and tidy, and his children clean and orderly. He received

help and advice.

Multiply this story of Mr. H. by the thousands, and it becomes

possible to know the Chinese refugee as we have learned to know him.

His hardship, his poverty, and the almost insurmountable conditions

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surrounding him have not destroyed his integrity and dignity as a

human being.

As in the case of Mr. H., all these refugees have asked us for is an

opportunity to help themselves work out their own solutions to their

own problems. I am sure that this is what they would also ask you

if they were sitting here today. This is how we have learned to know

theChinese refugee, and this is how we would have others know him.

With this understanding of the refugee as a background , then , per

mit me to briefly outline and discuss what we have observed to be some

of the fundamental problems which prevent and complicate the task

we all have in providing opportunities for these refugees to help

themselves.

As this committee is aware, there are only three possible solutions

to any refugee problem once the refugee has arrived in an area of first

asylum . He can be repatriated , emigrated, or absorbed.

Repatriation is only a solution for those who can return to their

homes without fear of persecution . The very nature of the present

political situation in the world today makes this a solution for the

minority - and even for them there is no certainty, in areas such as

Hong Kong, that repatriation will not result in persecution. There

fore, this is not a solution to the Chinese refugee problem .

We would suggest that any program of repatriation which is en

tered into be entered into withcare and a greatdeal ofcaution in order

that needless suffering is not incurred by any individual who simply

asks the right to live freely without compromising his dignity and

integrity as a human being.

The second possibility is emigration. Whenever applied, emigra

tion has proved to be an effective solution to refugee problems. The

theory is that if you disperse a given group within relatively stable

communities, even where there is an unemployment problem , they

adjust and become self-supporting.

Dispersion through emigration, in order to be effective, however,

must take into account countless factors such asthe potential economic

growth of a given area, the community's ability to absorb different

language groups, cultural values and traditions, and the refugee's

ability to adjust to thenew community, et cetera. Emigration, there

fore, is only an effective solution when it is carefully planned and

administered. We have learned since the last war that simply " dump

ing ” people into scattered communitiesis no solution, and therefore,

when we speak of emigration as a possible solution, I assume that we

agree this means carefully planned and administered programs of

emigration. Not all Chinese refugees in Hong Kong desire to emi

grate, but there are thousands who see no other alternative and will

emigrate.

Recently we received a report from Hong Kong which summarized

the present possibilities for the emigration of Chinese refugees. This

report only pointed out again, however, that it is virtuallyimpossible,

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or extremely difficult, for all except a limited few to obtain visas for

entry into any country as permanentresidents.

If, for example,Mr. H., whois a desirable immigrant in that he has

the will to work, the initiative to find ways to support himself and his

family, and the dignity and integrity to become a good citizen, wished

toemigrate, it would be almost impossible for him to do so.

We are convinced, however, that there are countries where Chinese

refugees would, if given the opportunity, find ways and means to

support themselves and their families without creating any difficulties

for the present population, and, if their emigration were properly

planned and administered , they would, we believe, contribute signifi

cantly to the general welfare and prosperity of these countriesas a

whole.

The recent decisions of the United States and Taiwan to admit

approximately 6,000 and 10,000 Chinese from Hong Kong, respec

tively, were made after this report wascompiled.

It is our hope - you recall we submitted a letter to this committee on

June 5 which gave our reaction to the President's decision.

Senator Hart. It is my impression that this letter has been made a

part of this record. Yes, it has.

Mr. ANDERSON . Thank you.

It is our hope, as we indicated in our letter of June 5, 1962, that

other countries will also agree to accept Chinese from Hong Kong for

resettlement within their borders, for it is this type of constructive

action which is needed in order to further alleviate the present

problem .

From past experience, however, we do not believe that many nations

will act until an intergovernmental agency is designated to develop,

plan, and administer emigration programs for Chinese refugees.

Voluntary groups, such as ourselves, cannot effectively help these

refugees emigrate in significant numbers.

I would like to add here that in another context we would use a

term “massive movements,” for this is what we really mean. There

are a limited number of persons whom we and others have assisted

in emigrating. But here we are saying that we, as agencies, cannot

effectively handle mass movements of people.

We do believe, however, that if anintergovernmental agency were

given responsibility for developing, planning, and administering an

emigration program ,refugees such as Mr.H. would find opportunities

and ways to solve their problems.

The third possibility is for Hong Kong to absorb the refugee. This

is the stated desire of the Hong Kong Government, as I believe this

committee is aware. The tools needed for this task were again clearly

outlined in a report made to the Hong Kong Legislative Council on

June 13, 1962, by the Colonial Secretary , the Honorable Claude

Burgess , when he stated that :

For us in Hong Kong today the necessary tools are the opportunity to travel

freely, a reasonable access to world markets, and a vigorous capital program .

Given these, we ( too ) will finish the job.

Even though we are not economists, we believe the tools mentioned

in this statement will enable Hong Kong to absorb a large number of

these refugees. Thus we question whether the recent trade restrictions

imposed upon Hong Kong are truly in keeping with our longstanding

desire to assist theChinese refugee find a more reasonable and con

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structive life. If we limit the refugee's market,and prevent his move

ment to other areas, what alternative does the Chinese refugee have,

other than poverty and hardship ?

What I am attempting to underscore, Mr. Chairman, are some of the

problems which havemade it extremely difficult for Chinese refugees

to help themselves. The refugee cannot be repatriated nor return to

his former home; he cannot emigrate because of restrictive immigra

tion laws and policies, and he cannot fully develop opportunities to

support himself where he is as he cannot find enough markets for his

products. We know that all he wants is an opportunity to help him

self and for this opportunity he must look to his neighbor in the

world community.

Until something is done to provide opportunities for the refugee to

help himself, we believe that welfare and relief programs are

imperative.

What is of deep concern to us is that we see no end to these welfare

programs until something is done or initiated to solve the basic and

larger problems which I have mentioned. The program of the Lu

theran churches,, and others, have increased each year. Governmental

programs, as a result of the World Refugee Year, have also increased

and there is evidence that they should increase even more.

In order that this committee can have a picture of our Lutheran

program , I have attached as an exhibit to this statement a summary

report of the Lutheran World Federation program in Hong Kong for

the 6 -month period ending December 31, 1961. You will note in this

report various projects for helping the refugee help himself.

In addition , we have received countless suggestions for supporting

additional projects, such as primary schools, day nurseries, rehousing

of refugees, additional dental and medical clinics, rehabilitation of the

mentally affiicted and physically handicapped , vocational retraining,

et cetera . The possible number of welfare, relief, and self-help proj

ects are almost unlimited, and we hope that this committee will explore

possible additional assistance for supporting a greater number of

projects such as these.

In conclusion , Mr. Chairman, permit me to briefly summarize what

I have said as follows :

1. The Chinese refugee does desire to support himself and if given

this opportunity, he will solve his own problem ;

2. That repatriation is not a solution;

3. That emigration can be a possible solution for significant numbers

of refugees in Hong Kong if anintergovernmental body is created or

designated to develop, plan, and administer emigration programs;

4. That large numbers of these refugees can be absorbed into the

Hong Kong community if their products are given reasonable access

to world markets;

5. That, until programs can be developed for solving the basic

problems of Chinese refugees in Hong Kong, both government and

voluntary agency relief and welfare programswill have to continue on

an increasing scale for an indefinite period of time.

As a matter of information , I should also state that Lutheran Im

migration Service has decided to cooperate and assist with the move

ment of Chinese refugees to the United States, if needed. Our present

information indicates that only a few will need this assistance in

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view of the fact that most of those to be admitted will be assisted by

relatives and employers in the United States.

Also, I think that your committee would be interested in knowing

that the Lutheran Immigration Service Committee, which is our

governing board, adopted a resolution on June 12, 1962, relating to

the Senate bill S. 3043. This resolution states that Lutheran Immi

gration Service will —

actively support the principles and objectives implicit in this legislation in our

representation to the churches, Members of Congress, and other interested

organizations and bodies.

Lastly, Mr. Chairman,,we want to commend you and your committee

for your continuing sense of responsibility toward this problem in

Hong Kong and the problems of refugees throughout the world.

Thank you for this opportunity to appear here today.

Senator Hart. Mr. Anderson, thank you very much .

First, thankyou for the endorsement and your support for the en

actment of S. 3043, of which both Senator Fong and I are sponsors.

That suggests a long-term course that I think increasingly, or at least

I hope increasingly ,more and more people willsense is the right and

desirable thing to do, and that this is thetime to do it.

If it were on the books now,> we would have aa flexible 50,000 figure

for admission of refugees, come what may.

If it is appropriate to do it here, the committee would hope that you

would convey to all who are associated with the Lutheran World

• Federation our appreciation for the activity which they have been

engaged in for a long time, but specifically in Hong Kong.

I have not had a chance, and I doubt if any of us on the committee

have had a chance, carefully to study the program summary which

you have attached to the statement. I am sure that we and the readers

of the record will benefit from it. From the little I have seen, I am

struck by both the breadth of the program and the detail of experience

developed under it.

( The report referred to is as follows :)

SEMIANNUAL REPORT, JULY 1-DECEMBER 31 , 1961, OF THE LUTHERAN WORLD

FEDERATION , DEPARTMENT OF WORLD SERVICE, HONG KONG

I. MEDICAL AND HEALTH SERVICES

Since 1954, Lutheran World Service has devoted much of its energy and re

sources to the restoration of health , the promotion of physical and mental fitness,

and the prevention of disease. It maintans a 50-bed hospital, 3 out-patient clin

ics, and a mobile dental clinic.

( a ) Fanling Hospital

This is still one of only two general hospitals in the new territories mainland

with a rural population of 400,000 . The hospital has the following facilities :

Maternity ward, female medical and female surgical wards, male medical and

male surgical wards, children's ward, O.P.D. and tuberculosis clinics, dental sur

gery, operation theater, X - ray, diathermy, clinical laboratory, dispensary, and

social work department.

A new medical superintendent was appointed in September. A full -time sur

geon has also been on the staff since December 1 . The new tuberculosis clinic

was opened in October, and a new dispensary with up-to-date equipment is being

installed .

Inpatients 454

Outpatient attendances .. 7,464

( b ) Outpatient clinics

In Kowloon, Victoria, and Un Long. The two clinics serving the overcrowded

urban areas of Kowloon and Victoria have a monthly attendance of 4,000. The

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third clinic is situated in the largest satellite town of the new territories with a

population of about 100,000. Among the services provided in these clinics, we

have provided five artificial limbs or joints and three wheelchairs.

Patients treated .- 3,631

Hospitalized- 182

211

X -ray

( c ) Mobile dental clinic

Since April 1960, a well-equipped, air-conditioned mobile dental clinic has been

catering for the underprivileged children for whom no dental care is available

in Hong Kong. It serves eight different refugee resettlement areas daily.

Treatment is also given at the dental clinic in Fanling Hospital.

Patients treated -- 3, 434

II . VOCATIONAL TRAINING

The ultimate objective of our vocational training scheme is the economic inde

pendence of the trainee and his dependents. Our aim is to give him a basic

training in a trade or craft fitting to compete in the industrial employment

market or to set up his own small business. Two major advances have been

made in the administration of the department, the initiation of placement sur

veys on all graduated trainees and regular checks on employment. With the

information collected from these reviews the task of finding employment for

graduates of future classes is made easier. The information is also instru

mental in enabling us to evaluate the strong and weak points of the individual

classes.

The most successful class has been the cookery class. All the graduates of the

class ending in November are now employed. This is due to a number of factors.

There is an excellent teacher in charge ; the publicity has been good ; and the

need for trained employees in the hotel and catering business is increasing daily..

The work of the department was expanded in June when day and evening

classes in tailoring, carpentry, and mechanics began in the newly opened Prin

cess Alexandra Community Center at Tsun Wan. The appointment of a grad

uate of Hong Kong Technical College to the class for mechanics ( air-conditioner

repair and maintenance ) resulted in the improvement in the work and discipline

of students.

Plans for the future are centered on the four-story trade school to be built in :

Kwun Tong. On completion , this will accommodate approximately 1,000 students

engaged in courses planned in line with the industrial needs of the colony.

The figure for attendance at the classes which follow are for those classes be

ginning in November and December. The previous courses were attended by

over 230 students.

Wong Tai Sin :

Tailoring class-

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23

Porcelain painting class --

Bookkeeping class .. 10

Basic accounting class.

Cost-accounting class_

Shorthand and typewriting class.

English class.-

Evening English class.. 12

Evening tailoring class.. 16

Tsun Wan :

Tailoring class .- 16

Mechanical class .. 19

Carpentry class .

Evening tailoring class.. 20

Evening mechanical class... 18

Evening carpentry class .

Lung Tao Street :

Mechanical class.-

14

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Evening mechanical class. 11

Shaukiwan : Tailoring class. 10

Kimberly Road : Cookery class.

Total.

234

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III . SELF - SUPPORT

This department has undergone a number of changes during the last 6 months.

Under the direction of the casework supervisor, criteria were set up for deter

mining the type of help that could be given and the eligibility of applicants.

After a few months' experience of working with these criteria, it was found nec

essary to amend them; the revised criteria have since been circulated to all

concerned in welfare work in Hong Kong.

The sum allocated to an applicant may take the form of a grant or loan de

pending on the amount granted and the nature of the intended project. The

objective is to bring economic security to the client and his dependents on a

permanent basis. The aid given out by this department does not include material

relief, medical or educational assistance.

So far the work has been conducted on an experimental basis with one case

worker attached to the department. During the few months since the reorgani

zation of the department 49 families have been assisted. Most of these have

been for the establishing of small private enterprises.

Now as the number of applications received for this type of aid increases a sec

ond trained caseworker has been transferred to the department, and it is expected

that the work will expand considerably during the next few months.

IV . CRAFTS

From an original operation which purchased cottage-industry products brought

in by the maker, a wide field has opened. We have now come within sight of our

two major objectives. The first is to give our craftsmen more pay for better

work ; the second to add new products and so employ more workers.

Demand for the products is satisfactory and is increasing. Orders are waiting

when we can assure delivery, of jewelry boxes, dolls, brocade garments, and em

broidered and beaded sweaters. Our workers are kept occupied on actual rather

than potential shipments.

We have helped new and old workers to step up the quality of their goods by

attaching them to highly trained and experienced craftsmen at our own work

shops. After a few months they improve considerably and are able to continue

their handicrafts at home. It is intended that in time a high percentage of the

workers will prove capable of handling their own businesses or of forming coop

eratives among themselves .

With this end in view, we have concentrated on helping

( a ) Recently hospitalized and convalescent workers who cannot yet go

back to factory work.

( 0 ) Younger and older persons who are not desirable workers for

factories.

( C ) The physically handicapped who are generally ill-treated and

underpaid.

( d ) Those with unusual skills who do not fit into mass production work.

( e ) Those who must work at home because of family conditions.

( f ) The vocational school graduate who needs some experience before he

can command decent wages.

Once these people are sufficiently self-assured , physically recovered , or have

become truly skilled in making products suitable for today's market, the bar.

riers to private employment disappear. It is not proposed that we become perma

nent manufacturers of any certain types of goods but rather that we direct the

worker into paths which will lead to his independence.

V. RURAL RESETTLEMENT

From the experimental work done at Sai Kung and the experience derived

from Fu Le Tsun and Ma On Shan, the of he department has become

more closely associated with the overall aims of the New Territories Administra

tion Department of Government. The new projects at Cheung Chau and Ma

Cho Lung have reinforced the belief that still closer cooperative Development

and Fisheries Department of the Government enables us to play an even greater

part in the establishing of social communities on the islands and in the new

territories .

Two projects at Cheung Chau and Ma Cho Lung are aimed at rehousing the

people already in these districts living in unhealthy and substandard conditions.

In the rural new territories we are providing vitally needed housing, preparatory

114 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

to the Cooperative Development Department building up the individual family

units into a coherent and self- supporting whole.

Sai Kung . - Thirty -two families now in residence, 12 of the clients are widows,

9 of the husbands in other families are ex -tuberculosis patients ; total population

201 , 142 being 16 years old or younger.

Ma On Shan.-Sixteen houses all occupied ; total population 108, 59 being

under 16. The majority work at the mines nearby and were living previously

in appalling conditions in makeshift shacks by the shore.

Fu Le Tsun .-All 19 houses have now been completed.

Ma Cho Lung.—This area has been occupied by 60 or 70 refugee families who

previously lived just across the frontier and crossed over to work their land in

British territory. These now occupy wooden structures built on piles which are

frequently isolated by rains and floods and threatened by the River Shan Chun .

It is planned to resettle these people on the slope of a hill nearby. The plans of

the houses have already been accepted by the village representative.

Cheung Chau Island. The scheme provides for the construction of resettle

ment blocks, each block consisting of 13 units. The purpose is to remove refugee

fishermen from their present squalid living conditions, to give them a new home

and so to provide the means to a new life.

Tsing Yi Island . — The proposal is to establish a small resettlement area to

rehouse families living in huts in Tsing Yi town. The huts have to be cleared

to make way for the development of the town . The Resettlement Department

of the Government will form the sites and the cost of site formation will be

borne by the New Territories Administration . The construction of the houses by

Lutheran World Service will begin in April or May.

VI . TBC REHABILITATION

This is a pilot project which began in July 1960. Its aim is to provide post

hospitalization aid and is designed to rehabilitate the breadwinner of the family

recovering from tuberculosis by assisting him to become self-supporting. Single

needy ex - tuberculosis patients are also eligible.

Rehabilitation does not simply mean that the patient is given some kind of

routine light employment, for the clinical, psychological and particularly the

social circumstances of the individual have a strong bearing on the course to

be taken in any one case . Four trained caseworkers are employed to conduct

the office interviews and home visits and assist in the planning for the individual .

( Five forms of rehabilitation are normally employed :

( a ) Industrial occupation

Efforts are made to get the client back into his old job , if this is not injurious

to his health, rather than to train him for a new one,

( 6 ) Home industries

The organization of handicrafts and other work in the client's home. Raw

materials often have to be provided and methods of selling the finished products

to be devised. This is worked out in cooperation with our crafts department.

( c ) Establishment in business or small holding

This involves an initial capital outlay to set up a small business that will have

some chance of providing a livelihood for the man and his family. For the first

year at least he usually needs a great deal of advice and encouragement from

this agency .

( d ) Rural resettlement

For families with a farming background. Assistance includes construction of

simple houses, pigsties, and chickenhouses ; terracing the land, provision of

free animal feed for the first 6 months, and a small care and maintenance allow

ance for the family for the first year.

( e ) Vocational training

For those who have to learn a trade or change their occupation, this is usually

provided by one of our vocational training classes. Financial assistance has to

be given for the trainee and his family during this period .

In all our activities we work very closely with the Government departments

concerned . There are frequent consultations between the senior Government

tuberculosis specialist, the senior tuberculosis almoner and the supervisor ; ac

cepted cases report regularly to the nearest chest clinics for observation and

followup treatment.

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A considerable step forward has been made by the setting up of the tuber

culosis rehabilitation advisory committee which has attempted to coordinate the

work of the medical and health services, the rehabilitating agency and the

Federation of Hong Kong Industries with a view to the employment of the ex

tuberculosis patients.

So far 79 cases have been rehabilitated and all are kept under supervision ; 66

cases are under investigation , but the rehabilitating process has not yet been

completed.

VII . CATEGORICAL AIR

This department was formed in May 1961, and it now provides both long and

short term help , acting to an extent as a clearinghouse in an attempt to meet

the needs of those for whom there are no other resources available in this

organization or the rest of the community .

Long-term assistance . - Cases which are thought to need continuous help for

more than 3 months come into this category. Where a family or an individual

will need help for more than 1 year, his case is submitted for sponsorship. The

majority of these are arranged through the Oxford Committee for Famine

Relief in England or through private groups and organizations in Germany.

The sponsors send regular contributions of money which is passed on to the

client through this office, in the form of cash grants or specific relief. The amount

of help given is not restricted and the cases are of great variety - rent, tuition

fees, hospital fees, grants toward maintenance , clothing, textbooks, special

medical treatment, etc. Often it is a case of tiding the family over until the

children have left school and can earn their own living, or while the main

breadwinner has to go into the hospital for a long course of treatment.

Short -term assistance . — This provides help of even more varied kinds. Its

chief purpose is to cater for any emergencies, e.g. , accidents or sudden illness,

birth or death, loss of employment. Help is given usually as a one-time grant

as an immediate measure of relief ; grants are not continued for more than

3 months as purely emergency measures, but such a case is considered as a

long -term one.

The department is under the supervision of a graduate of Hong Kong Uni

versity with a social work diploma assisted by two trained caseworkers. The

present caseload is 243. Over 50 new cases are being referred every month, an

indication of the need for these services in the community. Another case

worker is now being appointed to the department to help with the increasing

caseload.

As at December 31 :

Long -term cases.. 1148

Short -term cases . 38

Cases under investigation. 57

Total active cases . 243

1 Of these 114 are sponsored .

VIII . STUDENT AID

The object of this department is to give assistance to secondary or middle

school graduates to continue with postsecondary studies who would not other

wise be able to afford this. For the new academic year beginning October 1961,

we have concentrated our support on students in the four leading postsecondary

colleges in Hong Kong, Baptist, Chung Chi, New Asia and United Colleges.

But those students whose applications were accepted before September 1, 1961,

have not lost their grants . In December assistance was also given to 12 special

students at Hong Kong Technical College on the recommendation of the

principal.

We received over 200 applications for grants to study for the academic year

1961-62 and we were able to accept about half these, over twice the number

receiving grants from this department last year. The grants were made as

follows :

Students

Tuition fee grant ... 50

Work scholarship . 12

Technical college 12

Care and maintenance --- 23

Tuition fee grant and care and maintenance_ 10

Total 107

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IX . CHILD WELFARE

This department, now over 2 years old, derives its funds from sponsorships

arranged through the Lutheran World Federation in Sweden. The present basis

of its program is to provide tuition fees for children in primary school. Over

3,300 children receive grants to study in primary school. Pupils in middle,

technical and deaf and dumb schools have also been given assistance. Grants

are made for textbooks and uniforms in addition to the monthly tuition fees.

But it is not sufficient just to pay school bills. We try to insure that the

children we help receive education of a high standard, and that they are able

to absorb this, and make full use of all the activities of the school. Our hope

is that in the future they will be able to make a better contribution to the

development of their family, society , and culture.

With this aim a school-visiting program bas been started. A registered

school does not necessarily mean a good school, and by these visits we are able

to see that our students receive the best education available in their district.

By monthly contact with the children we try to find out where there is a special

need and make grants toward living expenses.

The instruction and treatment given in the child welfare treatment room

form a further part of this overall assistance. Over 650 children a month

recieve a biscuit and a weekly glass of milk — or Vita - vitamin if this is in short

supply. Mothers and children receive treatment for minor ailments there ;

for more extensive treatment they are referred to our medical treatment

center.

With the encouragement and assistance of continued and even larger support

from sponsors in Sweden, plans for the expansion of the program are being

discussed by a working committee drawn from the heads of departments.

The present figures are as follows :

Ohildren

Primary school.- 3, 152

Middle school.-- . 143

Maintenance to scholarship students.

Technical school.-- 2

O

Deaf-and -dumb school - 8

LWS resettlement village Sai Kung--- 65

Total.- 3 , 373

11,555 families.

X. MATERIAL RELIEF

The third milk bar operated by Lutheran World Service was opened at the

Tsun Wan resettlement estate in November, We now run 3 milk bars and 3

mobile canteens to provide extra nourishment for the poor children of Hong

Kong. About 2,000 children receive milk and crackers at Tsun Wan and the

total number of children now served daily reaches 12,000. In addition we

supply milk powder and crackers for two other operations. The new milk bar

is the first of such facilities that we have provided in the new territories ;

another one is being planned for the children at Yaumati.

In our distribution of foodstuffs we have completed the necessary changeover

from a mass selection of food recipients to a selection made on an individual

basis in accordance with agreed -upon standards. As a result of the more rigorous

examination the number of recipients has for the moment been reduced , but it

will increase again as new applicants are found eligible. The program was

disrupted when news was received that no more rice would be delivered and it

was not yet known if Bulgur wheat would be accepted by the Chinese. There

fore there was a period when no new applicants were accepted, but the expiries

of the ration cards continued , thus reducing still further the total number of

recipients.

It is felt that the clients presently holding ration cards are less likely to sell,

which may account for less buying actively near our centers. If no applications

are approved unless a home visit has been made there is likely to be a further

reduction in selling.

The needy persons who actually profit from the distribution of U.S. surplus

foods by Lutheran World Service is greater than is shown under the number of

persons served because of allocations made to institutions. The Mennonite Cen

tral Committee uses 800 pounds of noodles from Lutheran World Service each

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week in their hot lunch program for over 2,000 schoolchildren . The crackers dis

tributed by our milk bars and canteens contain U.S. surplus flour, cornmeal and

milk plus additional ingredients.

As the weather became colder, we began distribution of used clothing to all

food recipients and this was completed before the end of December. Clothing was

also distributed to the Russian refugees registered with the World Council of

Churches. Distribution has now started with 2,000 padded quilts which arrived

late from the factory in early December.

Quantities distributed

Pounds

Flour 609, 825.00

Noodle 92, 100.00

Noodles 106, 693.00

Milk powder 42, 882. 50

Milk bars 28 , 485. 50

Noodle 5 , 098.00

Corn Meal . 657, 233. 00

Noodle 6, 792.00

Rice 293 , 913.00

Bulgur wheat_ 104, 790.00

Crackers 41, 599.50

Number of persons served - total aggregate of period July 1 - Dec. 31, 1961

Milk bars and mobile canteens ( children ) -- 895, 503

Distribution centers new territories and fishermen (persons ) 124, 127

Feeding station (noodles ) ( persons ) 12, 720

L. STUMPF, Director.

JANUARY 29, 1962.

Senator HART. If you were asked to name one program above allelse

which you think would serve best the needs of the people in Hong

Kong, and reflect best the concern of this country for them , what would

it be ?

Mr. ANDERSON. Well, let me answer in this way . One of the real

problems that we have faced is that we have notbeen able to find

and I do not think anybody else has either on a governmental level or

a nongovernmental level - to find along-range policy or strategy which

would lead to a solution of this problem .

I think that if we could name one program which would best serve

these people, we would certainly do so . But I think we would be

very hesitant to settle on any single program . What we would really

like to see, I think , is an intergovernmental body to start consultations

which would lead to the development of a long-range strategy and

plan for the solution of this problem .

Until a long-range plan is developed we have no alternative, I be

lieve, but to continue a welfare and relief program which really does

no solve problems at all.

I read numerous case histories before selecting the story of Mr. H. I

selected Mr. H.'s story because Pastor Stumpf indicated that this

story --in many ways - was a perfect and typical example of a Chinese

refugee.

But there was another story which may help make my point that

present programs are not leading to permanent solutions for these

refugees. This is the story of a refugee who arrived in Hong Kong

in 1951 or 1952. Upon arrival in the colony, he moved into a hut,

which was among 10,000 huts later destroyed by fire. He then moved

on to the street, ate at Government kitchens. Finally he was helped

118 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

and rehoused in a new Government building, in an apartment which

was 9 by 12 feet. As this space had to be occupied by five people,

and there were only three in his family, he had to live with another

family of three in the same apartment. And one of the three had

active tuberculosis.

This man thencontracted TB, and again he had to be helped for

the third time. It is not unusual that each time we help a person to

help himself, a new need develops. It seems as if we can never really

solve individual problems permanently. As the solution to one prob

lem simply leads to another.

We would say that immigration must be seriously considered.

There is not enough space for everyone in Hong Kong. Overcrowding

has created manyproblems. Economic growth can help considerably

as well as can additional housing.

But II do not think that we would dare say that anyone single pro

gram can lead to a solution of this problem .

I hope I have conveyed my point, as this is a very complex problem .

If we had any single program to recommend we would certainly share

it with you .

Senator HART. Senator Fong ?

Senator Fong. Mr. Anderson, I am very impressed with the varied

programs your Lutheran Council hasbeen carryingout in Hong Kong.

How long have you been engaged in that work, as far as the Lutheran

Church is concerned ?

Mr. ANDERSON. We really started in a serious way about 1954,

maybe late 1953.

Senator Fong. Are you in a position totell us approximately how

much the Lutheran Church is spending in Hong Kong, how much has

it spent ?

If you do not wish to answer that, it is perfectly all right.

Mr. ANDERSON. Well, it was considerably more than a quarter of

a million dollars, but I cannot tell you how much more. I have been

away from the administrationof this program for about 2 years. I

would be hesitant to give you a figure now.

We also receive, as you know, support through various govern

mental agencies, both in Hong Kong and from theUnited States, and

this strengthens our programconsiderably. I am sure that you have

access to Government records which will show the extent of the sup

port we are receiving from U.S. Government agencies.

We are spending well over $250,000 of church money a year.

Senator Fong. A year ?

Mr. ANDERSON. Yes.

Senator Fong . Now, in your work in the colony of Hong Kong,

how do you find the cooperation of the British authorities ?

Mr. ANDERSON . We have found close cooperation.

In the summary report for the 6 -month period ending December 31,

1961, you will find that we are trying in various areas to increase this

cooperation and coordination. In general, however, I think that we

have aa very favorable relationship and a cordial relationship.

Senator" Fong. You have stated that the Hong Kong Government

does not call these refugees "refugees” but, rather, treats them as

part of the residents of the colony. And you suggested that an inter

governmental agency be set up .

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 119

Now , due tothe fact that the Hong Kong Government looks at this

as a local problem and not as a problem in which it is asking for

help — it has not asked for help — I think the general feeling we have

is that it is trying to keep it within its boundaries — how would an

intergovernmental agencydevelop under these circumstances ?

Mr. ANDERSON. This is a very difficult question to answer .

I must say that we support the policy of the Hong Kong Govern

ment which treats refugees and the indigenous population alike, be

cause we ourselves are faced with a problem when two people come to

us who are in desperate need. We cannot say to one person , you are

a refugee and therefore we will help you, but you are not and therefore

we cannot help you. This position , we could not face as an agency.

We must treat all as individuals in need. And certainly the influx of

refugees has developed needs for many of the indigenous population.

Now , how would refugees be defined, if an intergovernmental

agency entered into the picture? This I do not know , but I think this

is one of the things that an intergovernmental body could decide.

Possibly the best approach is to consider this as a population problem

and look for a solution to the refugee problem in this way.

Senator Fong. As soon as you talk about government, the Hong

Kong Government must necessarily be a party. It would be probably

presumptuous for us as a government tonegotiate with another gov

ernment for the emigration of refugees when the Hong Kong Govern

ment is not in the picture.

Mr. ANDERSON . I think this is true. It would be presumptuous.

But we have never been convinced that this problem is not a responsi

bility of the international community.

Senator Fong. On the governmental level, it would be a very diffi

cult problem , if the Hong Kong Government does not want to be a

party to it.

Mr. ANDERSON . I believe it would be a difficult problem if the Hong

Kong government does not want to be a party to it.

Senator Fong. Under those circumstances, then , private organiza

tions, like the Lutheran Church for example, may be able to work out

someplan for the emigration of these people.

Mr. ANDERSON. We, ourselves, have not concentrated on emigration

programs as the possibilities have been so limited .

If emigration were to take place in sufficient numbers or through

mass movements, there must be some investigation of economic poten

tial of areas where these people can move; access to information

which will enable this potential to be analyzed by qualified experts;

housing and immediate employment upon arrival must also be con

sidered as well as funds to move them . I cannot visualize, as an

individual, having been involved in movement programs, that a

voluntary agency can effectively initiate this type of program on a

large scale.

Senator Fong. You feel this program is too big, too expensive, for

a private agency to undertake, is that right?

Mr. ANDERSON . Yes. I should also add that immigration laws are

involved as well. Possible areas into which these people can move,

I think, must be investigated and then negotiated. Agencies can

play a role once a program is established. But I do not think such

agencies have the ability to plan, develop and administer large pro

grams such as this on a nongovernmental level.

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Senator Fong. So to make a program like that effective, it would

have to be between governments ?

Mr. ANDERSON. Yes, this is definitely my opinion. An emigration

program , to beeffective, mustbe between governments.

Senator Fong. I agree with you there, because I think the program

once carried out would be a very, very big one, involving many, many

problems, and large sums of money . And it would be very difficult

for a privateagency to carry that out.

I have no further questions, Mr. Chairman .

Senator HART. This makes more important the point you were de

veloping about the difficulties of intergovernmental relations in con

nection with such a program , if, in fact, the crown colony is not a

willing partner to it.

Mr.Johnson .

Mr. JOHNSON. Mr. Chairman, I think it might be very appropriate,

in view of Senator Fong's exchange with Mr. Anderson, to insert in

the appendix of this record the Hong Kong government policy state

menton emigration from China, and offers of help from overseas.

I would like to call attention to two statements.

One is that the first way in which the outside world can help this

colony with its burdens is to

assure reasonable access to oversea markets for the limited range of goods we

can produce efficiently .

And the second statement is that :

Secondly, we have a limitless need for assistance in our construction program .

Senator Hart. The statement will be made a part of the record.

Mr. JOHNSON . Mr. Anderson, inasmuch as your work has been

predominantly in the field of immigration, and in view of the diffi

culties which have already commenced with respect to how an inter

national agency could function, do you think, for example, that the

Intergovernmental Committee for European Migration,or a similar

organization,might possibly be organized in this area such as has

been done in Europe ?

Mr. ANDERSON. Well, I think that we are going to be faced with

population pressures in that area of the world formany yearsto come,

and there is going to have to be some way of relating population to

resources . I have always felt that the Intergovernmental Committee

for European Migration has been aa highly effective unit for handling

population problems in Europe.

It would seem to me that the ideal would be for the Far Eastern

area of the world to have a similar unit. This would be the ideal.

Short of that, which would be difficult, if not impossible to initiate,

I think that presently, right now, that if ICEM were brought into the

picture, at least to facilitate movements, that this would be a very

constructive move, and certainly enable additional emigration out of

Hong Kong.

ICEM , in my opinion, is the only intergovernmental agency which

can handle this type program effectively at the present time and they

do an exceptional job. We regard very highly the work done by

ICEM.

Mr. JOHNSON. One other question presents itself in having migra

tion become a meaningful aspect of the program .

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From the information we have received to date, a substantial num

ber of people who have emigrated from mainland China to Hong Kong

have become reasonably well established either in business or occupa

tion and have reasonably decent housing,but that probably somewhere

between 350,000 and half aa million are living in pretty miserable con

ditions with a very chancy situation in the matter of employment.

Obviously, these are the people most in need of emigration opportu

nity. And yet I would assume that other governments take an attitude

very similar to our own, and that is that they want people with special

skills — at least they would prefer this type.

Can you conceive of any way in which wecan bring assistance to this

particular group, which is most in need, and which is the least firmly

resettled of the people already in Hong Kong ?

Mr. ANDERSON. Well, as in all emigration programs, this is a major

problem — the countries of immigration desire certain types of people

whichare needed for their economy. The same people are also usually

needed in the country of emigration. Therefore,, I think this is some

thing which can only be negotiated. We use the term " seeding ??

which has been used in several different ways. What I mean isthat

if a group of people are moved from an overpopulated area and suc

cessfully resettled in a new locationthrough well-planned and admin

istered 'programs, additional people will follow at a later date in

significant numbers. I think it is in thissecond unplanned movement

that you reach the people who most need help.

Mr. Johnson. Time, then , in the sense, is the essence of this sort or

movement ?

I have no further questions.

Mr. DE HAAN. I have a question or two, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Anderson, would you have any comment with respect to the Far

East refugee program as it is now constituted ? Would you suggest

any change in the program, for example ? Is it a currently useful

program ?

Mr. ANDERSON. Well, our experience — you are speaking about the

Far Eastern program of the U.S. Government ?

Mr. DE HAAN . That is right ; the one administered by the State

Department.

Mr. ANDERSON. I am not now responsible for administering this

part of the Lutheran program , and so I can only refer back to the time

>

I was in Geneva. But I can state that in myopinion we have had a

very favorable, constructive relationship. And I think thatthe people

who administer this program, their caliber, their quality, their imag

ination , their inventiveness, is what has made it effective.We have

found them extremely helpful. They have been very good to work

with. I, myself, would have nothing but compliments .

There are problems, certainly, but in all these programs we are going

to ve problems, but not fundamental problems which prevent con

structive programing.

So, I can say thatmy relationship to the Far Eastern program has

been positive.

Negotiations and discussions have taken place for finding ways to

improve the Far Eastern program. I am not now prepared, however,

to discuss specific suggestions for improving this program .

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Mr. DE HAAN. Are you acquainted with the educational system in

Hong Kong ?

Mr. ANDERSON . No ; this I am not.

Mr. DE HAAN. The reason I askis that you mention primary schools

in your list of possible projects. Now , ina recent report by the Hong

Kong and British authorities it is claimed that for the most part the

goal of universal primary education has been achieved in Hong Kong,

and that the stress should now be on secondary education . I was just

curious whether this was also your impression — that the goal of uni

versal primary education has been , in the main, achieved in Hong

Kong

Mr. ANDERSON. I have not brought with me the document in which

this is mentioned .

I would be hesitant to comment on this right now except to state that

we have received requests foradditional assistance to primary schools.

Mr. DE HAAN . For the building of new schools, or the maintenance

of schools already in operation ?

Mr. ANDERSON. I would have to refer to our project requests.

May I communicate this to you at a later date ?

Mr. DE HAAN. Yes.

I have a couple of general questions here,which, in your answer, you

might relate to the situation in Hong Kong.

Mr. Anderson, how would you view the position of American vol

untary agencies in the overall pattern of American foreign policy ?

What relationship is there between voluntary agenciesand Ameri

can foreign policy in Hong Kong, for example ?

Mr. ANDERSON . Well, first of all, I think there must be close coop

eration between governmental and nongovernmental programs for

the same group of people. There is an area where the interests of

Government and the interests of agencies overlap. We have referred

to these areas as "areas of mutual interest.” In these areas of mutual

interest there can be an effective working relationship between the

Government and voluntary agencies. However, if voluntary agencies

assume responsibility for that which rightly belongs to Government,

for

and if the Government seeks to use agencies as an instrument of then

eign policy and thus determine the policy of a voluntary agency,

I believe there will be problems. The key is to define " areas of com

mon interest” and then work together without compromising the

integrity and purpose of either the Government or the voluntary

agency .

Mr. DE HAAN. Do you believe thisarea of common interest at the

present time is adequately defined in Hong Kong ?

Mr. ANDERSON . Yes. I believe, however, that any refugee problem

must beprimarily a responsibility of Governmen

can be effective where the Government is limited . t,but that agencies

Agencies can oper

ate simply because a human being needs assistance, and for purely

humanitarian reasons .

Does that answer your question ?

Mr. DE HAAN. Yes, somewhat.

I have one final question.

Are you satisfied with the present governmental system of audits and

controls in the Public Law 280 program ?

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Mr. ANDERSON. As you perhaps are aware, Lutheran churches have

various agencies, and I think that is a question which somebody from

Lutheran World Relief would be more competent to answer than I.

Mr. DE HAAN. Would you be willing to submit a statement in

answer to the question !

Mr. ANDERSON. I will pass it on to Lutheran World Relief and have

them contact you .

Mr. DE HAAN. We would appreciatethat very much.

That is all the questions I have, Mr. Charmian.

Senator Hart. Again, Mr. Anderson, thank you very much .

I am sure those who read the record will understand better the scope

and extent of the Lutheran contribution in this field .

Mr. ANDERSON . Thank you.

Senator HART. Our next witness is David Lee.

Mr. Lee, we welcome you. We heard about you a couple of weeks

ago from Mrs. Chennault.

I note you have a statement here, butthere is no biography on it. I

know how reluctant everyone is, or at least everyone who is a politi

cian , to talk about himself. But if you would be good enough for the

record to indicate where you were born and any community activities

that you may now engage in — before you proceed with yourstatement.

STATEMENT OF DAVID LEE, OF CHINESE REFUGEE RELIEF

Mr. LEE . Mr. Chairman , Senator Fong, distinguished members of

the committee, my name is David Lee. I was born in China, in Pei

ping ; that is north China. I have been here in the United States

about 22 years. I am a builder now for 12 years in Washington. I

am an officer of the Chinese Refugee Relief.

Senator Hart. May I ask under what circumstances you were re

ceived in this country ? That is, was it on a visa quota number ?

Mr. LEE. Yes, I was naturalized under the displaced persons bill,

1955 .

Senator Fong. Came here originally as a student ?

Mr. LEE. I originally came as a representative of Nationalist China

during the Second World War, withChinese Defense and Supplies.

(Mr. Lee subsequently submitted biographical information as

follows :)

BIOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION OF DAVID LEE

David Lee was born in 1914, in Tientsin, China. He attended college at Nankai

University, Tientsin, and graduated from the Central Military Academy, Nan

king. In 1939, he came to the United States as a student officer and graduated

from the following schools :

Command and General Staff College, Fort Leavenworth, Kans.

Infantry School, Fort Benning, Ga .

Cavalry School, Fort Riley, Kans.

Quartermaster Motor Transport School, Camp Holabird, Md.

Armored Force School, Fort Knox, Ky.

During World War II he also served as a representative of the Ministry of

Military Affairs and Training in Chinese Defense Supplies, Washington, D.C.

In 1947, he became Director of Foreign Affairs in the Tientsin municipality .

After the Chinese National Government moved to Formosa in 1950, he served

as Deputy Chief of Staff of Armored Force Command, with the rank of colonel.

Mr. Lee married Jeanne Scott of Louisville, Ky., in 1945. He became a U.S.

citizen in 1955. Mr. and Mrs. Lee have four sons, David, 16, Kelly 14, Stephen

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10, and Wade 7. They now reside at 7030 Radnor Road, Kenwood Park, Md.

Since 1952, Mr. Lee has been a builder in Washington, D.C. and Bethesda .

Mr. LEE. I returned recently from Hong Kong where most of the

refugees are congregated . The city is beautiful,the skyline modern.

But behind the beauty is also ugliness.

I saw little shacks built with a few boards; families living in small

sampans on the river ; the pitiful faces of children in torn clothing .

In the night, thousands sleep on the sidewalks or wherever they can

find a place to lie down. These are the refugees. You have read about

them , and you have seen them on television. But to see them in the

flesh , to look into their wretched faces is a scene that cannot be shut

off like television. I cannot close my eyes and forget.

I stayed in Hong Kong almost 2 months. I talked to the refugees

to find out the trueconditions in Communist China. I was told that

conditions were bad, caused in part by flood and drought, in part by

the Communist system .

In 1959, “ the great leap forward” moved the people to the factories.

Butthereare no longer enoughrawmaterials to keep the factories in

production and famine now stalks the land. So the forward leap has

been reversed ; the factory workers have now been ordered to the

farms. Since 1959, the harvest has been bad. Now in their fourth

year of famine, the people sense the worst may be yet to come. They

have lost hope. This is the reason for the exodus in May. Many

refugees believe there will be a bigger stampede for the border before

the harvest next fall.

We in the United States require about 3,000 calories per day. The

average diet of the Chinese people, before the Communist occupation,

was about 2,300 calories per day. In 1959, their average dropped

below 1,500 calories. No one knows how many calories their meager

ration now contains, but I was told a person eats only two meals a

day. Each meal consists of a few pitiful ingredients,weighing about

two and one-half ounces. Half of this is grain ; the other half a

mixture of leaves, roots, bark, and sometimes sawdust. Meat is a

rarity; cooking oil is extremely scarce. Housewives wrap a piece of

fat in cloth and rub it over the skillet again and again - long after

it has become merely a dirty, greasy rag . Clothing is also rationed

drastically. Patches appear over patches. The average person works

12 hours daily, then isobliged to spend 2 hours in the evening attend

ing Communist indoctrination sessions. In the communes, husbands

and wives meet once a month. There is little privacy, with a curtain

separating the bunks. There is no human dignity left. Refugees

told me they came to Hong Kong seeking not only food but freedom

and dignityand decency.

Of course, hunger is not equally shared in the so -called people's

paradise. The army and party members are privileged and pam F

pered. Technical personnel and intellectuals are next ir priority.

There are revolts from below, but the army still can control them .

However, the soldiers have families and may not wish to see them

hungry. Many refugees hope that the soldiers some day will join

the revolts instead of stopping them . Of the 600 million people

living under these intolerable conditions, less than 2 percent are reg

istered Chinese Communist Party members.

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The central purpose of Chinese Refugee Relief is simply to help the

refugees. They need food, clothing and medical care . We also be

lieve it is importantto have Chinese representation in this relief work,

people who not only know Chinese customs and habits, but truly

understand the Chinese way of thinking. We would like to empha

size the resettlement phaseto accomplish the aims of our slogan“ to

help the refugee to help himself." There are no Chinese on public

relief in this country. These refugees are industrious people, who

want to be independent and regain their dignity. >

We have begun plans for an “Island of Hope," a new haven for

homeless refugees. We have several places under consideration out

side of the United States, where we feel these refugees, if given a

chance and properly organized , could build a community . The near

est one is Lan Tao Island near Hong Kong. It can be developed to

accommodate from 50,000 to 100,000refugees. It also can be used as

a way station for refugeesheading elsewhere in the free world. With

these facilities, we could take down the barbed wire wall.

We also are offering our assistance to the Chinese refugees coming

to this country. Most of them have sponsors, but many need help in

finding proper employment.

We would like to conceive of the refugees in a new light- not just as

people needing help, but people who can help us fight this cold war.

Our plans also call for a Refugee Information Center to gather all the

data and information on the refugee problem .

I would like to stress that we are all volunteers, givingfreely of our

time. We need a lot of help from dedicated people, and we need the

cooperation of other charitable agencies to accomplishour goals.

The flow of refugees has temporarily slowed down. I pray that we

do noi treat the problem lightly and assume that it is ended . The

free world must be prepared to help these people seeking freedom .

We must not be caught unprepared, therebymaking it necessary for

the free world to erect a barbed wire wall and deny these people their

right to liberty. These Chinese people have alwayslooked to Amer

ica for hope. Our help to the refugees keeps the light of freedom

burning. Only this light of hope can give those who are still enslaved

the courage to revolt against the Communist tyranny. These streams

of revolt will form a river of revolution. I believe this hope could

become a realty and is not too far away. It is the only solution to

save 600 million people from slavery. This is also the prayer of the

Hong Kong refugees.

Senator Hart. Thank you, Mr. Lee, fora very eloquent statement.

Senator Fong. Mr. Lee, could you tell us something about the

Chinese Refugee Relief Organization that you represent?

When was it formed, where is its headquarters?

Mr. LEE. We were formed June 1 this year, right after this mass

refugee exodus in the middle of May.

Senator Fong. You have only begun your work .

Mr. LEE. Yes.

Now , we have an office on K Street, 1612 K Street.

Mrs. Chenault is the president, Mr. Anderson is the secretary , my

self is treasurer .

Senator Fong. You said you have just returned from Hong Kong,

Mr. Lee. Could you tell us whether there is enough food for the peo

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ple in Hong Kong, for those who are termed refugees ; food, clothing,

shelter ?

Mr. LEE. From my observation, I do not believe they had enough ,

because I personally saw a lot of people suffering from malnutrition.

I was told by a doctor that the most part of them may lose their eye

sight if nothingis done inthe near future.

Apparently the food did not have enough vitamins to sustain their

health .

Senator Fong. Did you make inquiry as to whether the amount of

assistance that the U.Š. Government is giving to the government of

Hong Kong would take care ofthese people sufficiently ?

Mr. LEE . I asked about assistance, and I found out we gave a lot 1

of money. There could be more. It could be handled in a better

form .

I appreciatedafter I came backand learned that a lot of work has

been done. But I think more food, more different kinds of food , and

medical supplies, should be given to them . And above all, I believe

there should be some kind of_better organized on the refugee part.

Right now, if you are in Hong Kong you will see they are all over

in different places. There could be more housing, better environment

for the refugees. After all, they have been there over 10 years, alot

of them . Some of them , after a few years, are still living in that

condition .

I think there is room for improvement.

Senator Fong. I have no further questions, Mr. Chairman.

Senator HART. Again, Mr. Lee, our thanks. And I do hope that as

the weeks go on , your organization's efforts will find a hearty public

response .

Mr. LEE . Thank you.

Senator Hart . Now we will hear from Mr. Samuel E. Yee .

STATEMENT OF SAMUEL E. YEE, CHINESE -AMERICAN CITIZENS

ALLIANCE , SAN FRANCISCO, CALIF .; ACCOMPANIED BY NGAI

HO HONG AND EARL LOUIE

Mr. YEE. Mr. Chairman , members of the subcommittee, as back

ground for my presentation, my name is Samuel E.Yee. I'have been

a practicing attorney for 16 or 17 years. For the past decade I have

been assistant city attorney for the city and countyof San Francisco.

I have had considerable activity with the Optimist Club and the

Lions Club in San Francisco, which , as all of you know, is popularly

known as the largest Chinatown outside of China. I have been presi

dent of those two organizations.

I have also been president of the golf club there, and various other

organizations. I have served as director on various community com

mittees, including two terms as director of the American Cancer Soc

iety in San Francisco, and also of the American Red Cross.

Myappearancehere today,however,is as the grand secretary of the

Chinese -American Citizens Alliance .

Senator Fong. Mr. Chairman, I can vouch for Mr. Yee. I have

known him for quite a few years now. He is a very, very respected

member of the community in San Francisco. He is widely known.

He is a very able lawyer .

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We are very happy to have you with us.

Mr. YEE.Thank you, Senator.

Senator Hart. I am very grateful to have this kind of introduction.

Mr. YEE. I regret only I am not from Hawaii, Mr. Chairman .

For the record, Mr. Chairman , I would like to introduce and read

into the record a letter I have here from theHonorable George Chris

topher, mayor of the city and county of San Francisco ..

To the Chairman and Members of the Refugee and Escapee Subcommittee of the

Senate Judiciary Committee :

Mr. Chairman and members of this subcommittee, owing to the fact that San

Francisco has the largest Chinese population of any city in the Nation , the matter

of being of assistance to Chinese escapee refugees now residing in Hong Kong,

British Colony, is a matter of particular interest to the city and county of San

Francisco. Because of budgetary limitations, charter and other statutory pro

visions, Chinese refugees must of necessity be voluntary.

Following a recent meeting which I held on this meeting with leading citizens

of the Chinese community of San Francisco, including my own Chinese Advisory

Committee, San Francisco Chinese people now are consulting further among

themselves to develop a voluntary program which might help in alleviating the

plight of refugees still in Hong Kong, and in facilitating the relocation of any

such Chinese immigrant that might come to our city.

We assure you that any Chinese refugees who may be legally admitted to the

United States will be welcomed by the San Franciscans, with our traditional

friendship for the Chinese people.

Sincerely yours,

GEORGE CHRISTOPHER , Mayor.

Senator Hart. Mr. Yee, we do thank Mayor Christopher for that

kind of reaction. It is not surprising. I am sure it is typical of the

tradition of San Francisco . But it is wonderful to have itspelled out

for us, and put into the record here.

Mr. YEE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman .

Senator Fong. Mr. Yee, when Mayor Christopher said the Chinese

refugees would be welcome in San Francisco, did he imply that the

Chinese community would be able to take care of them ?

Mr. YEE. No, he didnot imply that, but I think he was" under the

gun” in this matter, Mr. Chairman, because, as you recall, when the

New York Giants first came to San Francisco, Willy Mays had trou

ble getting accommodations, and the mayor offered him accommoda

tions . And I think the mayor certainly will stretch a point here, and

do the best he can for any refugee.

Senator Fong. In San Francisco, there are many Chinese residing

there ?

Mr. YEE . That is correct.

Senator Fong. And almost every surname has a society, and these

societies do take care of their people ?

Mr. YEE. That is correct .

Senator Fong. Help them in every way, tosee that they find employ

ment, help them in every way to keep off of the public welfare rolls ?

Mr. YEE. That is true .

Senator Fong. See that they keep their dignity and self -respect ?

Mr. YEE. That is right, Senator Fong.

For the record, as I have already indicated, I am making a state

ment here on behalf of the Chinese-American Citizens Alliance.

At the outset may we state that the Chinese -American Citizens Al

liance is an organization of American citizens of Chinese descent with

the grand lodge situated and located in San Francisco, Calif., and

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various local lodges in thecities of San Francisco , Los Angeles, Oak

land, Portland,Chicago, Salinas, Fresno, Houston, San Antonio and

Albuquerque. This organization has a long and continued history

of more than 50 years activity and work in promoting the general

welfare and status of its members and the Chinese communities

throughout the country .

In addition, the concerted and unified program of the grand lodge

and its local lodges are geared to the quickening of the spirit of Ameri

can patriotism ,to insure not only the legal rights of all Chinese

American citizens but to secure to them equal economical and political

opportunities and concurrently to continually reaffirm to them their

correlative rights, duties and obligations as such citizens.

The recentinflux of Chinese escapee-refugees from the Chinese

mainland into the British Crown Colony of Hong Kong and the re

sultant attempts andefforts by the British authorities therein to cope

with the various problems confronting them have resulted in world

wide publicity, not only as to the political ideologies involved , but as

to the present responsibilities for alleviating the economic andsocial

problems faced by these escapee-refugees presently in Hong Kong.

Various groups and organizations in the Metropolitan San Francisco

Bay Area, both Chinese and otherwise, are presently vitally interested

and concerned in rendering aid and sustenance to these unfortunate

displaced persons, many of whom are relatives and loved ones.

As partially stated in the preamble to the Senate resolution now

pending before this honorable subcommitteee, political considerations

demand that we apply the most liberal and generous doctrine and

criteria in granting refuge and asylum to these unfortunates from the

mainland of China.

In addition, any consideration or refuge you may recommend after

this hearing will be entirely consistent and in full accord with the

purpose and policy of the United States in joining with all member

nations of the United Nations in promoting the World Refugee Year

program during the period from July 1, 1959, to June 30, 1960.

A favorable recommendation on the resolution before you is called

for by this country's traditional principles of humanity, sympathy,

and interest in the welfare of other peoples of the world. The World

Refugee Year was the initial step in aworldwide effort to aid in re

solving the world refugee problem . The results under that pilot

program are both gratifying and enlightening, but much remains to

be done. Much can be accomplished here by you.

The provisions of Senate Resolution 346 will serve to focus at

tentionand interest, not only on the refugee situation now existing

in Hong Kong, but throughout the world t, hey will encourage addi

tional opportunities by both governmental, private and voluntary

agencies for the summary solution of the various facets of the refugee

situation on a purely humanitarian, moral and charitable basis, and

of prime import, with the freely expressed wishes of the displaced

refugees themselves. Your resolution as presently drafted represents

a conscientious and well-planned effort to alleviate, not only the im

mediate, but the long-termed, problems created by the Hong Kong

situation.

The opportunities for immediate and permanent refugee solutions,

through parole and voluntary repatriation, resettlement or integra

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tion, with due regard for humanitarian and moral considerations and

the wishes of the refugees themselves and the encouragement of addi

tional financial and other material contributions from other sources

engendered by your favorable action here are all clearly within the

statement of purpose behind the promotion of the recent World

Refugee Year.

Your action here will stand forth as the brilliant and shining ex

emplar for others to follow . It should bring home to all nations and

thepeoples of the world that the principlesthat motivated ourpart

in the World Refugee Year did not end there but are brought forth

again and again when the situationdemands as in the present instance .

The urgency of the situation in Hong Kong coupled with the pub

licity surrounding this hearing resulted recently in a meeting of lead

ing members of the Chinese community, the press and the mayor of

the city and county of San Francisco . As a result of that meeting,

Hon . George Christopher, chief executive officer of that great city by

the Golden Gate will presently recommend to the board of super

visors the immediate passage of a resolution memorializing the Presi

dent and Congress for favorable action on the resolution before you.

I might state parenthetically that the Chinese community have

formulated plans calling for public donation of financial aid, food,

and other material aid for the benefit of the organizations in Hong

Kong.

Atthe same time, the mayor will issue a public proclamation calling

on all the people of the city and county of San Francisco for these

donations.

However, the mayor has indicated , and I will so advise the China

town Committee, that any work or any contribution that will be made

by this committee in Chinatown will be made within legal limitation,

and will not violate the jurisdiction of any State, Federal or foreign

government.

Before any of these donations, whether it is money or other material

goods, is sent to Hong Kong, we will have proper clearance from the

authorities in Hong Kong.

Now , directing our attention to the provisions of the resolution :

This organization is in full and hearty accord with each particular

section of the same for the reasons expressedabove. However, we do

wish to comment briefly on the provisions of section 2 relativeto the

parole provisions under Public Law 86–648. As presently worded the

Tatter act provides that ,

the Attorney General shall discontinue paroling refugee -escapees pursuant to

section 1 of this act on July 1, 1962.

We strongly recommend an extension of the cutoff date for the

paroling of such refugee -escapees. Section 2 , Resolution 346, further

provides that preference in paroling refugees should be given

to family reunion cases, to those who have already applied for admission to

the United States, and to professionals, specialists and skilled workers who can

make a significant contribution to American society .

Under ordinary conditions we have no objection to the further

paroling of those refugees who ( 1 ) have already applied for admission,

and (2 ) professionals,specialists and skilled workers.

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The feeling of this organization, however, is that these two groups

have been the chief beneficiaries in the past. Due to the urgency of

the present situation and in line with recent administrative and legis

lativepolicies as they relate to the provisions of the Immigration

and Nationality Act we feel that preference at this time should be

given solely to family reunion cases and to those who are relatives of

citizens and permanent residents in this country,

Several other cogentfactors compel this preference. Paroled refu

gees with family ties in this country will be assured of temporary

financial and material aid without the danger of becoming public

charges. In addition, existence of family ties will create less security

risk problems. Assistance and job opportunities, where necessary,

will be created by relatives and friends without competition to local

job-seekers. Such refugees will find it easier to be assimilated into

the proverbial“ melting-pot of America."

Finally, many, if notmost, of these refugees have been supported

by funds sent to them by local resident citizens, friends and relatives.

Termination of this huge outgo of funds will result in great benefit to

this country in line with our recent efforts to obtain a more favorable

monetary balance.

We further recommend that after a proper security check that

documentation for qualification as a refugee be kept at a minimum ,

and that an administrative ruling be made establishing a maximum

charge or fee, where such is permitted, by those individuals or organi

zations assisting in the processing of an application on behalf of a

refugee or a sponsor for arefugee.

Now I know, members of the committee, that various solutions have

been offered to you here prior to my appearance, and probably by other

speakers after me.

Our organization realized that the refugee problem is a continuing

one . And the other speakers probably will be more cognizant of

conditions as they exist in Hong Kongat the present time. But we

do feel that your resolution at this time, 346,is a stopgap measure.

It pertains to the immediate crisis that is in Hong Kong.

We have not endeavored to advise you or make any recommenda

tion to this committee relative to any long-term program , as far as the

immigration law is concerned . We feel that, as I have already indi

cated , it is a stopgap measure to relieve the refugee problem in Hong

Kong.

However, our organization has made a continued study of the

immigration law and the naturalization law since the date of the

present act, back in 1952.

Now, we have studied the provisions of various acts introduced

in both Houses of Congress. And we find at the present time that

Senate bill 3043, I think introduced by the chairman himself here,

meets the requirements for amending, revising, and deleting certain

portions of the present Immigration Act, which has great merit.

Our committee on immigration of our organization, the grand

lodge, has concluded that this represents one of the most conscientious

efforts up to the present time. As a result of that, approximately a

month ago we had passed a resolution endorsing this particular act,

and we recommended to all our local lodges that this act be passed ,

and we have asked all the local lodges to contact their individual

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House of Representatives Members, and also their Senators, in sup

port of Senate bill 3043.

However, I realize that this is no place to consider Senate bill 3043,

although we do personally feel that this is the act that is called for,

not only as President Eisenhower did some years ago, but also as

part of President Kennedy's program for the revision of the Immi

gration Act, which certainly is needed .

I thank the members of this committee for making it possible for

me to be here today.

Senator HART. We thank you very much , Mr. Yee. Thank you

forthe added comment with respect to this basic immigration bili.

Having made your determination that the proposal is, at least on

its face, adesirable one, I congratulateyou on thepractical steps you

have now initiated to try and bring it into being.

Mr. YEE.. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Senator Fong. You know there are 25 cosponsors on this Immigra

tion Act, with Senator Hart ?

Mr. YEE. Yes, Senator Fong.

Senator HART. Including Senator Fong.

Senator Fong. I am quite sure that the act should not have too

much trouble in the Senate. But I think there should be a lot of

work inthe House. Maybe your lodge could help us.

Mr. YEE . Yes, we have been warned of that, and we shall make

every effort, Senator, toward the House part, too.

Senator Fong. I am very happythat you have brought to our at

tention that the parole provision of the immigration law will termi

nate - on July1 did you say ?

Mr. YEE. Yes. That is the cutoff date under the law as it is pres

ently worded. I have not heard of any extension of that date.

Senator Fong. So if that goes into effect, there will be no more

paroling of any refugees in the country. So there is only a month

more for the parole of refugees in this country.

You made a point of paroling people who have relatives in this

country ,and that is a very fine point.

I think your reasons for having the parole system extend preferen

tially tothesepeople have a lot ofmerit.

Mr. YEE . We feel this way , Senator: Since we have before us at

the present time the consideration of a resolution 346, which I have

indicated is a stopgap thing, on that basis we do not feel, and we do

not advocate, theopen -doorpolicy ofpermitting refugees to come in.

I thinkthat is developingsomething for along -rangeprogram , some

thing that might be added on to Senator Hart's bill in the Senate.

For the present time, we should only consider the admission of a

few thousand refugees at most. And that is not meant as a permanent

solution to the refugee problem in Hong Kong, but more as an ex

emplar, and as an example for other nations and other people, to

show that this country is cognizant of the condition there , and that

at least if we do not offer a permanent solution, we are atleast offer

ing a temporary one, to show that our heart is in the right place.

Senator Fong. That is a very fine place.

The American Government should take the leadership in showing

to the world that we do believe in human dignity, and we do feel that

a man who hopes for freedom and liberty should have an opportunity.

You did refer here in your statement to the fact that 1960 was

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WorldRefugee Year. Probably you did not rememberthat, although

we took the initial step in having it named as World Refugee Year.

We took the lead by words, but not by action .

Mr. YEE. I think the statistics would indicate that, too .

Senator FONG . By action , we were followers, rather than leaders.

We did saythat if other nations would take three refugees, we would

take aa fourth one.

Mr. YEE . That is right. We are supported to take 25 percent, but

we did not follow on that.

Senator Fong. Yes. And then we closed our eyes to the refugees in

the Middle East and the Far East. And Senator Hart will remember

our fight to give the Attorney General the authority to bring in 4,500

refugees from the Middle East and the Far East.

We prevailed in the Senate by an amendment to the immigration

bill that was before us,but in conference we lost that.

So World Refugee Year does not stand out as a beacon of American

leadership, but rather more as an example of followship.

Senator Hart. I shall never forget that debate on the Senate floor

when Senator Fong spoke to the conscience of the Senate and affected

emotions very strongly. That is why the bill won in the Senate. Too

bad you could not have made the same speech in the House.

Mr. Johnson ?

Mr. JOHNSON . Well, I only wanted to call attention to what Senator

Fong hasalready noted that for Public Law 86-648 to be applicable

to the refugees in Hong Kong, it would not only need an extension

beyond June 30, but would also need the amendment which Senator

Fong offered on the Senate floor 2 years ago.

Senator HART. This is not - I doubt if I can frame it as a question.

And itis a dangerousthing to put on a record, II suspect . But you

speak, I take it, for all of the Chinese-American community, young

as well as old, when you state that you have absolute confidence that

Chinese refugees would be received and welcomed in the Chinese

American community in San Francisco.

Is it your impression that the young Chinese-American feels just

as strongly about this as the man of 70 who has spent the first 30 or

40 yearsof his life on the mainland of China ?

Mr. YEE. I would say this, Mr. Chairman : The feeling for accept

ance of these refugees, without any qualification, would come gen

erally from the older Chinese and the middle-aged Chinese of the

community, and also those who arein business. I am afraid that with

the second- or third -generation Chinese, who were born and raised

here, and who are removed one or two generations from the first

Chinese that came over here, I think their interests are not so closely

allied with the people in Hong Kong, because of the fact that they

have little or no family relationshipwith those people, and by the

fact that the younger generation, the second, third, andeven the fourth

generation, are mostly those who are highly educated, working for

civil service, and who have no difficulty in finding work, and are not

cognizant of the problem that is existing in Hong Kong.

So that is whyI say it is purely withthe first and second generation,

probably, and those who do have relatives in China, who will accept

them , and not the younger generation.

Now, my organization that I represent is the leading Chinese

organization of American citizens. But they do — and they have

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worked for more than 50 years on this problem . And they are the

ones that are taking an interest.

Now , prior to my coming out here, with my colleagues Mr. Louie

and Mr. Hong, I was approached by the president of two large Chinese

corporations out there, chainstores, a market, and another organiza

tion, and they were very interested in getting these refugees over here,

because they felt that they could give an opportunity for work to

those people.

And, as a matter of fact, one of the presidents of a chainstore,

grocery, in particular, asked me whether it was possible if they can

sponsor so many refugees over here.

I wonder if that would answer your question.

Senator HART. I should explain , I am sure, why I asked it as I did.

I think it is pretty evident that across America the concern of the

younger generation in our large ethnic groups is not as sharp — the

sympathy which you find with the olderman or woman is not there.

Indeed, you get a generation or two removed, and the reaction to

immigration would suggest the fellow had been here to greet the

pilgrims. I was just wondering whether it was different in the

Chinese community .

Mr. YEE . Some people might disagree with me, but I do not think

it is any different from anyother racial group .

Thank you again, Mr. Chairman and members of the committee.

Senator HART. Thank you very much .

Next we will hear fromMr. Irving S. K. Chin.

Mr. Chin, we welcome you, sir.

STATEMENT OF IRVING SHEU KEE CHIN , ATTORNEY OF

HOLTZMANN , WISE & SHEPARD, NEW YORK , N.Y.

Mr. CHIN. Mr. Chairman, Senator Fong, and members of the com

mittee, at the outset,I would like to express my profound appreciation

to this committee for the opportunity to speak on behalf of the

Chinese community of the United States regarding the Chinese

refugee situation.

I am Irving Sheu Kee Chin, an American born inChicago , Ill.,

whose parents originally came from Canton, China. I received my

B.A. in history from Yale University. Upon graduation, I was com

missioned into the U.S. Air Force and served as an intelligence officer.

Upon separation from service, I entered Harvard Law School and

graduated in 1958. I am associated with Holtzmann, Wise & Shep

ard , a Wall Street type firm in the general practice of law.

It is with a great sense of responsibility that I undertake the im

mense task of speaking for the Chinese community on this vital issue

confronting us. My contacts with the Chinese community have been

close anddeeply-rooted through civic organizations, business associa

tions, and student groups. From my experience as president of the

Chinatown Junior Chamber of Commerce, dean of the Chinese Chris

tian Youth Conference of the East Coast, and legal counsel to the

Chinatown Trade Association of New York, I feel confident that most

of the statements contained herein represent the heartfelt convictions

of the Chinese people though I would not have the temerity to sug

gest that all the opinions are universally shared .

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CHINESE COMMUNITY REACTION

We in the Chinese community warmly endorse and feel fresh en

couragement from President Kennedy's humanitarian position .

Furthermore, we are, indeed , most grateful to this committee for its

sincere and diligent efforts to deal with this most serious problem .

All Chinese in the United States, whether born here or in China,

share a common feeling toward the Chinese refugees in Hong Kong,

to wit, sympathy mixed with grave concern crystallized into a firm

desire to help their less fortunate brethren . The flood of refugees

manifests the utter failure of the " great leap forward" and the

"communes" system as the attempt to accelerateindustrialization has

been at the tragic price of human lives. The victims of such policies,

i.e., the refugees in Hong Kong, deserve the combined aid of the U.S.

Government and the Chinese community.

The Chinese here are in universal agreement as to the necessity of

increasing the number of refugees permitted into this country by

emergency legislation . The suffering masses crying for help merit

an answering call of aid from us, not only for humanitarian reasons,

but also because it would constitute demonstrative proof to the non

Communist world and those nations presently Red enslaved, that the

United States stands ready to help her friends against Communist

oppression .

While the final decision on admission of refugees must naturally be

based on these hearings and rest on the recommendations of this com

mittee, the hope shared by all is that the number of refugees per

mitted entry be a liberal one, after properly weighing all the deter

minating factors concerned . Not only will the Chinese in the United

States and overseas watch the legislation carefully , but also all

orientals throughouttheworld. The reason is that the United States

opened her doors to the Hungarian freedom fighters after their valient

effort failed . Furthermore , the Cuban refugees who have numbered

over 100,000 thus far are still migrating to the United States fleeing

Castro's megalomaniac rule. We both warmly support the entry of

the Hungarian and Cubans and thoroughly endorse this action by

America which still remains a haven and a beacon light for the op

pressed. Similarly, we hope that the Chinese will be accorded a liberal

number for entry to destroy, once and for all, the charge from some

parts ofthe world that the U.S. relegates the orientals on a different

standard, namely, "second class people ". The soundest refutation of

these charges would be a generous number of refugees admitted. Then

the prestige of the United Statesas a truly democratic leader of the

free world would be strengthened and solidified, particularly among

the nonwhite areas of the world . Such action would prove beyond

the shadow of aa doubt that the United States displays equal treatment

to all peoples regardless of race, color or creed.

Concomitant with emergency legislation for refugee entry should

be a thorough revision and more liberal increase in the annual Chinese

immigration quota. Outof the 154,657 immigrants allowed bystatute

to enter these shores each year, only 105 are allotted to the Chinese.

Some quotas from other countries are as high as 65,361 from Great

Britain and Northern Ireland which quota at times passes unfilled.

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One discriminatory feature contained in the present immigration laws

leads to an anomalous and illogical result. A Chinese born in London,

England, as a bona fide British subjectwhen he applies for immigra

tion to the United States is placed not in the largeBritish quota,but

rather is added to the already small 105 Chinese quota, just because

he is Chinese. Essential changes remedying such inequitable results

are strongly advocated.

THE CHINESE CONTRIBUTION TO THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE

The Chinese people have contributed to the American way of life

by being professionally useful citizens, and by being a model for both

family structure as well as a close -knit community group . We, who

are children of two cultures, feel indebted to both. In addition we

can readily see how the people have added the best of the Chinese

culture to the "melting pot” knownas America.

Once given the advantages of education and the freedom of oppor

tunity as it exists in America, the modern Chinese integrates well into

the American society while simultaneously contributing his talents

toward American growth and progress. Thus, the professions of

medicine, law , psychiatry, teaching, engineering, and science are

staffed with Chinese who are making their markin the professional

world. Engineers of Chinese ancestry now work in perfecting elec

tronic defense projects and missiles for the protection of America as

well as being involved on the space satellite program .

The presentation of the highly coveted Nobel Prize award to two

young Chinese here in America for their contributions in the field of

physics illustrates how well the Chinese are integrating into the society

and contributing to America's progress. It should be noted that many

of the refugees on the proposed first preference quota have professional

skills and qualifications and will eventually be of service to the

community.

In the area of sociology, the strong family ties, inner control and

discipline found in the Chinese family have been repeatedly hailed

and cited for the nonexistence of juvenile delinquency. The respect

for law and order coupled with the high degree of family pride and

training are factors derived from the Chinese culture. The industri

ous family working together will also be characterized in the new

refugees.

Another proud record set by the Chinese people is the absence of a

need for public welfare or for the care of the aged where the Chinese

community is concerned .

Once again , the Confucian filial piety and respect for the elders as

practiced in the community eliminatesthe need for welfare workers.

The aged , the sick, the less fortunate — all their wants are satisfied.

Thus,whatever the needs of the new refugees may be, we anticipate

that the Chinese community will once again rise to the task of helping

our neighbors if any unforeseen exigencies should occur.

We are quite confident that there will be no public charges, no juve

nile delinquency , no unemployment problem as these new immigrant

Americans eagerly await the richestblessing of all — a new life .

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PROPOSALS FOR U.S. GOVERNMENT AID

The following suggestions are offered only as possible recommenda

tions to this committee and are made in that spirit. I fully realize

that the committee has access to facts, data and Government policies

which the public does not have available. In the final analysis, the

committee is the best judge of which proposals are feasible of accom

plishment. Itis, therefore, respectfully requested that the U.S. Gov

ernment consider the following:

1. Increase the number of refugees from Hong Kong permitted

entry into the United States by emergency powers and legislation to

a reasonable number after weighing the human needs of the refugees

versus the responsibilities of the U.S. Government toward its citizens.

2. Increase the annual immigration quota over the present 105

figure and eliminate certain discriminatory features of the present

laws.

3. Initiate through the UnitedNationsa program whereby all coun

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tries throughout the world would relax their immigration restrictions

to permit Chinese refugees.

4. Direct assistance by the U.S. Government to the Hong Kong

refugees when the situation so demands for food, clothing, and hous

ing ; supplying transportation to refugees for resettlement or entry

into the United States.

5. Investigate thefeasibilityof resettlement of Chinese refugees on

islands over which the United Nations has Trusteeship responsibility.

6. Propose to the Inter -American Organization the desirability of

allowing more Chinese workers in, particularly in countries which

already had an active program to obtain Hong Kong labor even prior

to the recent Hong Kongheadlines.

7. Establishment of rehabilitation centers similar to the Hungarian

Reception Center which would be staffed primarily with Chinese lin

guists. These centers will serve as processing centers on entry.

8. Elimination of the requirements for citizenship in some nonsen

sitive area work where the individual would be eligible except for said

requirement.

9. Coordinating with Taiwan to see that refugees desiring to be re

settled there be given the opportunity to do so .

10. Propose through the United Nations or by multilateral agree

ments for joint effort to build additional housing units, hospitals, and

schools either in Hong Kong, if possible, or outside.

THE SUPPORTING ROLE OF THE CHINESE COMMUNITY IN THE REFUGEE

PROGRAM

The Chinese community has an important role to play in the ad

mission and adjustment of refugees. It is incumbent that we orga

nize all our skills and talents to assist these cold war victims who will

be living in a completely new environment with the expectant inci

dental problems connected thereto.

A genuine aroused interest and enthusiasm permeates the various

organizations with whom I have talked and themutual feeling is to

help the incoming refugees. We welcome the challenge and possess

the ability and capability of accomplishing our goals. In addition,

we feel that not only is there an opportunity to actively help those

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refugees in Hong Kong with material needs as food, clothing and

housing, but as equally important, to work on a nationally coordi

nated effort to help the newcomers adjust as smoothly and as quickly

as possible.

We are cooperating with the Chinese refugee relief which has the

endorsement of President Kennedy. Mrs. Claire Chennault, its

president, met with us in New York City last Sunday to discuss with

various Chinese and non- Chinese groups and individuals the possi

bility of such a coordinated effort with regional committees. We

hope to have an effective New York committee organized soon .

Speaking as the president of the Chinatown Junior Chamber of

Commerce , we anticipate working with the Chinese refugee relief

as wellas with church groups and international organizations in

( a) Fund-raising campaigns to finance projects in Hong Kong and

to be used on entering refugees.

( 6 ) Offering our bilingualcapabilities from the community in the

rehabilitation centers, guidance seminars, and vocational training

centers where interpreters may be needed .

( c) Organizing a clearinghouse for information as to work needs of

the employers and employees, immigration bottlenecks, et cetera .

It is my wish to propose that both the State and National levels of

the junior chamber of commerce adopt “HongKongRefugees” as its

community project. Thus,each Chinese family might be assisted by

the local junior chamber of commerce group whichwould take on a

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sustained " welcome wagon " approach. It is perhaps fitting that this

year's World Congress of the Junior Chamber ofCommerce Inter

national will be held in Hong Kong. It is to be desired that those

young men throughout the world, meeting in Hong Kongmight make

their presence felt in their respective governments to aid this cause.

These organizational plans to help the new incoming refugee to

the United States can only be accomplished after legislation is pro

mulgated from this committee. This matter, gentlemen , lies in your

capable hands. It is my earnest appeal to this committee on behalf

of the Chinese community of the United States to heed the humani

tarian call ; to show that America continues its long friendship with

the Chinese people in contradistinction to the Red regime now in

power ; to give the opportunity to those refugees to produce someday

another Albert Einstein or another Nobel Prize winning Chinese ; to

demonstrate beyond a doubt that the United States practices what it

preaches about equality by putting democracy into action ; to show that

the melting pot theory is fact, not fantasy ; and to prove that America

is still the land of opportunity .

Let these new immigrants feel the thrill of coming to the " land of

the free and the home of the brave." Let them experience the hope

and joy pounding in their breasts as they view the Statue of Liberty

and hear these immortal wordsechoingonce again :

“Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me

I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

Gentlemen , I thank you for your kind attention.

Senator HART. Mr. Chin , thank you .

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That is a statement which, for many reasons, bears reading and re

reading by many, many people.

The record will include also the summary biography which you have

attached .

( The biographical sketch follows :)

IRVING SHEU KEE CHIN

Born : Chicago , Ill.

Yale University, B.A. History, 1953 :

1. S. Wells Williams Scholarship holder.

2. Scholar of the second rank ( Dean's list ) .

3. Undergraduate Deacon.

4. Yale Chinese Students Club .

5. Yale Glee Club .

6. Distinguished Military Student USAF ROTC.

7. Dwight Hall Christian Association ; Inter -Church Council.

8. Far Eastern Club .

USAF, Intelligence Office, 1953–55 :

1. 4602d Air Intelligence Service Squadron under Headquarters ADC

whose mission was the interrogation of enemy crewmen in the event of

enemy attack ; training in area studies, languages, Morse code, mountain

climbing, swamp survival, communications, airborne operations, and tech

nical intelligence.

2. Briefing officer to General Agee of the 9th Air Division .

3. Third prizewinner in all -service national and international essay contest

in 1954 on “ What America Means to Me ” sponsored by the Freedom Founda

tion of Valley Forge.

4. Citation from Secretary of the U.S. Air Force on this award .

Harvard Law School, 1955-58 :

1. Elected by the Class of 1958 to Class Committee.

2. Appointed by the Harvard Corporation to the Board of Freshman

Advisers of Harvard College.

3. Freshman Proctor of Haryard College.

4. Member of the Faculty Club.

5. Chairman of the Chinese Christian Youth Conference of the East

Coast.

( a ) Delegates from New York, Boston, Washington , Cleveland, Balti

more, Toronto, and Philadelphia .

( 6 ) Sponsoring Churches (New York, Washington, Boston , Phila

delphia ) .

Holtzmann, Wise & Shepard, New York , N.Y.

1. President of the Chinatown Junior Chamber of Commerce.

2. Dean of the Chinese Christian Youth Conference of the East Coast.

3. Legal Counsel to the Chinatown Trade Association of New York .

4. Member of the Chinese Lawyers Association, American Bar Associa

tion , New York County Bar Association, and New York State Bar

Association .

5. Reserve officer of USAFR .

Senator HART. I note that you were born in Illinois, but your

parents were born in China.

Mr. CHIN. That is correct.

Senator Hart. The record earlier I think may have indicated this

if not, it is a statement that might be repeated in any event, for the

understanding of the witnesses, and the others who read it.

It is quite true that the Committee on the Judiciary in the Senate

is responsible for the development and the handling of legislation

which would direct the admission of refugees, and which would

change the basic immigration laws.

This subcommittee of the Committee on the Judiciary, however,

does not have the responsibility or authority to process the legislation

itself. This is the responsibility of the Subcommittee on Immigration.

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The responsibility of this subcommittee is to advise the Senate and

the Committee on the Judiciary with respect to problems across the

world involving refugees from communism .

I say that before responding to some of the specific points that you

make in this excellent paper .

Senator Fong and I certainly agree with you that there is need for

change in the basic immigration admission policy. You have spelled

it out here.

You cite as one aspect a Chinese born in England, a bona fide

British subject, who must find his place in the long line of the tiny

Chinese quota, instead of the lineof the much larger and not totally

used British quota . This is a problem I see personally .

Just across the river from Detroit in Windsor, Ontario, a 10 - cent

bus ride from downtown Detroit-- the same rules apply to a Chinese

born there.

There are so many of these basic features about our immigration

policy that must raise a question in the minds of others elsewhere in

the world about the sincerity of our proclamation that we do measure

every man as an individual .

Your statement of it is wonderfully well done. I end up as I be

gan — I hope many, many people will read it and think about it.

Senator Fong ?

Senator FONG . Mr. Chairman , I thank you for a very, very fine,

comprehensive statement on this whole problem . I note that you did

things in reverse from President Kennedy. You went to Yale and

then you wentto Harvard. I note he went to Harvard first, and got

a degree from Yale the other day.

Relative to the problem of the Chinese born in London , who is

regarded as a Chinese and cannot come as a Britisher, that reminds

me of the bill I introduced for the wife of a Spanish professor who

was teaching in a school in Honolulu . He was of Spanish ancestry,

but his wife was of Chinese ancestry. He was allowed to come to the

school in Honolulu to teach, but his wife was not allowed to come,

because she was of Chinese ancestry. So I had to introduce a bill

here, and had her charged to theSpanish quota.. By doing that she

was allowed to come under the Spanish quota, and she finally was

admitted .

.. Now , Mr. Chin , you urge the admission ofChinese refugees, and you

feel that the 105 quota is a very , very small quota in relation to the

156,000 refugees that are admitted to the United States.

There are quite a number of people in theUnited States who will

disagree withyou as to whetherwe should allow any more Orientals

to come into the country.

Proponents of the larger immigration quota have neglected to use

one argument which I think will do much to soften opposition. The

argument that has been advanced most strongly as to why we should

limit the Oriental quota is that we do not want our mores and cus

toms, and things we are accustomed to, influenced by Oriental cul

ture. But when you look at the census of the United States, the last

census, and I had a chance to examine it, and relate the number of

Oriental people and non -Caucasian people in the United States in

relation to the population of the United States, you will find it is a

very revealing picture.

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Of the 180 million people in the United States, 10 percent, or ap

proximately 18 million, have some Negro blood. And of the non

Caucasian people, outside of the Negro people, there are approxi

mately 500,000 American Indians. And whenyou look at the figures,

as they pertain to the Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Filipinos, Indo

nesians, and the Polynesians, and they are all grouped as non -Cauca

sians, you find a very, very revealing story, that it is such a small

infinitesimal group on the American scene. This group comprises less

than one-halfof 1 percentof the total population of the United States.

The United States has 180 millionpeople, and there are approxi

mately 800,000 to 900,000 non -Caucasians -- that is, excluding the

Negroes and excluding the American Indian . - And of this 800,000

people, approximately one-half of them are found in the State of

Hawaii; that is, the census shows there are approximately 450,000

persons of Japanese ancestry. There are approximately 237,000 of

Chinese ancestry, approximately 177,000 of Filipino ancestry, a few

of Korean, Indonesian, and East Indian ancestry, and approximately

100,000 ofPolynesian ancestry.

All these, when added together, constitute approximately one- half

of 1 percent of the whole American population.

So to those who cry that you are going to orientalize America, that

you are going to bring in a foreign culture, and foreign customs that

will be determental to our culture, you can see that the argument does

not hold any water, because this is so small.

And I think once the American people realize how insignificant

the group is, that even if you doubled the whole number of double the

number of people of non-Caucasian ancestry here, you will increase

it to only 1 percentof the whole population.

Senator Hart. These figures I did not know. They are interesting.

Senator Fong. Theyare very interesting.

Senator HART. It will serve as an alibi for the Caucasians when we

are asked why is it that we have so many juvenile delinquents and the

non -Caucasians have so few . The alibi will be, there are so very few

non -Caucasians.

Senator Fong. That isvery true.

Mr. Chin. Could I add a point here ?

It would seem your last statement is true. However, I think it

might be interesting to evaluate the percentage of juvenile delinquents

byethnic groups,to show that the Chinese really have lived an

exemplary life, because I think that the numbers that are involved that

you ever read about are probably less than an iota of 1 percent.

I would like to stress apoint Imade in the talk which is in regard to

our position vis-a - vis the worldtoday.

Here we have let in many Hungarian fighters and Cuban refugees.

I believe the Cubans have numbered about 150,000. Now, I think

no one in the United States, whether he is Caucasian or Chinese, has

any qualms about this. We are very happy that these unfortunate

Cubans have been able to get into the United States. But when it

comes to the Chinese, I think it is very important that we make thisa

liberal number because the world, which is predominantly nonwhite

as you look at the number of colored people throughout the world

really does look at the way we practice our democracy and says, “Well,

how is it that you open the door a little ways for the Chinese, whereas

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for someone that you get involved with politically and closer to home,

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likeCuba, you allow more to come in ."

We think that equality in treatment in granting equal rights to im

migrants similar to the 14th amendment of the Constitution should

be applied inprinciple at this juncture.

Secondly, I would like to comment on the statement made by Mr.

Yee from San Francisco in reply to your question ; namely, "What is

the younger Chinese -American people's attitude toward allowing

these refugees from Hong Kong in ?”

I have had a great deal of contact with the Chinese young people.

I have worked with them in the Chinese Christian Youth Conference,

which is a religious group, nondenominational, extending throughout

the east coast of theUnited States. We have been in operation for

about 17 years. We have a sister conference in California, which

has been going for 25 years . We have delegatesfrom Toronto, Boston,

New York, Washington , Philadelphia and Cleveland. They come

from all over, so that we have a fairly fine representation there.

From our discussions with them , as well as with the many groups in

the New York area, I can state unequivocally that the young people

are just as concerned as the older people that the Hong Kong refugees

get the opportunity of freedom to come over here.

In spite of the fact that we of the younger generation who are first

born here in the United States have not lived in the old country,

nevertheless, we have, vicariously, experienced it, since our family

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training has taught us the Chinese culture as well as the family re

sponsibility and respect to the elders. Furthermore, many of us are

conversant in Chinese and are intimately acquainted with Chinese

problems. For example, IІ speak two dialects in Chinese in addition

to English, and have a knowledge of French . So I feel that the

younger generation is attuned tothe older generation in wanting to

help the refugees. It is particularly in the province of the young

generation wherein lies the hope, I feel, for the future. The older

generation was denied the rights to education which limited their

work opportunity. I think we are in a veryunique situation where we

have had the opportunity of education and have gone into all these

various fields. We have the power now to emphasize to the American

public the feeling that many of these Chinese in the past have felt of

discriminatory practices in excluding them , of being denied equal

rights to comeinto the United States.

On this point, I think that we are equally as concerned as the first

generation, or the man who is in his seventies, as to helping these peo

ple in Hong Kong. I just want to state for the record that the young

people are as strongly for the proposals as the older generation.

Senator Fong. Let meask you another question.

In San Francisco there are quite a numberof these societies, district

societies and clan societies. I presume in New York you have the

same number of societies.

Mr. CHIN. Well, I will not compare the actual numbers in the re

spective cities.

I know there are approximately 60 family associations in New York

City. We have the Chinese Benevolent Association as well as the

Chinese Chamber of Commerce, which represents many of the business

men . We have restaurant associations, and laundry associations.

We have approximately, I would say, 25 young people's groups.

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We have a Long Island circle, which contacted me just yesterday

about what they can do. I have been contacted by, I would say, at

least five or six different organizations very recently. And here I

found this universal feeling “What can we do to help the people ,

we want to either help them financially or help them adjust." And

I think this is where we in the younger group can work with the

older group in helping them , because once your committee and once the

United States does allow these refugees in, then comes the problem of

adjustment.

I think that we have this capability, in that we have the linguistic

background, including the knowledge of what problems a Chinese

faces in adjustment to America .

We think we can help them to get jobs. We are acquainted with

people who are in need for employment. The Junior Chamber of

Commerce sponsored this year a vocational guidance course running

for 3 weeks consecutively. We were able to bring in professionals

from each type of career that we could imagine. And we feel that

perhaps we can organize this across the board in every occupation,

both throughout this area and nationally, so that these people will be

able to work into the American scene much smoother than ifthey were

left to their own problems.

Senator Fong. What you are really saying is that your organiza

tion will do everything to see that they are taken careof, that they will

become good American citizens, and that they will not be public

charges.

Mr. CHIN . Yes.

As you mentioned quite well before, Senator Fong, the Chinese

associations have a splendid record in taking care of the old people,

and any problems which come up.

I know personally in New York there are cases where a husband

died and the widow was helped financially and in every other way

they could. The people are usually taken care of bythe association.

So that in practical numbers, I feel that there will be no public

charges. The United States can be assured we will do our utmost to

take care of any problems which arise .

Of course, this takes a lot of work by community-minded people.

I think that the expressions that have been made to me have indicated

that there is a universality of interest in this, and that many people

will work on these commitments.

Senator Fong. Was it not a characteristic of the old Chinese people

who first came to this country, first they would buy a cemetery to bury

their dead ?

Second, they would contribute for a clubhouse so that they could

meet, and when they get old they can live there !

Is that not characteristic of the Chinese people ?

Mr. CHIN . I suppose that is correct.

You are much older and therefore much wiser than I in that respect.

Senator Fong. You must have several Chinese cemeteries in New

York.

Mr. Chin . I think there are cemeteries in Brooklyn.

Senator Fong. Thank you.

Senator HART. Mr. Johnson ?

Mr. De Haan ?

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Mr. CHIN. I thank you.

Senator HART. Mr. Chin, we are very grateful to you.

Now, Mr. Ross I. Dixon, Shanghai Tiffin Club, New York City.

STATEMENT OF ROSS I. DIXON, PRESIDENT , SHANGHAI TIFFIN

CLUB, NEW YORK , N.Y.

Mr. Dixon . Mr. Chairman, I am Ross Dixon. I speak as a citizen

of the United States who lived in China and taught in a Chinese

school from 1943 to 1947, and as one who has maintained a deep and

active interest in China and the Chinese over the intervening years.

I am president of the Shanghai Tiffin Club, an organization composed

of over 300 Chinese and American members, nearly all of whom have

lived and worked in China. It was established in 1924. I am also

a trustee of the Yale- in- China Association which currently assists in

the support of New Asia College in Hong Kong.

Through the long dark days and years of World War II, one thing

alone sustained the Chinese in their agony. This was hope, their hope

for the future. It is around this concept, hope, this powerful, sus

taining, and activating idea that I wish to organize mybriefremarks.

This committee has heard much expert testimony delineating the

magnitude of the Chinese refugee problem which has recently been

brought into focus so forcefully in southeast Asia, particularly in

Hong Kong and to some extent, at least, similarly in Macao. The

thrust of large numbers of persons across the borders with the threat

of even vaster numbers lying behind have presented both a frighten

ing picture and have challenged the ingenuity and resources of the

free world .

The heroic efforts of the Government of Hong Kong to meet a

critical situation have been noted in the statements of several of the

representatives of the major professional organizations dealing with

refugees and their problems in the crown colony. It has been sug

gested before this committee and elsewhere that the Hong Kong au

thorities had little choice but to attempt to turn back the human tide

trying to breach their gates.

It is well known that within Hong Kong, itself, there is a con

tinuing and growing problem of staggering proportions. The testi

.

mony of the representatives of the major international refugee

agencies seems to indicate, however, that adequate supplies of food

exist and are being distributed cooperatively with crown colony au

thorities. Other items such as clothing, medical supplies, blankets,

and the like also appear to be available in sufficient quantity for all

but the most violently critical situation .

The essential problem defined by the facts presented to this com

mittee appears not to be one of the compelling need for more adequate

direct relief in terms of food, clothing, and medical supplies to sustain

human lives at the survival level. What is suggested is the need for

ạ carefully prepared long-range resettlement plan involving a co

operative international effort.

Supporting the lives of fellow human beings in their time of need

is, of course , a first necessity. But international welfare and relief

agency workers are , I am told, all too familiar with the grinding

human misery contained in refugee camps and depots which has con

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tinued for years on end until hope for the future is all but snuffed

out.

I should like to present for the consideration of this committee the

concept that almost more important than the need to sustain life,

itself, is the need to sustain hope, the hope of a better life to come.

I believe that mankind is happiest when productive and useful. If

this is true, it would appear, therefore, that the nations of the free

world might undertaketoaccept the responsibility of creating those

conditions necessary to rehabilitate and train and resettle at least a

substantial portion of those refugees which cling to the hillsides of

Hong Kong.

There is no easy solution to this refugee problem in Hong Kong and

Macao. There is no easy solution to any refugee problem when there

are large numbers of refugees fleeing from poverty, famine, or

tyranny. It is not suggested here that the countries of the free world

can absorb millions of refugees and thus solve the refugee problem .

It is suggested that a positive program can and should be undertaken

to demonstrate that free world citizens are interested in what happens

to their fellow human beings and are able to do something constructive

on their behalf. In this way hope is kept alive.

The refugee problem we are discussing cannot be considered a prob

lem for Hong Kong to solve. Nor should it be considered a problem

for the Republic of China (Taiwan ) to solve. These two areas are

already among the most highly populated in the world today. The

refugee problem is a free world problem and a free world challenge.

The United States is the leader of the free world and it provides

hope to men everywhere. I believe it can and should provide the

necessary leadership so that the entire free world can respond to a

critical problem in a constructive and positive way. This in itself

will give hope to peoples everywhere.

A fruitful avenue of approach might well be the exploration of

areas — and by this I mean world areas — where refugee farmers can

be resettled and productively used. Mutual benefits might accrue to

other areas and to refugees alike with the resettlement of fishermen

or workers where the labor supply is short. The United States, itself,

as evidence of a personal concern, could undoubtedly usefully admit a

larger number than the present immigration quota provides.

Other countries mightwell be more willingto admit Chinese refu

gees if assistance were givenwith the initial problems of resettlement

and adjustment. I should like to suggest at this point that the United

States is perhaps in a unique position to give assistance of this nature.

We have in thepublic sector and in our privateorganizations the pro

fessional personnel to give necessary guidance, should it be calledupon.

The enthusiastic response of our Nation's youth to the challenge

and opportunities provided by the Peace Corps for sustained periods

of direct service is well known. In this connection it should be noted

that there are nearly 5,000 Chinese students studying in the United

States. After careful consideration and negotiation it is possible that

a creativeand imaginative step might be taken by inviting a certain

number of these Chinese students to work with young Americans on

resettlement and its attendant problem in those areas where it would

be requested and appropriate.

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My remarks are intended to be suggestive only. I believe they may

be worthy of review by those chargedwith the responsibility of formu

lating and implementing our policies with respect to the refugee prob

lems we havebeen considering.

I should like to thank thiscommittee for the opportunity of pre

senting my views.

Senator Hart. Mr. Dixon, we do appreciate your expression of

views.

The point you suggest — that one of the basic, and really one of the

only long- term effective measures, is the easing of pressure through

resettlement across the world — the more we talk about this, and the

more people talk to us about it, the more persuasive it seems to me.

Some of these immediate, short -term , occasionally dramatic assists

are fine, but they do not get the nub of the problem by a long shot.

Mr. Dixon. Yes, sir.

Senator HART. You sketch very ably a direction about which I think

we should , as a people and as a government, have concern about.

May I inquire a little more about your own activities ?

You identify yourself in connection with your interest in China ?

Mr. Dixon. Professionally, I am a deputy director at the Institute

of International Education , which is a private organization dealing

with the exchange of students - sending Americans abroad and bring

ing foreign students to the United States.

As I say, we are a private organization, but we do hold certain

Government contracts, including administration of the Fulbright and

Smith -Mundt students, and so on .

I have all my life been connected with young people, either as a

teacher or in camp work, or in China. And I would like to perhaps

emphasize informally that I think that young people can beuseful

in this. There area great number of Chinese students in theUnited

States with whom I have considerable relationship. In a problem of

this nature, where Chinese refugees are involved, I think that they

might be enlisted, or invited, to serve in a kind of Peace Corps idea,

perhaps along with American young people, to provide the legwork

and this sort of thing.

I have here, if the chairman will permit me, an eyewitnessreport,

which I have excerpted violently, from one of our staff, Mr. Timothy

Light, who is a Yali bachelor at the New Asia College, who himself

went into the hills.

Would you like to hear a few sentences from this report ?

Senator HART. By all means. I think we would benefit by having

them made a part of the record, if there is nothing that is

embarrassing.

Mr. Dixon. No, and I think it would be very interesting.

It is by Timothy Light, a Yali bachelor at the New Asia College.

It was written in May 1962:

I have wanted to put down on paper what I have seen of the refugee flood

into Hong Kong, and now I have the time. A week ago Monday, that is,

May 13, Gregg Prince and I went to the new territories near one of the border

areas where many were coming in. Over the previous weekend, the numbers

had grown to large proportions, into the hundreds, and it was becoming a

fact, and not just rumor, that the Communist guards were for some reason not

hindering people from leaving the mainland .

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So we went to find a place to sleep and found one facing a hill that we later

learned was covered with newly escaped people, and continued to be so for

several days on end. Early in the morning we saw moving lights and fires at

either end of the ridge that crowned the hill. Soldiers had spent the night, too,

and they were getting the jump on the refugees sleeping in bushes before they

awoke.

When it was time to hurry back to town for class, we rode down in one of the

jeeps with a group of refugees being taken to the camp. They showed us their

mainland food coupons which they wanted to give the foreigners as souvenirs.

It seemed that they did not realize that they would be back in the mainland

that very evening, and were thinking that they no longer needed them.

At the bottom of the hill we got out of the jeep and with us got out a police

man, who had rather nervously told us not to take picturesat the top, and not

to meddle. Now, he being highly nervous, he asked us for our names and

addresses. He did not like his job one bit, and promised that he would not

turn the names in unless asked to by his superiors. I have heard since that on

occasion policemen who were sure they were not being watched very often helped

refugees escape through the lines, and get into the urban area. Certainly it is

no pleasant position to be in for a Chinese enforcing a British Government's

order to throw other Chinese out, and the only determined police I have seen

have been the British themselves.

There was much confusion . People were ready to do something, but no one

was sure what to do. Following different instructions, we started off in half

a dozen different directions to find small, hidden groups of people who needed

food .

The last time we went out was the date I began this letter, and then most

things were pretty much calmed down. The mainland had announced the 25th

of May was a deadline for free escaping, and there were already reports of

Communist guards shooting the people who attempted to cross . The papers

say there is still some crossing, but not much, for 4 years of forced labor have

been threatened for any who are returned now .

Senator HART. In full, I am sure the report would be very useful .

Mr. Dixon. I can make copies available to the committee by mail.

Senator Hart. We would appreciate that, yes.

Senator Fong. Mr. Dixon , I cannot agree with you more than the

two points made in your statement. It is so necessary that we keep

hope in the hearts of the refugees, and the question of resettling around

various places in the world .

That recalls to mind the other day a Mr. Ishuu, an Okinawan liaison

officer who came to my office. Hehad been working in Bolivia .

There is an intergovernmental agreement among the Okinawan

government, Bolivia , and our Government, to relocate some of the

Okinawan people who were displaced from their homes on Okinawa

because of the use of their lands by our military.

Mr. Ishuu came to my office, and he wanted to know as to what he

should do to secure the appropriation that had been made for the

resettlement of these people. He told me and he told Mr. Nishimura

also that there were approximately 6,000 Okinawans in Bolivia.

There are about a thousand Japanese in Bolivia . And that they had

been given around 500,000 hectares of land — which would be about a

million and a half acres of land to work as their resettlement area.

In this area they were putting up their homes. They were planting

rice and soybeans. And now they were looking for some help to build

a factory to extractoil from the soybeans.

It seems that this project is going along very, very well. It is an

indication what intergovernmental agreement can do in this type of

work. And I think that is what you are referring to ; is that right?

Mr. Dixon . Yes. Ithink many of the less powerful governments,

perhaps, might say, “Yes, we could, but we donot have the personnel

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to handle this kind of situation . We have the land, we have things

that need doing. And if we could get assistance in doing this, even

personnel, young people who speak Chinese” —and that sort of thing.

Senat FONG Thank you.

or .

Senator HART. Mr. Dixon, thank you .

Mr. Dixon . Thank you.

Senator Hart. I may have omitted this when Mr. Yee was on the

stand. I know he was accompanied by Mr. Hong and Mr. Louie.

Committee counsel has received a statement from Mr. Hong. May

I inquire, Mr. Hong, if you wanted to supplement this by any state

ment from the stand?

It was not our intention not to hear you. Come on up.

STATEMENT OF NGAI HO HONG , SAN FRANCISCO, CALIF.

Mr. Hong. Mr. Chairman and honorable members of the committee,

this statement, although I have not had it printed, I wish to more or

less supplement the statement of our association, the Chinese-Ameri

can Citizens Alliance.

Briefly speaking

Senator Fong. Mr. Hong, the three of you are from San Francisco ?

Mr. Hong . That is correct.

Senator HART. Is Mr. Louie still here ?

Mr. LOUIE. Yes, I am right here.

Senator HART. Would you care to come up, Mr.Louie—in case you

would like to add anything before the record closes ?

Senator Fong. Chinese -American Citizens Alliance .

Mr. LOUIE. They are the spokesmen . I know the Senator very well.

To say I know everything is impossible, but I can say this : I am the

only one from San Francisco that has served as a past president of

three groups that arefrom the oldgeneration to theyoung.

I am a past president of the Chinese Consolidated Benevolent As

sociation, a past presidentofthe Chinese Chamber of Commerce, and

a past president of the Chinese -American Citizens Alliance. And

besides that, I have been a past vice president of the Council of the

Chinese Communityof San Francisco ,and a lieutenantgovernor of the

Optimists Club, and so many other titles people say I devote all my

time to civic work, and not do any of my ownwork , which is correct.

Because my wife thinks SO, too .

So I will let the lawyers do the talking, and thanks for asking me to

come up here.

Senator HART. Thank you for coming. That maxim of letting your

lawyer do the talking is heard in other committees around here too ..

Senator Fong. Mr. Chairman, I know Mr. Louie very, very well.

He is a very respected citizen in the city of San Francisco, in fact,

in all of California. He is known as a very hard worker, and a very

civic -minded person. As he said , his wife complains he spends too

much time in civic work. I think many of his friends feel he is

devoting more time to civic work than to his private business. For

that we like to commend him.

Senator Hart. Yes. We want right now to commend all three who

traveled this great distance to express before the committee their

ideas and theiraspirations. I am sure we will be much the better for

having them.

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Mr. Hong. Mr. Chairman, if I can indulge the committee, a little

of your time, I would like to have read into the record what I have

stated here.

Firstly, my name is NgaiHo Hong. I am a practicing attorney in

San Francisco. Presently I am serving as the vice grand president

of the Chinese-American Citizens Alliance.

As has been stated earlier, this problem created by the mass migra

tion of Chinese refugees from mainland China to Hong Kong is begin

ning to take on the aspect of an international problem .

The way in which this problem is met and the means by which the

solution is brought into beingwill have worldwide significance. In

fact, the determination as to whether the Communistic ideologies will

be building to a new high or whether it will start their long -overdue de

scent may very well be based at this turningpoint. The problem is

one of the gravest order. It is one which will merit and demand our

most sincere and concentrated effort.

According to statistics made available to me, there are about 2,000

pending cases of first preference, 813 pending cases of second prefer

ence, 569 pending cases of third preference, and 1,500 pending cases

of fourth preference, giving us à rough total of about 5,000 cases.

It is hoped that section 212 ( d ) ( 5 ) of the Immigration and Naturaliza

tion Act would be applied to these cases.

At the present time, it is my understanding that as to the nonpref

erence cases, thetotal numberamounted to about 27,241. These cases

have previously been placed in the files of the American consulate.

The people involved in these nonpreference cases are not recent es

capees from the China mainland, but they are the ones who escaped

toHong Kong and to other countries at the time of the establishment

of thecommunistic regimeon themainland .

These are the people who had early indicated their preference to

live in exile and away from Communist domination . Therefore,

greater consideration should be given for these early refugees.

Out of these 27,000 refugees, about 25,000 are now residing in Hong

Kong . It is our belief thatthese people have had the opportunity of

assimilating some degree of Western culture and could more easily

adapt themselves to our way of living if they were to be admitted to

the United States. It is also most probable that many of them have

relatives in this country who are already established .

By the enactment of suitable legislation, these 27,000 refugees

could be granted a conditional admission to this country at a gradual

rate of, say, 5,000 or 6,000 per year for a period of 5 or 6 years in

duration .

Then at the end of the second year, after date of entry, and after

their ability to assimilate and become a useful member of the com

munity has been proven , permanent resident status may then be

granted to them .

In this way, there would not be a mass migration ofa great number

of people whose ability to live by our standards and to work with us

are still an unknown factor.

It would also be less of a burden upon the relatives who may wish

to do their part in giving assistance to these displaced persons.

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The Chinese -American Citizens Alliance could serve as a clearing

house for sponsorship arrangements :

1. Our organization could assist in the collection of affidavits

of sponsorship ;

2. Could work out a format with the Immigration Service, as

to the most suitable form to use ;

3. The CACA could render the same assistance to these refu

gees that the church groups have done in the past. The churches

rendered assistance on the basis of religious affiliation. Our

group would be participating on the basis of ethnic

considerations.

It is our contentionthat pending the enactment of suitable legisla

tion for the relief of these refugees, ordinary deportation cases which

do not involve the securityof the country should be suspended .

The United States should make a strenuous representation to the

United Nations to have that organization participate in the handling

of the refugee problem .

The refugee problem should be a common problem of the free

world , and the United States should notbe made to assume it alone.

The Ú.N. Committee on Refugees should include the Hong Kong

refugees within itsscope.

Finally, the United States should not ignore or overlook the pos

sibility of utilizing some of the Pacific islands, now under U.N.

trusteeship, as possible places for resettlement of refugees.

Therefore, inconclusion, let me state that, as an organized group of

Chinese- Americans, we stand ready to do our part as American citi

zens to assist our country in meeting the present challenge and in

counteracting that whichcould very well be an indirect communistic

onslaught against the free world .

Theproblem is great, gentlemen, but it is believed that, with the

right spirit, the difficulties involved will not be insurmountable.

Again, I wish to thank the committee for your kind attention in

allowing me to come before you.

Senator HART. Mr. Hong, from everything we have heard , and

from the reputation that preceded the hearings with respect to the

Americans of Chinese descent, I think we are all convincedthat to the

extent new admissions of Chinese occur in the country, the Chinese

American community will respond. There is no doubt about that, I

think, in the minds of anybody.

Senator Fong. You make reference, Mr. Hong, to 5,000 cases in San

Francisco alone ?

Mr. Hong . These 5,000 cases I believe are throughout the country,

Senator Fong. Throughout the country. And they are now pend

ing in the consulate general in Hong Kong ?

Mr. Hong. That is correct.

Senator Fong. These are preference quotas ?

Mr. Hong. Yes.

Senator Fong. So, therefore, the sponsors of these petitions are rela

tives, living in the United States ?

Mr. Hong. That is right.

Senator Fong. And naturally they would be responsible, and they

have filed an affidavit of responsibility ?

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Mr. Hong. I think the only problem now is to get the affidavit of

sponsorship up to date.

Senator FONG. Yes.

What I am trying to find out is, these people are related , so therefore

they have somebody who will stand responsible for them

Mr. Hong. That is correct.

Senator Fong. Of the 27,000 applicants who are applying under

the refugee or under the quota status, someone has made application

for them ; is that correct ?

Mr. Hong. I believe they are similarly situated,Senator.

Senator Fong. In other words, someone in the United States has

alreadystatedthat he would be responsible for his well-being ?

Mr. Hong. I believe these are the cases where the aliens, if admitted,

do have places to go , and have families sponsor them .

Senator Fong. Thank you .

Senator HART. This concludes the witnesses scheduled to be heard

today .

We will adjourn to the call of the Chair.

I have indicated Mr. Waters of the Agency for International De

velopment will be included in our witnesses at the next hearing.

(Whereupon, at 4:45 p.m., the committee recessed, subject to the call

of the Chair.)

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TUESDAY, JULY 10, 1962

U.S. SENATE ,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON REFUGEES AND ESCAPEES

OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY ,

Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to recess, at 11:15 p.m., in room

357, Old SenateeeOffice Building, Senator Philip A. Hart (chairman of

the subcommitt ) presiding:

Present: Senators Hart ( chairman of the subcommittee) and Fong.

Also present: Curtis E. Johnson, staff director; Dale S. De Haan,

research consultant; and Earl Nishimura, minority counsel .

Senator HART. The committee will be in order.

Today we resume our hearings on the Chinese refugee problem in

Hong Kong.

Our witness is Mr. Herbert J. Waters, Assistant Administrator for

Material Resources in the Agency for International Development,

AID. Mr. Waters returned recently from Hong Kong and Taiwan,

and will testify particularly regarding the distribution ofour surplus

agricultural commodities under Public Law 480. Originally, he was

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scheduled to be .a witness about 2 weeks ago. Circumstances prevented

this. But Senator Fong and I are glad that he could appear at this

time andcontribute his expert knowledge to the record .

Mr. Waters is an old hand around here, and we are grateful to have

him back. And without consulting Senator Humphrey , I will say I

wish he were here on a more permanent basis. He brings to us, I

think, knowledge and experience that is most useful.

Mr. Waters.

STATEMENT OF HERBERT J. WATERS, ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR

FOR MATERIAL RESOURCES, AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL

DEVELOPMENT

Mr. WATERS. Thank you, Senator Hart and Senator Fong.

I appreciate the opportunity to meet with your committee to discuss

some of the aspects of the problem in Hong Kong, which has been

aggravated by the recent influx of refugees from Red China.

Let me explain at theoutset my relationship to refugee activities.

Most of the direct U.S. Government responsibility with regard to

refugee matters rest, of course, with the Office of Refugees and Migra

tion in the Department of State. The Agency for International De

velopment cooperates closely with our refugee programs, however,

primarily through providing food supplies underPublic Law 480, thé

food -for- peace program ,and paying shipping costs of other supplies

for accredited U.S.voluntary organizations.

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Included among my responsibilities in AID are operations of fooď

for peace, for which agricultural commodities are provided by the

Department of Agriculture, and coordination and supervision of vol

untary aid efforts.

When the Chinese refugee problem appeared to be growing more

acute later in May, I went to Îaiwan andHongKong for a personal

inspection tour to reappraise assistance that might be required .

In Taiwan, I held discussions with U.S. AID officials, officers of

the American Embassy, officials of the Government of the Republic

of China, and representatives of voluntary relief agencies. I visited

a number of the projects being carried on by the Chinese Govern

ment and by the private voluntary agencies.

In Hong Kong, I had the opportunity to meet with officials of the

American consulate, the Hong Kong Government, and the private

voluntary relief agencies. I was also able to visit a number of proj

ects providing assistance to refugees from the China mainland .

While I did not personally get to Macao, I sent a staff aid accom

panying me to that Portuguese colony to get another firsthand report

on the present situation there .

During my discussions with officials in both Taiwan and Hong

Kong, I was joined by Seymour Janow, AID's Assistant Admin

istrator for the Far East.

I have returned considerably heartened and reassured by what is

already being done - despite the tragic circumstances in which hun

dreds of thousands of fellow human beings are still compelled to live.

I was impressed with the outstanding job done, and the financial

support which the British authorities in Hong Kong have provided

over the past decade, inattempting to cope with the complex problem

of assimilating morethan 1 million refugees approximately one

third of the total population in HongKong.

At the same time, I could not help but be impressed with, and proud

of, what the U.S. Government andthe American people through their

voluntary agencies have been doing and are continuing to do in behalf

of the overall refugee problem , in providing many kinds of assistance

to supplement the effortsof the Hong Kong Government.

Underlying any consideration of what further external assistance

can be given most of these refugees is the basic fact that overall

determinations of this kind rest with the governing authorities in

Hong Kong. While I believe it is understandable and right that

new effortsare being made to explore immigration possibilities as

one means of relieving population pressures in Hong Kong, I am

forced to conclude that themajor efforts of assistance will need to be

concentrated in Hong Kong for some time to come.

Your committee has gathered considerable evidence on this general

subject.

From earlier witnesses you are aware that the U.S. Government, in

keeping with its traditional concern for the plight of refugees, has

dispensed in excess of $ 8 million since 1953 in an effort to improve the

lot of refugees in Hong Kong.

These programs of assistance have been carried forward in co

operationwith accredited U.S. voluntary agencies including projects

in the fields of housing, medical care, vocational training, nutrition,

resettlement abroad and similar projects.

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In addition , substantial supplemental feeding programs have been

underway during the same period. These programs are made possi

ble by donations of U.S. agricultural commodities to the American

voluntary agencies under our food -for -peace program . Since 1953,

approximately $30 million worth of these commodities have been dis

tributed to refugees and other needy persons in Hong Kong. The

level ofdistribution ofthese foods during the current fiscal year is

41,844,000 pounds to 438,000 recipients. These food commodities in

cluded dry milk , flour, corn meal, Bulgur wheat, vegetable oils, beans,

and rice.

Concentration in these food distribution programs is now being

placed on school and child feeding programs- a very needy segment

of the population . This becomes more significant when it is under

stood that according to a March 1961 census 40 percent of the total

population of Hong Kong is under the age of 15 years..

Beyond the help which American voluntary agencies are giving with

U.S. Government support, these same agencies are now sending to

Hong Kong from their own private resources contributions in cash,

relief supplies and self-help items totaling roughly $3million per year.

These groups, with whom we in AID work so closely and on whose

skillful performance we rely to such a great extent, are certainly en

titled to be highly commended. I think, Mr. Chairman, it is appro

priate that the names of these agenciesbe placed in the record at this

point. They are: Aid Refugee Chinese Intellectuals, American

Friends Service Committee, CARE, Catholic Relief Services, Chris

tian Children's Fund, Church World Service, Foster Parents' Plan,

International Rescue Committee, International Social Service,

Lutheran World Relief, Mennonite Central Committee, YMCA .

Senator HART. Iam glad you did enumerate them specifically. We

have acknowledged for the record the significance of their contribu

tion. But to have this point come from you, in the light of the fact

that you saw the agencies' operations on the ground ,I think, adds

appropriate emphasis.

Mr. WATERS.Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

These agencies, representing the people of America, have been

quietly and efficiently carrying on direct aid in one form or another

to theneedy people of Hong Kong, refugee or native born. There can

no longer be any real distinction , for the influx over the years has cre

ated a totalsocial welfare problem in the crown colony.

In partnership with our Government, these voluntary agencies have

been impressively expressing the friendship and concern of the people

of the United States for the vast masses of Chinese who have aban

doned their homeland to escape Communist rule. Supplementing

their own personnel resources, money, clothing, and medicine, they

have effectively and efficiently utilized America's available agricul

tural abundance in a continuing demonstration of people -to -people

friendship that has made and is continuing to make a significant

impact.

Food statistics alone, no matter how impressive in size, cannot begin

to convey the impression one gets from personal observation.

In Hong Kong this morning, thousands of young children are

lining up at scores of distribution centers to receive a large cup of

milk and a couple of freshly baked biscuits. In thousands of small

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shacks and shanties and in the countless multistoried cement housing

blocks, thousands are sitting down to a meal of hot noodle soup or

Bulgar wheat congee. In the overcrowded tenement areas of Hong

Kong and Kowloon, thousands of eager handsarereaching for freshly

baked steamed bread, a favorite Chinese staple made from American

flour.

I have seen the looks of appreciation on faces filled with hope. As

I observed one distribution of food in Kowloon, I was surprised when

elderly women with children strapped to their backs nodded to me in

an expression of gratitude. Without possibly being able to know

who I was or why I was there, they somehow equated the foreign

American face with the source of the foods.

The sharing of our food abundance is providing amarked contrast

as to the success of American agriculture, compared to the growing

awareness among the Chinese of the failure of Communist China's

agricultural production.

Should the need arise for additional food , already existing pro

cedures are adequate to permit speedy processing of requests. Àt a

giventime, there is normally a 50- or 60-day supply of title III, Public

Law 480 food on hand in the warehouses of Hong Kong. This should

be more than sufficient to provide for emergency needs, should this

become necessary . Barring any interferences in normal shipping

there would be sufficient time toship additional foods to replenish that

borrowed from these stocks without any interference with ongoing

programs.

I want to emphasize that the Hong Kong Government is cooperat

ing fully with the food - for-peace programsby providing warehousing

and inland transportationcosts for these foods after they arrive. It

is gratifying, however, to be able to report that today no known need

for food amongst needy Chinese in Hong Kong is going unmet.

I should like to emphasize this point. In Hong Kong, we met in

dividually with representatives of each of the major American volun

tary relief agencies who have been carrying on relief work among

ar the

refugees. We asked them three questions:

( 1) Have you noticed any appreciable increase in your regular

caseload as a result of the recent new influx of refugees into Hong

Kong ?

( 2) Do you have sufficient resources on hand at the present time to

provide relief assistance to the new refugees who have entered Hong

Kong ?

( 3) If a situation should arise in the future in which additional

large numbers of refugees should enter Hong Kong, would your agency

be willing to cooperate in a large coordinated project toprovide as

sistance to them ?

In the case of each agency, the answers were the same. It was re

ported to us that the agencies had not noticed any appreciable differ

ence in their caseloads. This, they said, was due to the fact that the

refugees were remaining under cover, at the homes of relatives and

friends. The agencies reported that they expected the refugees to

emerge little by little over the next few weeks. This was already

beginning to happen over the weekend of June 9 and 10 when the

Hong Kong Government announced that refugees could come forward

to register without fear of prosecution or deportation .

REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO 155

The agencies reported that they had sufficient Public Law 480 title

III food on hand to feed any of these refugees in need. It was

pointed out that an extra 10,000 or 20,000 people, when added to the

more than 400,000 already on relief rolls, would mean only a small per

cent increase .

The voluntary agencies also pledged that they stood ready, if called

upon, to take part in any future large-scale refugee relief program

which might be required - alone, in cooperation with other voluntary

agencies, or in cooperation with the U.S.Government.

It is for these reasons that I am able to say with gratification that no

known need for food amongst the Hong Kong refugee population is

going unmet.

The same situation exists at Macao , as far as food is concerned.

We have also assured Taiwan of adequate food assistance for any

refugeesthey may be able to absorb, including commodities to beused

in food - for -wages work projects in which refugees could be quickly

given jobs.

Mr. Chairman, I want to add just briefly to that statement that no

known food need is going unmet . This is to the extent of the basic

food assistance supplementing what they can obtain on their own, and

it certainly does not mean that the dietis adequate, it is not based on

nutritional standards, but noknown food need is going unmet,

Perhaps the committee will be interested in some of my observa

tions regarding attitudes of the refugees, and why they are fleeing

their home areas.

Between the staff member accompanying me and myself, we inter

viewed, through interpreters, about 100 of these refugees, sometimes

individually, and sometimes in small groups.

They all gave the same reasons for leaving the mainland — insufi

cient food, fear of even worse shortages in the future, and resentment

at having to work long hours on farms when this was not their chosei

pursuit.

This last point - rebellion against compulsory labor — seems signifi

cant . These were all essentially “city people," from around Canton,

who had been ordered to work on farm communes by the Communist

regime, in the continuing attempt to overcome food shortages. Ap

parently, this forced relocation of workers is a major factor behind

many recent disturbances leading to increased attempts to flee from

the country.

I emphasize this because it has a direct bearing on any future re

settlement ideas. These people showed littleinterest in going any.

where other than Hong Kong. They have fled farm work, to get

back into city life with which they are familiar.

From my observations, there will be little voluntary desire to emi

grate further. While by our standards circumstances under which

most of them will now have to live in Hong Kong seem extremely un

fortunate, bytheirs it is fortunate compared with what they left be

hind them . They feel that food is available in Hong Kong and a

better chance to work and earn a living than they left behind . They

are not anxious to trade their new freedom for what they feel might

be an unknown fate somewhere else in the world.

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If the chairman or members of the committee so desire, I shall be

glad to respond to questions or to furnish additional information for

the record

I do have one further comment, Mr. Chairman . Since preparing 1

this statement for your committee, your staff and others may have

been informed that the State Department Office of Refugees has made

available $ 250,000 for use in assisting the technical schools in Hong

Kong with the objective of training many more people for skilled

work, particularly in the housing field . All of us who have been on

the scene and discussed this problem feel that this particular project

will have the dual benefit of upgrading the skills of many of these

refugees to enable them to obtain employment, and also, quite frankly,

meet the need for skilled labor required for the vast housing projects.

Senator HART. I am glad you added that point; because I was going

to ask of you what one thing, in addition, of course, to the food pro

gram that you are administering, would make the most sense forthis L

country to undertake in responseto this Hong Kong situation ?

Mr. WATERS. I feel our overall purpose must be to identify our

selves and our continuing friendship with the Chinese people. This

has been a historical fact . And Hong Kong is aa showcase place where

a

this can be done with effect.. In my observations, any projectthat

touches upon young people is most effective. I' think vocational

training is very significant, or increased medical care for children,

either in clinics or children's hospitals or things

of that kind.

I mentioned the population figures. These refugees have come in

over a period of time, and thereis a whole new generation growing

up , and any attention shown in the care of youngsters is deeply ap

preciated by the parents. Watching the children come to the milk

bars and watching the school feeding programs that are going on has

convinced me that we can best display our friendship and actually

contribute to the health of future generations by taking care of the

children .

Senator HART. Senator Fong.

Senator Fong . Mr. Waters, I have been to Hong Kong, and I have

seen the distribution of these milk supplies. And I have seen the

faces of these people who received them. I have also seen the distri

bution of the various noodles that were made from corn meal plus

wheat flour. And I think the administration is doing a very fine job

over there .

Is ityour testimony thatfrom 1953 to the present approximately

$ 60 million has gone into aid for the refugees from American sources,

Government and private ?

Mr. WATERS. Food and money .

Senator Fong. $30 million in food and $8 million in money , and

about $3 million from the various agencies each year ?

Mr. WATERS. Yes.

Senator Fong. And outside of the problem of food, you stated that

there is need for a medical program for the children ?

Mr. WATERS. Yes .

Senator Fong. And education for the youngsters ?

Mr. WATERS. That is right.

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Senator Fong. What are we doing along that line ?

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Mr. WATERS. So far the voluntary agencies are themselves carrying

on, in connectionwith their food programs, a rather substantial distri

bution of medical supplies that have been contributed from this coun

try, and are trying toidentify and locate health cases that need to be

referred to the Hong Kong authorities. The basic direction of health

activities in the welfare field there is in the hands of the Hong Kong

Government, and it is getting to be a little more than they can cope

with .

Our voluntary agencies as well as other groups have indicated that

they do feel a need for additional help inhaving clinics or medical

supplies. I am meeting tomorrow on other subjects with the Amer

ican Council of Voluntary Agencies in New York, and I intend to

discuss with CARE representatives the role that Medico might play

in this area .

Senator Fong. Do you find the Hong Kong authorities cooperative !

Mr. WATERS. I find they were cooperative. They have a very

serious problem , we recognize, and they feel it is a question of the

allocation of the resources they have available. They are perfectly

willing to accept outside help, and are willing to have it identified as

coming from the donor. They have indicated that if we wanted to

help with a clinic or school they would be perfectly happy to designate

it by any name we chose, or have a plaque or something of that kind.

1 And this is true of any other country in the world thatwants to pro

vide some assistance there. They did feel that the assistance could

be more profitably put into permanent institutions of that type rather

than devoting funds solely to attempts to help with immigration.

Senator Fong. Now, relative to that thought, Hong Kong is pri

marily a textile producing territory, isn't it ?

* Mr. WATERS. That is right.

Senator Fong. And many of the refugees find work in textile mills

due to the fact that there have been a tremendous amount of exports

of textiles. What have you to say relative to our help along that line

in giving them a quota, for example, of the textiles that are produced

over there? There has been quite a lot of discussion as to the limita

tion of the various textilegoods that have been coming in from Hong

Kong and other parts of the world , and we have entered into an

agreement with many of the countries relative to the importation of

textiles.

Mr. WATERS. Senator, as you know , this is a worldwide problem ,

and I think it is a little out of my area of responsibility to speak with

any authority on it . It is under the direction of other areas in the

State Department, and I think the previous witnesses have touched

upon it . Although serious consideration is being given to waysthat

Hong Kong can be helped through encouragement of trade, † think

most consideration is looking in other directions than textiles.

The officials in Hong Kong did make a very strong point of this.

They felt anything the rest of the world coulddo to assist with ab

sorbing some of their production in the trade line would mean more

jobs for these people in Hong Kong. We have pledged them serious

consideration of this. Assistant Secretary Harriman has indicated

he concurs that we have to give special consideration to Hong Kong

from a trade standpoint as part of our effort to meet this problem .

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Senator Fong. You state that most of the people that come to Hong

Kong are city people.

Mr. WATERS. Most are from city areas . A smaller number came

out of rural areas.

Senator Fong. And did most of them come with families or alone ?

Mr. WATERS. The ones I talked with did not have families with

them. These were the ones that did not come in during the period the

border was open , but fled across the border, or through Macao, and

had been 4 or5 days in the process of getting in. They includedmen

and women, and some young people inthe teenage group, but not little

children .

Senator Fong. Would you say that a substantial portion of them

came to seek a living and also be able to lend a helping hand to the

people who were back in Communist China ?

Mr. WATERS. I think that is true. I think obviously the economic

motivation was behind their move, although they either sincerely felt

that they were trying to get away from Communist rule, or thought

this was the right thing to say when they were being questioned . They

brought this into their discussions, and they objected to forced labor.

All of them seemed to have a consistent line of feeling that the food

situation, as bad as it was, was going to get worse , and they would

like to get somewhere else where foodwas more readily available.

Senator Fong. What I was trying to get at, did you feel that this

was a migration of specific individuals in a family going out so that

they could contribute something to support back home, or did you see

whole families migrating ?

Mr. WATERS. No, these were individuals within families rather than

families that I saw .

Senator FONG. I have no further questions.

Senator HART. Mr. Johnson.

Mr. Johnson . Mr. Waters,I have the Hong Kong policy statement

here of Mr. Claude Burgess, theColonial Secretary, and I think you

are familiar with it. One thing he notes is that the shortage of food

or clothing has not been a basic problem in Hong Kong, and he gen

erally seems to be fearful about the creation of a relief mentality

amongthe people. Inconnection with our food distribution program ,

is there any incompatible area here in terms of American relief activ

ities and the objectives of the Hong Kong Government.

Mr. WATERS . I don't think so. I think the Hong Kong Government

is aa little concerned over the fact that as we expand the food programs

we are expecting them to expand their contribution in storage and

the other part they play in this, and it is some drain on their resources.

When he said that there is not a food problem I believe he is thinking

of the current situation . However, without the food now being put in

it, there would be a very serious problem. I think the Hong Kong

Government would not like to see it expanded to a great extent. Their

main concern would be the drain on their own resources in handling

it .

Now , this question of relief mentality — these people are not solely

living on the relief supplies, the food being distributed, though in

many instances that is all they have until they get a start. But most

of them are looking for workand getting somework, earning at least

something in part-time work. It is a gradual process beforethey can

actually take care of themselves or get families reunited.

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In some instances, in regard to the family question you raised earlier,

Senator Fong, there is evidence of individuals coming across one at a

time and then trying to reunite as families. Many of them are search

ing for relatives that came over earlier, looking through these housing

projects that have been developed. I feel the British Government has

made aa real contribution in these housing projects, because they bring

some order out of the chaos and give you an opportunity to atleast

count heads and do some health checks and things of that kind. They

still have terribly crowded conditions, yet these people are paying for

these apartments, and their earnings are largely eaten up in paying

for this rent. Without our supplemental feeding, they would have a

very, very meager diet.

>

Mr. JOHNSON . The policy statement goes on to mention that the

Hong Kong authorities feel that the supplemental food program is

exceedingly valuable for those that are in the transitional period of

early arrival. But the other aspect of it is the frank admission now

that they will accept almost limitless assistance in their construction

program .

One thought comes to mind. In Tunisia, and perhaps other areas,

AID has supported construction programs, I believe on roads prin

cipally, in which wages were paid partially in food and kind. And it

worked out quite successfully. Do you think that there is any reason

able opportunity for application of this principle here in Hong

Kong ?

Mr. WATERS. I do. I have looked for such opportunities, because

as a general policy we are trying to encourage this shift from direct

reliefhandouts to work relief type of assistance in many areas of the

world . We are doing it very successfully in Taiwan on work proj

ects financed with food. They did explore this in Hong Kong. The

opportunities are more limited because of the limited land available.

However, we have approved, since my return, one project jointly with

CARE and the Kadvorie Foundation for a hog- raising project which

will make use of grants of our surplus corn to enable the establish

ment of cooperative hog -producing farms in the area outside of

Kowloon. That will put many of these people to work in the limited

land area available, raising hogs for the Hong Kong market to dis

place hogs now being purchased from the mainland.

To do this,however, and get the approval of the Hong Kong Gov

ernment, we did not want to develop a group of farmers in an enter

prise that was uneconomic, that was dependent solely upon the corn

we gave them and would collapse when the time came that we with

drew this assistance. So we developed a formula where corn is used

as feed capital in the project ; it is sold to the farmers at the start at a

low cost compared with what they would have to pay in the normal

market, but with a gradually increasing price until they get up to the

market price, whichthey will be able to pay as they sell their hogs.

The earnings retained out of this original capitalof donated corn

will be used in technical assistance tohelp other people enter farming,

and improve their hog production. We feel thatthis is aa work proj

ect thatwill permanently improve the lot of some 5,000, as we estimate

that 5,000 farmers will be involved in this one project. Many of the

work projects that use mass labor require available land. We have

had great success in Taiwain in reforestration and dike building and

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conservation work. But land is very limited in Hong Kong. It is a

question there of whether we can develop work projects for construc

tion of housing, still so urgently needed .

I explored that one. The Hong Kong Government did not seem

particularly interested, although we still feel there is a possibility that

laborers on housing projects could be paid partly in food wages.

Mr. Johnson . I notice the construction projects they listinclude

water supplies and roads, both of which involve a lot of common

labor. Conceivably, food for wages might be applicable in these

areas.

Mr. WATERS. Yes.

Mr. JOHNSON. Just one technical question. You already mentioned

the contribution of $ 250,000 for the construction of a technical school.

This, I understand, was made available through the Far Eastern

refugee program ,

Mr. WATERS. Yes.

Mr. JOHNSON . Is this the administrative channel under which such

a contribution would go to Hong Kong inasmuch as it is a British

colony, and we have no aid program there, so our contribution would

go through specifically on a refugee basis ?

Mr. WATERS. Yes, sir.

Mr. Johnson. I have no further questions.

Senator HART. Mr. De Haan.

Mr. DE HAAN. I have a couple of questions.

Mr. Waters, would you say that the recent refugee influx adversely

affected the public health conditions in Hong Kong ? I ask the ques

tion because we read reports of widespread disease and epidemics on

mainland China. Now last year, I believe, the cholera epidemic in

Hong Kong and the rest of Asia originated in Red China. I was won

dering if any of the epidemics and diseases on the mainland about

which we read have come into the crown colony causing new public

problemsthere ?

health

Mr. WATERS I was unable to identify any diseased condition brought

in as such . The crowded conditions, the sudden absorption of more

people with the added taxing of water supplies at a time when the

water was very low, and the troubles of water supply generally in

Hong Kong, was creating some health problems. There was a very

demic goingon

serious dysentery epidemic going on in this area . But this wasblamed

primarily on the fact that the lack ofwater supply compelled shutting

down the mains entirely in the different areas of the colony from

time to time. Any area of the city only had water 4 hours out of the

24 hours.. Lack of pressure in the mains resulted in seepage into the

mains from open sewage, andthis has complicated the health problems.

But it was more of the crowded social conditions that was creating the

health problem , rather than any disease assuch that was brought in.

Perhaps one comment on thecondition of these refugees coming in

might be of interest. This was a report to me from the man I sent

to Macao, describing the differencebetween new arrivals that had

just got in and those that had been there 5 or 6 days:

The refugees of 5 or 6 days before presented a decided contrast to those who

had arrived on the same or the day preceding. They wore clean white shirts

and new short blue pants provided by the Center, while the new arrivals were

clad in very ragged clothing. The newarrivals were of wan and pale complexion

and bad yellowish eyeballs. The underside of the eye fold had lost its color.

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Those who had spent a week or so at the Center were considerably healthier

looking in every way. Father Ruiz said that a few days of receiving proper

meals brings about a noticeable difference.

Mr. DE HAAN . May we have that report in full for the record, Mr.

Waters ?

Mr. WATERS. Yes, sir.

And I haveaа few pictures typical of the feeding at one of the relief

stations outside of Kowloon if the staff would like to have those.

( The report referred to is in the appendix of this record. )

Senator Hart. Thank you verymuch, Mr. Waters.

This concludes the committee's current series of hearing on the

problem of Chinese refugees in Hong Kong. The hearings havebeen

addressed tothe overall extent of America'sresponsibilityin the Hong

Kong situation, the adequacy and propriety of our present program

there, and other possible avenues of approach to the long-term needs of

the crown colony.

Testimony in open and executive session has been received from

appropriate officials in the Department of State. Representatives

from the voluntary agencies working in Hong Kong, and leaders from

the American -Chinese community, have also expressed their views.

This testimony, together with other information which has come to

the subcommittee's attention , has helped to make a rather compre

hensive record of the situation in Hong Kong. And, again, I thank

the witnesses for their valuable contribution. The subcommittee will

now study this record, and shortly file with the Senate a report of its

conclusions and recommendations.

Hong Kong is the West Berlin of Asia. So I trust that America's

actions for Chinese refugees will be sufficient and appropriate, and

commensurate with the political realities of the international arena.

In conclusion, I should like to quote from the concluding paragraphs

of my remarks to the Senate on June 18 :

Our response to the needs of Chinese refugees is being observed by a waiting

world. They want to see if we practice what we preach. But this waiting

world must also be made keenly aware of the reasons for the flight of the Chinese

refugees : An oppressive and intolerable political, economic, and social system .

Too often in the past our genuine humanitarian concern for refugees from com

munism has beclouded this reality, and thus blunted the persuasive ideological

force of our compassion.

But today, I trust that our informational facilities at home and abroad are

giving maximum attention to the agony of mainland China and the failure of

the Communist regime to provide even a tolerable life for its people. This,

coupled with positive efforts by the free nations to give effective asylum to

Chinese refugees, unquestionably will further the cause of freedom in Asia and

throughout the world.

If there are no further questions, thank you very much.

Mr. JOHNSON. I would like to request that the record be kept open

fora period of 2 weeks.

Senator HART. That will be done.

(Whereupon, at 12 o'clock noon, the hearing was concluded. )

APPENDIX

HONG KONG GOVERNMENT POLICY STATEMENT ON IMMIGRATION FROM CHINA AND

OFFERS OF HELP FROM OVERSEAS, JUNE 13, 1962

Mr. Claude Burgess, colonial secretary, today, June 13, outlined to Hong

Kong's legislative council the crown colony's policy on immigration from China

and recent offers of help from overseas. He was replying to a question by

Mr. C. Y. Kwan, Chinese unofficial member of the council, who asked , “ In recent

weeks Hong Kong's immigration problem has given rise to many and varied

offers of help, particularly from overseas. What is Government's policy in this

matter ?"

Mr. Burgess replied :

“ This question touches on matters of major policy and I will reply at some

length. The honorable member referred to the problem of immigration . I think

that I must first make it clear that, so far as Hong Kong is concerned, this

is not a new problem, but a problem which the people of this colony have been

living with for the last 12 years. What is new in the situation ( and this is

attested by many well-qualified observers who have visited the colony or written

about it in the last few weeks ) is that the problem is newly apparent to the

conscience of the outside world. The events of the past 2 months have opened

the eyes of the world to Hong Kong's predicament ( and to a less extent its

achievement ) in a way that the World Refugee Year, for all its high inspiration

and generous response, failed to do.

“The present situation can be analyzed only in relation to the facts and

achievements of the last 12 years. As to facts, these are clearly set out in a

concise booklet called 'A Problem of People ,' first published in 1957 and brought

up to date in 1960. This is still the classic account of the nature of the problem

and the way in which we met it and are still meeting it. A very large number

of copies of this booklet have been sold or issued free and copies are still

readily available in Hong Kong. As to our achievements in this sphere, details

of these have been reported to this council from time to time and I do not wish

to burden members with a repetition of detailed figures on this occasion .

“ As I said in this council nearly 2 months ago, we expect that in 5 years'

time nearly one -third of our present population will live in houses built from

public funds. One-third of the population is about 1 million people. One

million people is approximately the number of our immigrants in the last

12 years. Surely figures of this kind can never have been equaled by any

national unit in the world. To be more specific - 575,000 people now live in

houses that this Government has financed directly or indirectly, the great

majority in multistoried resettlement blocks each capable of housing more than

2,000 people. We have built 200 of these blocks since 1955 and they are now

going up at the rate of one multistoried block every 9 days. Our pace and

record in the educational field is no less dramatic. Government alone has

built or subsidized 180 full-sized schools of all kinds since 1955. Nowadays a new

Government school or Government -subsidized school opens in Hong Kong every

10 days. If privately owned schools are included, we get the astonishing figure

of one new school every 4 days.

" Over the last decade our annual revenue has averaged Hong Kong dollars

595m. (U.S. $ 104,125,000 ).

During those years our capital expenditure on Government and subsidized

housing has been Hong Kong dollars 475m. ( U.S. $83,125,000 ), on water sup

plies, Hong Kong dollars 356m . (U.S.$62,300,000 ) , on education , Hong Kong

dollars 131m . ( U.S.$ 22,925,000 ), on medical-health services, Hong Kong dollars

134m . ( U.S.$ 23,450,000 ) . These figures are I repeat all capital expenditure.

In Hong Kong we reckon that in any given year it costs between one-half and

one- third of capital cost to keep any medical educational or social welfare institu

tion in efficient operation . These costs ( all recurrent costs and all but a very

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small fraction of capital costs ) have been met from our own resources ;; and we

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have been able to do all this, remarkably, without laying any burden of public

debt upon our childern. The pace is also typically our own and there is no ques

tion but that it is being maintained or improved upon . The job is, of course,

not yet finished ; and since we are entirely dependent on external trade for our

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livelihood, it is not possible for Hong Kong itself to say whether it ever will th

be finished ; but I think both pace and achievement hitherto might well be

sufficient to deter anyone who felt inclined to criticize Hong Kong for lack of

efficient and effective humanitariani We have been faced with a certain

situation and I do not think anyone in this chamber would wish to claim credit

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for what has been done. Indeed, I give these details only to illustrate the sort

of thing that happens when a country takes in one immigrant for every two of its

population.

"The fundamental point in our policy hitherto is that government has never fo

distinguished in any way between immigrant population and population which

has its roots here.All have the same rights and the same opportunities. Once Gi

an immigrant has been admitted he will take his turn for our resettlement housing

if he needs it ; and our schools, our clinics, and our hospitals are available to him

on precisely the same terms as apply to people who were here before he came.

“When we decided some 7 years ago ( ī say 'we decided' because it soon became

very clear there was no practical solution in emigration and the problem was

ours alone to decide upon ) , when we decided to integrate every immigrant into

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our community we were, in effect, making a decision that put the word 'refugee'

out of our dictionary. Refugees live in camps ; they do not normally earn their

keep ; by definition they believe that home is somewhere other than where they

are now ; their well-being depends on someone else's charity ; perhaps they do 1

not expect rice or bread to come to them from the conscience of humanity but it

comes nevertheless, and it brings with it the humiliation of the zoo — at any rate 1

the bars are there, the food passes through the bars, and somewhere else is home. A

“ This we would not have . The new people became our people ; and our people

stepped aside to give them equal access to all the jobs and houses and schools

and clinics that the enterprise of our economy could provide. Every time a 1

Hong Kong born man stands in a queue for a clinic, enters his name for a sub

sidized flat or waits for a school place, he tacitly endorses that policy. Since,

in consequence, the real burden was borne by the man whose roots were here, we

have always insisted that he, too, must share in any gifts that a charitable world

bestowed on us. We always made this clear. Money and food and clothing ;

projects like schools and community centers ; technical assistance of various

kinds were offered for refugees. In each technical assistance case and on every

occasion we said that the help was welcome but that the terms were impossible

not only did we not know who the refugees were but it was against our policy to

distinguish between different elements of the population on such a basis. We

had poor and deprived and handicapped people who could be identified but we

could not and would not identify refugees in our community.

" I venture to think that public opinion overseas has found and still finds this

position very difficult to understand. And we for our part have not found it

easy to explain. Sometimes, offers are received of generous quantities of surplus

foodstuffs of a particular kind, used clothing, or money tied to projects which

have more relation perhaps to sentiments in the giving countries than to care

fully planned programs in the receiving country. In such circumstances it is

very difficult to explain , not only that charity of this kind in fact does very little

to assist us in achieving our specific aim, but that it may, in certain circumstances,

actually impede us in our progress toward that aim. Let me hasten to add that I

have never been one to 'look a gift horse in the mouth.' But I have been deeply

touched by the understanding attitude shown by many governments and vol

untary agencies during these past

weeks and by their quiet and tactful inquiries

as to whether they could help. This government has never asked for aid and

does not do so now, but if a generous world wishes to help us we have a duty to

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respond and from expert knowledge of our own problems give a clear lead and

indicate the fields in which we believe benevolence and charity can usefully be

deployed in order to bring lasting benefit to our population and also indicate

the fields in which we believe it would be misspent, illusory or merely of

ephemeral significance. The question gives me opportunity to do precisely this.

" One of the ways in which it has been proposed, though not by us, that our

burdens should be lightened is by emigration. This Government does not

believe that in the circumstances of Hong Kong emigration schemes can make

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population. The potential is so vast that we don't think it realistic to entertain

hopes of a solution along such lines. Moreover , in matters of this kind the

wishes of the people concerned are paramount. There is clear evidence that

the aim of most immigrants is to join their families, clansmen and people of

their own race, language and dialect in Hong Kong, and that they do not in many

cases desire to go further afield . Our experience of emigration schemes shows

that they are invariably, in some way or other, selective. Both these considera

tions imply that in any major emigration scheme there would inevitably be a resi

due for retention in Hong Kong - a residue which both in numbers and in kind

Hong Kong could not absorb. That is not to say that this Government is opposed

to emigration as such, far from it. People who want to leave and have anywhere

to go, are of course free to depart whenever they wish. Ample transport exists,

and many individuals would no doubt have joined relations and friends already

in other countries but for severe restrictions imposed on the entry of Chinese

from Hong Kong. We welcome such relaxation as has recently occurred in the

United States and Canada, and acknowledge the generous motives of these

Governments. This holds out to some individuals the prospect of a new life

elsewhere, in some cases reunited with their families. Emigration of this sort

involves no new principle and can be handled through channels and by procedures

already in existence ; it requires no intervention by this Government. However,

let me emphasize that, though we welcome these developments, we welcome them

because of the benefit they may bring to individuals ( I repeat, individuals ) ,

rather than because we believe they can contribute anything tangible to the basic

problems of Hong Kong. We are skeptical of emigration schemes purporting to

offer the prospect of large -scale relief ; they do not conform with the realities

of the situation, and this Government is not prepared to divert to them financial

or administrative resources, nor does it wish to encourage others to do so. We

urge that these should be devoted to meeting the problem of population in the

only place in which I believe it is realistic to suppose it will or can be met - in

Hong Kong itself.

“ Another way in which people have shown themselves willing to help is by

sending us aid in kind. This is natural. In some parts of the world there is

a surplus of food and it is understandable that those who live there should

wish to help the needy in Hong Kong from their own abundance. But, thank

God, a shortage of food or clothing has not been a basic problem in Hong Kong.

Food programs of certain special kinds and related to certain special circum

stances have been of great assistance to us ; they have helped people in transi

tional periods and in the cases of real hardship that exist ; but present programs,

notably that mounted by the U.S. Government, suffice for those purposes. Gen

erally speaking the burden placed upon us by the immigrant population is

not eased by the concept that relief can in any way mitigate the basic needs

of active men. 'Relief mentality' is insidious and breeds a special form of

economic servitude. The basic need of every man is economic freedom and

viability, and that is precisely what we aim to provide for every member of our

hugecommunity.

" Nothing could wreck both our plans and our achievements more rapidly or

certainly than a further flood of immigrants. I explained the reasons for this in

reply to a question in this council on April 18. We have accepted our heavy

burden and are willing to bear it, but we cannot allow that burden to be intoler

ably increased, and we must be allowed to pursue our policy of containment in

the immigration sphere. If the conscience of the world is stirred by the needs

of people who are affected by that policy , then it would seem that the needs of

those people can only be met elsewhere than in Hong Kong.

“Much of the foregoing is negative. We refuse to identify or segregate any

element of the population as refugee ; our problems are not such as can be solved

by emigration ; we have at present no additional need for relief in kind ; and

our policy of containing illegal immigration must continue. On the other hand,

perhaps for the fir time, the public and governments of friendly countries are

stirred by our problems, and I am glad to take the opportunity of this question

to indicate not only where assistance is not needed but where it is needed .

“ Not from choice but from necessity we are a manufacturing and commercial

community . Our only real asset is the industriousness, efficiency and strong

instinct for survival of our people. Hong Kong's rapid industrialization is the

key solution to its problem of people . Indeed, the prosperity of Hong Kong's

industry provides the reason why the world does not have an additional million

refugees on its conscience at this moment; and its continuing prosperity provides

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the best hope, perhaps the only hope that the needs of our expanding population

can be met in a constructive and efficient way. As this Council is well aware

we have recently had to accept certain serious restrictions on our external

trade. The grim possibility of still further restrictions lies ahead. The first

way in which the outside world can help this colony with its burdens is to assure

reasonable access to oversea markets for the limited range of goods we can

produce efficiently. This Government can see no better way in which effective

help, in a form in which it is most needed , can be given to people about whose

future the outside world has shown so much concern . These people's welfare

depends upon our trade and, if our trade can be maintained with adequate scope

for growth and without artificial restrictions, there is every chance that we can

complete a task we first set ourselves 12 years ago. But the stifling of our exports

would, sooner rather than later, transform this dynamic community into an

international pauper and would thus create conditions in which massive and

wholesale relief would be the only remedy.

“ Secondly we have limitless need of assistance in our construction program .

Hitherto it has been the Hong Kong taxpayer with occasional but marginal

assistance from friendly governmentsor charitable and voluntary agencies who

has borne the cost of all the vast infrastructure that is needed to support new

immigrants and our excess population generally, and I refer particularly to water

supply, roads, housing, hospitals , clinics, community centers and primary and

secondary schools. A very valuable contribution would be to pay for any item

or items on our construction list. If any governments are interested, I invite

them to get into touch with us direct through official channels and this Gov

ernment will gratefully explain the range of items on which financial assistance

would be welcome. An interdepartmental committee is being constituted imme

diately in order to deal with any such offers of assistance received from abroad,

and also give guidance to voluntary agencies already operating here who may

seek advice as to the fields in which they can most usefully contribute either

service, expertise or money.

“A situation of this kind inevitably calls to mind the classic words of Sir

Winston Churchill : 'Give us the tools and we will finish the job.' For us in

Hong Kong today, the necessary tools are the opportunity to trade freely, a rea

sonable access to world markets, and a vigorous capital program. Given these,

we too will finish the job .”

OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL,

Washington , D.C., July 17, 1962.

Hon . PHILIP A. HART,

U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C.

DEAR SENATOR HART : I have your letter of July 10, 1962, advising that the

Subcommittee on Refugees and Escapees is now completing its records on the

hearings on Chinese refugees in Hong Kong. You request current information

on the progress of the present program for the admission of Chinese refugees

in the United States as parolees.

In response to your request, please be advised as follows :

1. On May 23, 1962, President John F. Kennedy declared that several

thousand Chinese refugees in Hong Kong would be paroled into the United

States.

2. To date, 633 have been authorized to come to the United States. Of

that number, 207 have actually been admitted. (As of Sept. 5, 1962, the

figures were as follows: 1,410 persons authorized ; 675 persons admitted .)

3. It is not possible at this time to fix a definite date when completion

of the program should be effected . We believe the rate of admissions will

increase, however, as those approved for parole status — who until recently

had no reason to expect they would ever be reached for admission - are able

to make the necessary arrangements for moving to this country.

4. In my opinion the provisions contained in section 212 ( d ) (5 ) of the

Immigration and Nationality Act contain sufficient authority to effect the

parole of these refugees.

As you know , the President stated at his press conference on May 23, 1962,

that steps would be taken by the U.S. Government to bring into this country

Chinese refugees in Hong Kong whose applications for immigrant visas to come

to the United States to join relatives have been pending. These persons had

little hope of early entry into the United States because of a lack of visa num

bers under the small quota allocated to Chinese. Section 212 ( d ) ( 5 ) of the

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Immigration and Nationality Act contains authority for the initiation of ad

ministrative procedures to carry out the objectives announced by the President.

To date, I am not aware of any problems that have developed to seriously inter

fere with our efforts to do this which would call for legislative remedy. How

ever , I appreciate very much your interest in the program, and the opportunity

you have given me to report to you on the Hong Kong parolee program .

Sincerely, ROBERT F. KENNEDY, Attorney General.

DEPARTMENT OF STATE ,

Washington , D.C. , August 20, 1962 .

Hon. PHILIP A. HART,

U.S. Senate .

DEAR SENATOR HART : I refer to your letter of July 25, 1962, requesting a report

of the refugee situation in the Portugese Province of Macau and a description of

Far East refugee program ( FERP ) activities.

Since the occupation of mainland China in 1949 by the Communists, Macau,

like Hong Kong, has seen an almost continuous influx of refugees escaping from

Communist tyranny. The refugee problem in Macau has, however, taken a differ

ent aspect from that in Hong Kong. This difference is due in part to basic dif

ferences between the two areas and, until recently , to the relatively easy move

ment of people between the two oversea possessions.

The British Colony of Hong Kong is roughly 20 times larger in area and its

population of about 3.3 million is 16 times that of Macau. The annual Govern

ment revenue for Macau in 1960 was U.S.$ 4 million, while that of Hong Kong for

the same year was U.S.$151 million . Hong Kong depends for its wealth on its

industries and commerce, while Macau has little of either and derives most of its

income from import duties and the granting of concession licenses for gold im

portation and gambling. In view of its larger size, Hong Kong has offered far

greater opportunities to refugees than Macau. This, combined with easy move

ment between the two areas, has resulted in a very high proportion of the

refugees entering Macau moving onward in a short time to Hong Kong. Indica

tive of this is the fact that, while the population of Hong Kong has mushroomed

since 1949 and includes over 1 million refugees, that of Macau has remained

fairly static during the same period. Since Hong Kong was the final destination

of almost all refugees fleeing Red China, the FERP relief efforts were centered

there until 1960 .

Late in 1959 attention was focused on Macau because of the condition of

those refugees remaining there instead of proceeding to Hong Kong. These

were blind refugees, who, after fleeing or being forced to leave Communist China,

were found to be living in great squalor and want on the streets of Macau. In

1960 the American Foundation for Overseas Blind ( AFOB ) , with the help of

FERP funds, began the construction of a center for blind refugees where they

could be registered , cared for, and given vocational training and classes in braille.

At about the same time as the AFOB commenced its program in Macau , the

National Catholic Welfare Conference ( NCWC ) started several projects for the

relief of other refugees remaining in Macau. These included a nursery and

clinic for refugee children, a small housing project of 80 cottages and, with funds

made available by the U.S. contribution to World Refugee Year, a community

center where vocational training and other services could be made available to

refugees. In addition to these projects, American surplus agricultural com

modities were distributed in Macau by the NCWC and CARE. During 1960

FERP contracts in the amount of $ 96,000 were signed for relief projects in

Macau. This amounted to nearly 10 percent of the total FERP program for

that year .

In 1961, increasingly strict controls were placed by the British on travel from

Macau, culminating in September with the virtual halting of legal immigration

to Hong Kong from Macau. The great influx of refugees into Hong Kong from

China in May of 1962 was matched by a proportionate increase for Macau. With

the halting of legal migration to Hong Kong, this influx has led to an unprece

dented increase in the number of refugees staying in Macau. Illegal smuggling

of refugees from Macau to Hong Kong, carried on with great energy and no small

profit by small -boat owners in both colonies, has maintained to a considerable

extent the flow of refugees from Macau to Hong Kong and, while causing con

cern to the British authorities, has helped to keep the situation in Macaufrom

becoming more serious than it otherwise might have been .

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During 1961 and through June 30, 1962, FERP signed contracts amounting to

$ 92,000 for refugee relief projects in Macau. These projects were carried on by

the AFOB, CARE, and the NCWC. Except for the AFOB project, which was

an extension of the care and training program for the blind, these projects con

sisted of the construction of facilities for the conversion of surplus U.S. agricul.

tural commodities into finished or semifinished form. These facilities have

enabled the agencies to furnish hot meals to schoolchildren or to provide them

with milk and biscuits at lunchtime and, as in Hong Kong, has made more ac

ceptable to Chinese such items as cornmeal, wheat flour and powdered milk

which are unfamiliar to them and if delivered in dry bulk form are liable to be

sold for animal feed rather than be consumed by its recipients.

During 1961 , most of the projects begun in the previous year were completed.

As the number of refugees jammed into Macau has increased, the Department,

as well as the Portuguese authorities in both Macau and Lisbon, has given

greater attention to expanding relief activities to meet the needs of the new

refugees. Tentative plans, contingent upon the availability of funds, anticipate

that approximately $300,000 of FERP funds will be spent on relief projects in

Macau during fiscal year 1963. These funds will be used to provide housing,

clinics, and vocational training schools in projects similar to those which are now

being carried on in Hong Kong.

Refugee relief efforts undertaken in Macau face the difficulty of working in

an area of economic depression with limited job opportunities . Refugees cared

for in Macau have far less hope of obtaining satisfactory resettlement than their

counterparts in Hong Kong. In addition, there is practically no reserve of funds

available in Macau, either from Government or private sources to carry on and

pay the operational costsof projects started by voluntary agencies with or without

FERP support. There is also very little physical space to expand housing or

industry to accommodate the increased refugee population . Under the circum

stances, refugee relief projects in Macau must be undertaken with care to insure

that, upon completion, sufficient local funds are available to continue them.

Otherwise, without adequate funds, such projects would require a continuous

outside subsidy or collapse for lack of money to keep them going. Very careful

planning and coordination between all interested groups is necessary to insure

that the maximum benefit is obtained from refugee assistance projects undertaken

in Macau .

In connection with your request for information concerning present Portuguese

relief plans for Macau, the Department has been informed that a plan for Macau

was presented at a meeting of the United Nations High Commissioner for Ref

ugees in November 1961, by Mrs. Fernanda Ivens Ferraz Jardim, president of

the Caritas Portuguese. This plan called for the development of a refugee

assistance program in the Ilha Verde area of Macau. The details for this plan

are as follows :

Basic facts : Number

Number of refugees to be accommodated .. 30, 000

Number of dwelling units to be built---- 6, 145

Square

meters

Total area 230, 000

Area for construction .. 70, 600

Area for access roads.- 78 , 800

Green area ( gardens and parks ) . 80, 600

Area for housing- 142, 000

Area for schools, medical posts, etc---- 88,000

Principal buildings in total area :

Pavilion for admission of refugees 7,000

Housing --- 142, 000

Medical assistance posts- 17, 000

Pavilion for incurable patients . 7,000

Educational institutions--- 20, 000

All other, including nursery, church, etc ---- 37, 000

Total--- 230,000

Density of population : 1,730 persons per hectare.

Concentration : Only in housing areas.

Housing density : 432 dwelling units per hectare.

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Density of construction in housing area : 5.7 m / mº.

Covered area : 30.7 percent of total area of urban zone.

Covered area of housing zone : 36 percent of total area of housing zone. Escudos

Estimated cost :

Pavilion for admission of refugees .. 2, 482, 400

Housing 298, 350, 000

Medical assistance posts_ 1 , 545 , 000

Pavilion for incurable patients .. 4, 627,000

Primary schools .-- 3, 289, 000

Secondary schools ---- 2, 992, 400

Nursery 1 , 191 , 000

Religious institutions 5, 526, 200

Industry ( handicrafts ) 9, 901, 700

Total.--- 329, 904, 700

( Approximately $11.5 million ; 28.60 escudos equals U.S. $1. )

It has been pointed out that the project is so planned that it can be built unit

by unit depending on the funds available . It is understood that the UNHCR

is to use his good offices to obtain contributions for the project. Possible U.S.

participation in the project is still under review and further information on

the details and scope of the project is being sought. As noted earlier, the

ability of Macau to support refugee relief projects is limited and reservations

have been expressed on the feasibility of carrying out a program of this size in

this Portuguese Province.

In reply to your second question, the Far East refugee program has expended

$ 2,029,315 for refugee relief projects in Hong Kong and Macau during fiscal years

1961 and 1962 . These funds have been spent in the following manner :

Percent

Local integration ( includes student assistance ) . 46

Medical programs 21

Conversion of food ---- 11

Resettlement assistance abroad. 22

As in 1954 at its inception, the FERP has tried to reach and assist selected

individuals , assistance to whom would have a real impact on the refugee com

munity and to assist projects providing badly needed services to large numbers,

of refugees. In selecting refugees for individual assistance, a large proportion

of FERP aid has gone to students and for medical care of the sick . The first

group has been so selected because of the known veneration which learning is

held by Chinese and because among this group will be found the future leaders

of the community. Equally important, general education and vocational train

ing provide a solid basis for the successful resettlement of the refugee who does

not go further abroad and adds to his value to the community.

A detailed breakdown of the FERP for ogram 1962 is as follows :

Fiscal year 1962, Hong Kong

1. Contribution to Hong Kong Government--- $ 250,000

A. Hong Kong Technical School.. 250,000

2. Voluntary agency construction program---- 180,000

A. Evangelical Free Church of America ( EVFCA ) Hospital--- 85,000

B. NCWC Social Center .. 20,000

C. Seventh -day Adventist Welfare Service Hospital.-- 75 , 000

3. Surplus commodity conversion .- 90,000

4. Assistance to selected individuals and groups--- 494, 000

A. Resettlement abroad ( includes orphans) 237,000

B. Local integration .- 129,000

O. Care and maintenance_ 148, 000

Total.- 1, 034 , 000

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It is now estimated that during this year the influx of refugees into Hong Kong

will reach 125,000 compared with an average of 40,000 for previous years . This

influx, coming as it does when Hong Kong is struggling to find solutions to the

problems caused by earlier arrivals of refugees, has caused the Hong Kong Gov.

ernment for the first time to ask for assistance in its program to construct

housing, schools, and hospitals for the expanding community. In view of these

developments, the Department, pending the availability of funds, has planned

a considerable expansion of the FERP program for fiscal year 1963. While com

plete details of this program have yet to be worked out, it is planned to more tha

double the present program. Approximately 44 percent of the funds will be

used for construction projects in the fields mentioned above in projects under

taken either by the Hong Kong Government or by private voluntary agencies.

As mentioned before, approximately $ 300,000 will be used for projects in Macau .

Greater emphasis will be placed on vocational training and other local in

tegration projects, while somewhat less emphasis will be put on resettlement

abroad due to the limited opportunities for Chinese refugees to find immigration

opportunities outside Hong Kong. These two activities will account for the

remainder of the FERP program with the exception of approximately $ 100,000

to be used for surplus commodity conversion .

In this expanded program the United States will be responding to the increased

gravity of the refugee situation in Hong Kong and Macau , and will be aiding the

community where the largest number of refugees from communism are to be

found today.

If you would like any further information , please let me know .

Sincerely yours,

RICHARD R. BROWN ,

Director, Office of Refugee and Migration Affairs.

U.S. GOVERNMENT,

June 18, 1962.

Memoranum to : Mr. Herbert J.Waters, AA/MR.

From : Martin J. Forman, MR / ARD.

Subject : Macao visit.

On June 9, I visited Macao to hold discussions with Portuguese authorities

and volagency personnel on the use of Public Law 480 , title III foods in pro

viding relief to Chinese refugees. I met separately with Senor L. B. da Costa

Martins, director of public assistance, and with Dr. Antonio Nolasco Da Silva,

director of information and tourism . The former office is responsible for gen

eral public assistance, while the latter office is concerned with refugee matters.

Dr. Nolasco told me that the recent influx of refugees was not a big problem.

This was a purely routine matter for Macao, he said , and they were able to cope

with it. He referred to their " delicate" position vis-a -vis Communist China

and said that the Macao Government would " resist” any effort to have a publi

cized program of refugee assistance there by the U.S. Government. He reported

that the voluntary agencies were carrying out projects as was the Macao

Government, and he expected these to be sufficient to handle any needs which

might arise.

I told him we were aware of their efforts and that we had no intention of

doing anything to embarrass them or provide any additional problems. I told

him that the American people had a very genuine humane concern for these refu

gees and that we were ready to provide food , if it were needed , to feed any

hungry refugees. Further, I said we would be pleased to do this without any

publicity or fuss. I pointed out that the food could be given through volun

tary agencies or through the Portuguese Government, if a request were made

by them. I indicated that it was not our intention to interfere with their

policies or activities in this area , but that we stood ready to help, if called upon .

Dr. Nolasco thanked me and said he appreciated the sincerity of the offer and

would call on the United States for help if it were needed . He repeated , how

ever, that they did not need such help at this time and were able to care for all

of the new refugees.

I also visited the Reverend Luis Ruiz, S.J. , who bears the title of chaplain

of refugees in Macao. Father Ruiz is an apparently able, enthusiastic, and

dedicated priest who is in charge of a refugee reception center. ( This project

is financed by an FERP project through Catholic Relief Services ) . During the

day, a number of activities were in progress there. In one area , the resident

poor were lined up and showing ration cards to receive their regular allocation

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of title III foods. In another area , recent refugees were receiving food and a

small packet of necessities such as towel, toothbrush, toothpaste, etc. Out in

the yard, a group of refugees were busily engaged in weaving stripped bamboo

baskets under a contract given to the center by a local businessman to permit

short-term employment of refugees. Other recent arrivals were being interviewed

or were receiving instructions. The refugees of 5 or 6 days before presented

a decided contrast to those who had arrived on the same or the day preceding.

They wore clean white shirts and new short blue pants provided by the center

while the new arrivals were clad in very ragged clothing. The new arrivals

were of wan and pale complexion and had yellowish eyeballs. The underside

of the eyefold had lost its color. Those who had spent a week or so at the center

were considerably healthier looking in every way. Father Ruiz said that a

few days of receiving proper meals brings about a noticeable difference.

I had the opportunity to talk through an interpreter to about 100 of these

refugees, sometimes individually and sometimes in small groups. They all gave

the same reasons for leaving the mainland - insufficient food , fear of even worse

shortages in the future, and resentment at having to work long hours on farms

when this was not their chosen pursuit. Did they want to go to America ? “ No, "

they answered cautiously. In some cases, a puzzled look led to further question

ing and revealed that they didn't know where America was. Did they want

to go to Taiwan ? The answer was always " No." They all wanted to go to

Hong Kong or to stay with friends in Macau. In Hong Kong, there was food

and a chance to work and earn a living. If things got better, they would like

to return to their homes in China .

There were also several former Indonesian oversea Chinese among the group .

They spoke English ( and interestingly, no Cantonese, which meant they could

not communicate with most of the other refugees ) . They sought me out and

asked if I could help them get to Brazil. They said they had “ listened to Radio

Peiping" and had chosen to go to the mainland from Indonesia several months

before . They had been disillusioned, however, by conditions there, and they

were especially upset by having to work very hard and long in the fields.

They said they would like to return to Indonesia but that since they doubted

if this were possible, they would like to go to Brazil.

The reception center was providing food for the refugees for a 10 -day period.

They were also providing simple shelter. After 10 days, the Nationalist Chinese

consulate was giving each person 20 Macao dollars about ( U.S. $ 3.50 ) which

permitted them to move on to Hong Kong.

The refugees were also being given medical help at the center and at a nearby

hospital run by Catholic sisters.

I asked Father Ruiz what his needs were. He reported that they were re

ceiving sufficient quantities of title III foods without interruption. What was

needed was money to build additional housing for newly arrived refugees

also, although they were receiving a great many donations of samples ofmedi

cines, there was a need for antibiotics and painkillers. The samples all had

to be tediously sorted, after which it was often discovered that there were many

drugs unfamiliar to them. There was also an oversupply of many special drugs

which were of limited use.

One other need was mentioned by Father Ruiz . There has for a long time

been competition between the Communists and non-Communists for the minds

of the young children. He reported that as of the present time, there were 16,000

children in Communist- run schools, 6,000 in Kuomintang - run schools, and

26,000 in Catholic-run schools, which were also anti-Communist. He urged

that one or two additional schools be built to accommodate the children of the

new refugees and to attract some now going to Communist schools .

At the suggestion of Mr. Fraleigh of USAID / Taiwan , I called on Mr. Ch'ai

Tzu - Yin, the Nationalist representative in Macao, to discuss the matter of mi

gration of Chinese refugees from Macao to Taiwan. Mr. Ch'ai confirmed that

he had received instructions from Taipei, authorizing him to send to Taiwan

up to 500 refugees who had left the mainland of China after April 4. He stated,

however, that very few had come to the consulate and very few wanted to go

to Taiwan. I asked him the approximate number, and he replied, “ very few ."

Upon my pressing and asking whether the total would be 10, 20, 100, 200, 500,

or 1,000, he laughed and said the number would be considerably less than 100.

( From the way in which he replied to the question of numbers, it was my im .

pression that he expected no movement of a group of refugees as such but

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that there might be a family here and there willing to go to Taiwan, and the

total number of such persons would be minimal. )

He said there is no administrative problem in getting refugees to Taiwan if

they want to go, but he repeated that very few want to go. He said most refu

gees are Cantonese and have friends or relatives in Hong Kong or Macao.

What possible migrants there were would come from the lesser numbers of

refugees from Kaingsi, Chekiang, Shanghai, andsuchplaces.

He also told me that he had just sent to Ku Chen-Kang in Taipei a com

plete report on the Macao situation ( including the small numbers of potential

migrants to Taiwan ) . He said that as far as he was concerned there is nothing

that needs to be done now. The Portuguese authorities told him they had

everything under control and if they needed help, they would call on him.

PERMANENT MISSION OF THE REPUBLIC OF CHINA

TO THE UNITED NATIONS,

New York, N.Y., May 24 , 1962 .

Mr. D. S. DE HAAN ,

Research Consultant, Subcommittee on Refugees and Escapees, Committee on

the Judiciary, U.S. Senate, Washington , D.C.

DEAR MR. DE HAAN : With reference to your letter of May 18, 1962, regarding

the refugee situation in Hong Kong, I take pleasure in informing you that on

May 21, 1962, the Chinese Government made the following announcement :

1. The Government of the Republic of China is prepared to receive new

Chinese refugees fleeing to Hong Kong from the mainland according to

their wishes, any difficulties notwithstanding ;

2. The Government decided to contribute 1,000 tons of rice to Hong Kong

Government for emergency relief of such refugees ;

3. The Government is anxious to cooperate with other governments and

with international relief organizations in assisting these refugees ;

4. The Government will appropriate funds for relief and resettlement of

the said refugees ;

5. The Government has established a special committee to plan and

direct the execution of these decisions.

I may add that ( 1 ) with regard to point 1, there is no limit, set as to the

number of refugees to be admitted to Taiwan, ( 2 ) the Chinese Government is

grateful to the Hong Kong Government for having received Chinese refugees

during the past decade, and hopes that for humanitarian reasons the Hong

Kong Government would not return the new refugees to the mainland, and

would cooperate with the Chinese Government or its relief agencies in finding

suitable solutions to this urgent problem .

While still awaiting relevant materials and documents from home, I can

inform you that according to information available to my Government, since

early April this year more than 30,000 Chinese refugees were returned to the

mainland against their will by the Hong Kong authorities.

From January 1951 to December 1961, the Chinese Government received

71,213 Chinese refugees and escapees to settle in Taiwan from 19 countries and

territories, including 17,552 from Hong Kong.

Yours sincerely ,

P. Y. Tsao, Technical Counselor.

REFUGEE REPORT BY CLAUDE H. CURTIS, JULY 17, 1962

The word refugee often brings to mind only starving, ill clad, and destitute

people. However , in recent months we have become increasingly aware of the

fact that people from all stratas of society have found themselves rightfully

classified as refugees.

Since the great modern day exodus from Red China into Hong Kong, the word

refugee is on the lips of nearly everyone in the free world. Prior to this dra

matic exodus only a small segment of the free world's people was concerned with

the refugee problem.

There are four different areas in which this problem exists as far as the

Chinese are concerned ; mainland China, Macao, Hong Kong and Taiwan. We

should be interested in all classes of refugees * * * professional and otherwise.

My interest has resulted in a recent trip to this area at my own expense. There

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is much misunderstanding and misinformation concerning the present day

refugee problem and I am trying to correct this in as far as it is humanly pos

sible for one person to do so . The tide in the China theater has turned in favor

of the West. The Chinese Communist leaders are not now thinking in terms of

an offensive program but rather of a defensive one. The people are in a state

of unrest and dissatisfaction due to a lack of employment, lack of food , and the

brutal treatment received at the hands of the leaders. The masses of China are

starving to death and the situation there is explosive.

Refugees from Red China are received and, comparatively speaking, well

provided for in Macao. The Portuguese Government is not asking for outside

help but is quietly providing for these people in a most humane way. Farmers

are even given small plots of land on which to grow their own household

vegetables. Relief is administered by the priests and is in the form of powdered

milk , rice, clothing, and other daily necessities.

On Taiwan the Nationalist Government has recently announced that the

mainland China refugees are welcome there in unlimited numbers and without

prior screening for security. The Nationalist Government, through the Free

China Relief Association, will provide free transportation from Hong Kong to

Taiwan. It will also provide housing, food, clothing, medical attention, a com

plete program of rehabilitation, pocket money and educational opportunities.

This is a most sincere and genuine offer on the part of the Nationalists.

It was my privilege to greet the first refugees who availed themselves of this

wonderful opportunity. They had courageously fled from the iron - fisted rule of

communism and gone to Taiwan to lend a hand in the cause of righteousness by

helping the Nationalists in their efforts to destroy this demoniac system.

This leaves us with the Hong Kong problem . This is a tangled affair if their

ever was one. Hong Kong has diplomatic relations with Peiping. Consequently

diplomatic channels are closed to the Nationalists who now have no official

medium of direct communication with the British.

I tried, and I believe with some degree of success, to approach the Hong Kong

situation with an open mind. Out of fairness to the British let me point out that

they have carried the burden of this refugee problem unsung and practically

unnoticed all these years.

My primary area of refugee interest lies in Taiwan itself. Shortly after

my arrival there I met with the top Free China Relief Association officials,

with Mme. Chiang Kai- shek and the Minister of Foreign Affairs Shen Chang

huan. I was briefed on what the Nationalists were willing and able to do for

all refugees who migrated from mainland China to Taiwan. This is over and

above the relief the Nationalists have endeavored to give the people on the

mainland and in Hong Kong. The Nationalist officials have stated without

any reservations that they will accept unlimited numbers of their fellow coun

trymen from the mainland. They have further stated that they would not

screen them before bringing them to Taiwan and every effort would be made

to rehabilitate the people. The Chinese themselves in Taiwan have launched

a tremendous relief program and Mme. Chiang's close associates among the lead

ing women of China have raised or pledged to raise about 334 million Taiwan

dollars for this purpose.

It was my good fortune to arrive there just a few days before the first

group of refugees out of the great exodus landed at Keelung. I was honored

with an invitation to be a member of the official reception party which was

headed up by top officials of the Free China Relief Association. At the pier

on the morning of their arrival the atmosphere was electrified with anticipa

tion and hope.

When refugees crossing the Red border into Hong Kong first began reporting

famine conditions we were told that these were not real refugees but rather

Nationalist agents who had been planted for propaganda purposes. Later

when they came in greater numbers we were told that they were refugees but

that they had been brainwashed by the Nationalists before the press got to

them . At Keelung I met them as they came off the ship. Sixty-two of them

from five different provinces ranged in age from 11 to 71. They were fresh from

the mainland , not planted agents , not brainwashed dupes as some would like to

have us think but rather courageous, though starving, men and women who

wanted more than anything that priceless commodity cherished by us, freedom .

The dock area was jammed with hundreds of shouting cheering people, healthy,

well fed Nationalists . The tears flowed freely as in two or three instances

parts of families were reunited and in several instances old friendships reestab

lished .

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I spent that day with the refugees. The officials wanted to take me to my

hotel for rest. They thoughtfully wanted me to have a good dinner. My eyes

were rested and my heart refreshed as I realized that the Republic of China

was then and there in my very presence beating the Communists on a third

front. They had already beaten them psychologically and economically and now

morally. Free China opened her arms wide to people who had been slaves only

days before. I did just what I wanted most to do that day. I spent my time

with the refugees. I ate their first Free China dinner with them. I met and

interviewed about 50 of the 62. My heart was so overcome with joy that right

there on the spot I gave away everything I had with me except the clothes that

a decent society required me to wear back to my hotel.

One boy, 11 years of age, whom I adopted as my foster son , completely won my

heart. His physical appearance reminded me so much of my own Philip back

in Hawaii that I gave Chen Chen -cheng that English name. He seemed so

apprehensive in the crowd at the dock and I wept as I thought of my own boy

under similar circumstances if we don't defeat communism . He had heard “hate

America ” all his life and I wondered how long since anyone had shown the boy

any love. We were so drawn to each other and it was so apparent that nearly 40

press photographers took pictures for almost 10 minutes.

Philip could not swim so his two older brothers and nine other people made

a raft of old belts and towed him as they swam for half an hour across the

river. His mother did not escape although his father did. The father waited in

Hong Kong in hopes the mother would make her way there and sent the boys

to Taiwan when he heard that the ship was sailing. Incidentally this was

Philip's birthday and when I learned this fact I was doubly glad that I had

given him my wrist watch as a token of American friendship .

A 17-year-old boy had made his way from west China to Canton . He traveled

most of the way by train but part of the way on foot. When I asked him what

he wanted to do now that he was in free China he stated that he wanted to

complete his education ( the desire expressed by many of the youth ) and then

he began to cry. When I asked him why the tears he said that he had missed

so much schooling he realized that if he went back to school the boys in his

class would make fun of him because he was so much bigger than they. I

assured him that he was now among friends. I asked this boy why he had left

home. He said that recently his auntie had passed away and because of famine

conditions a man had retrieved her body the day after it had been buried , had

taken it to a pig slaughter house, had it cut up and peddled the human flesh

as pork. The thief was arrested and during his trial pled for a long jail sen

tence so he " would at least have something to eat."

From the interviews with some 50 people I learned the following facts.

Starvation is prevalent in Red China. It is common practice in west China to sell

new-born babies for human consumption. The grain that is being imported into

China from foreign countries is being stockpiled in west China in preparation

for the needs of the Communist leaders when they find it necessary to establish

a second line of defense there. This, coupled with the fact that industries are

being moved from the coast and the south China border, indicates the fea of

a possible invasion launched by the Nationalists. Whenever the authorities hold

trials of military personnelon charges of being counterrevolutionary many truck

loads of Army officers are brought to the long -drawn -out trialsas a warning to

beware. These trials are frequently held in an area where the residents are

restless. High ranking Communist military officers are dissatisfied and wish

to rebel.

It is the unrest and rebellion that led to some subordinate commanders in

south China relaxing the border restrictions. When the thing got out of hand

and unfavorable international reaction set in, Mao made a trip south and the

border was closed. Refugees are still illegally drifting into Macao at the rate

of about 50 a day and into Hong Kong at the rate of about 200 a day. A con

servative estimate is that 85 percent of the mainland people would openly

welcome a return of President Chiang as their leader.

The question has been raised . How were these 62 refugees selected. They

were not selected, they themselves elected to join the Nationalist cause. I met

with First Lieutenant Liu at the Chinese Air Force headquarters. He is the

young man who flew the MIG from Red China to Taiwan because he wanted to

defect to free China . These refugees manifested their choice in the same manner

only on a less dramatic scale .

I saw these people provided with fresh clean clothes, bedding, and funds, at

a clean comfortable reception center. I saw them stretch out on the fresh green

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grass and relax in the beautiful garden of that center. They were being proc

essed when I left Taiwan a few days ago and will be helped by case workers

to find gainful employment or to continue their education or given an opportunity

to serve China as a member of her armed forces .

Following this delightful experience I went to Hong Kong. Here the at

mosphere is entirely different. Here the propogandists have done their dirty

work.

I feel that the British have done a splendid job in handling the refugee

problem in past years. I feel that they are justified in asking why the free

world is only now becoming interested in this problem . I feel that they sin

cerely believe they have reached the saturation point economically. My guess

is that their fear of Peiping if they openly aid and abet the Nationalist cause

in their desire to receive the refugees is what accounts for the horrible pictures

of brutality on the border which I have in my possession. These inhuman

brutal pictures clearly show their activities as they forcibly drove the refugees

back over the border. Perhaps I am wrong. hope so and I also hope that

before God the British can live with a clear conscience and justify their ac

tions. However, the real brutality and inhumanity may be charged up to

the immigration restrictions which our own United States has imposed upon the

Chinese.

In Hong Kong it was said , and no serious effort has been made to deny *

these allegations, that the Nationalists would only take 35,000 refugees *

that they would insist on screening them in Hong Kong and would dump se

curity risks on the crown colony and that there was a June 30 deadline on

accepting the 35,000. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I endeavored

in the short time I was in Hong Kong to make the true facts as widely known

as possible . What isn't generally known in Hong Kong or any other part of

the free world for that matter is that the Nationalists now have nine ships at

the southern tip of Taiwan ready to sail to Hong Kong on a moment's notice to

receive on board any and all refugees who want free passage to Taiwan. Nor

is it known that when the Nationalist relief officials wanted to visit Hong Kong

to view the problem close up, the British would not issue them visas. What

isn't known to the public is that the Chinese have made what appears to be a

very practical suggestion for a partial solution to the problem and theauthor

ities in Hong Kong, up to the date of my departure, had not extended to the

Nationalists the common courtesy of an acknowledgment of their communi

cations. This is hard, in fact impossible for anyone to justify. No matter

what line of reasoning they may take to justify the brutalities they cannot suc

cessfully justify this before the free world . The British are not in a very good

position to complain about the Berlin wall which the Communists erected

as long as they maintain the barbed wire fence which they erected in Hong

Kong.

I have dedicated myself to the task of helping these refugees who make their

way to Taiwan . My efforts will be only a drop in the bucket, but if we get

enough drops we will eventually have a full bucket. The refugees are like human

tennis balls being batted back and forth across the border. In a tennis game it

is only the ball that gets hit, and in this bit of international intrigue it is the

refugees who suffer . The free world unintentionally or otherwise has put to

death thousands of Chinese who were willing to come to our side and escape to

freedom . This is partly due to the fact that we were not prepared for such an

event. What is heartbreaking is the fact that 3 months have gone by, and we

are still not prepared if there should be a repeat performance. The British

would be left with no alternative but to repeat their acts of brutality.

I shall endeavor to help free China help the refugees by ( 1 ) making the truth

known. I began doing this before I left Asia by making the trip to Hong Kong

* * * visiting Chinese, relief agency heads, and American missionaries and also

by broadcasting to the mainland three times from Taipei. In Russia the people

are living behind the Iron Curtain . In Cuba behind the sugar curtain , on main

land China behind the bamboo curtain , and in the United States behind the

newspaper curtain. I am endeavoring to penetrate this curtain by writing,

speaking on the radio, making TV appearances and speaking to visible audiences.

( 2 ) By collecting and sending relief supplies and funds to Taiwan . ( 3 ) By

using every lawful means to put pressure on our Government to assist the Na

tionalists in their desire to help the poor enslaved mainland people. This can

be done in a number of ways : ( a ) Remove all the " ifs" from President Ken

nedy's statement about the offshore islands. ( b ) Remove the restraints from

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President Chiang Kai-shek * * * make a material investment in his efforts to

regain the mainland now while the Reds are thinking and acting defensively.

( c) Remove the ceiling on Chinese immigration quotas. ( d ) Falling short of

these measures prevail with the Hong Kong authorities to allow the establish

ment of an international organization that would provide a reception center

near the Red border in the free territories to which these refugees could flee.

* * * and from there be guaranteed safe conduct passage from the center to the

Nationalist ships in the Hong Kong harbor. At the same time guaranteeing the

British Government that the operation would be of no expense to them and

that no refugees would be rejected by the Nationalists and left on their door

step. I am confident that nearly every relief agency and every American mis

sionary in Hong Kong and Taiwan would wholeheartedly support such a move.

The importation of half a million refugees to Taiwan would certainly increase

the possibilities of a quick invasion victory on the mainland.

When leaving Quemoy I told the soldiers of the Kinmen Defense Command

that if they would continue to fight for those islands there I would continue to

fight for them here. This is in a sense a recruiting campaign for just that pur

pose. I would like to see this migration result in half a million young menI

being added to the excellent fighting force of free China. * * * Why ? Because

want war ? No. Because I don't want war.

LETTER TO CURTIS JOHNSON FROM RHOADS MURPHEY , EDITOR, THE JOURNAL

OF ASIAN STUDIES

JUNE 6 , 1962.

Mr. CURTIS JOHNSON ,

Subcommittee on Refugees and Escapees,

Senate Office Building, Washington , D.C.

DEAR MR. JOHNSON : In connection with hearings being held on the refugee

situation in Hong Kong, I would like to offer the following remarks :

The recent explosion of destitute refugees into Hong Kong is by no means

an isolated instance. Their plight is merely a sample of the very widespread

suffering of the people of China as a whole as the result of a series of difficulties

which have been experienced over the past 2 or 3 years andwhich are likely to

continue to leavetotal food supplies seriously inadequate. Without wishing to

speculate on the Chinese Government's reasons for permitting this recent outflow

of refugees into Hong Kong, it is clear that this flow can be and is being con .

trolled by the mainland government and that its appearance and/or disappear.

ance do not necessarily indicate either a worsening or improvement in the total

food situation in China proper. The problem should indeed be regarded as

chronic, at least in terms of the next few years, and it is difficult for any con

cerned person to ignore its existence or to ignor whatever opportunities present

themselves for outside assistance. The arrival of refugees in Hong Kong is

one such opportunity, and I would hope that the U.S. Government will use every

means take advantage of it. Only part of the reason for such action is

humanitarian concern . Certainly the example of the United States providing

assistance for refugees from any totalitarian system carries with it political

and moral implications which are obvious. It is also conceivable that a signifi

cant gesture of this sort from the U.S. Government might provide a useful pre

liminary experience for a further larger scale effort to help to relieve human

suffering in China proper , hopefully under conditions which would be welcome

to the United States as providing a means of influence development in China in

a desirable direction.

China's total isolation from the United States has certainly been one of the

most regrettableaspects of the last 12 years. It is obviously a serious loss and

source of misunderstanding on the part of the Chinese people, and we have also

suffered from it. The present accute situation of the refugees may provide a

means for beginning to break down that isolation in a way entirely in keeping

with U.S. objectives.

Yours sincerely ,

RHOADS MURPHEY.

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THE CHINESE COMMUNIST REFUGEE PROBLEM : AN ANALYSIS

( By Peter S. H. Tang, executive director, Research Institute on the Sino -Soviet

bloc, Boston and Washington, D.C. , professor of government, Boston College )

Natural calamities and erroneous policy decisions, particularly throughout the

period 1958–62, constitute the essential background for analyzing the nature

and consequences of the recent mass exodus of refugees from the Chinese Com

munist mainland. Flood and drought, shortages of seeds and fertilizers, and

the inadequate and ineffectual irrigation network have resulted in insufficient

agricultural production. But, superimposed upon these unfavorable natural

conditions, and of equal if not paramount effect, has been the manmade calamity

traceable to decisions of the Communist Party in China ( CPC ) dating from

1958. The great leap forward, launched in 1958, called for the intensification

of industrialization at the expense of agriculture. In the party's efforts to

speedily catch up with or surpass Great Britain in production of certain essential

commodities, faulty policies occasioned economic dislocation. Perhaps the most

notable instance was that of the so-called backyard furnace campaign, which

the CPC itself was later to acknowledge as impractical and wasteful. Com

munalization, as originally conceived, proved disastrous. As unrest persisted

and mounted, and agricultural production quotas were unmet, the CPC again

indicated a reversal of original policies by making greater concessions to the

individual, through the abandonment of such radical measures as the forced

separation of families, and the transfer of the commune's greater authority to

its brigades and team units.

The calamitous effect on the mainland's agricultural production has had a

chain reaction. As agricultural production failed to meet needs, industrial

enterprises lacked essential raw materials. Thus, the regime was forced to

order the personnel of idle factories back to the countryside. Although this re

shuffling was conducted in the name of strengthening the agricultural front,

in reality, it probably caused more problems than it solved . Resettlement

involves retraining, places an enormous burden on the transportation network,

and threatens increased demands on the already strained supply and distribution

system. To the members of the individual commune, this relocation appeared

as a further drain on already inadequate rations. In the spring of 1962, as

grain supplies from the previous harvest were fast being exhausted and the new

crop had just been sown, peasant unrest reached a new peak .

It would be erroneous, however, to judge the recent refugee influx chiefly as

the product of mounting mass unrest. Rather, the sudden and dramatic in

crease in the number of refugees reaching Hong Kong and Macao must be

regarded as emanating from a policy decision on the part of the Chinese Com

munist regime. Certain fundamental CPC policies are involved. The Peking

regime has consistently and conscientiously endeavored to promote a favorable

image abroad and, linked to this, it has prohibited leakage of lower level

information concerning the actual conditions of daily life on the mainland .

More importantly, the regime has based it programs for the develop ent of

Communist China upon their cherished principle of the complete mobilization

and full exploitation of manpower. The complete utilization of all vital hu

man resources may be regarded as the motivating force behind the communes,

the “ every man a soldier ” movement, and, in fact, every basic policy decision.

Consequently, the challenge to the regime's authority and prestige reflected

in the mass exodus must stem fundamentally from the leadership's decision

to permit temporarily the departure of significant numbers of Chinese from

their domain. This supposition is apparently verified by the very suddenness

of the commencement and conclusion of the mass influx, which itself indicates

planned action and orderly movement on the part of the government. It is

also additional evidence that, although famine is serious, the regime continues

to exercise firm political control-isolated reports of mob action against local

government granaries notwithstanding.

What were the factors probably most responsible for the regime's decision ?

The Chinese Communists may have permitted this temporary mass flight in order

to test the world reaction to the Chinese famine. Despite any sharp increase in

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agricultural production 1962, food shortages must remain critical for a con

siderable period of time to come. With great shortages of capital, Peiping can

not hope to purchase sufficient food supplies on the free market and previous

purchases have had a negligible effect in terms of immediate needs. The Chinese

Communist government cannot ask for food without risking serious conse

quences to both the image it has created concerning its own progress and harmful

effects to the prestige of the entire international Communist movement. Strong

evidence indicates that the Soviet Union is unable to provide sufficient relief.

Hence, the regime is confronted with the apparently paradoxical task of, on the

one hand, denouncing all overtures from the West concerning the supply of food,

while, on the other hand, seeking such massive aid .

Faced with the pressing task of handling this sudden influx of Chinese refugees

in Hong Kong, it is understandable but nonetheless regrettable that there was a

lack of general coordination between the British authorities, the United States

and the Republic of China on Taiwan. Although it appeared expedient to offer

these refugees a meal and then return them to Communist China, it should be

acknowledged that this practice acted to destroy the unprecedented golden op

portunity of learning more of the actual situation in China and engaging the

enemy at his weakest point. Of primary concern is the fact that these policies of

expediency indicate a conceptual vacuum with respect to understanding correctly

the Chinese Communist opponents. To them , the front for contest is every

where. If, indeed , the regime permitted this exodus to sound out international

reactions, it must have assured itself that the free world is not psychologically

prepared or politically coordinated in meeting the Communist challenge on a

relatively obscure front. In turn, this knowledge may act as a powerful stimulus

to the regime in pushing ahead its programs even at the expense of its millions

of suffering citizens, whose fate is now predetermined.

The responsibility of the United States in developing some general policy for

handling this and possible future mass flights from Communist China derives

from its general responsibility as the leader of the free world. It requires an

acknowledgement that the struggle against Communist menace demands co

ordinated policies among all free countries to deal with issues arising along the

unseen as well as the visible fields of encounter. The outstanding strategist of

ancient China, Sun Tze, observed that the psychological offensive is of far more

importance than any direct attack on cities. Hence, the United States should

sponsor the initiative in urging the free world to capitalize on the refugee prob

lem, rather than allowing it to become the subject of interallied burden and

issue.

The President's special refugee program is encouraging, but insignificant in

terms of the whole problem . If the free world is to exploit the current situation,

it must seek the initiative in challenging the Chinese Communists via a co

ordinated policy and organization . One essential and immediate step should

be to provide aid to the some 10,000 recent refugees in Hong Kong who report

edly have so far evaded the roundup conducted by the local authorities. This

step would do much to recover our loss in the psychological offensive and serve

as an example that the free world intends to aid any individual who risks oppo

sition to or flight from communism . It must be emphasized that refugee prob

lems affecting a Communist country should be viewed carefully and tirelessly,

not in conventional terms, but in terms of the omnipresent and militant struggle

which must be waged against Communist threat.

The question of American supplies of food to the Chinese mainland must be

viewed in this context of vigilant struggle along every front. If a food relief

program is to be organized , it should follow the general pattern of the Hoover

Relief Commission in Soviet Russia in the early 1920's, and should be coordi

nated with similar allied efforts if possible. Food can be used as a weapon in a

far - reaching psychological offensive. In addition to possible benefits of in

fluencing the Chinese people, a relief program may do much to contradict

the Communist -inspired propaganda depicting the United States as a blood

thirsty archimperialist nation. The so -called uncommitted nations may be

deterred from accepting the Communist line by well popularized evidence of

massive people- to -people relief.

An American reliefprogram could follow a variety of forms. There are advan

tages in encouraging the Chinese to flee the mainland in order to receive proper

care — this would foster the triple goal of showing sympathy for the plight of

the people, shaking the Communsts' psychological front and promoting internal

unrest in confrontation with the possible drain of China's greatest long -range

asset — its people. At the same time, it would be well to send limited aid to the

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mainland, if necessary through the offices of an ally, in order to promote our

psychological attack . In any case, food is far cheaper than ammunition in an

all-out engagement with the Communist challenge ; its distribution can elicit a

contagious reaction ; and its potential uses as a weapon should be considered

with the utmost care .

NEW YORK , N.Y. , June 8, 1962 .

Senator PHILLIP A. HART,

Senate Office Building, Washington , D.C.:

The Woman's Division of Christian Service of the Methodist Church, the

administrative body for organized Methodist women , expresses its appreciation

for your subcommittee's attention to the urgent need for thorough revision of

present immigration laws of the UnitedStates in order to provide flexibility

for dealing with problems of refugees. The current situation of refugees from

mainland China points up this very urgent need . From the time of the adoption

of the present immigration law, the woman's division has consistently urged

that the national origins quota system be replaced by categories which carry

no implication of racial or nationality bias. Desirable categories include those

whose admission would reunite families, those whose special skills would make

important contributions to U.S. economy or cultural activities and a realistic

proportion of those who were made refugees by political changes, war, or

natural disaster. We respectfully request the inclusion of this statement in

the report of the hearings of your subcommittee and that the convictions here

stated be considered when policies for change in the law are recommended .

Mrs. J. FOUNT TILLMAN ,

President, Woman's Division of Christian Service, Board of Missions, the

Methodist Church.

STATEMENT BY HERMAN WILL, JR. , ASSOCIATE GENERAL SECRETARY, THE DIVISION

OF PEACE AND WORLD ORDER OF THE GENERAL BOARD OF CHRISTIAN SOCIAL

CONCERNS OF THE METHODIST CHURCH

Distinguished gentlemen of the committee, moved by recent events in Hong

Kong, and by the expressed position of the Methodist Church, we submit this

statement to you on behalf of the Division of Peace and World Order of the

Methodist Board of Christian Social Concerns. We wish particularly to sup

port S. 3043, sponsored by Senator Hart and cosponsored by his several col

leagues, which would ease the restrictions on Chinese immigrants from Hong

Kong and permit the United States to assist that British colony in its remark

able efforts to receive and care for refugees from mainland China . We com

mend the initiation of such legislation, and urge its support and passage, along

with any additional emergency measures which may be included for dealing with

situations such as the deluge of refugees in May. Such measures, had they been

available to our Government at that time, would have enabled our Nation to

make a clearer witness to our humanitarian concern for the oppressed and

hungry of the world.

The general mandate for this testmony is a policy statement of the 1960 Gen

eral Conference of the Methodist Church. That official body of Methodism

addressed itself to the problems of immigration and urged Methodists “ to seek

through proper channels of Congress the thorough revision of the McCarran

Walter Act.” . Special attention was directed by the general conference to certain

principles, among which two are of particular concern to our present subject.

One of them urges that “ The ratios of admission to this country should ( also )

be reexamined and revised in near harmony with our current population trends,

our current economy, and without any bias related to race or national origin ,"

This section suggests that criteria for admission also be based on “ special needs

to relieve refugee and population pressures ." The other principle here relevant

is one pointing out that “ More generous provision should be made for the admis

sion of refugees displaced because of war or persecution."

In a later section the conference went on to say that :

“ In these times of political upheaval when the migrations of peoples often

have ther roots in religious or political persecution , we reaffirm the principle of

article 14 of the universal declaration of human rights : 'Everyone has the right

to seek and enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution. We further urge

Christians to work in their respective countries for the acceptance and imple.

mentation of this principle .”

180 REFUGEE PROBLEM IN HONG KONG AND MACAO

Our specific desire to testify at this time grows, of course , more directly from

the situation itself. We are aware that the political realities of the predicament

render impossible any sweeping effort to come to the assistance of the huge

numbers of Chinese refugees who might wish to come to this country. Never

theless, we believe that our prosperity, our bulging surpluses, and indeed , our

religious ideals should lead us to open our doors wider. S. 3043, and President

Kennedy's utilization of emergency measures to permit several thousand refugees

to come to the United States, are helpful steps in this direction.

We are particularly concerned that the sense of urgency imparted by the

recent mass exodus from China into Hong Kong not be lost with the reclosing

of the border. The problem which that exodus represented is not likely to be

solved by the closing of a border from either side, nor by token offers of assist

ance and asylum . Our country will need to look ahead to similar situations in

the future, possibly the near future, and be prepared to offer its resources and

refuge .

Finally, we join the others who have called to the attention of this committee

the interrelated nature of the flights from China and the food shortages there.

As churchmen , we urge our Government to consider seriously the possibility of

making available our food surpluses by sale or gift at the same time that it

relaxes its immigration restrictions.

We offer this testimony not as experts or authorities, but because we believe

the principles it embodies are sound and right. We wish to encourage the com

mittee in its endeavor to find answers to the problems of refugees and escapees

which will be commensurate with our national tradition and our religious con

cern for the welfare of all peoples.

LUTHERAN IMMIGRATION SERVICE,

New York, N.Y., July 24, 1962.

Hon. PHILIP A. HART,

U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C.

DEAR SENATOR HART : You will recall that on June 28, when I appeared before

the Subcommittee on Refugees and Escapees, I was asked by Mr. De Haan

whether or not it was my impression that universal primary education had been

achieved in Hong Kong. I replied that we had received requests for additional

projects relating to primary schools and therefore in view of these requests I

would be hesitant to comment on his question without having some additional

information.

I have now been informed that the Hong Kong government did make a state

ment indicating that when all primary school projects listed in their current

school estimates are completed, the number of places available for primary

school students will equal the number of children of primary school age. In

other words, the Hong Kong government did indicate that universal primary

education in the colony is now possible.

However, when this statement was made by the Hong Kong government it

was based on the assumption that all available places in primary schools would

be in use. This, I understand , has not been possible as many of the facilities

must be rebuilt. Also, when this statement was issued, no allowance was made

for older children assigned to primary schools and for those listed as “ illegal

immigrants .” Also, the primary school problem has been complicated by the

Hong Kong government resettlement programs and the development of new

townships.

In other words, the Hong Kong government's statement, according to my

information, should not be interpreted to mean that additional primary school

facilities are not needed . In fact, we have been told by the director of educa

tion in Hong Kong, that " it is likely that outside help from reliable bodies for

the building of new primary schools will be needed for some time to come.”

I apologize for not having this information at the hearings. At that time,

I was not aware of the Hong Kong government's statement and therefore I

was taken by surprise as our requests for assistance in this area of concern

were received earlier this year.

Again , let me thank you for this opportunity to clarify my remarks.

Sincerely yours,

DONALD E. ANDERSON .

UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA

3 1951 D02 120 601 U


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