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SECRETARY OF STATE'S VISIT TO CHINA: INVITATION TO CHOU EN-LAI
1. Lord Bridges' letter of 25 September to Mr Grattan records
the Prime Minister's wish that he should visit China next year
if an invitation is forthcoming. If one is, the Secretary of
State will convey the Prime Minister's acceptance during his
visit to Peking.
2. We need to consider whether he should at the same time
extend an invitation to Premier Chou En-lai. It is impossible
to say when the latter would be in a position to take up such
an invitation; he already has a large number of outstanding
invitations to visit other countries and he is probably much
pre-occupied at home. He did however tell Mr Winston
Churchill MP during the latter's visit to China in April that
he would welcome a chance to visit the United Kingdom. This
was almost certainly merely politeness but Mr Churchill made
a point of passing on the remark to the Secretary of State on
his return. The Secretary of State told Mr Churchill he saw
Moreover
no reason why we should not invite Mr Chou En-lai.
it might be considered discourteous for the Prime Minister to
accept an invitation without reciprocating.
3. There is likely to be some parliamentary interest in the
question of an invitation to Mr Chou En-lai. If such an
invitation were extended during the Secretary of State's visit
it would be useful to be able to announce it at the end of the
visit.
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We do not however wish to appear too much in the rôle
of demandeur,
If the Chinese against our expectations do
not extend an invitation to the Prime Minister it would seen
to us inappropriate at the present moment to invite Mr Chou.
5.
(but only if)
the
I recommend that if the Chinese extend an invitation to
the Prime Minister we should invite Mr Chou En-lai to visit
the United Kingdom.
their approval.
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Thank you for your letter of 25 September about the
Prime Minister's wish to visit China next year.
If
The Chinese might consider it discourteous for the
Prime Minister to accept an invitation if this
acceptance were not accompanied by an invitation to
Chou En-lai to pay a return visit to the United
Kingdom. The Foreign and Commonwealth Secretary
thinks it would therefore be desirable to reciprocate
any Chinese invitation to the Prime Minister.
this were acceptable to the Prime Minister, and if an
invitation to Mr Heath were forthcoming, Sir Alec
Douglas-Home would tell the Chinese that we would
welcome a visit by Chou En-lai. He would leave the
Chinese to propose dates; we do not in fact think
it likely that Chou En-lai will be free to visit
this country for some time. He is 74 and has not
travelled abroad (except for Hanoi) since 1965.
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Thank you for your letter of 21 September about the Foreign and Commonwealth Secretary's forthcoming visit to China,
The Prime Minister agrees that, if the Chinese Government were to extend an invitation for him to visit Peking during Sir Alec Douglas- Home's conversations, it would bo right to accept this further invitation in principle. Mr. Heath also considers to it would be desirable for the Chinese Goverment to be im'ormed that he hopes to visit : ina in the course of 1973.
For the purse of planning the Frime Minister's diary next year, we have left open the possibility at the visit to Chim could take place in the autumn but the Prime Minister does not think it desirable to discuss possible dates with the Chinese at this stage.
P. H. Grattan, Esq.,
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Oral Answers
11 APRIL 1973
this method of consulting the British people on this issue.
The Prime Minister: No. Sir.
Mr. Hamilton: Does the Prime Mini- ster realise that the answer will not be, regarded by many of us on this side of Does not the House as discouraging? he agree with a former Leader of the Labour Party that the referendum is the instrument of dictators, demagogues and reactionaries? Nevertheless, will he give an undertaking that, before this critical decision is taken on British entry into the E.E.C.. he will implement his election promise to take us into Europe not only with the full consent of Par- liament but with the full consent of the
British people as a whole and therefore hold a general election on the matter? The right hon. Gentleman made a dis- tinction between the full consent of Par- liament and the full consent of the British people as a whole.
The Prime Minister: I have never made that distinction and the hon. Gen. tleman cannot point to any speech in which I made it. I have, in fact, stated the reverse. I have always said that our constitutional process is carried out through Parliament and by that means alone. That is the view to which I have always adhered.
I thank the hon. Gentleman for the first half of his remarks. I thought that he would be sympathetic to my answer because, on 27th March, he said in the House to my right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Dutchy of Lancaster:
"Is the right hon. and learned Gentleman aware that the last labour Party conference came out docisively against a referendum and that it is the commonly accepted view on this side of the House that we should obey party conference decision""-Official Report, 27th March. 1972; Vol 834, c. 22.1
Mr. Blaker: Should not the advocates of a referendum on the Common Market, if they are to be logical and consistent, be proposing, first, that we should have a referendum on the question whether wề should make such a substantial change in our constitutional practice?
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Mr. Mendelson: Will the P Minister at least address himself to tite traditional process of consulting people in a general election, osad mind that the conditions negotiated for entry could not have been known to ; electorate in June, 1970, ard that on examination of election addresses of Con- servative candidates will show that none of them put these conditions before the British people? Is it not therefore ne right hon. Gentleman's duty to call a general election before he finally takes this country into Europe?
The Prime Minister: That is not a constitutional doctrine either. We male it clear in our election manifeste that we wanted to join if the terms were right and that we would negotiate. Having negotiated terms, we put them to Parlia ment and the House gave a majority of 112 in favour.
Mr. St. John-Stevas: Does not my right hon. Friend agree that, however little there is to be said for a referendum in Britain, it has had the beneficial effea that it has shown that there are right hon. and hon. Members prepared to put prin- ciple before expediency and to put the national interest first.
Mr. Thorpe : So that there may be no misunderstanding abroad, will the Prime Minister confirm that at the last election each party made its position on Europe clear and that at no stage did any of them say that. when the terms were known, there would have to be a general election before we finally decided to join?
The Prime Minister: As is well known. that is the case with all three parties
Mr. Marks: Will the Prime Minister publish a list of Conservative candidates who urged a referendum in their election addresses at the last General Election?
The Prime Minister: That, certainly on this side of the House, is a matter for each individual Member.
CHINA
Q6. Mr. Carter asked the Prime Minister if he will invite the Head of State of the People's Republic of China to pay an official visit to Great Britas 1
The Prime Minister: I do not believe that even that would be a suitable sub-09. Mr. Dalyell asked the Prime ject for a referendum.
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The Prime Minister: 1 have at present no plans to do so.
Mr. Carter: Would not the Prime Minister agree that, as China represents potentially the biggest single market in the world. Britain and China should be tween them conduct a far higher level of trade than they do? To this end, will he try to instituté trade missions between the two countries?
The Prime Minister: Yes, Sir. But the bon. Gentleman's Question referred to a visit by the Head of State. I under- stand that, technically, at the moment there is no Head of State in China, so that in the circumstances there cannot be a question of a State visit between Heads of State. But I agree with the hon. Gentleman on the last part of his supple- mentary question. It is our desire to see as rapid an expansion of trade as pos- sible. Three Chinese trade missions are in this country and four British trade missions are either visiting China or are about to go there. I hope that that will greatly encourage trade between our two countries.
Mr. Dalyell: At a time when American B52 bombers are pouring bombs on North Vietnam and there is fighting in South Vietnam, how would the Prime Minister define to Mr. Chou En-lai or anyone else Britain's role as co-Chair- man of the Geneva Conference?
The Prime Minister: That has nothing whatever to do with this Question.
SECRETARY OF STATE FOR TRADE AND INDUSTRY (SPEECH)
Prime
07. Mr. Sheldon asked the Minister if the public speech of the Secre- tary of State for Trade and Industry on 11th March in Blackpool on industrial matters represents Government policy.
The Prime Minister: As I have already said in reply to a Question from the hon. Member for Heywood and Royton (Mr. Joel Barnett) on 28th March. Yes. Sir "[Vol. 834, c. 228-9.]
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industry that, even if they are not profit- able, they will still receive the new invest- ment grants?
The Prime Minister: The confusion seems to be in the hon. Gentleman's mind as much as anywhere, as I believe he himself realises. But I told him that I would send him the statement about the connection with profitability of the total inducements now available in the regions. This is being prepared and I will send it to him so that he can see exactly what is the position.
SOUTH OCKENDON MENTAL HOSPITAL
Mrs. Castle: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. On Question No. 3 I asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he would institute an inquiry into the death of a patient at South Ockendon Mental Hospi tal, partly on the ground that the killer had not been found. I pointed out that the only accused, David Burles, had been tary of State said that it was his under- found not guilty. In his reply the Secre- standing that David Burles had only been found unfit to plead. Thus, the Secretary of State implied that David Burles might have been the killer.
In fact, as the right hon. Gentleman should have known-he is refusing an in- quiry on a false assumption-David Burles' defence counsel, the eminent counsel who is now our own Solicitor. General, took the case to appeal, and a verdict of "not guilty was returned. I am sure that the Secretary of State would welcome this early opportunity of correcting any imputation which he has left on the character of David Burles and confirming that he was, in fact, found not unfit to plead but, in the end, not guilty.
The Secretary of State for Social Ser vices (Sir Keith Joseph): I was only try- ing to point out that the right hon. Lady's assertion that other people believed that the killer responsible for the 1969 death is
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*La Mr Ray Carter (Birmingham, Northfield): To ask the
Prime Minister, if he will invite the Head of State of the People's Republic of China to pay an official visit to Great Britain.
I will, with permission, answer this Question and No together.
I have at present no plans to issue invitations of the
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Mr Royle's oral reply to Mr Mitchell
Statement by Foreign and Commonwealth Secretary
Prime Minister's oral reply to Mr Dalyell
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13 March 1972
15 February 1972
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Mr Dalyell's article in the "New Statesman"
17 March 1972
NOTES FOR SUPPLEMENTARIES
VISITS TO THE UNITED KINGDOM BY CHINESE MINISTERS
1.
Last year we invited the Chinese Government to send
a Trade Delegation headed by the Minister of Foreign Trade
(or one of his Vice-Ministers) to this country. This invitation still stands.
VISITS TO CHINA BY BRITISH MINISTERS
2.
As my
I have at present no plans to visit China. right honourable Friend, the Foreign and Commonwealth Secretary, told the House on the 13th of March, he would
be glad to go to China when his programme allows.
BRITISH EXPORTS TO CHINA
3.
I am confident that the volume and value of our
We shall do all exports to China will steadily increase.
we can to encourage British businessmen to seek business
in this potentially very important market.
TRADE MISSIONS
4.
Four British Trade Missions are now visiting China
or plan to go there in the near future.
Three Chinese
Trade Missions are at present in this country.
/BOAC AND CHINA
BOAC AND CHINA
5. We support BOAC in their desire to operate to China.
The matter is subject to bilateral agreement. We have made a
preliminary approach to the Chinese authorities on behalf of
BOAC.
RE-OPENING OF THE BRITISH CONSULATE-GENERAL IN SHANGHAI?
6. No decision has yet been taken on this matter.
The Consulate-General was requisitioned by the Chinese
authorities in September 1967. At the time we reserved our
rights to the property involved and to compensation for any
loss or damage incurred. No compensation has been paid.
TEACHING OF CHINESE IN UK ?
7. British Universities which offer Chinese include London,
Oxford, Cambridge and Leeds. A number of schools have begun
Chinese courses in recent years.
LANGUAGE STUDENT EXCHANGES WITH CHINA?
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As we have made clear to the Chinese we are anxious to
promote such exchanges. Six Chinese students are at present
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Chinese have not yet indicated that they are ready to
receive British students again.
# STATUS OF TAIWAN
9.
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13 March
in reply to the at- hon-Gentleman The Member
Leeds, East. There is nothing I can add to that.
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VISITS TO THE UNITED KINGDOM BY CHINESE MINISTERS
1. Last year we invited the Chinese Government to send a
Trade Delegation headed by the Minister of Foreign Trade
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(or one of his Vice-Ministers) to this country. This
invitation still stands
VISITS TO CHINA BY BRITISH MINISTERS
2. I have at present no plans to visit China.
As my
right honourable Friend, the Foreign and Commonwealth
Secretary, told the House on the 13th of March, he would
be glad to go to China when his programme allows.
BRITISH EXP ORTS TO CHIM
3. I am confident that the volume and value of our
exports to China will steadily increase. We shall do all
we can to encourage British businessmen to seek business
in this potentially very important market.
TRADE MISSIONS
4. Four British Trade Missions are now visiting China or
plan to go there in the near future. Three Chinese Trade
Missions are at present in this country.
BOAC AND CHINA
5. We support BOAC in their desire to operate to China.
The matter is subject to bilateral agreement.
We have made
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a preliminary approach to the Chinese authorities on behalf
of BOAC.
RE-OPENING OF THE BRITISH CONSULATE-GENERAL IN SHANGHAI?
6. No decision has yet been taken on this matter. The
Consulate-General was requisitioned by the Chinese authori-
ties in September 1967. At the time we reserved our rights
to the property involved and to compensation for any loss or
damage incurred. No compensation has been paid.
TEACHING OF CHINESE IN UK?
7. British Universities which offer Chinese include London,
Oxford, Cambridge and Leeds. A number of schools have begun
Chinese courses in recent years.
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LANGUAGE STUDENT EXCHANGES WITH CHINA? -
8. As we have made clear to the Chinese we are anxious to
promote such exchanges. Six Chinese students are at present
here learning English on a British Council course. The
Chinese have not yet indicated that they are ready to receive
British students again.
STATUS OF TAIWAN
9. Our position was explained with precision by my right
honourable Friend the Foreign and Commonwealth Secretary on
the 13th of March in reply to the right honourable Gentleman
the Member for Leeds, East.
There is nothing I can add to that.
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BACKGROUND NOTE
PARLIAMENTARY QUESTIONS BY MR CARTER AND MR DALYELL
1.
China has had no Head of State since 1968, when the then
Chairman of the Chinese People's Republic (Liu Shao-chi) was
stripped of his functions.
The Chinese have recently began
to describe Tung Pi-wu as Acting Chairman of the Chinese People's
Republic. He has fulfilled the protocol functions of a Head of
State during the past year or two and received our Ambassador
(Mr Addis) when he presented his credentials on 29 March. He is
now 85 and does not travel abroad.
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2.
Mao Tse-tung is the Chairman of the Chinese Communist Party
and has no position in the hierarchy of the State or Government.
Chou En-lai, the Prime Minister, has visited only North Korea and
North Vietnam since 1967. He has yet to go to a number of
countries which have invited him to visit them.
Even if he
accepted an invitation from the Prime Minister to visit this country,
it is unlikely that he would be able or willing to take up the
invitation for some time.
3.
The Prime Minister has decided not to visit the Far East
this year.
The question of a visit to China by the Foreigh and
Commonwealth Secretary is under consideration. The Secretary of
State for Trade and Industry may visit Peking to attend the opening
of the British Industrial Technology Exhibition which is to be held
there in March 1973, but no formal approach has yet been made to
the Chinese.
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4.
The form of words used by the Foreign and Commonwealth
Secretary on the 13th of March explaining our position on the
status of Taiwan was agreed word for word with the Chinese
and should not be altered.
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Linking up with Peking
TAM DALYELL writes: Now where? The ex- change of ambassadors with Peking is a green light for fulier relations. One clear and urgent step is to arrange for BOAC to have regular, if infrequent, flights to Peking and Shanghai. For two reasons: the first concerns the nature of our potential exports to China. Growth will take place by pro- viding units of sophisticated equipment, such as micro-wave systems, and complex assembly processes, perhaps motor vehicles. The presence of key people is therefore re- quired in China both during negotiations, and during any subsequent running-in period. The snag from the point of view of individual British firms is that they cannot afford to allow high-level employees to be tied up, hanging around in China, for weeks on end while the Chinese take their own good time in making decisions. But I sec little prospect of a speed-up in Chinese in- dustrial decision-making. There are very genuine problems of translating and com- prehending volumes of data; besides, a great many people in factory revolutionary committees have to be consulted, probably rightly, before a 'yes' or 'no' can be given.
Secondly, officials of the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade and Mashimpax make no bones about it that they would prefer direct entry, avoid- ing Hong Kong. It is not simply that the colony's "China traders' tend to be asso- ciated with the unhappy past in Sino-Brit- ish relations. As Wang Ye, who negotiated the Hawker Siddeley Trident deal, put it to me in Peking: 'In modern technology we must deal with the makers,"
Since there is no immediate prospect of tourism on a large scale, and groups of 'foreign friends' will be necessarily limited, BOAC realise that they will not have an economic traffic to begin with. Will the British government then agree to under- write losses on the route? If Sino-British relations are to mean anything the answer ought to be an immediate 'Yes'.
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4.
The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry will be answering a Question which has been put down by Mr Dalyell on the
prospects for Anglo-Chinese trade on 10 April. It would not therefore be appropriate for the Prime Minister to answer any supplementary questions on this subject. Mr Dalyell is keen on BCAC now
negotiating rights to fly to peints in China. He published a short article on the subject in the "New Statesman" on 17 March. A Note on this subject has been included in case Mr Dalyell aske a supplementary question about it. Mr Dalyell is also keen on promoting Chinese language training in this country and student exchanges between China and the United Kingdom. These subjects
are also covered in the Notes.
The from of words used by the
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PARLIAMENTARY QUESTIONS BY MR CARTER AND MR DALYELL :
VISITS TO
THE UNITED KINGDOM BY THE CHINESE HEAD OF STATE AND THE CHINESE PRIME MINISTER
1.
I submit draft Answers to the Questions which have been
put down by Mr Carter and Mr Dalyell, together with:
2.
(a) draft Notes for Supplementaries; and
(b)
a Background Note.
No 10 have asked that the Notes for Supplementaries should cover the short article by Mr Dalyell on "Linking up with Peking" which appeared in the "New Statesman" on 17 March. Mr Dalyell's main point was that the time was now ripe for BOAC to have "regular,
if infrequent, flights to Peking and Shanghai".
3.
The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry will be
answering a Question which has been put down by Mr Dalyell on the
prospects for our trade with China on 10 April. The Notes for
Supplementaries do not therefore go into this subject in detail.
The Department of Trade and Industry concur.
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BACKGROUND NOTE
FARLIAMENTARY QUESTIONS BY MR CARTER AND MR DALTELL
1.
China has had no Head of State since 1968, when the then Chairman of the Chinese Teople's Republic (Liu Shao-chi) was stripped of his functions. The Chinese have recently began to describe Tung Pi-wu as Acting Chairman of the Chinese People's Republic. He has fulfilled the protocol functions of a Reed of State during the past year or two and received our inbassador (Mr Addis) when he presented his credentials on 29 March. He is now 85 and does not travel abroad,
2. Mao Tse-tung is the Chairman of the Chinese Communist Party and has no position in the hierarchy of the State or Government. Chou En-lai, the Prime Minister, has visited only North Korea and North Vietnam since 1967. He has yet to go to a number of countries which have invited him to visit them. Even if he
sacepted an invitation from the Prime Minister to visit this country, it is unlikely that he would be able or willing to take up the invitation for some time.
3.
The Frins Minister has decided not to visit the Far East this year.
The question of a visit to China by the Foreigh and Commonwealth Secretary is under consideration. The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry may visit Peking to attend the opening of the British Industrial Technology Exhibition which is to be held there in March 1973, but no formal approach has yet been made to the Chinese,
The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry will be
anavering a Question which has been put down by Mr Dalyell on the prospects for Anglo-Chinese trade on 10 April. It would not therefore be appropriate for the Prime Minister to answer any supplementary questions on this subject.
Fr Dalyell is keen on BQAC now
negotiating rights to fly to points in China. He published abort article on the subject in the "New Stateman" on 17 March. ▲ Note on this subject has been included in case Mr Dalyell asks a supplementary question about it. Mr Dalyell is also keen on promoting Chinese language training in this country and student exchanges between China and the United Kingdom. These subjects are also covered in the Fotes.
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20 JANUARY 1972
hon. Member for Islington East (Mr. John D. Grant) and to the statement which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment made on 13th December. My right hon. Friend the Leader of the House has tabled a Motion proposing that a Select Commit- tee be appointed to consider the practice and procedure in relation to Questions and Question Time.[Vol. 823, c. 190; Vol. 828, c. 65-73.]
PRIME MINISTER OF CHINA
QII. Mr. Dalyell asked the Prime Minister if he will invite the Chinese Prime Minister to make an official visit to Great Britain.
The Prime Minister: There are at present no plans for Mr. Chou En-lai to visit this country.
DUKE OF GRAFTON'S PRISAGE FUND
Q13. Mr. Carter asked the Prime Minister whether he will make a state- ment on his recent activities in connec- tion with the economic affairs of the Duke of Grafton's Prisage Fund.
The Prime Minister: I am advised that, although as First Lord of the Treas- ury I am a Trustee of the Prisage Fund. the Fund is a private settlement. I can therefore make no statement on its affairs.
EUROPEAN ECONOMIC
COMMUNITY
(Treaty of Accession)
Q14. Mr. Elystan Morgan asked the Prime Minister if he will give an under- taking that no agreement as to Great Britain's entry into the European Econo- mic Community will be signed before an official and authoritative English version of the Treaty of Rome is published.
The Prime Minister: No. The Treaty of Accession is to be signed on 22nd January. The offical and authentic Eng- bish language version of the European Economic Community Treaty will be annexed to the Treaty of Accession, which will be published shortly after signature.
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Mr. Arthur Lewis asked the Prime Minister whether he will give details of who will attend and sign for Great Britain the accession instrument for Great Britain's entry into the European Econo- mic Community; and whether he will give an assurance that Her Majesty's Govern- ment will not sign until such time as Norway has stated her official decision to join the European Economic Com- munity and the negotiations on her terms of entry have been concluded.
The Prime Minister: The British signa- tories to the Treaty of Accession will be my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, my right hoa, and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and myself. Norway reached agreement with the Community on 15th January.
SCOTTISH COUNCIL, DEVELOPMENT AND
INDUSTRY
Q15. Mr. Gregor Mackenzie asked the Prime Minister if he will make a state- ment on his recent meeting with the Scot- tish Council, Development and Industry.
The Prime Minister: Together with my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Scotland, for Employment and for Trade and Industry I met a delega- tion from the Scottish Council on 13th January,
The delegation referred to the stimulus to economic development in Scotland which the discovery of North Sea oil and British entry into the European Com- munity should provide, and make a num- ber of proposals designed to strengthen this potential for growth both in the short and in the long term. My right hoa, Friends and I described the measures already taken by the Government to stimulate economic and industrial expan- sion in Scotland. We undertook to co- sider carefully the specific proposals put forward by the Council, and I look for- ward to a further discussion with thern in due course.
INDIA AND PAKISTAN
Mr. Barnes asked the Prime Minister what plans he has for further meetings with the Heads of Government of India and Pakistan.
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DOES THE PRIME MINISTER INTEND TO VISIT CHINA?
1. I have no plans to do so at present.
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DOES THE FOREIGN AND COMMONWEALTH SECRETARY PLAN TO VISIT CHINA?
2. My right honourable Friend would be glad to visit China at
some convenient time if that were the wish of the Chinese.
HAS A CHINESE MINISTER BEEN INVITED TO THE UNITED KINGDOM?
3. We have invited the Chinese Government to send a Trade Delegation,
headed by a Minister or Vice-Minister, to this country.
WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR RELATIONS WITH CHINA?
4. Our relations with China have shown a marked and welcomed
improvement.
We are anxious to make further progress.
EXCHANGE OF AMBASSADORS WITH CHINA?
5. The discussions about an exchange of Ambassadors which have
taken place between Her Majesty's Government and the People's Republic
of China were resumed early last year and are continuing.
WHEN DO WE EXPECT DISCUSSIONS TO BE CONCLUDED?
6. We are anxious to make progress but agreement is still to be
reached on certain points.
WHAT ARE THOSE POINTS?
7. Details of these discussions are confidential.
QUESTION OF SOVEREIGNTY OVER TAIWAN
8.
These are among matters at present under discussion with the
Chinese Government. [If pressed/ It would not be helpful to go into
these matters now while discussions with the Chinese Government are
still in progress.
WILL NOT OUR TRADE WITH CHINA BE AFFECTED IF WE DO NOT REVIEW OUR POLICY ON CHINA AND TAIWAN?
9. I repeat that I do not think that it would be helpful to go into
these matters now.
PRESIDENT NIXON'S VISIT
10.
As was made clear at the time of the announcement, we welcome the
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AS CHINA DISCUSSED DURING THE TALKS WITH PRESIDENT NIXON AT BERMUDA ?
11. I would refer the honourable Member to the answer given to the
honourable Member for West Lothian on the 18th of January.
CHINA AND THE UNITED NATIONS
12.
We have for many years supported the seating of the representatives
of Peking in the United Nations. We welcome the decision taken by
the General Assembly.
WHY DID WE VOTE FOR THE ALBANIAN RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE SEATING OF PEKING IN THE UNITED NATIONS AND FOR THE EXPULSION OF TAIWAN?
13. We were not dealing with the "expulsion" of a member State but
with two candidates who both wished to occupy the one China seat.
We believe that the exclusion of the representatives of the 14 million
inhabitants of Taiwan is a lesser evil than the continued exclusion of
the representatives of 750 million Chinese.
PROSPECTS FOR TRADE WITH CHINA
14.
During 1971
We see no reason why trade should not increase.
there were a number of important trade missions in both directions.
I am confident that these will contribute to the growth of trade
exchanges with China over a wide area of industry.
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BACKGROUND NOTE
Mr Dalyell visited China from 12-26 November 1971
as a member of the Scottish Export Committee Mission led
by Lord Clydeamuir.
This is the third question he has
asked about China since his return.
2. Kr Dalyell has a Question to the Prime Minister for
oral answer on 18 January enquiring to what extent common
policy towards China was discussed during the talks with
President Nixon at Bernuda. It is possible that he may
use that occasion to ask a supplementary about the possibility
of current British policy on China and Taiwan affecting our
exports to China. If he does not ask his supplementary
then he may try to do so this time. The point is covered
by supplementary Ko 9.
3. The possibility of an invitation to Mr Chou En-lai to
visit this country might appropriately be considered when we
have made further progress in our negotiations for an exchange
of Ambassadors with Peking. We hope that the next round
in the negotiations will take place very shortly on the basis
of the proposals contained in the DOPC paper recently approved
by the Prime Minister.
4.
An invitation to the Chinese Government in February
1971 to send a Trade Delegation, headed by a Minister or Vice-
Minister, to visit this country is still outstanding.
Despite reminders the Chinese Government have not yet
responded to the proposal. It seems unlikely that they will
do so until there has been some progress over the Ambassadorial
exchange.
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As regards visits to China, no Western European Frine Hinister in office has visited the Chinese People's
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Prime Minister has not received an invitation to visit
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VISIT THE UK
INVITATION TO MR CHOU EN-LAI TO
MR TAL DALYELL KP 20 NOVEMBER
In Mr Korgan's submissi on of 14 January he said that we
would study Mr Dalyell's 3upplementaries to his question on
18 January.
The question was not reached and a written answer
was given. I attach the extract from Hansard. Kr Dalyell may
therefore see the opportunity of his question on 20 January
to ask a Supplementary about our attitude to Taiwan.
2.
Mr Dalyell told us in early December that he wished to ask
a Suplementary to his P to the Prime Minister for oral reply
on 14 December on the following lines:
"Is it not the case that Britain will be unable to do any
serious business (trade) with the Chinese trading
corporations until we come off our "tired horse" attitude
on the legal status of Taiwan and should not the current
British policy on China and Taiwan be reviewed?"
His question was not reached on that occasion either.
3. Any public statement now on our position over the status of
Taiwan could present us with difficulties. It has been agreed
that we should make a further effort to reach agreement with the
Chinese in our negotiations for an exchange of Ambassadors on the
basis of a compromise formula on the question of the status of
Taiwan. It is important not to go beyond the form of words used
in Suplementaries nos 8 and 9 enclosed with Mr Morgan's submissi or
of 14 January.
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TO VISIT THE UK
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I submit a draft Advice to the Prime Minister, together
with Notes for Supplementaries, in reply to Mr Dalyell's Question
for oral answer on 20 January. A Background Note is also sub-
mitted. We shall study Mr Dalyell's supplementaries to his
Question to the Prime Minister on a similar subject for answer
on 18 January to see whether any further material is required.
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18 January 1972
NOTES FOR SUPPLEMENTARIES
DOES THE PRIME MINISTER INTEND TO VISIT CHINA?
1.
I have no plans to do so at present.
DOES THE FOREIGN AND COMMONWEALTH SECRETARY PLAN TO VISIT CHINA?
i 2. My Rt Hon Friend would be glad to visit China at some-
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HAS A CHINESE MINISTER BEEN INVITED TO THE UK?
3.
We have invited the Chinese Government to send a Trade
Delegation, headed by a Minister or Vice-Minister, to this
country.
WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR RELATIONS WITH CHINA?
4.
Our relations with China have shown a marked and
welcomed improvement. We are anxious to make further progress.
EXCHANGE OF AMBASSADORS WITH CHINA?
5. The discussions about an exchange of Ambassadors which
have taken place between HMG and the People's Republic of
China were resumed early last year and are continuing.
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WHEN DO WE EXPECT DISCUSSIONS TO BE CONCLUDED?
6.
We are anxious to make progress but agreement is still
to be reached on certain points.
THAT ARE THOSE POINTS?
7.
Details of these discussions are confidential.
QUESTION OF SOVEREIGNTY OVER TAIWAN
8.
These are among matters at present under discussion with the Chinese Government. If pressed] It would not be helpful to go into these matters now while discussions with
the Chinese Government are still in progress.
WILL NOT OUR TRADE WITH CHINA BE AFFECTED IF WE DO NOT REVIEJ OUR POLICY ON CHINA AND TAIWANT
9.
I repeat that I do not think that it would be helpful
to go into these matters now.
PRESIDENT NIXON'S VISIT
10.
As was made clear at the time of the announcement,
welcome the visit.
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attached when answered)
WAS CHINA DISCUSSED DURING THE TALKS WITH PRESIDENT NIION AT BERMUDA?
11. I would refer the hon Member to the answer given to
to the hon Hember for West Lothian on 18 January.
CHINA AND THE UN
12. We have for many years supported the seating of the
We welcome the representatives of Peking in the UN.
decision taken by the General Assembly.
WHY DID WE VOTE FOR THE ALBANIAN RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE SEATING OF FEKING IN THE UN AND FOR THE EXPULSION OF TAIWAN? 13. We were not dealing with the "expulsion" of a member State but with two candidates who both wished to occupy the
one China seat. We believe that the exclusion of the
representatives of the 14 million inhabitants of Taiwan is a lesser evil than the continued exclusion of the representatives
of 750 million Chinese.
PROSPECTS FOR TRADE WITH CHINA
14. We see no reason why trade should not increase.
During 1971 there were a number of important trade missions
in both directions. I am confident that these will contribute
to the growth of trade exchanges with China over a wide area
of industry.
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CONFIDENTIAL
BACKGROUND NOTE
Kr Dalyell visited China from 12-26 November 1971
as a member of the Scottish Export Committee Nission led
by Lord Clydesmuir.
This is the third question he has
asked about China since his return.
2.
Kr Dalyell has a Question to the Prime Minister for
oral answer on 18 January enquiring to what extent common
policy towards China was discussed during the talks with
President Nixon at Bermuda. It is possible that he may
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use that occasion to ask a supplementary about the possibility
of current British policy on China and Taiwan affecting our
exports to China. If he does not ask his supplementary
then he may try to do so this time.
by supplementary No 9.
The point is covered
3. The possibility of an invitation to Mr Chou En-lai to
visit this country might appropriately be considered when we
have made further progress in our negotiations for an exchange
of Ambassadors with Peking. We hope that the next round
in the negotiations will take place very shortly on the basis
of the proposals contained in the DOPC paper recently approved
by the Prime Minister.
4.
An invitation to the Chinese Government in February
1971 to send a Trade Delegation, headed by a Minister or Vice-
Minister, to visit this country is still outstanding.
Despite reminders the Chinese Government have not yet
responded to the proposal. It seems unlikely that they will
do so until there has been some progress over the Ambascadorial
exchange.
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PRESIDENT NIXON (DISCUSSIONS)
Q8. Mr. Dalyell asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on the talks he has had with President Nixon and to what extent they discussed common policy towards the People's Republic of China.
Q11. Mr. Blaker asked the Prime Minister whether he will make a state- ment about his recent discussions with President Nixon.
QIS. Mr. Frank Allaon asked the Prime Minister if he will make a stale- ment about his recent discussions with President Nixon.
The Prime Minister: President Nixon and I had extensive discussions ranging over the whole field of world affairs when we met in Bermuda on 20th and 21st December. We concentrated' in particular
on longer-term international issues, in- cluding developments in Europe, East West relations, the more active rôle of the People's Republic of China and the growing importance of Japan. We also exchanged views on monelary and trade questions in the light of the results of the successful meeting of the Group of Ten in Washington which immediately preceded our discussions.
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Q11. Mr. Arilius Lewis asked the Prime Minister whether he will take steps to ensure that in future all major statements of national importance, such as the appointment of chairmen of national boxlies, are made orally to the House of Commons and noi by writion
answer.
The Rome Master: No.. It for Ministers with information to give to the House to decide how to give it, having regard to live nature of the information' and normal practice in these matters.
CITINA (VISIT).
QI2. M. Arthur Lewis asked the Prime Minister whether he will now seek to pay an official visit to China, or invite Mr. Chou-En-Lai, the Prime Minister of China, to visit this country.
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Mr. David Price: I have been asked to reply.
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tion Supply if he will cause additional questions to be inserted into the social survey into the effects of sonic boom regarding the general physical and mental health of the interviewee.
Die Mudú asked the Minister of Avia-
Ms. Bavid Price: I have been asked to reply.
No. Answers to such questions, even if the individual were propared to give them, would be very dificult to evaluate
The Prime Minister: I have at present accurately for the purposes of this survey. to plans to do so.
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Mr. Arthur Lewis asked the Prime Minister to what extent, during the Five Power Conference
Conference on Far Eastern 'Defence, he took the opportunity of dis- cussing with Commonwealth leaders the effects of Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community under present known conditions of entry.
The Prime Minister: The effects of Britain's entry to the European Economic Community were not discussed at the conference. As to my discussions with Sir Keith Holyoake during his visit to London for the conference, I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave to his Question on 20th Apil-Vol 815, c. 382.) *
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The most recent part of the survey was comploted before the cancellation of .the Bocing 2707. The questions will be
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The data for completion of the survey will depend on the progress of the fight test programme. A summary of Tho results will then be published. This sur- 'vey will still be the only one based upon actual fights of a supersonic airliner. As such, it will be a useful addition to our knowledge of effects of supersonic-fights, and of propio's reactions to them.
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believe what the hon. Gentleman has in mind is that the Economic Development Committee for Mechanical Engineering, which is only one part of the engineering industry, made a forecast about short- term trends in mechanical engineering. Mechanical engineering is only part of the total, but is included in the overall engineering forecasts. It is those that
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COMMUNITY
Q2. Mr. Knufman asked the Prime Minister whether he will delay his signa- Lure of the treaty of accession to the European Economic Community until satisfactory arrangements have been worked out for trade between the Euro- .pean Economic Community and an inde-
pendent Rhodesia.
The Prime Minister: No, Sir. There is no connection between our accession to the European Economic Community and an eventual Rhodesian settlement.
Mr. Kaufman: Is it not absurd for the Government to lament the damage done to Rhodesian exports by sanctions and "then to seek to replace those sanotions by a common external tariff? Would it not be more consistent for the Govern ment either to abandon their attempt to drag an unwilling Britain into the Com- mon Market, or to call off their shameful deal with the Rhodesia Front-or, preferably, both?
The Prime Minister: No, Sir, there is no connection between them. As for a Rhodesian settlement, the hon. Gentle man is fully aware that the next stage is to await the carrying out of the fifth principle, which is to be put to all the Rhodesian people.
Mr. Evelyn King: Would it not be a good thing if, for the first time in seven years, the Prime Minister were to con centrate on the simple objective of advancing the economic prosperity of the Rhodesian people?
The Prime Minister: The House has debated this matter and can form its own judgment. The extent to which the lot, of Africans and others in Rhodesia can be improved is an important aspect, but we must now await implementation of the fifth principle.
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Minister if he will seek to pay an official 03. Mr. Pardoe asked the Pime
visit to the People's Republic of China.
The Prime Minister: 1 have at present no plans to do so.
Mr. Pardoe: Is the Prime Minister aware that China's recent emergence as
fully fledged world Power prepared to play her part in the concourse of nations is not only a great turning point in history in spite of President Nixon's visit, thers but offers a massive opportunity and that,
are real limitations to an improvement in relations between the United States and China? What action does the Prime Minister intend to take to ensure that this opportunity for a real leap forward in Sino-British relations does not go by the board?
The Prime Minister Successive British Governments have been aware of the points that the hon. Gentleman has made, It was a Labour Government who recog fnised Peking in 1950. I am glad to say that relations with Peking have improved considerably in the last year and thal we are discussing the question of our diplomatic representation with the Chinese Government.
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Mr. Gorst: Will my right hon. Friend bear in mind, nevertheless, that the sister of one of my constituents has been im- prisoned or detained in China without any information being given to her family and that such treatment of former British subjects does nothing to enhance a possible improvement in relations be tween this country and China?
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Mr. Maclennan: What progress has. been made with what Mr. Chou en Lai described as a major stumbling block to the alteration of our diplomatic relations, namely, the attitude of the British Gov. ernment towards the future of Taiwan?
The Prime Minister: This is a matter that we are discussing with Mr. Chou en Lai's Government.
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