"export of blue limestone."
*If the export from Kuangtung be entirely prohibited, "foreign merchants must go elsewhere and obtain their supplies
"from foreign countries, which will entail heavy cost of carriage.
*The quality moreover of foreign stone is not to be compared with *our Kuangtung stone, hence the cement manufactured therefrom will "not compare with our company's article and we will find an in-
"-finitely greater market for our goods. The prosperity of the "company accordingly depends entirely on whether or not blue lime-
*-stone can be exported".
H. B. L. Consulate-General,
Canton, March 21, 1913.
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Assistant Colonial Secretary, Hongkong.
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..Limestone.
REC? [Pro£19 MAY 13
March 11th., 1913.
.For the information of His Excellency the
Governor in the matter of a proposal to abolish the prohibition on the export of blue- -stone from Canton to Hongkong and to impose an export-tax under regulations similar to those governing the spirit-tax; the petitioner
was referred to the Industrial Commissioner.
...Copy of translation of extract from "Yang Ch'en
Hsin Pao" of March 11, 1913.
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Translation of Extract from "Yang Ch'eng Hsin Pao" of
March 10, 1913.
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Petition requesting the levy of an export-tax on stone.
Chang Ching-hsing has petitioned the Commissioner of
Finance to consider and decide as to the abolition of the export
prohibition on blue lime-stone and the imposition of an export-tax
under regulations similar to those governing the spirit tax. He proposes to collect capital from shareholders and establish an
office for the levy of the duty and he has petitioned the
Treasurer in this sense.
The latter replied that this matter affected the rights
and interests of the Canton Cement Company and referred the
applicant to the Industrial Commissioner with whom rests the
decision as to ekwther or not the application can be granted.
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REOP (REGE19 MAY 13.
His Majesty's Consul-Gemeral, Canton, presents his compliments to His Excellency the Governor of Hongkong, and has the honour to transmit herewith copy of the undermentioned paper.
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Reference to previous despatch:
Consul-General Jamieson to His Excellency the Governor
No. 18 of March 22, 1913.
Description of Enclosure.
Name and Date.
From Bureau of Foreign
Affairs of March 30, 1913.
Subject.
Export of Limestone.
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From the Commissioner of Foreign Affairs
to His Majesty's Consul-General.
March 30, 1913.
Export of Limestone:
Replies to queries put in Mr. Jamieson's
letter of March 21, 1913.
The Commissioner of Foreign Affairs has the honour to state in reply to the queries put in His Majesty's Consul-General's communication (of the 21st. instant) that he has ascertained from the Commissioner of Industry the following facts:-
In regard to Question No. 3, as to whether the contracts made by the Creen Island Cement Company were entered into and executed with the full knowledge and consent of the Imperial Government, the Commissioner has no source of evidence. He does, however, know that the Imperial Government prohibited contracts for the illicit quarrying and the illicit conveyance of limestone. In regard to Question llo. 4. besides the Fei Shu Quarry, the Imperial Government closed the following three quarries:- Lo Ti Wan (Lao Ti Wan) and the quarries in the vicinity in Ying Tuk (Ying Te Hsien) were closed down in the 1st. moon of the 33rd . year of Kuang Hsu (January 1907) by order of the Governor-General, Chou Fu, on account of the T'am Shai-lim (T'an Shih-lien) case; Lung T'ou Ying in Ying Tk (Ying Te Hsien) by order of the Gover- -nor-General, Chang Jen-chun in the 5th. moon of the 34th. Year of Kuang Hsu (June 1908); Pak Fui Hang (Pai Hui Hang) on the borders of Tung Koon (Tung Kuan Hsien) and Kuei Hsin (Kuei Shan Hsien) by order of the Tao tai of Industry in the 7th. moon of the
3rd. year of Hsuan T'ung (September 1911).
In regard to Question No. 6. the Commissioner has already stated in a previous communications that the Governor Ch'en's Proclamation of April 26, 1912, was directed against local bullies and unprincipled merchants. His Majesty's Consul- -General quoted the following sentences from the Proclamation:-
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"The natural products of China should belong to China. "The export of such products being a serious blow to her rights *and privileges, the Government have every right to prohibit the *export of blue lime-stone. If the export from Kuangtung be en-
"-tirely prohibited-
"must go elsewhere and obtain their supplies from foreign "countries which will entail heavy cost of carriage. The quality, "moreover, of foreign stone is not to be compared with our Kuang- *-tung stone, hence the cement manufactured therefrom will not "compare with our Company's article and we will find an infinitely *greater market for our goods. The prosperity of the Company "accordingly depends on whether or not blue lime-stone can be
"exported".
These sentences are merely quotations from the Petition and are inserted in the Proclamation in accordance with custom. The
Proclamation refers only to the prohibition of illicit quarrying and illicit conveyance of lime-stone, hence it is merely a state- -ment that such procedure should be prohibited; there is no mention of the prohibition of the export of lime-stone with the purpose of benefiting the Canton Cement Company.
The Commissioner has etc.,
(Signed and sealed by Lo Pan-hui, Commissioner
of Foreign Affairs.)
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RECO (REGE19 MAY 13
His Britannic Majesty's Consul-General has the honour to acknowledge the receipt of the Commissioner's letter of the 30th.
ultimo regarding limestone.
In reply he would beg to state that the issue by the late Imperial Government of likin receipts and Customs permits to export constitutes irrefutable evidence that all limestone supplied to the Green Island Company was shipped with their knowledge and consent, and that any action taken was not illegal nor irregular.
Mr. Jamieson would be interested to learn on what
grounds Governor-General Chou closed down the Lao Ti Wan quarry
in 1907, and, if possible, to receive a copy of His Excellency's
condemmatory rescript. ( ).
In spite of assertion to the contrary, he must still
maintain that the citation in Ch'en Tu Tu's proclamation of the
Canton Cement Works' petition implies an endorsement of its pro- -posals. If not, why was not the Treaty breaking nature thereof
reprobated or pointed out to the petitioners ?
Mr. Jamieson has now in this matter received specific
instructions from His Majesty's Minister, who has throughout been kept posted as to the correspondence which has taken place, but before carrying them out, he would be glad to know in what con-
-sists the "commercial procedure" put forward as an alternative
solution of the existing impasse in Mr. Lo's letter of February
22, 1913.
H. B. M. Consulate-General,
Cantan, April 2, 1913.
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Green Island Cement Company, Ltdi, Hongkong, 3rd. April, 1913.19 MAY 13
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We have the honour to enclose for the information
of the Government a copy of the claim of this delay on The Kwang Tung Government created by the latter's action over the Limestone
question.
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The claim has been handed to H. B. M. Consul-
-General at Canton who at last advices was undetermined whether
it would be expedient to put forward at this time what we call the contingent claim, viz. the one for 84,375,000.
We have etc.,
(Sd.) Shewan Tomes & Co.,
General Managers.
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STATEMENT of GREEN ISLAND CEMENT CO'S CLAIM on PROVINCIAL
in connection with stoppage of Limestone GOVERNMENT OF KWANGTUNG supplies by order of that Government.
For 24 years past, since the formation of the Green Island Cement Company, Limestone has been obtained from the Kwangtung
Province the system being to contract with Chinese for delivery ex
On the junks at the Company's Hok Un (Kowloon) or Macao Works 26th APRIL, 1912, the Kwangtung Government (suddenly and without warning) issued a proclamation of which the following is an extract:-
"The natural products of China should belong to China. "export of such products being a serious hlow to her rights and "privileges, the Government have every right to prohibit the export
"of blue limestone."
"If the export from Kwangtung be entirely prohibited, foreign "merchants must go elsewhere and obtain their supplies from foreign The quality "countries, which will entail heavy cost of carriage. "moreover of foreign stone is not to be compared with our Kwangtung #stone, hence the cement manufactured therefrom will not compare with "our company's article and we will find an infinitely greater market The prosperity of the company accordingly depends "for our goods.
"entirely on whether or not blue limestone can be exported."
The effect of this proclamation was not only to prevent the Company's contractors from fulfilling their existing contracts, but also made it impossible for the Company to enter into fresh contracts. The Company's supplies therefore came to a sudden stop, and as it has been impossible to obtain suitable limestone from other sources except at unreasonable cost the Company make the following claim on the Kwangtung Provincial Government: -
Limestone undelivered by Contractors owing to stoppage of export by the Canton Government amounted to 152,750 tons which would have produced 114,563 tons Cement or 687,378 casks.
From actual stoppage at end of July 1912 to the end
of December 1912 an average profit of at least 50 cts.
per barrel would have been obtainable on a monthly turn-
over of 70,000 casks, for 5 months, = 350,000 casks @
50 cts. =
From 1st January 1913, the selling price of cement!
having advanced, an average profit of $1.00 per cask
could have been realised on the remainder of the above
687,378 casks less sales of 350,000 @ 50 cts. profit
to end of December = 337,378 casks @ $1.00 =
At a rate of output of 70,000 casks per
month this quantity of 337,378 casks would
bring the Company's claim to say 24th May, 1913.
If full supplies of limestone are not
obtainable after that date, a supplementary
claim must be forthcoming until they are
175,000.
337,378.
obtainable.
West River Contractor's account for demurrage on
junks stopped by order of Kwang Tung Government =
Consequential damage owing to loss of markets and
encouragement of rival cements in this Company's
territories owing to this Company's inability to supply.).
Total Claim.
Should the Kwangtung Government continue indefinite}
-ly to deny the Company's right to secure stone from the
Province, the total claim based on a consumption of
175,000 tons per annum, the present cost of Tonkin stone being $1.50 per ton over the average price in the Co's
outstanding contracts for Kwangtung stone, would be $262,500 per annum which if capitalized @ 6% per annum)
would amount to
HONGKONG, March 27th, 1913.
100.000.
10$4,375,000.
Confidential.
Dear Jamieson,
Colonial Secretary
Hongkong, 5th. April, 1913.
The Governor has asked me to send you con-
-fidentially the statement enclosed which has been made to Mr. Tones. His informant was not prepared to sign the statement as he was not disposed to court persecution from the Chinese Authoriti-
Yours very truly,
(Sd.) Am Thomson.
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Statement by Pui Chee, Limestone Quarry Owner at Tong On, West
Read at Meeting of Directors on 26th. Larch, 1913.
Sunday, March 23rd., 1913.
Shewan Tomes and Company's Office.
lár. Pui Chee, apparently senior partner in the firm "Shun Yick" with whom the Company has had stone contracts, and who are also coopers for the factories, came to the office and in an interview with him, Mr. Hon Tsz being present, as well as the man we call Chan Chee, the following information was obtained:-
As far as Mr. Pui Chee's knowledge went no limestone was at present being cut at any place in Kwangtung except at Fah Yuen and at the Fei Shu quarry for account of the Kwangtung Cement Factory only. No stone at all was being quarried at Tung On, Mr. Pui Chee's native place on the West River. This prefectural town is situated 6 miles from the quarry and is near Shui Hing on the
Mr. Pui Chee headed a delegation of quarry owners that waited upon r. Kwan, the Commissioner of Industry, on Monday last, the 17th. instant, when it was represented to lir. Kwan the great hardship that was prevailing as regards the limestone quarries, and they applied to him again for the issue of the necessary permits to work. They apparently got nothing satisfactory out of Mr.Kwan beyond that he would look carefully again into the matter, and he intimated that the permits might be granted on condition that a
Buchners
promise was made that the quarry would not sell stone for export until Mr. Kwan was satisfied as to the proper action in the mean-
-time, in accordance with Article 12 of the Mining Law Regulations.
Mr. Pui Chee informed us that of the 8,000 tons of stone
he had lying on the River bank ready for us the Government had taken away about 7,000 tons leaving 1,000 tons, and that no money
whatever had been paid for what was taken.
On af being asked about the position of the junk men, he reported that they were doing nothing, and there were about 400 stone junks lying idle. He further said that a telegram had
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-lihood had been taken away from them.
Mr. Pui Chee also reported that in his interview with
Mr. Kwan the latter had laid great stress upon the point of the patriotic duty of all Chinese to support the Government in the measures they were taking to aid and assist the Chinese Cement Company as against the foreign Company in Hongkong.
It was explained to him that it was far from true that
Mr. Kwan and his brother officials' action was at all in the
interest of the Chinese generally, and that this coterie of offici-
-als was simply abusing their position and making use of the power they held to benefit the small interest concerned in the Kwangtung Cement factory; in which Company it was also believed
Mr. Kwan and other officials had a large private interest.
Mr. Pui Chee also produced some copies of the Bureau of
Industries monthly journal, in which were given some replies to
different application for permits to mine limestone Some of these
replies were translated but there does not appear to be anything
of material interest in them.
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Rece Reat 19 MAY 13
His Majesty's Consul-General, Canton, presents his compliments to His Excellency the Governor of Hongkong and has the honour to transit herewith copy of the undermentioned
Canton, April 4, 1913.
Reference to previous despatch.
Consul-General Jamieson to His Excellency the Governor.
No. 20 of April 2, 1913.
Description of Enclosure.
Name and Date.
Subject.
Consul-General Jamieson
Export of Limestone.
H.M. Minister,Peking,
No. 13 of April 4, 1913.
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April 4, 1913.
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In continuation of my despatch llo. 12 of March 22nd. I have the honour to transmit translation and copy of a further letter from the Commissioner of Foreign Affairs in the matter of the Green Island Cement Company's Limestone Supply, together with a copy of my reply thereto.
In view of the fact that in your telegraphic suggest -ion of Earch 20th. regarding the presentation of a claim, I was directed to say that "all friendly means of reaching a settlement having been exhausted", I consulted with the Hongkong Government as to the advisability of sending in the latter communication, in order to afford the local Government a final opportunity of ex- -plaining what they Leant by the alternative mode of settlement by "commercial" as distinct from "diplomatic", procedure. His Excel- -lency the Governor being of opinion that they should be afforded such an opportunity, the Memorandum was accordingly sent in last
I have little hope of its eliciting a reasonabl or any, offer, as Sir Henry May has privately received a report of a conversation, which one of the Creen Island Company's contract- -ors had with Mr. Kuan, the Industrial Commissioner, and which strikingly confirms all previous suppositions as to deliberate obstruction. The contractor asked when he might expect to receive permission to resume quarying and was told that he could start again for local consumption but not for export. At the same time an especial appeal was made to his patriotism in the shape of a request to stand by the Government and not to help the foreigner. As is only to be expected in the circumstances, however, the individual in question cannot so far be persuaded to append his
name to a written account of the interview.
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The Green Island Company have handed semi-officially to the Governor and myself a statement of their proposed claim, of which a copy is enclosed. When it comes to presentation, I should not feel disposed to press for consequential damage, unless you instruct me to the contrary. I have, therefore, the honour to solicit an expression of your views by telegraph on receipt hereof.
I have etc.,
(Sa.) J. W. Jamieson,
Sir John Jordan, G.C.I.E., K.C.B.,
His Majesty's Minister,
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[REG 19 MAY 13 1
His Majesty's Consul-General, Canton, presents his
compliments to His Excellency the Governor of Hongkong, and has
the honour to transmit herewith copy of the underwentioned paper.
Canton, April 19, 1913.
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Reference to previous despatch:
Consul-General Jamieson' to His Excellency the Governor
No. 21 of April 4, 1913.
Description of Enclosure.
Name and Date.
Subject.
From the Bureau of Foreign
Affairs 17.4.13..
Limestone.
Paraphrase of Telegram No.
14 to His Majesty's Minister
19.4.13.
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From the Commissioner of Foreign Affairs, Lo P'an-hui,
To H. M. Consul-General.
17th. day of April, 1913.
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Limestone.
The Commissioner of Foreign Affairs has the honour to
acknowledge the receipt of Mr. Jamieson's Memorandum of the 2nd.
instant and, after consultation with the Commissioner of Industries!
to reply as follows.
Mr. Jamieson states "that the issue by the late Imperial
Government of likin receipts and Customs permits to export cons-
-titutes irrefutable evidence that all limestone supplied to the
Green Island Company was shipped with their knowledge and consent
and that any action taken was not illegal nor irregular".
According to this argument, the possession of likin receipts and
export permits entirely legalises illicit quarrying and convey-
-ance of limestone or indeed any other action which is contrary
to the mining regulations. Such a contention is, the Comissioner
fears, unreasonable.
Again the Memorandum under acknowledgment states that in
Ch'en Tu Tu's proclamation the citation, without reprobation, of
the Canton Cement Works' petition implies an endorsement of its
proposals. This also is not the case, for it was unnecessary to reprobate the proposals put forward in the proclamation. The
proclamation made no mention of a prohibition against the export
of limestone nor was such prohibition ever made by our Government.
From this it is plain what Ch'en Tu Tu's intentions were.
*Commercial procedure" has already been explained by the
Commissioner in detail and the grounds on which Governor-General
Chou, under the Manchu Dynasty, closed down the Lao Ti Wan Quarry,
and his rescript on the case, have no connection with the question
at issue. These points, therefore, need no reply.
To sum up: this case is simply one of preventing crafty
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merchants from illicitly quarrying and exporting limestone: it is not one of preventing Chinese from supplying foreing merchants with limestone, nor is it a case of the Green Island Company's
contracts being irregular.
The Commissioner hopes that Mr. Jamieson will carefully
consider these points. By doing so he feels sure that he will
understand whether or not it is necessary to prevent crafty
merchants from illicitly quarrying and conveying limestone,
whether or not such preventive measures as are necessary are not
within the scope of our government authority, and whether or not the present action of our Government does actually stop merchants from acting in the illegal manner referred to. The case will then
admit of settlement.
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*ChomeϿtes to Jinbe
Mr. Jamieson's telegram No. 14 of April 19, 1913, to
His Majesty's Minister.
Paraphrase.
As reply to my Memorandum (Enclosure in my
Despatch No. 13) is unsatisfactory, presentation of claim will now
be necessary and I am proceeding to Hongkong to discuss matter with Governor. With reference to last paragraph have you any
instructions based thereon ?
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REGE 19 MAY 13
His Majesty's Consul-General, Canton, presents his
compliments to His Excellency the Governor of Hongkong, and has the honour to transmit herewith copy of the undermentioned paper.
Canton, April 25, 1913.
Reference to previous despatch:
Consul-General to His Excellency the Governor of
Hongkong.
Description of Enclosure.
Name and Date.
Subject.
Export of Limestone.
1. Consul-General Jamieson to
the Tu-tu of Kuangtung
22.4.13.
2. Consul-General Jamieson to
His Majesty's Minister.
Paraphrase of telegram
No. 16 of 25.4.13.
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MEMORANDUM.
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to nonevol and onelloort sill o fateno0-IunieÜ
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His Britannic Majesty's Consul-General presents his compli-
-ments to the Tu Tu and has the honour, under instructions from
His Majesty's Minister, to formulate, on behalf of the Green Island Cement Company, a specific claim in respect of the losses
which they have suffered sustained as a consequence of the action of the Kuangtung Government in cutting off supplies of limestone.
Since the interview on the 28th. January, at which this
matter was discussed in tripartite conference, various letters have passed between the Consulate-General and the Bureau of
Foreign Affairs on the lines then suggested by the Tu Tu, but
unfortunately they have not resulted in any modification of the
status quo ante. The local representative of the Company has call-
-ed on the Commissioner of Industries, with a view to ascertaining
on what basis a modus vivendi, satisfactory to both parties,
could be arranged but has been categorically informed that, unless
all idea of a claim for damages were abandoned, further negotiat-
-ions would prove futile.
All friendly methods, therefore, of arriving at at solution
having proved abortive and having been exhausted, His Majesty's
Minister has no alternative but to notify the Chinese Government
that a claim for damages past, and, should the present hostile
attitude be maintained, to come,
lies against them and Mr. Jamieson
has accordingly the honour to inform the Tu Tu of this fact.
In doing so he would express regret that all offers, which
he has made as to purchase of stone quarried, and all proposals
which he has put forward as to continued working have been re-
-jected, also that his request as to explicit information with
regard to a settlement on "commercial lines", first mentioned by
the Tu Tu, has been ignored.
His contention that the Green Island Company's contracts
were carried out with the full knowledge and approval of the late
Imperial Government has not and cannot be refuted, and the
cardinal circumstance of the insertion in Ch'en Tu Tu's proclama-
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and noh.w de,\rannab jut els no veivrerni end oonit
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-tion of the Canton Cement Works' monopolistic petition has not
been got over by the statement that it was merely a citation, for,
to anyone conversant with the effect which official proclamations
have on the minds of Chinese readers of such documents, it is
manifest that it was meant to act as a deterrent to all engaged in
the stone-quarrying industry and did do so. It has, whatever the
Commissioner of Industry may say to the contrary, completely cut
off all supplies of stone før export. Mr. Jamieson has repeatedly
stated that he has no desire to support Chinese citizens in commit-
-ting breaches of the law, but he finds difficulty in believing
that all limestone quarries in the province, with the exception of
those working the Fei Shu Quarry, are lawbreakers. In any case
neither he nor the Green Island Company can find any who are not
held to be such, and the Commissioner of Industry declines to
afford them any assistance both in this quest as well as in the
matter of getting their contracts carried out, although in the
last letter from the Commissioner of Foreign Affairs, dated the 17tl
instant, these are admitted to be not irregular.
Mr. Jamieson has also to express some surprise that during the months of discussion no attempt would appear to have been made to facilitate matters by investigating titles, so as to regularise the industry, which has been carried on by limestone quarriers in the province during at least the last twenty years.
H. B. M. Consulate-General,
Canton, April 22, 1913.
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Consul-General Jamieson to H. M. Minister.
Paraphrase.
Tel. No. 16.
Canton, April 25, 1913.
My despatch No. 13 of April 4th. I presented
today to the Tu Tu the limestone claims, as enclosed in above
despatch with the omission of consequential damage.
He reiterated the old argument, disclaiming responsibility in respect of damage and repeated the assertion
that no steps to assist the Company would be considered, unless
claim were abandoned. The interview, in brief, was inconclusive
and I informed him on departure that matter now rested with His
Majesty's Minister, who would press claim in Peking.
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Mr. Robinson 28/5 Griffin 286
Sir G, Fiddes.
Sir H. Just.
Sir J. Anderson.
Lord Emmott.
Mr. Harcourt.
For. Cuf 26-thal
30 May 13
With refer to the letter from
(205) this 29. the porch
Ansd 23889
I am re to request you to by
before Sucty Sir Edward Say the accompanying copy of a dep
with to enclomes
Othong on the subject of the
stoppage of supply of lining tone to th Green Island Cement Company Yth. Canton fot."
If Saccount thegled to be
furnished with
that die Lidwen Gay may
with to make & upon the matter
(8igned) H. J. READ.
for the Under Secretary of State.
Canton Lottery Bonds.
Brat 19 MAY 13
28 April.
Last previous Paper.
sends précis of adicle in
Canton newspape.
asti sale of. Encloses cornes with bonsul at-
Canton asti despatch 6 H. Kong of deputies to discuss with local merchants question of rehabilitation of cantor notes.
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amissariano (who were
the circulation
Gout had
subsequently repudiated)
of Kwangtung Gout
statement
reheated
CONFIDENTI Á L.
(Reat 19 MAY 13;
GOVERNMENT HOUSE,
HONGKONG. 28th. April, 1913.
Enclosure
In continuation of my Confidential Despatch of
the 13th. of March last, I have the honour to transmit the enclosed
précis of an article which appeared in the Canton newspaper "Chi
Shih Erh Hang Shang Pao" of the 23rd. instant concerning the sale
of Lottery Bonds.
Enclosure 2.
Enclosure 3.
I take this opportunity of transmitting for
your information copy of a letter I addressed to His Majesty's
Consul-General at Canton on the subject of an article, translation of which is enclosed, which appeared in a local Chinese newspaper
of the 11th. instant to the effect that the Governor-General at
Canton had sent deputies to this Colony to discuss with local
Merchants measures to be taken for the rehabilitation of Canton
Notes, and of the reply received from Mr. Jamieson. Following its
usual practice the Canton Government simply denies the truth of the
newspaper report. In this connection I would refer you to the open- 773-ing paragraphs of my Confidential Despatch of the 31st. October
last. So far as I am aware no deputies have reached the Colony yet.
But in these days it is not easy to distinguish servants of the Canton Government from laymen.
Enclosure 4.
I have the honour to be, Sir,
Your most obedient, humble servant,
Governor,&c..
THE RIGHT HONOURABLE
LEWIS HARCOURT, M.P.,
Enclosure
17021 505
Extract from the "Chi Shih Erh Hang ShangYo
Translation.
23.4.13.
Canton Lottery Bonds. Reasons for failure of the Scheme.
The treasurer reports to the Tu Tu that notwithstanding
his efforts to sell the Lottery Bonds, not more than $2,400,000
worth have been purchased, that is, about a quarter of the total
value. The reasons for this unfortunate state of affairs are:-
1. The opposition of the British Government which prevents
sale in Hongkong. Agents appointed to sell the Bonds abroad have
refused to go as they expect similar prohibition there.
The fact that so many subscriptions had already been freely contributed by the people.
3. The small chance there is of obtaining even a moderate prize.
Genelong
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Enclosure 2.
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Government House,
Hongkong, 24th. April, 1913.
I have the honour to transmit in original and
translation the enclosed extract from the "Tsun Wan Yat Po" of
11th. April and if the facts are as therein stated to ask you to
©(good as to call upon the Tutu for an explanation of the action he has taken in directing the despatch of deputies to this Colony
to discuss with local merchants measures for the rehabilitation of
Canton notes.
In this connection I would suggest that the
attention of the Canton Authorities might be drawn to the Memorandum which formed an enclosure to your despatch No. 52 of
12th. October, 1912.
I have etc.,
(Sd.) F. H. May,
His Britannic Majesty's Consul-General,
Governor,&c..
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Enclosure
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Extract from Tsun Wan Yat Po, Hongkong, 11th. April, 1913.
Further endeavour to restore the face value of Canton Notes.
During the last two days the value of Canton Notes in the
market has suddenly risen to 90% of their face value. In purchase
of articles they are accepted at something more than 91% of their
original value, and in payment of the cost of goods ordered from
foreign merchants in Hongkong they can be tendered at the rate of
90% of their face value. Now the Governor, desiring to avail him- -self of the opportunity to promote the note currency, has special- -ly directed the Commissioner of Finance to send deputies to proceed to Hongkong without delay to discuss with the various Hongkong
merchants with a view to the restoration of the face value of
Canton notes. The Government will be responsible for any loss the
merchants may sustain in the undertaking, and after the arrival
in Canton of the full amount of loan recently raised from the United States, new notes will be issued to redeem all the present notes the Hongkong merchants may have collected in hand. By means
of this endless benefits will be rendered to the market in the
shortest duration. Further the Commissioner of Finance has request- -ed Li Yuk Tong the ex-Commissioner of Finance to proceed to Canton to discuss the various necessary measures.
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H.B.M.Consulate-General,
Canton, April 25th., 1913.
Having reference to Your Excellency's despatch
No. 21 of yesterday's date, I have the honour to state that I
asked the Tu Tu this forenoon whether or not the extract from the
Chinese press, there in enclosed, was based on fact.
He authorised me to inform Your Excellency in reply that nothing of the kind had happened, and that he had not
even asked lir. Li to come to Canton.
I have etc.,
(sd.) J. W. Jamieson,
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His Excellency
Sir Henry May, K.C.M.G.,
Governor, Hongkong.
Consul-General.
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We really know hardly enough about this
offier's official
in Houghing to mate us
to bring his name before the Pali: Com: witte
his beling recommended.
reasable prospect of his beling
All we have is
Si 7. Lurgandi Conf: Report for 1910
"P.P.M.O report's heire as
Next subsequent Paper promotion outside Colny".
qualifède pro desirous
somewhat more
? I uned point this out & ask for detailed partirulen of
partirulers of her service in the Colony.
ative Cattermost. C.M. 22/5/13
CONFIDENTIA L.
Rece REGE 19 MAY 13
GOVERNMENT HOUSE,
HONGKONG. 28th. April, 1913.
With reference to Dr. Moore's application for
transfer forwarded in my Confidential Despatch of 28th. December,
12-13 1912, I have the honour to inform you that Dr. Moore hes renewed
his application on the ground that his wife who returned only a
few months ago after an absence from the Colony of 3 years finds
that the climate here does not suit her health.
I have the honour to be,
Your most obedient,
humble servant,
Governor,&c..
THE RIGHT HONOURABLE
LEVIS HARCOURT, M.P.,
Gov. 17022 Athony.
động trong
Jor. Si F. H. May, Reing.
MINUTE. 22
Mr. Heater 23
Mr. Macnoghten 24/5/13
Sir G. Fiddes.
Sir H. Just.
Sir J. Anderson.
Lord Emmott,
Mr. Harcourt.
tha is wittenm the
wcaption that are
for the other.
27th May 1913.
I have the honom to ack.
the receift of your Conf. despatch of
"Thiff in 26p the 28th ultime and to informe
(point out to you love the
My about.
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you that It is ho
I should be furnished with
somewhat more
detailed partianlars
Z Dr Merore's Levice in
before kismaffelen. for
out infer which I have received in regard Or More v verice inttrngkong
is contained in the comp: report exctores permi's deat
Kong 1 transfer comb
Si 74 Lugand in 1910, whith slated "P.C.H.0 reparti heen as qualifère pou
deusons of promotion outside
the Colony"
considering his puitability
city & percipe
in connection with Macancies
(but may occur in other paste of the Col Sercire
HONG KONG
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Reco Ref 7 JUN 13
Colitical Ictuation
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CONFIDENTI
RECR REGS 7 JUN 13
Government House.
29 April 1913.
Yo.14279
In continuation of my confidential
despatch of 1 April, I have the honour to enclose
for your information a copy of a letter I addressed,
at the request of Mr. Jamieson,H.B.M.s Consul General
at Canton, to Sir John Jordan this day.
I enclose a copy of Mr.Jamieson's letter
to Sir John Jorden.
I have the honour to be,
Your most obedient humble servant,
Governor, &c.
The Right Honourable
Lewis Veron Harcourt.M.F.
&c. &c. &c.
Enclosure Nol. to Movemen's Confidential th
thaft 19365
RECO REGA 7 JUN 13
Aovemment House
29 April 1913.
Dear Dir Jolm Jordan,
I agree Generally with the views
Axpressed by Jamieson in his private note to you of
the 20th.instint, except as regards the motive of
the proposed ceppalin against iusala, upon which
abject I canot venture an opinion.
At Luo sa le time, though there is no one
personality or political influence at Canton, the
Goverment there is a solid clique of the Kwo Kin T'enp
und de & body has political influence. As far as I
con leun Limy Shih Yi's mission when he oame South
recently, was to find out how far the wo Din T'ang
În a Weng, Durys would support the election of Yuan hih X'ai
Ga Preulgent. It is impossible for me to say wint
conclusion ite arrived at. but I leam from Clr Chenting
lieg uʼheng, who is now resident in Longkong, that
Liary, see tang Shao-yi and that the latter promised to
Do So poking shortly. How Tar fheo-yi is the head of
the T'uy song lai ( now merged in the wo Min T'an; }
and fuar no soubt hoped to gain the support of the
latter cotlety through him. But since T'ang'a promise
the murder of sung has occurred, which has so much
incensed the Awo dân T'ang. As far as can be gathored
from Mory kong serchants of the best class, they and
the mercantile community of Canton are tired of the
Kwo «lu 1'ang Government at Canton who seek not
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"the public advantage but are intent on filling their own pockets ". I an assured that, if Yuan rere to take strong action in Canton with a view to turning out the existing Goverment there, the people of Canton would atanu astus and would not support the latter.
Sir Chentang Liang Ch'eng endorses that view.
But i rust say that it is very difficult to get
trustworthy expressions of opinion from chinese here.
10 boin with, very many of our leading Chinese citizens
are know to be members of the Kwo Min T'anE • Meny
And although more are members though they might deny it.
there are signs that there is some dissension in the party, no one yet has dared to secede from it openly.
Moreover I have done my best to stop our local Chinese
from medüling in Chinese politios. This makes it all
the more difficult to get information on political
nettore.
Y ure sincerely,
Enclosure No 2
to governor's Confidential of
29 April 713.
Consul General Jamieson to H.M.Minister.
Confidential.
April 26, 1913.
ky.dear Sir John,
The Northern press and its editors are emphasising the indications of an impending rupture between North and South, and I, therefore, venture to give you a
appreciation of the sisuation in the South,i.e. this
Consular district, for which only I can speak, from the point of view of one on the spot.
Kwang tung's political wirepulling would appear all to be done by the representatives of the province in Shanghai or Peking, for with the exception of T'ang Shao
Yi, who still sulks in his tent at Hsiang Shan, there is no one left at home capable of pulling political wires end there does not seem to be any outcry for secession amongst the people. I may be wrong in my estimate of the
man, but I do not credit the Tu Tu with an excess of
brains or iniatiative and it is a wonder to me how he has been able to maintain himself for so long, although I must confess that, when I saw him yesterday, he gave me the impression of having gained considerably in self- reliance and confidence. The foreign educated young gentlemen, who administer the province under him, are too busy looking after their own departments, and in one or two instances in endeavouring to improve their financial positions, to have any time left to devote to high politics.
Sir John Jordan,G.C.I.E.,K.C.B.,K.C.M.G.
etc. etc. etc.
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I transmitted to you for what it was worth my German
colleague's piece of information regarding the alleged
telegram from Huang Hsing and I am inclined to put faith
in its authenticity, as its presumable source was Carlowitz
and Company, the peculiar nature of whose business, always
leads them to cultivate close relations with local
Government cirole8. This morning Sir Henry May sends
me a telegram passing on Sun Yat Sen's declaration to
the Manager of the Hongkong Bank at Shanghai, to the
effect that should the Sextuple Loan be issued to the
Provisional Government, without the Agreement first
being submitted to the National Assembly, South China
would repudiate liability and resist the North by force
of arms. Throughout the winter Kwangtung has been
making appeals to Chinese abroad for subscriptions
towards the maintenance and equipment of a military
contingent, amounting roughly to a division, for a
campaign in Zongolia, and i have often been puzzled
as to the inwardness of such appeals. It now dawns on
me that the ulterior object may from the beginning have
been the organisation of a force to operate, should
occasion arise, against the orth, but this is mere
conjecture,
I have asked the Governor of Hongkong, to
whom I am sending a copy of this letter, to write to
you privately supplementing it with any observations
he may have to make, gathered from intercourse with
prominent Chinese in the Colony.
▲ despatch regarding the presentation of
the Green Island Cement Company's claim goes by this
opportunity.
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Goverrunent.
The argument that the Provincial Government
are under no obligation to supply the Company with stone
and are accordingly not responsible for any losses
incurred through failure to obtain the same is in the
circumstances a plausible one, and might be held as
valid, were the Canton Cement Works not a Government
undertaking and had the Government not refrained from
taking any steps to render assistance by regularising
the industry, and had they not, throughout the negociations
for arrival at a friendly settlement, made use of tactics-
intentionally dilatory and deliberately obstructive.
It is matter for the greatest regret that no written
evidence of interested intrigue on the part of the
Commissioner of Industry is obtainable.
I am, dear Sir John,
Yours sincerely,
Jamieson.
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