the building her
sin which it
it would
have been proper that
your permiinipa
bean hali
sutititute for
and heliver
altungt hour
remigion and ben fish Mai
For consow
243 f forskeltained.
hot having the
corresponderer before
I cannot express any
further opinion
the special case,
but speaking generall
I am advised it worth that
responsible for a busfictio tie care of & hestital
the hodical Officers fo
the proper pinages as to
whether the
Tomart would
bea inconsistent
with the welfan of
any of the footed patients (
and I do not see
a Aispital
that the fact of
building how being
public profet world.
renders the use git
that in question
improper. I may
out that public
buildings in this
Country are
oicanimally Jaktf
used for gatheringt in
Lowhich the general
publics do not take
past, and the same
hildings
observation afflies to Government to in
The Edo.
(84,7378) 3000 7-88
lemor. No.
Marin 97
previous Paper.
(arts Prof Qual. Lasses
121-30 many
Agent just 31 may
subsequent Paper.
trong trong
(Subject.)
Pension or Brice.
DESPATCH.
JU APR 39,
paper of particulars. Remarks
on additional years for professional qualification.
(Minutes.)
M. Round
is with ym.)
Pension Regul
It is most unlikely that the proposed to zears additions for professinal qualifications will be allowed (any more
the Straits) + I see no reason why M. Price should have more than five years
Existing
provided by
the date of Mr. Price's retirement
raft me date per in not given; W. Brown, whose
must begin
letter to him.
5431) left England en 4 Afiel
5.W.2.22/4
(see 6869)
M. Hemming.
M- Price seems to have been burpincer of the Liens Leme Harbour Works when appointed
to Hongkong in 1875 that was an ordinary appointment on
tell me whether
the repute.
Establishens ofthe Colony, which would be funcinett,
Temperang Engageen ass for a execise putting
work which would ordinarily not carry any
to pension:
W. Albrill
Jen 23/4/0797
papers showing the
Conditions of but. Price's Engagement
Olt. M. 30.
Bee minution ?
shewing Vol.64
Hang Kany torters! 1872.
113121/76
Mr Antrobux.
conditions & his "sierraleone
engagement.ga
M. Round.
The minuter shew that W. Price
not on the regular establishment of V.
W. Meule Wht. Mag 3.
The fol: in question, - Wt. I have retares Library-shun that sor-Price did not hold a pensionable appointment in Sierradione, that he was to receive Strykmy half salary from date of leaving
Sierra Leone, as he had no claim for leave
in connection with his temporary &haployment there
So that Mr Price's claim to
pension rests solely
hin seprice.
and I think he should be treated by that Colony, as if he had,
(Just entered its service direct from a privati profession
Basis of Lalary for pension.
Under the old H. K. persion minute of 1862 pension was tobe "computed upon
the salary of the permanent Office held by a public servant at the time ofhis retirement, provided he thall have held the same office for at least 2 years and that the salary of the same thall not have been revised during that lime"; the draft minal. of 1876, which Ibelieve to have begin" stud", "made minute
no change in this respect; neither pro
Conlains any provision for counting any Cimolements other than salary. In 1887 Mr. See 8/6/558 21970 Price was pronted a personal allowance in
compensation for having dandoned some fees which he might have claimed under fortolk Repulation, fil was promined that, the thuld retive before 3 years, they proposed that the comer should be countach would be considered favorably.
After such an intimation, the lot: authoritie take it for pranted that the allowance is
now to be counted; and Suppose it must be, but it is clearly not within the letter of
enisting
Jam not mad what is proposed
in the new draft minute on this point; but
key view is that the "solany
"should be Changed to "pensionable emoluments," the average of such biolum, cuts during the last 3 years should aluray, be taken, whether the Officer has received an increase of mohmments in the same office, or has been from oted to another office within that period. It is the simplest hile, stends
recommendations
to limit jobbery,
to for personal increase, of salary, shortly before probable refivement are by no means
uncommon.
/ Length of service.
Zr. Decimis
were wholly
Sheptional k notisee and it wold below have been u Eduide
different.
As Mr Bornand left-England resore no? he left
Ido not know how this was die thwatch, it was us in in absence.
lo question
feed little doubt that the method of calculation adopted in that despatch will reduce M.
Prices pensionable service just below the
16 years. ;
& I would assume
for the purpose of firing the alien batery, allowance
which will have the given him
Professional qualifications
as for dy
There is no doubt that under the minate of 1862, funder the minate, while
is tippond Khave been immed in 1876, Surveyor General coon only claim 5 years. "In bryland a Royal Cont. has recomenaded the alplition.
"Also in the recently imed Strait. Rentin it has been decided to adier to the old rule there that 5 year
Which could be granted to any professinal
This also accord, with the Ceylon
mmg beginto thwold far-
we years was
ver raised in whack case
England 49 min per 9.27/5
im. Price, left
the date of Mr Price's depectanc, & M. Prices persion must date from the date he left, this Hayken 8.3 Head
from service will be apparently 16 yn tone month; but assuming the drift M-Johnson had prepared as to Mr Mouself, case to
cland, I think we meast ask for an exact staterat of all the leave IW- Price has hest; and
heinated, which any give the Heads of
thony HP Work Dept: 5 year in additiona furry to the sugar for climate, that; then on a par with their subordinate professional Officers- & this practice no doubt gives an Officer with thortish service rather a libent hension
Thowever rather lean tithe view that the head of a great professional Sept., thoupe
in from outsich the service, tif debarred from priate
practice should be treated liberally, for fomentat better toms than his subordinates. He would be seldom appointed under 30, & Swould make this a condition of receiving anything more,
than 5 years?
At the same time I would not give 10 4 cars besides climate bonus; this would have the effect of giving a Surveyor General with in service of from 10 to 15 year better terms t
Chief Justice.
Ithink I might be allowed, this in what are usually allow to Leads of Oolonial Public work, Depts who have to be dealt with under
Imperial practice, of that in addition to the Climate bonus makes a handsome pression in the case of offices with fron
be considere
15 to 25 your service, which may The average in the care of professional other Intering after 30 year of age. Besides the Chief Medical Officer, I doubt whether there
in any me che in Staphing, who need begira more than 5 years. Mes can be considered Leprately. on the several papers; but if Lord kuuli ford apren to this, I think it might brallance & M-Price.
And this all five him mall 27th
"of $2808 Genal
th's to £585 ayeur, which to a man of 48 is a valuable pension. Whe
Jague with my sounds conclusions
The alimentary
profard unles
Iv Themetté case
allandure
the devision in
is vom to ther
Ane 2115
I find from Leave Certif. in In that the 23 months leave 2189/80-1 referred
to under Head X
Paper included the 4 months vacation leave taken in conjunction with the half pas
W. Price had no
pas leave.
& further that previous half
Home this leave
being pisk under 2 years in lear the one sight of hortowice
The total resident service betw
to and of 1886 from [see draft on Thomaett's case on 15910/88)
commencement
12 years 10 months - 1. Zr. 11 matter
= 10 Wears 111⁄2 marther
And me sixth of this =
= 132.97 mother
# thers took its month's more than he
can count in full, & deducting half of this from his total service he will
зеапрарат
still have 16 years &a few days
When I urote.
the above I was under the unpressin
that W. Price went from S. Leone
to Haughing
without waiting ? how define
modely any length of time, but it
appears from 2976/73 herewith)
(in Volume
three months in England
Jay from Hongkong. Though he
but ibere do
asked for that for relaxation, it at his on t was only granted in order
he should assist dir R. Rawlinser
in preparation of plans to for Pokfalum
Water Works".
I am therefore
I doubt wheter
inclined to think that the period then should be events,
spent in England may regarded
at a stretch the
spent on duty, and need not therefore be subject to the rules applicable to half pay leave. The time spent on voyage from S. Leme t England & from England to Haughing
world in
case not be subject to
deduction for pension purposes?
8.W.9.27/5/89
full pay service with
Juicing & the he have a chai
I do not necess
olby Lord,
Government House;
Kongtong, 194 March, 1807,
With reference
Your Lordship's despatch N. 18 of the 18th of January, I have the honour to forward the
Form of Particulars for
28 March, 2
nadie the draft for cowor
scendingly.
When an officer goes dined from me Colony to the other the time of his pattay, may somation in have been counted in full, but When an officer comer to this country, fis allowed to stay here, & to only si con the half pay of his air inployer, because being be cognized as havity any claim in the old one, Münch if bi ont entable that such period should be treated like any
fron by the hamm Amployer accndry to its repition, there
conceteriat
e Right Honourable The Lord Knutsford, Gemy,
computation of Mr. J. M. Price's pension which has -
been fixed at 86% of his -
total emoluments, or Two
thousand seven
and four dollars per annum, according to the Pension Regulations in forse at ~ present.
I have to point out, however, that in the Draft Hongkong Pension Minute,
in my despatch
forwarded in
the 7th of February,
proposed
1888, it was
addition of 10 years
to the period
service should be made, in
consideration of professional
qualifications, in the case
officer whose annual salary
was in excess
of $3,600 per
annum; and the Surveyor. General was named in the
list of officers entitled to the allowance for professional qualifications, which accompanied the Minute..
Mr Price has applied
that an addition of 7 years for professional qualifications,
which is the same as
• professional
officers of the second grade in
the Civil Service in
\ receive, may
him for computation of time for pension, instead of 5 years
be recorded to
to which he is entitled under
existing regulations; and, apart from the fact that in the Draft Minute a still larger allowance is contemplated, would strongly recommend
Mr Price's application to Your Lordship's favourable consideration,
in consideration of his
exceptionally
valuable services to this
Government.
If the Draft
Minute should be approved
of Mr. Price will,
obtain the benefit of its
provisions, and receive the :larger addition of 10 years.
Mr Price proposes to
leave the Colony
the 23rd
instant, and I shall appoint Mr. Cooper, the canitury Engineer,
to act as
Surveyor General until : the arrival of Mr Price's succisor, while Mr Bowdler will be
seconded for the special charge of the Praya Reclamation - Works.
I have the honour to be, My Lord, Your Lordship's Most Woodment
Humble Cervant,
Enclosure
COLONIAL PENSIONS, &c.
PARTICULARS required to be furnished in reference to Persons recommended for Superannuation, Compensation or Compassionate Allowances, or Gratuities on retirement.:
1. Naine of Applicant.
2. Office or Situation
3. Recommended for.
(In filling up this Puper refer to the Instructions on page 4.)
John Macneile Price
Surveyor Geurral
a pension
Forly eight
5. Service in Years and Months
6. Annual Salary or-Wages
Allowance
For 0 APR 39/
of 8. 24you...
years and 21 days. fetual.
7. Emoluments authorized in 5. of 5. Deep: 122713.
of 25 November 1889 27
Total amount of Salary or Wages and Emoluments on which 6240.-
Superannuation, &c., is claimed,.
S. Cause of Retirement.
ill health five ver
9. Dates of Commencement and Termination of the several Appointments held by Applicant, with their
Emoluments, distinguishing Salary from other Allowances and specifying such Allowances.
Title of Appointmeut.
Date of Commence-
Date of Termination.
Allowances, &c.
Namre of Allowances, &c.
Survey & General
22 Feby 1873
1st four mar: sy60 480
1877 1889
see above
* The date he left Sierra Leorne and draw & pay from Hong Kong
10. Whether each of the Appointments held by the Applicant has been on the Fixed Establishment 18. Statement, if the circumstances warrant it, that the Applicant "has discharged his duties with
of the Colony.
11. Whether the duties of the several offices or situations held since the Applicant entered the Civil Service have been such as to require that the holder should give his whole time to the Public
Service.
12. Whether holding any other Public Appointment, or receiving or claiming to receive any Public
Money by Compensation, Half-Pay or otherwise.
13. If any kind of Pension or other Allowance has been commuted under the Imperial Pensions Com- mutation Acts, 1869 and 1871, and annual amount of Pension or Allowauce so commuted and
the date of Commutation should be inserted.
14. Absence, beyond ordinary Vacation leave, in each of the last 10 years :----
diligence and fidelity, to the satisfaction of the Head Officer or Officers of his Departinent,” to be signed by any two of such Head Officers, if there shall be more than one, or by such Head Officer, if there shall be but one, together with "such a statement as will exhibit the "merit, and value, and labour of the services of the Person recommended, embracing as long a "period of his public service as can be authentically stated," and observations us to Special Services, Suspension, Reprimand, &c., with full particulars of any injuries received on duty, or other clains or matters for consideration.
I have expressed my opinion Elsewhere (Despatch ho 163 of 6th June 1888) as to the
very great and exceptional value Prices services.
19 Computation, by the Auditor General, of the Pension, &c.
Period of Absence.
21. Deer
» 21 hove
Number of Days.
Cause of Absence.
23 mouths
residential
15. Date of Cessation of Duty,
23 Movet li
16. Date of Cessation of Salary,..
17. Date from which, inclusively, Pension will commence,...
I certify that the pension.
according to the Rules of the Colonial Service, amounts to
which may be paid to the Applicant Two thousand
swen hundred and your dollars
and I base my Certificate on the following calculation :-
Mr Price list Surra Leone for Hong kong on the 22?? February 1873, and on the 2200 February last be com =
since 1877 has to this is added $480.
pleted 16 years service & firs been $5.760. per annum -
Personal Allowance authorized by Secretary of State
ii Despatch he 221 of 25th November 1887 as person-
which al Emolument so that the total amount on superannuation is claimed is $6240--
Climate allowa wll
Proposional allowance.
16 years
He will thus be entitled to a pension of $2704 pur annum, being 20th of his total emolument
of 7 years as 8 2912-
Profissional allowance. the
Auditor.
Instructions.
135 March, 1889-
Hangkung
Instructions referred to on page 1.
If this Paper of Particulars and the Certificates connected with it, be not sent in original, the copies
must be duly attested.
Head of Paper.-In the case of an Officer serving on the West Coast of Africa, a statement is to be added whether he is
a native of that Coast. (Colonial Regulations, § 430).
Head 3-State the description of Allowance for which the Application is recommended, viz., Superannuation, Compensation, Compassionate Allowance, or Gratuity, and its amount. In the case of Persons claiming an addition to their
"GW. Des Voeux
14. Johnnn 27 May
Pensions in respect of Professional or other special qualifications, this should be stated, and a reference should be Mr. over I
given to the authority under which the claim is made.
Hend 5-If the service has been interrupted by one or more breaks, the word "broken" should be added before or after the number of years and months, and the causes, dates, and circumstances of the break or breaks should be stated nuder heading 9.
Heal 6-If the person retiring has been in receipt of the same Salary, or in the class from which he retires, for the 30 months immediately before the date of his retirement, the actual annual rate of Salary or Wages at that date should be inserted, preceded by the word "actual" In other cases the average annual amount of Salary or Wages for the 30 months next preceding the date of retirement should be inserted, preceded by the word "average," but if the whole period of service is less than three years, then the average for the whole period of service should be inserted. Head 7---A separate statement should be inserted of the average Annual Value, for the 36 months immediately preceding retirement, of each Emolument (exclusive of salary or wages) which is claimed to be included in the calculation of the Pension or Gratuity.
Whenever the value of a House or House Allowance, so ascertained, exceeds one-sixth of the sulary and other emoluments which count for Pension purposes, it is to be reduced to one-sixth of that amount, so that it shail not exceed one-seventh of the whole.
Fees which an Officer is allowed to retain for his own use will be taken into account for Pension purposes, with regular salary, at the annual average of the net receipts of the 36 months next preceding the Officer's retirement. These net receipts are to be ascertained by deducting from the gross amonat of Fees such Office Expenses, &c., as an Officer may have had to defray from his own resources, in performing the services for which he was remunerated by Fees. No deduction, however, from the Fees should be made in respect of Office Expenses provided from Public Funds, for the due discharge of those duties to which a Fixed Salary is annexed. Papers of "Particulars” when forwarded to the Colonial Department should be accompanied by formal Declarations from the retiring Officers, showing the amount received by them for Fees, and the amount defrayed as above for Office Expenses, &c., in each of the three years immediately preceding the retirement. It will be the duty of the Colonial Governments concerned to satisfy themselves of the accuracy of such statements before forwarding them to the Colonial Office. In the case of Officers receiving Fixed Salaries and Fees, the Fees will not in ordinary circumstances be allowed to count for Pension par poses to the extent of more than one quarter of the Salaries, and Fees will not in any case be allowed to count for Pension purposes during any period in which the whole time of the Officer receiving them was not given to the Public
Service.
Head 8.-In cases of infirmity, if the Applicant is below the ordinary age for retirement, a Medical Certificato is to be furnished showing that he is disqualified by infirmity of mind or body for discharging the duties of his situation, and that such infirmity is likely to be permanent.
In ense of ten years' service or more, this Certificate should be signed by two Officers, of whom at least one should,
if possible, he a Saloried Officer of the Government.
Hend 9-As to "broken" service, see Head 5.
If the Applicant has had any "acting" service, the details must be fully given, with a statement whether or not, during the "acting" service, he was connected with the permanent Civil Service of the Colony.
Head 11.--If, in special circumstances, a professional Civil Officer has been allowed to have "private practice" without
forfeiting his claim to Pension, the facts are to he fully stated.
Head 14.--If the Applicant is Hable to any deduction from his service under Clause 102 of the Colonial Regulations, the
facts should be fully stated.
Head 19.-The length of service and other particulars of the computation are to be given. When an average of Salary,
&c., is takeu, the mode of calculating it (whether by months, &c.) is to be explained.
Mr. Wingfield.
Mr. Bramstou.
Mr. Meade.
Sir R. Herbert.
Baron de Worms.
Lord Knutsford.
See further minute
30 Mas 89
I have the homon
I to ack: the receipt of
Accod 15.9467
Jou desp "no 97 of the зам
19th of March last, fervanding respecting
the pension th
to be awarded to m
I. M. Price.
2. In accordance
with my desp?
221 of 25
tr Nov. 1887
with 2.7. Z for sing.
allow Mr. Price's penam
to be calculated
the salary of 186240,
to be has not
although
drawn that rate fr
three gears previous to his retirement, and it will be understood that this will not t form a precedent, an
the circumstance
addition wa
under which Mr
Price's salary were quite exceptional.
3. As regards ther
addition of gears for Professional Qualifications,
Iam not prepared
the Nadditio
under this head
of ten years for certain
officers, profore 254
the Draft Minute which accompanied
desp.no.43
is it would ha: the effect of rims: the Feb. 188d; but I
such officers with from to tology
Service a
higher to the Stension the #. Indger ofthe deprevs: Sonst
as W. Price
that his
"practically seemy previous service in S. Lame was
merely temporary & not preusimath
think that the head of
into fessional dept as "the surveys Generali
may if brought in from for? outside the service tif
debarred from private practice may reasonably
be granted
his Assistant
a larger additing
Segas provided is not under 30 gears.
of age when appointed.
Iwill address zu
separately
Exact wording of
the minente.
promit, but meanwhile
gam willing to
Japprove of
addition
in this respect
of gears being allowed in
W. Price's case
previous
Seira Leone was
sferely temporary Infor peusimables,
he may Though
Mr. Wingfield.
Mr. Bramston.
Mr. Meade.
be treated
he had entered
The Hufigkang service direct from a private poffessing.
4. As regards the
length of service
which Mr Price's
movie pensim is to be calculated, I have
to refer you to my
Sir R. Herbert.
Baron de Worms.
Lord Knutsford.
the wistant, showing
how the pensionable
service of Hayking
is to be calculated
officers
Particulars
The Paper big time design
fiver the date of his bearing
date of the county excerpent of his toy hophon
but it does not
the extent of the period for which he wa
for whatham
M. Price had
half pay leave
previous to the
in 1800-2
leave specified under
HeadXIV, but I gather from the Leave Certif. in did. Oftennessy's desk wo
201 of 31th Dec. 1880, that
previous
there was no
holly leave, and further
further that the
23 months inn 1880-
1852 was
inclusive
vacation leave.
would appear
It will be seen
the period during which he was action of his hit together wit
This period of
three months exceeded
Carlitana Anal
one sixth of the total
resident service up t
End of 1886, reckoned бидезья
as impar. 7 of my
desp of the 27
but as the exe
the wrist,
less than two panther, the deduction to be
mate from this gross f service will be loos
in the absence of there precis ion formation it in hot promis to say what renset Ledni Should be made from his good lupt of service, or whether
Mr. Wingfield.
Mr. Bramston.
Mr. Meade.
Sir R. Herbert.
Baron de Worms.
Lord Knutsford. I.
the one month, and
the gross
being to gearst month, Mr Price's pensionable
catends to 16 years
service in just o
5. In the abov
Computation There
regarded as lear
not taken out ofcont
of absence
the three moufter
spent in England by
W. Price with half
Salary before starting to take off his Haughing apportment,
that time was
that tim
occupied.
with granted in order. that he might assist
Sook Realism in
preparing plans fe of. the Water Pokfoolum
Water Works, as four
appears from Kimberley's desk. no.
1 of 14th April 1873.
On the understanding
6. (I have theres that there was gr
to sanction the t
immediate issue.
other leave fo
absence shizzed
to him of a foreign WM. Phine during
22 of 86240,
from the 24
March last inclusively
on the assumption that he then left the Oolong of I shall on his in athing this
C.Agents to be
uisticted to issue
husservice,
allowance to himm
that femin
it may fall due r
you will have the goodness to send home a front paper of partiachen more acts from pletely, trepared so that his fight ofservice ay be
calculated exactly,
rice a Н
Ml 2013/09
"wait until he mayores.
Downing Street,
31 May 1889.
Gentlemen,
I am directed by the Secretary of State to instruct you to issue on
account of the Colony of Hang Kunden des tight hollen
a Pension at the rate of
may become due, two thousand sighstan Area Kollars 18 Digh
per annum, from the
24th of March last inclusively
M.I.M. Price, late Surveyn
General,
the Dollar.
The Crown Agents
for the Colonies.
Gentlemen,
Your most obedient Servant,
$(34,737a) 3000 7-88
previous Paper.
188/bung
Circular
trong phong
(Subject.)
Sutomies
Is not think
(Minutes.)
259 DESPATCH.
20 APR 39,
Stone futter's Island
Not Edfac Book
W. Ebden
9 Dec. 188% in consequence of Circular Pabout Trespassing in fortifications?
gu. 9.22/4
Mr Johnson
I think not. We have an
ordurance mi
reply to the
cricular 2 of 1888 . I dont understand this. The for- should have & plamed.
M. Ebden
Was not that merely a Sketching
641419/18 - Ord. / passed, before arrival of Circular,
subsequent Paper.
Dec. 1887) and not a Trespan
There has dunderstand been no
previous
Circular.
answer to the latter
The Attorney General
are very fond
& governor of Hongking of brief reports.
Order omitting
reference to previous papers
Mr Meade
S.W.7.26april
(14 Feb.88)
Orduiance 2 of 1888 was passed in consequence circular of 3 Sept. 87 (sheldung At the date of it's passing, further cricular of 29 Dec. 87 (hespaping & ) would sarces have reached Houghong. Thin Cicular
of 7 March 89 was sent to Responsible Government only Colanie, the wo being supposed to have given wistinctions to the G.C.O. at coaling stations It is not clear whether the present ordinance is supplementary to 2 of 1888 andinn consequence
, or whether of circular of 29 Dec 87. it has grown out of instuctions grain by the WO. to G.C.O. in the matter offercular off ullins (Pedmann) of the
Former sway po
and that this Ordinance
may as Hand away
with 2 of 88.
2 of 1888 is being heps for Collective treatment pending the result of the official Pecrets Bill). That Bill has
for 3rd Reading
without amreadment. Debate
is in operation acose on 3
Agent of
3rd Reading and
has been adjourned to 29 apr.
The Bill does not contains the words saggersed
letter to W.O. of 6 June 88. for insertion [W.0.9844/88
But if the
poems ordinance deser
with the matter of cricular 27 Meh 89, perhaps it may he sanctioned atomer
in operation
Mnr 26/4
Enclosure 1.
My Lord,
Government House, APR 39/
Hongkong, 19th March, 1889.
I have the honour le transmit for Her Majesty's gracious
confirmation and allowance the following Ordinance entitled :—
13th March, 1889
With six spare copies)
Enclosure 2.
N.11 of 1889, The Stone
"Eutters' Island Ordinance,
2. The customary Report by the Attorney General is annexed.
10th March, 1889.
The Right Honourable
I have the honour to be,
My Lord, Your Lordship's most obedient
The Lord Hnutoford, GOMG,
Humble Servant,
Enclosure 2.
REPORT BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ON ORDINANCE NO. OF
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, AFR 39/
19th March, 1889.
I have examined the accompanying Ordinance, entitled
"The Stone Cutters Island "Ordinance, 1889,.
and I am of opinion that the Ordinance is one which is not contrary to the
Governor's Instructions.
The Ordinance prohibits any person, except officers or soldiers on military duty or Police officers or Constables, landing on the Island without a permit from
ا احد يسفر العليا لا
Stong Kong
No. 8683
DESPATCH.
the authorities there in specified:
and confers
the necessary powers for enforcing the "due performance thereof.
(signed) & Andrew J. Leach,
Acting Attorney General
8(34,741) 6000 7-88
Noeud 99
previous Paper.
(Subject)
Mr. C. C. Maloch Asst Engineer
Submits his applix for promotion
Malsch my
?130.2 July
W. Wonde
(Minutes.)
He receive $2760 + 285 for
I. Inalach was selected by
the town aquats. And there affairst
be no record besse of his history a
It is possible that if he is
general scheme of
inchended in
increased salaries
which is so in
contemplation, he
be content to
at subsequent Paper.
musin in Hay Kory.
Sir Henry Personly has written tom: Hamilton about him (Liller Alle 137540 Private Seanton. Al. 2015
Thieve just seen Mr. Malach,
says he wishes to leave Hong Kong
account of his health.
25.157 J
M. Price called here today specially to recommend mi. Malsch he thinks most highly of him, that he is fit to be second man in the Public both. defint Anywhere, and to be first C.P.L. 22. Jon
Small colon.
mau in a
lich wirken
will wit be frrogations:
and nothing
WINDSOR CASTLE
April 21 1889
theid S HW.)
Dean In Baullie Hamilton
Malsch in a
Molege of ours. polegé
Can anything be done for humi
Imolytende chuyện anh
5 30 APR 39)
Enclosure!
th March
Government House, Hongkong, 22" March, 1887.
My Lord I have the honour
to transmit the accompanying
"petition addressed to Your Lordship by Mr.C.E. Malsh, Assistant Engineer in the
Right Konourable
The Lord Knutsford, Gemg,
Public Works Department, praying for promotion in another Colony.
6162 Malsch is at
present in receipt of salary
at the rate of $2,400 per
an allowance
of $360 a year for rent. These
the maximum
emolumento attached to his
appointment.
The reasons
which this officer wishes to
leave Hong Kong
are the increase
in cost of living, and the
rise in rents.
point out to Your Lordship,
only one of many, illustrating the urgent necessity for
general inercase
salaries
recommended to your favourable
consideration in my despatch the 21st of Vorember
N:826 of the 21st,
6th Feby. 1889.
I enclose a copy of a
closure & letter from $129. M. Price, the Surveyor General, testifying to Mr Malich's good condust -
and professional ability.
My own feeling
about the case is that it is
: not of the exceptional nature,
which would justify its. treatment apart from the - -general question of increase
in salaries; and though I
should be s
el6r elalsch's services,
no objection to
offer if Your Lordship
could see
your way
provide for him elsewhere.
I have the honour to be,
e 16y Lord, Your Lordship's Most Credient
Toumble Servant
Anderaus
Enclosure 1.
Public Works Department
SO APR 09/
Hong Kong 8th March 1889.
it please your Lordship
that having been connected with the Public Works. Department of this Colony
for past five (5) years as assistant Engineer I would beg your Lordship's indulgence in allowing me to offer myself for appointment in another Colony should opportunity offer.
I would request this favour on
the grounds of increasing expensed in living and house rent in this colony as compared with previous years, latter item. house rent alone having
gone up fifty per cent (50%) in my
& Right Foubl
The Lord Knutsford G. C. M. G.
Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State
for the Colonies
case being
short term opservice, and my
further aggravated by the fact apmex.
wife returning to England in account
ill healths and the consequent loss I
shall experience in family remittances
at an extremely low rate of tocchange.
I would also beg to refer to a communications I have addressed to
His becellency The Governor of this Colony
on the above Enbject and also the favourable
recommendation to
request by Mix Price the Enveyor General.
Trusting that this application
receive your Lordship's favourable
consideration-
I have the honour to be,
Zour Lordships most the dient Servant,
chaspell.
thaloch,
Assistant Enguieet.
Enclosure &
Public Works Department, 26th February, 1887.
have the honour to
the enclosed.
transmit you
letter from Mre.@. Malsch. Assistant Engineer in this Department, applying for increase of salary, or if this cannot be granted, asking that the Governor may pleased to recommend him to the Secretary of State for promotion in some other?
knourable I. Stewart, LED,
Colonial Secretary,
Mr Malsch Finds himself in fact in the unfortunate position of many other enbordinate officers in the public service of Hong Kong, Houghong,
whose limited emolumento
if they suffixed some years ago, seareely enable them now- to meet the increasing demands made upon.
house- rent, an item of expenditure that has gone up so per cent within the last five years. This officer's case is still || further aggravated by the
eirenmstance that Mrs Malsch
compelled to leave
is now e
-this climate, and that he will have to make periodical family
remittance's home
at a ruinous loss in
exchange.
Vince he joined
the Department five years ago, Mr Malsch has been most
painstaking and given great satisfaction in the performance of his duties, and I am glad to have this opportunity to testify to his high professional ability and efficiency and to his great assiduity, and if ! his application for an increase of salary cannot be considered, I would solicit the favourable consideration of Itis & xcellency to his request to be recommended to the Colonial Office for promotion in another Colony.
I have He
(signed) 9. 11. Price,
Surveyor General
En Akeny
C. Malsch En
Constitutimal,
W. Johnsen 29 Jun
. Just 29 June. W. Meade
copy top. 2.7.
Is 1-July 1899
I am directed by
Lord Kuntsford
inform you that he has received through the Sw. of Hongkong zon
memorial of
of March last applying
for promotion to an appointment in another
In the event of
suitable va
Noccurring
will be considered
with those of othe Candidates, butowing
to the scarcity of such
appointments at titre Sec. states.
Lordlife's disposal, his Lordship cannot make
being able
e to meet
any promise Zour wishes.
& 8 (40,047a) 6000 3-89
Governor. No.
Nocus 108
ast previous Paper.
94.3 May
Stong Kong
No. 8692
(Subject.)
DESPATCH.
**2230 APR 09/
Acting Registrar General
Reports appt of m
Mitchell Innes
(Minutes.)
Mr. Brampton
M2 Mitchell Innes"
acting to the Legislative formal acting opporation should be approved confirmed
Next absequent Paper.
By dispata
Ye. M 1/5 K
0730 APR 39/
olby Lord,
Government House,
Wonghong, 26th March, 1887.
With reference to my
hor & despatch N: 66 of the 28?? ultime,
reporting that I had granted Mr Lookhart, Registrar-General,
four months' vacation leave,
Right Honourable
e Lord Knutsford, GOING,
"mon the leave of absence
I have the honour
and eight.
half salary,
to inform Your Lordship that I have appointed MW. M.G. Mitchell- Innes to act as Registrar General,
and to be, while so acting, Official Member of the Legislatur Council of this Colony.
I have, the honour to be,
My. Lord,
Your Lordships Most Obedient
Humble dervant,
Je Dervaux
Hongting
Sir G. des Vankring. Sen
Mr. Xucas
Fairfield 2 May
Mr. Wingfield.
Mr. Bramston.
Mr. Meade.
Sir R. Herbert.
Baron de Worms.
Lord Knutsford.
lus/ 3 AX May 189.
I have the honour to ack:
Treeipt of your deep:
No 10% of the 26th of March and to inform you thek H. Th. s confirmation of the privisional Eff registrar genadel
appoints
M. Mitchell Innes to act
as an trom official
the degrelative council Hi the during
during the absence
of Mr Lockhart
18 (40,041a) 6000 3-89
overnor.
Vout 709
Stong Kong
No. 8693
(Subject.)
276 DESPATCH.
30 APR 99,
ast previous Paper,
app? 92.3
12.3 may
sequent Paper.
Asst. Col Secretary Registrar Genl
Reports appt of
Mr Mitchell
Innes & M F H May respectively
? Confirme
(Minutes.)
PER 30 ARA 09
Government House,
Hongkong, 26" March, 1889.
My Lord,
despatch 2:181
Referring to my
and of July
last, respecting the meant -
appointment of Assistant Colonial
decretary, I have the honour to
Right Honourable
The Lord Knutsford, G.C.MG,
inform Your Lordship that I have appointment, provisionally and subject to Your Lordship's approval, Mr N. G. Mitchell-Innes, Assistant Registrar General, to be Assistant Colonial Secretary, vice Mr. J. H. Stewart Lookhart, promoted; and Mr. F. H. _ May, Passed Cadet, to be Assistant Registrar General, vice Mr Mitchell-Innes.
During Mr Lockharts
absence, Mr Mitchell-Innes
will act as Registrar
Registrar General,
will act as
Assistant Colonial Secretary.
I have the honour to be,
My Lord,
Your Lordship's Most Tradient
Humble Servant,
Hongkong
26th March, 1889.
Governor
Dir GM. Drs Vaux, Keig, Komy, to
The Reght Honourable The Lord Knutsford
MrH.G. Mitchell-Innes as Assistant Colonial Secretary,
JW. Z. H. May, as Assistant Registrar General
Reports appointments of- for apploval.
Sin G. W. des Vmax
8695 HongKong
3 May. 89
Pairfield & Melay
Mr. Wingfield.
Mr. Bramston.
Mr. Meade.
Sir R. Herbert.
Baron de Worms.
Lord Knutsford.
I have the honour to
Ack: the receipt of your
the √264
desk: no. 10g. of
March and to confirm
the appointments of
Mitchell Inner and May
as assistant colonial Secretary and assistant registrar gommal
respectively
R&B (40,041a) 6000 3-89
Governor. No.
Vocut 110
Last previous Paper.
Johnsen inf. 7 Aug
subsequent Paper. Lov
154 35′′
Stong Kong
No. 8694
(Subject.)
DESPATCH.
JO APR 19
Leave to Mr. AB. Johnson Crown'
Solicitor
Sends his appls for 4 mos
vacation 5 mos on
half pay. Stas affrivals
apfilm + proposal that our Stokes shd ad
(Minutes.)
M. Meade
When M. Johnson was
granted leave,
opinion of the Exec. Council quoted (eee 7438/05) to the Effect his apponitiment
not reusimable, he did not come under the Col. Rules & Regus as regards leave (or anything
the point
repl to 7438/25
was Jassed over, but I do
not think we admit the principle
W. Johnson's generally.
post is on the fixed establishment
the is merely not pensionable becaus
he is allowed private practice.
I cannot see that that is for allowing him indefinite Prürleges.
? Say that the Sac. of State will not interfere with the present grant leave, at the last as
a previous
occasion the suggestio
that I Johnsen
was outside the
scope of the ordinary Leave Regus
was Jassed
over in silence; bit
point out that the fact of
unfixed estab
bench holder being allowed private practice.
office beenth holder.
pensionable
rearms of
cannot be admitted as
claim to exemption from
the ordinary Girl Service Rules as regards leave a other matters; &
u Leave Certifling
total amoun
to the Teenie of
M. Johnn
sent home showing of leave hitherto injized by so that the application hereafter
extension of leave, such
be considered with
application may a full knowledge of
& further ask (seeing that in 1885-6
W. Johum drew no
circumstances;
The hard draw
in England)
If the 4/arm
ich we say he would ha
to whom hire alary was then & is now to be out the bead
haid, observing (as in desp on 5753pp) that if it is paid to his locum tene
As to this Lee also har. 27 125.288 my minute therei
this should have been stated in the
desp to the leave being really leave withimit salarz
574.5=49
A. 13. Johnson Ey
Mar 30 APR 30)
My Lord,
velosure to transmit
Government House,
Hongkong 27th March, 1887.
I have the honour
application from
Mr Johnson, Crown Colicitor, for
four months' vacation leave from the 28th instant, and five months
6. Right Honourable
The Lord Anutsford, Gem.G.,
leave on
half salary.
The Executive Council,
to whom I referred this
application, advised that.
inasmuch as
under which the ordinary rules and
regulations in respect of leave are
"not strictly applied to the Brown
Jolicitor.
according to a
resent decision of the Right Honourable, the Learetary of -
State for the Colonies, officers
entitled to private practice-
are not, under ordinary "circumstances, entitled to. pension, there is no reason for departure from the "practice already established,
I have accordingly
approved of Mr Johnson's application, and of his proposal that his - partner, M. AP Stokes, should,
:former occasion, act as
his locum tenens.
I have the honour to be,
My Port,
Your Lordship's Most Cordient
Humble Jervani,
Enclosure
07:30 AM 90/
frown Solicitor to Stone : Colonial Secretary.
Stong kong,
2th March 1889.
I have the honour to
apply for four.
moltes vacations
leave from the 28th instant,
por moulter futher leave from the expiry of
Vacations leave.
Should the Governor
grant my request,
suggest that
my partner M. A
J. Stokes, who
was Actiong
Crown Solicitor pour March
1885 to deme 1886, should
appointed as
substitute.
M. Stokes
he Storable,
Frederick Stewart, had,
flonial Searetary
ready to act, should this Excellency appoint him.
A. B. Johnson,
Canon Solicitor.
Sin S. Des Voeux
18. Johnson to May
(Mr. Fanfiel
Mr. Wingfield.
Mr. Bramston.
Mr. Meade.
Sir R. Herbert.
Baron de Worms.
Lord Knutsford.
fu for Akey 8694
6 Mas 89
I have the homon:
to ack: the rec
Zun desp th us. 110 of
the 27th of March, reporting the grant of four months vacation
leave & five
enculler.
leave with half salarz
to W. A. B. Johnom,
frown Solicitor
2. I will not & interfere
this grant leave being granted
the present occasion, without regard to
the ordinary leave
regulations,
masmuchas
the suggesting made
in zin predecessors
desp. no. 129/19
March 1885 that M.
Johnson's
did not come
the general rules
of the Civil Service
was at that time
allow the case
Staty without remark. I cannot however
taken as a precedent,
& I must point out
that the fact of
office being
fixed establishment
being not pensionable by reason of the holder being allowed private practice cannothe admitted argiving!
the holder any claim
to Exemption from
the somary Cirit Colonial Rules & Regulations as regard leave of absence
other matters.
4. I request smat
Zur Earl
to forward
convsnisuce
usual Leave Certif.
Showing the lengthy
serviced total amount
of leave hitherto Enjoyed by W John, so that, if he should hereafter apply for an extension of his leave, I may be in a position to consider his application.
5. Spice that when
M. Johnsen
leave in 1885-6, he
appears not to have
salarzing
Mr. Wingfield.
Mr. Bramston.
Mr. Meade.
Sir R. Herbert.
Baron de Worms.
Lord Knutsford.
in this country?.5" g
shall be glad to know to whom his salary
then paid, I to
whom it will be faid
the present occasion;
and if it is to be paid to his locum tenens,
I have to point out
that this should have
been stated in Jun desp, the leave
described as
leave without salarz
8 (10,041a) 6000 3-89
overnor.
Stong Kong
No. 8695-
(Subject.)
Lunatie Kennelly
ast previous Paper,
Sailing $250.
Agentsing.
288 DESPATCH.
30 ATR 39/
Will be sent to Londow in
an attendant in Ocean II "Nestors'
on 3/4 inst. Cost of passages will be
(Minutes.)
W Wingfield
I have ascertained from
C.Agents that the "Nestor
be expected
inn Lunden about the
As to par. 3 there for.
does not
return passage has
been taken for the attendant, Jeupfore not, as #250 in a small Sunn (the ordinary single 2 ticket is £35,
nd Class
Isubmit draft to 7.0.
S.W.9.2 May
t subsequent Paper.
730 APR 39,
No: 111...
My Ford,
Government House
Hong Kong 27th March 1889
I have the honour to
acknowledge the receipt of
Your Lordship's despatch #236 of the 20th of December, Enclosing a letter from the Foreign Office
the subject of sending the
Right Honourable
The Lord Kreat-ford, G. C. M. Gy,
викрадену
lunatic Kennelly to England.
2. Satisfactory arrangemento
tranomission
-made for his
to London in
charge of an attendant, (a. condition impared by the Agents
of the Company. ) in the Decan
Steamship Company's 5. S. Mestor, "
which will sail from this port
on the 31st instant.
The cost of the two passages will be Two hundred and fifty
dollars.
4. I have to add, for the
information
information of the Poor Law Authorities, that Kennelly's wife
with Dr. Folkhard
in the London Road, Southwark,
I have the honour to be,
My Lord,
Your Lordship's most obedient Aumble servant,
The Under J. ft.
Lumediat
Mr. Johnnn 2 May
Fanfield 2 May
Mr. Wingfield. 2
Mr. Bramston.
Mr. Meade.
Sir R. Herbert.
Baron de Worms.
Lord Knutsford.
27 March 1889
inf. Des Voeux.
for. & agentimas
written to when
7.0, replies).
for Aking 8695
2nd May 89
With referemet
the letter from
Dept. J.
the 16 that?&
to previous corresponden
to sending
lunatic,
9. 7. Kennethy
From Hangkang England, I am directe
by Law Kuntsford to transunit tzgen
to be laid befo
Marquis of Salisbung copy of a desp" from
the frv. of Haughing,
reporting that Kennelly
was being
England in the chaye
attendant
the J.S. "Nester,
which his Lordsliche understand is Expected to reach
London about then
22 mistant.
2. Lord Kuntsfand presumes that Lord Salisbury will
cause the n
necessary
Communications to
be made to the Poor
Law Authorities "to
receiving Kennelly an
his arrival. 292
I am to request
that the Equivalent
18250, being the
the passages
of Kennelly & his attendant, was
refunded to the frown Agents for the folines,
at the Treasury of Exchange, namely
3/ the Dollar; Iam to add that
further payment
will probably be
have to be made.
for the cost of retum passage oft
the attendant to
the Jolan
B & S (40,041a) 6000 3-89
Governor. No.
Destoux 112
1889 March
зааре 30 ape
Last previous Paper.
trong trong
(Subject.)
293 DESPATCH.
PEG 4 MAY 39
Refort on Education for 1858.
Forwards
(Minutes.)
102.15 May
xt subsequent Paper.
Mr Bramston
The number of children not under instuction has fallen
(2/26) Fo (29/86,
from 11.367 in 1885, (
8,402 in 1888:
but the total number
o children is mere Estimated, & the number under instuction
has only gone up from 7.633 to alany 8.717 in the 4 years.
less than half the children
of school age are at school.
If has occurred to me that in Colonies such as this, where compulsion is impossible at present, it would be a good thing to have an "attendance officer, whose business it should
be to ascertain where children exist, and are not as school, and serve notices upon, or pay visits to the parents, to try to induce them to send then childen Say that with refer to to school. In fact, the whole
in de fancif "visitor" system compulsory school board "visitor" system might be used, minus only the final stage of police comt
possibility of
Which was
Zaised in 82
an attanden.
There is, at present, no machinery for getting the schools filled. The schoolmaste se 80872/6 is, of course, busy inside, & the Gort schools do not even advertise!
Possibly we
could send up the enrolment To percent, if a "visitor" were employed.
In Wonghong
I presume he should be a Chinese in west Africa, a hegio.
Tu not given
ffice might best be fried frants-in-aid C.PL schools Carried on lik new
in which
The great drawback in Hongkong is the absence of wide female Education, and apparently only 1 in 5 of the girls are at school. D. Eitel hash will suggests a Gort Girls school, but be taught.
the Public Works Dept gril schools for the Gors says the Public Works dépo has no time to build one as present. teaching Chinell
there die
Only CPE
MINUTE PAPER.
As the school will probably have a very
small attendance as first, it might be suggested mat premises could perhaps be hired to begin with.
Sanofachon should be expressed as the satisfactory soults as the Gor. Central School.
I cannot ascertain why so many as 107. win 1989 schools, still stand aloof from the Gort inspection to private & grants in aid, and it
Umslumant"
and I think seems desirable to ask that is the
why there are not willing explanation;
to participate in those Wat lave macay as well adk adrantages, & whether they about it
Cannot be induced to do C.P.I
her. Sxaph
Write in the above
Sw. 1915
As tanlash sense
Anna: which
na huzar's
minute Ex
879.5, 89
besins $57. You boh Irxfect the bulk of theer 84 02. live in humbon breets
I similar floating a moveall homes Jy 1075 K 115
Dear Johnoon,
Hongking 8/4/89.
Enclosure No. 2.
(Report of bead Master of the Central School) in despatch No : 112 was
omitted. Jam
it on by this mail, &
with you Kindly here
it attached to the
the world suns
despatch to which it sort of place than it did a little time ago.
belongs.
You will be glad to
hear that the historical
legis getting fairly,
bantly got promotine,
are aware.
Ymer concerely
RECE 4 MAY 89,
My Lord,
Government House,
30th March,
Kongkong
I have the honour
to transmit, for Your Lordship's
information, the Annual – Education for the
Enclosure. 11th February 1889 With six Spare Copies)
Year 1888.
he Right Honourable The Lord Knutsford, Gemg,
The Report of the
of Inspector of Schools bears
-testimony to very satisfactory
progress,
but in the matter.
of female education it is _
still slow, and I.
the opinion expressed by Exitel in the 10th paragraph, that an effort should be made by Government to stimulate the education of. girls by the establishment of -Girls School, which would place an elementary English
education
education, and optional instruction
in Chinese, within the reach
of all classes.
This is a subject.
which, together with other_
-minor points adverted to Dr Eitel, shall receive
attention. I fear however that the creation of a building should prove to be required, it will be impracticable to
undertake it in the immediate
future, there being more - urgently required works,
sufficient
| sufficient to fully occupy
the Surveyor General's Department
some time to come.
The account given- by Mr. Wright of the work __
done in the Central School
is also very encouraging. Pregret that
couraging, but
- unavoidable delay in building operations the transfer to the new
Victoria College
effected.
yet been.
I have the honour to be,
My Lord, Coedient
Your Lordship's Most Batient Thumble servant,
Yeldaveux предим
God/9062 Hong Kong
ongkong no 102
Совет сло. Не носих
Mr. Webb 13 may
ismauling
Thave the honor
tarifuld 13p hing to act the receipt
Mr. Wingfield.
Mr. Bramston.
Mr. Meade.
Sir R. Herbert.
Baron de Worms.
Lord Knutsford.
f yoin desp. ko. 112
of the 30rull, дете Hansmiling the report of the
Schools for Hongkong for
Ausd 19.295
For Conson
I am glad
to see that the
number of children under instuction
increased from
8569 in 1887
дугу й 1888, вос
under inspection
rising from 5974
to 6258.
I observe
however that the
Ейне чедан ко
increase as
falling a short дже
in population,
бо тал і сам
hardly be said
that there has been
During ни раск
чела алу
diminution
рассинде про
Children not
receiving any
school inshuchon,
much in Dr Eitel's
нрол толг satisfactory,
Especially the
by the Government Central School,
for which the
Headmaster and
his assistants
весенне счетов
of the fo
4. Me gratifying
success of
school leads me
view with favour.
proposal that
a Gort Girls
School, for book English and Chinese
Tuition, should be
Established, and
I am glad to see
that you p
appreciate
mis suggestion.
If it should
the press of other works shouts
prevent the erection
Mr. Wingfield.
Mr. Bramston,
Mr. Meade.
Sir R. Herbert.
Baron de Worms.
Lord Knutsford.
a new building
for this purpose
Early date, it
may be expedient to
temporarily hire suitable
premises in which to open
the school, as
The munder of
pupils will
probably not al
frist be very
large, and it is
desirable
Tas the foundation
of the school should
not be delayed.
5. I am aware
of the peas difficulty of obtaining the
assendance al
school of
диво, анто
presume that,
boys, legal
Compulsion, as
видеовед ін
Адрес Ене прыл
for 1882, would
See Sin G. Bowen's
дер. по 15 бр
даре 1883
still be inexpedient.
It is, howeve
more man half
Total number of
of the children & Hongtong should
still be without
алу прива Education, and
тал по дель diminution of
mis propochon ѝ вейну адреснеда
Even dealing. with boys alone,
товане так
school at all..
6. It has occurred
in default to me that, shot
of compulsion,
some useful
Effect might be
produced by the
Employment of
weitement of
a regular "school
"assendance officer, "atter
who should,
presume, be a
Chinese.
an office might
Mr. Wingfield.
Mr. Bramston.
Mr. Meade.
Sir R. Herbert.
Baron de Worms.
Lord Knutsford.
make it his 393
business to
ascertain where
there were children
hol al school,
#raining his
informahon
from all
available sources,
He might then
call upon
parents or guardian,
of the children, and дже Endeavour to
persuade them
to send their children to school, repeating his visits where
necessary, supplying me
parents with
particulars of the
hearest schools.
His services
might also be
useful in
promoting repsilan
asendance among the children already
on the school rolls.
should be glad f I request
Kist you wil
consider whether
in this or some
other way the
To to be careful not in any way to interfere work the working of the private or aided Schoolst
School allerdance
might not be pr
stimulated
I need hardly
observe that the
School allendance
office should be
instructad
observe the
strictedl
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PEC 4 MAY 89,
Government House,
Hongkong, 30th March, 1889.
My Lord,
I have the honour to report
that I have appointed,
appointed, provisionally
and subject to Your Lordship's approval
Mr Fr. A. Cordeiro, third Clerk in the
The Right Honourable
Exports Office, to be second
The Lord Knutsford, GamG.
cleak, with a salary of $120 per ann
vice . Mr EB. Shepherd, resigned.
I have appointed Mr A.
• 4. da Costa, Temporary Clerk is
Solonial Secretary' Office, to encrced ~
Mr Cordeiro
as third Clerk.
I have the honour to be,
Your Lordship's Most Obedient,
Theuble Sawant,
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307 DESPATCH.
REGE 4 MAY 29,
Reflies & bercular 18 Sept vel to
proposed alteration in
In ons to Su @Ryan 26 Aug189 punt
? 189.4 October
To Audit off
Jan190 an
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Ww. Incade
noted With on Juning
See also good. Then losge
ducattivoitais
this question.
Measurabl
In my opinion
great distance of Hong Kong firem
England is homme audit.
fatal objection to
I do not think them
to be derived from the advantage the derived
visit of an
What if he
were an and it office man
with the intention of Recommending What we
tant in Hong Kong is the
permanent affonituent of
trained auditor instead t
Colonial Secretary.
Mr Meade
now written a
24. may stuny
thave been unable properly to consider this before. I have separate minute, annexed, selling forth what appears to me the right answer to this plea for "reversion". the principles & Audit. It
is unnecessary
to send out
an expert: and I would propose to send this desparel
+ my minute privately to
Si Ryan, before turning it
draft for conson?
weept that I fear the account?
will not be closed for a Honda longer time.
then at prosent 24. 176
3 $42.1889
canthi talk
W. Miade is too
conforme to
double him excipt on
Whinita Graints requiring recision I herefore unit
Lowal Funds han a sum
to you to ask you to
$100 a pan and adorn good as to let me know inficient local îndit
owounce for what how the matter stanch Docty and Accounts thes in regard to Angling for hill. I think agric
Andi't about which you
write to mi an August. thomish at of the Winiel I find fore inguinightinue the monkbuiss
ndit in this Doft is t at the Admiralty that
come in the chiapin
29 Aug. 85
it can ti domitive- and Dean Mi Wett Dooner the better.
And the bar and detent The Hanging off altogethon!
Andi't Sapins han
Jumsamang Siachio mi nim
10 at the botto
of Scotland. Thing
important to make the
fatunately frasing feads of Dupt: fact than no difficulties from the spiritility for
for the Audit print of view commage of thin hccont and I am glad to kathich is enting_destryosh
agree entisch in Jom Man and its
"proposals.
y any system of pre audit
Twill look into thi
mustion of the Army? It seems to me many wependiture at
Angekongwendet tack to Offici, and wit lisurve what I have to sa
as to fuvrable expendita until I can consult Thallet. but you figu
mi to misafe in
Hong Kong
Mr Meade
The Governois objection
are very
larely based upon his preference for "pre audit, and it is this feeling. which gives point to his objection
to the delay in examining vouchers. It is important that he should be put right on this point, Expe and it should be very
clearly laid down that the Heads of Departments cannot be relieved of the responsibilit
of seeing that all accounts for their respective departments are correct, before passing them on
No reliance must for payment.
be placed on the Auditor in this respect : "overcharges" and
"inaccuracies" must be detected
before payment, as the peril of the Head of Department concerned.
But there will be no objection to Heads of Departments seeking, before payment, the covering authority of the Cal. Secretary, or (through him) If the Governor, in any cases
in which they feel doubt, and it
seems to me that this safeguard is all that a Head of Department can expect.
The Treasurer is then responsible for paying only upon duly certified vouchers, and for proper classification of the itemo according to the Appropriation orde
he can obtain the
again, covering authority of the Err=
on any point of doubt. The rouchers (which now go to the ColSecretan's Audit Branch) could henceforth so straight off to Somerset House, Either direct, or through the local auditor,
Si Ryan may think best.
The delay
mee months in the receipt of queries (as compared with me delay of
weeks or mouths
now) will not be a serions
difficulty.
Audit queries
more matters of principle
Mas actual errors in payment.
and we ought not to encourage
the notion that it is
important part of Audit function
to detect such obvious errois
overcharges and inaccur-
•acies" in payments
it is the business of the Heads of Departments to prevent. If mey exist, the Audit reveals them, but they ought not to exist more than very
exceptionally.
The Honghong and it is now done by I clerks, costing in all, $5400, (wich
a messenger
& coolie printer), under the ColSec". & Asst Collec". local auditor would not need more than $3000, as most, with one click at $1320. Me balance would cover
passages, and leave something to be set off against the cool of the
Somerset House audit, which, for an expenditure of
I place roughly
at £500.
The latter figure may be taken to be the outside estimate of the increased expense to Hongkong of the new arrangement, against which is to be set the saving of the ColSecretary's time, and possibly, hereafter, some contribution the W.0. Adm2 and it there, should this be combined.
in reopees
314 9064
PECC 4 MAY 89,
No. 114.
Government House,
HongHong
30th March, 1889
My Lord,
I have the honour
It is true that the Col see? thas the staff of for and it cleiks could not possibly be reduced, but on
his own statement of their work, one would be superseded by the local Auditor tone by Somerset House:
& I do not feel any doubt that,
relieved
of the examination of rouchers, local auditor & one check. would get through it all.
It would be well, therefore,
to tell the God?
d new arrangement will be tried, & that he should
pus the necessary items in the 1890 Estimates,
Sio 13/6
to acknowledge the receipt of Your Lordship's Circular Despater
the 18th September last, in
Right Honourable
The Right
attention is invited
The Lord Anuto ford, Gem.G,
to the arrangements at present
forse for the Audit
Accounts of the Colony under
administration.
subject has
ccupying my
attention
for some time, but the difficulties with which it is
biset, and perhaps also want of the nese
Technical
knowledge of the subject, have
prevented me from arriving
any very definite conclusion.
informed -
to 1870, up
Imperial Audit of HongKong - Accounts . For some time -previously, the necessity of a change had been occupying the attention of both the Imperial and the Local Authorities; and, after a full discussion of the question,.
principally directed to the
system which was to be adopted here, the! Carl of Kimberley
of Kimberley intimated to the Governor the final
determination
determination of the Colonial Office to substitute a Local for an Imperial Audit.
Since that time,
the various Treasury Instructions
which have been issued, have
formed the basis on which
the local audit administration has been carried on. Various
changes and
and impr
improvemente
have been made, and, so-
can ascertain there
has occurred nothing, which furnishes
any strong
strong ground, for urging upon The Legislative Council the expediency of a change. I am not insensible to the cogent arguments of the Comptroller and Auditor General, in favour of
audit which is independent the Local Excentive, and
it were made clear to
me that this object could only be attained
proposed method, I should have less difficulty
advocating
advocating its adoption. I am, however, informed that the
Imperial audit, as
formerly
conducted was attended here
with disadvantages similar to those which I have myself
noticed in other Colonies.
Queries regarding accounts
after the
were sent out
the lapse
of periods varying from. " many months to as much
when changes
Offices made explanation
and correction by
no means
and much time and
correspondence
frequently
expended,
over very
minute details, than with
regard to important matters of system and principle. The
clerical labour involved, and
printing and required,
stationery -
often much
greater than the results justified, inasmuch as the "irregularities that were
discovered could have been
checked more
readily, and
more advantageously, spot.
Though speaking
the subject with much
diffidence, I may say
one consideration which
weighs with me is the - disadvantage which attends any post-audit. Previously to 1984, the system of pre-audit prevailed here, under which
paid until
money accounts had been passed. At that time, Sir William-
Marsh bring Auditor, considerations
pressed upon the Government, principally
connection with the Public Works Department, which resulted in a return to the system of post-audit; but I am not satisfied that the change has been beneficial. Indeed, before Your Lordship's Despatch had reached me, I had under my consideration the necessity of reverting to the pre-audit principle. No
doubt, under the present. system the Head of a Department is responsible for oversharges, and, in _ most cases, these are so trifling that no
in adjustment
difficulty-
can arise;
but in such departments as the Surveyor General's and
the Supreme Court, where
very large
of money
are dealt with, it is obvious
that overcharges and
inaccuracies might prove
serious. And
so on the
consequences
would be much more serious,
months clapsed,
before the accounts could be
finally adjusted.
I annexe to this
march patch a Report on the
Enclosure
subject by Mr. Stewart, Colonial Secretary and Auditor General,
who is of opinion that, on the whole, the local system,
especially if changed to a -pre-a
-audit, would be
serviceable
serviceable, and more economical than an Imperial
Whether his views
are correct or not, I.
soareely in a
position to form a judgment. For I
have no means
of estimating
either the actual cost
proposed change, probability of its being free from the objections which attended a similar system in the past. And I am
Moreover
moreover without information on another most important
viz as to the extent to which the evident à priori
objections to the present system, have in its practical. working proved to be valid..
In order, therefore,
that I may
obtain more.
I should
points, glad if Your Lordship
very glad
could see you
your way to -
adopt the following proposald
That a trained Auditor should
be sent out here, with instructions that after making a full examination into the Colonial Accounts,
and the present system of auditing them, he should report to me as to the
expediency, or otherwise, of the proposed change, suggested by the actual frots
which have come under his
observation.
expense of
such a visit would, of course,
be borne by the Colony; and the
money would, I think, be well spent,
if it produced
merely satisfaction in the minds of all concerned, as to the absense
excessive
evil in the actual working -
of a system, which is, doubt, theoretically
imperfect.
Such a visit, -
moreover, would serve to.
up another point which I am at present in
doubt, viz. whether it would not be possible to obtain all the advantages of an Imperial Audit, without its disadvantages, by the periodical visits of a similar officer, who would be responsible only to Your Lordship
or to the Imperial Audit Department, and be :entirely independent of the Local Executive, (except perhaps as regards the duty of furnishing it with copies of his reports ) . A system similar to that_
suggested
suggested is in
force in connection with several of- the Local Banking Institutions,
and I do not see at the moment any strong. - why it should not be adopted by the Government. As – compared with Audit_ in England, it would
certainly save much time, and I should think much
also, especially
if the services of
were shared by:
several Colonies.
I have, the honour to be,
My Lord,
Your Lordship's Most Obedient
Humble Servant,
Geillieenden Vaux