"Rough boulder Stone to be thrown in all along the line
of required wall and brought= to a leach surface 2 feet below Low Water springs width on surface to be & feet, and interstice. filled up with shawls as for possible
"Above the boulder foundation
will be laich 2 courses rough sflit granite footing, stories to be 14" x 14" and not less than 6 feet in length, book courses laid headers, and joints laid as close as possible.
"Above the fooling the walk is to be correct up of ashlar masonry set in mortar and bonded
shewn in the drawings, the lowest course of the wall is to be heavers and stretchers alternately, and to be 6 feet in width_breader to be through to stretcher to exceed 4 feet in length
"All the stone used in the Wall is to measure 12" × 12" and
to be roughly squared on all
quite square
sides. Beds to be lay without spawls; all joints on face to be well wrought winches back from the face and painted in och putty to a depth of 5 inches No stones of this shake: will be allowed to be brought on to the ground.
Each Stone to be well bedded
in mortar and settled in its
filace by blows from a heavy wooden
The face stretchers to be backed with 12" X 12" rough squared stone - joints filled with chippings and mortar and each course to be flushed level before a succeeding
one is commenced.
The gut Course to be all headers. The 3rd Course to be beaders
and stretchers alternately.
Face of Wall to batter & inches
foot and be finely Coolish outside perpendicules on the inside_ this batter is to be ent on the face
of stone.
Concrete of 2 Line 2 decomposed granite and's stone chifing is to be well mixer. off the work, and fut in 3 feet wide behind the
footing, to proceed layer by layer
the wall rises, and to
2 feet width at the top..
"The Wall to be cofed with
"tones 16 inches deep, projecting semicircularly Pinches.
"The Tones to have square bed
and close joints on each side, finely top and front.
سایت استان کر
"Coping stones to be dove-tailed
shewn on flam.
one another as shewn on
"The inner side of copping have a semicircular channel
cut out in it and out lets mate
in every other stone the channels to be 12 inches wide the out let Cinches.
Cofing & Parafil wall is to be constructed, in
Eiginal single stones 18" square upper arriva Chamferred and each stone 5 feet,
" in length _ the stones dovetailed into one and another as shewn in flow be kept in their places by
4' by 1 iron firms dovetailed Linches into coping stones and run with leas, and filling into mortices corresponding in the under side of Parapet 3 of these fins to each harapet store.
"The filling in is to be commenced immediately the boulder stone
foundation is comfleted and to
be continued there as the wall
rises and to extend to so feet width behind.
Where directish the Contractor
is to provide for the constructions
of certain drains to has through
the sea Wall
Chue Extinal
Gardins, Artur. Colonial Secretin
Kowloon Sex Wall Extract from Contract
for the Construction
Plan of Seat Vall
enclosed
Inclosure && in Governo
18 Sir Richard Graves Machomi Despatch 1.503 of 27 May,
19. Yongng
Treasury
Comeon / 3 Aug 1568 28 Anny/65-
20 Lift /68 Sr
Ancee? No. 174-17 bet 1868.
Covernment house,
bronstory, 27th
May, 1858.
My Lash Juke
12505 my despatch A 505
of even date herewith, I had the honor to transmit Extract of Minutes of an Executive Council held on the 5d durtant, at which two resolutions were hissed of
bis brace
The Duke of Stuckingham and Chander,
Her Majestyp Princifal Secretary of State,
which the first recommended the division temporarily of the Surveyor General's departiment into two
one under Mr. Wilson,
Branches,
the Surveyor General, and the
other under Mr. Clark, the present Asistant Surveyor General
The proceedings of Council
transmitted in
Deshatch
10500 fully explain the impossibility of dispensing with the services of either Mr Walson 8 Ms Clark at this moment. and the impossibility of retaining We Clark, unless his functions and responsibilities were wholly separated from the supervision
and control of W. Wilson. 3. In a Memorandum of the 7th Instant, I informed the Surveyin General of the resolution of Council, and after conferring with the Auditor General mid W.Wilson,
former drew of the proposed outline of a division of the works hand between heps Wilson and Clark, and I have offroved of that arrangement.
There is no expense involves beyond a small monthly sum of $20 to chair hire to Mr Kydd, transferred from Pokhulum to superintenst the refairs of the Prayan Wall, a
work at which he is specially qualified to assist.
Under the special circumstances of the case, I have to solicit your Gracis afferoval of this temporary arrangement.
I have the hour to be, My Lord Duke Your Grace's most obediens
Fumble Servant
aland Seaver Mandrell
Governor.
Bi F. Rep
Then has oference l
Ms Wilson
the Suncyer Ceneral
H. H. the papers
Eilation Li-wheel
I have already
formal Unermendelin Ital
W. Wilon
der Rack Si Arling
Sanger for. Should have distinct
sufarale du lies apequed It with spurt
Grmation
of it is adopted as it entails
chage of
to heap with recommendatan
bongkong. 18504. 27th May, 1865.. Governa
Tir Richard Graves Mactonnell, C. 3.
bis Bruce
The Duke of Buckingham and chands.
Survey Department- Separation of temporarily, into two branches under Ms Wilson, and Mr Clark, respectively-
Reasons for and details
Inclosure.)
Hon skong
temary to the
7794 for 507
Treasury Anteil d
Adderley
2.9143 Any 20/68.
13. August 1868.
Lam directed by
the Duke of Buckingham
thands to recon mund
forthe sanction of the
Comad" of the
LaB Treasury
an Expense
off $20 a month for
Chain here to Me
Hydd. who inthe Employment of the Govt attonellong.
& some Going
in the Surveyor facts
of departmenta
alterations &
Atstore it has been
found muscaryto
transfer
from the Pok futur
Waterworks to the
Proposel division of Prities in Surveyor General's Department showing Balance
Rap: &. Est.
available under each Service on Jot
Surveyor General.
Not May 1868.
Acting Assistant Surveyor General. 3 of 1868 Attirations and Additions to Patice Stations 7828 19 1251 of 1867 Repairs to Government. Hands 19. 1868 Overseer's and Watchman's House at Tolefulun 1. 1867 Reservoir at Pokfulum.
4. 1868 One bright #1 Engine Pump and Mortar Mil so
Maintenance of Public Gardens -
Superintendene of the Oraya Wall
at which be in
Specially qualified
& accist.
Maintenance
of Water Works.
Florenting Pres.
Crection of Fountain To at Public Gardens -
Col. Est. for 1868 & Miscellanous Works.
11. 1863 Road and Street Contingencies.
Repairs to Roads out of Victoria_
5 of 1865 Repairs to Building s
2000. 40.000 bu 518,
Good $31 1447358 5 25,
960 92 15 284
کی کوئی رہنے کے کتر
Construction of Sea Wall Fo on Bonliam Strand 20,000
Repours to Streets in Victoriou
Repairs to Traya Wall
Repairs to Bridores.
Repairs to Praya & Sose Hall West of Beddar's Wharf 2-4-614.14
Surface Drains in Victoria_
Repoirs to Province in Vistoria-
Arpoirs to Gernforce Drains in Victoria
Col. Est: for 1862 Miscellaneous Services -
2,053 43
1919 yo 748694
Quarters for Inspecter 65 B. atimen, Harbor Mrs Pep. 8500 Re-eraction of Monnten Lodge, thotomia Teak_ 8.500 Alterations and Additions to livil and Lock Hospitals 2,000 Loitrines of Fever aer & Loob Hospitals_
(True Copy)
Cedonial Sevitary
Mema: by the Honorable W. He. Rennie, Auditor General.
The division of labour
proposed seems suitable except that
it will be more convenient that Mr Wilson and M. Clark should
each have his
Clerk of the Works
It has therefore been.
that Mr Hydd, the Cr
Everseer of the
Reservoir at Pokfulum who has
but little employment there at present- shalt act during the temporary division of the duties
of the Office as Clerk of Werks to Mr Wilson, and thus leave.
· Mr Prestage entirely under control of Mr Clark – Mr Prestage will during the remainder of the week wind up his connection with the works under Mr Wilson's control.
and Mer Kydd will,
duty on Monday.
commence
Mrr Clark accedes to these
-arrangements. It will however
be necessary to give
allowance
of about off 20 a month to Mr Hydd for Chair hire in coming from Tokferlum and on the works. The Supervision of Mr Hyde... over the repairs to the Prays Wall
valuable.
of the Oversurs
proposed to be given to Mr. Clark will not be required by him and should therefore go
over to the Reservoir to see that the Laborers
occupied at the Earthworks going
on there
kept employed _
(Signed) W. H. Rennie,
Auditor General .
12th May, 1868.
(Frus Copy)
Colonial Secretary
Suvemyar General's Pepartment Groposeds division of Cubier
in with A Nemor
lemor by
Auditor General. —
Enclosure in Governor Bir Richard Graves Mr. Bonnell's Despatch N. 504 of 27th
Mary, 1868.
Ancee? No. 129-8 Aug 1868
Agents instructed /1......
7795 hung ting 55
Government House;
Hong Kong, 20% May, 1868..
My Lord Bruke
given my most serious time to your
Consideration An
brace's Despatch & 47 relative to the discipline and management of the 11451/ofcolonial base, and if I have not
His brace
to offer, or to adopt -
The Duke of Buckingham and Chande,
Her Majesty' Principal Secretary of State;
suggestions for
any mansus regulations Monst it is because I have towns impelf recommended hitherto conducting what must be an
as a matter of celf defence,
and quite puts in the back ground
the moral reformation of the Kriminal.
In the case of the hurofeam
regarded as an experimental cuplend thomass on a
Large scale, bence a arve
Buy perta
in the face of very grave responsibiliting of
desolving on me, I am extremeh !
diffident as to the
any novel measures.
I can never
experiency of
too strongly
the singular position of this Colony
in reference to the Criminal
fofulation of the neighboring Chinese
Provinces- a position which here renders the penal efficiency of Parely Gaol discipline, and its deterrence
effects the primary consideration of the):
prisoners they do not as a belong to what is known as the Criminal Clap in Englandha
are rather casual offenders, and the majority of them are Sailors. They
are treated as a
Egeneral rule with far greater than frisoners in
indulgence
Thngland and are more trusted,
they do not enjoy
facilities for escape, and are not exposed to similar templation
leaving Gaol to renew
acquaintance with a degraded class of abreintes confirmed in Grime as their chic pursuit, because such class does not existi here.
I may say, therefore that I am not met by any difficulty in that direction, whereas the
difficulties in managing Chinese Prisoners are extreme._ Your Ernce with understand that I mean thereby the difficulties connected with instituting such
system of discipline and
as without actual inhumanity the
a deterrent effect
Severities
(Surindes,
the thousands in the vicinity he th
suicides of Chinese are not of
the same significa
industrian
sincidas blive some ebony
by the Cash
eviposit
of the Base, who are quite ready to run the risk of becoming inmates of it, if there be the least relaxation in the disagreeable feral character
of its discipline.
5. The Meanliness and good ventilation of the base combined with the sufficiency of wholesome food neceḥarily allowed to the frisoners - in all which particulars Civilized Government can
shange, render it an
abode so superior and so
beyond any usual habitation of
the Chinese confined there, that
nothing but a
severely penal
discipline can prevent the
Colony from being swamped by the work dak of offenders from the Criminal population of the neighboring provinces.
5. Make on the rows and
elsewhere in carried on by the
sufficiently
Convicts is now severe for most furfores, bit mmary still forfling make
their bodies and leys for the furfore of being kept in the Gail where they merely fick
joses on
oakum or are
engaged in light
work, and it is very difficult to prevent their doing so, erfecially, as when they work out of doom they have the excuse of their
fetters creating the sores.-
To meet this difficulty, I
certainly am and have been for sometime of opinion that there should be in the have itself, means of employing such matingerer
in some most inkrone and
disagreeable work of a brictly feral character. Juside the Gare there would be no necessity for their wearing fetters of any discription, and the moment a prisoner chewed the least symptom of ulcers created either by accident of
design he should at once find himself transferred from out door work to labor
still more irksome inside the Gave.
8. I see therefore every advantage in using the Crank and shot drill, for much purposes, I do not at present recommend the Treadmill, because the chrivere appear generally to be extremely weak about the Coins and spleen, and there would be risk of some accident resulting, unless such labor was regulated
some medical resident Officer. I have recently visited
the Gaol several times, and
I directed the Colonial Surgeon and the Superintendent of the
book to report to me on the feasibility
of instituting such labor combineit Jike, with boletor confinement is the
Solitary accommodation of the bave allows.._
I have now the homon to
enclose their report, from which Grace will perceive that they are opposed to introducing
regular system of funishment - Cranks, shot drill.
on even solitary confinement except as to the latter in rare cases.
I differ from them, however, and think that all three modes
of funishment would be found extremely efficacious as aufilian to the principal labor on Polit
is novo sufervised, and I
with iron fences against veces
ground f
from other parts of the Building. -
abrenin seven
Bam cel ms reasonable surfsing that disagreeable mich irksome unfroductive labor inside the base would not be
Sficacions in deterring frisoners from inflicting sores on
themselve
to escape a les introme funishment-
the road..
One of the Prison Merde be used for such purposes, though it is not as large might be wished, and I have desired its South Walls to be
to screen it from
raised, so as
some neighboring houses, and the yard itself to be securely closed
funishment cells, and 26 others, be med An liturny
29 which
confinement, for I do not regarde the cells on
rather rooms of
European Prisoners is vitalle
for the purpose, thongss countert
the enclosed Report.
14. I now sum ufe by expressing
my opinions that it is
desirable very to obtain at least 12 Cranks, such as can be worked by a Prisoner in his cell... With there and the shot drill, I hope
to remedy this defect, which must
be admitted to exist in the present internal discipline of the barking:- the want of a ready means of kunishing malingerers and those who four prely disable themselves from working on the road.
15. I have, therefore to request brace with cause the
thant your
necebary directions to be given for the early purchase and shipment of 12 Cranks that the efferiment
be tried as speedily as posible. I have the hown to be.
My Lan Juke
kraces most obedient- bumble Servant.
ཚེར་བ་དེའི་ག་ང་ཅིག་ཅན་འཆེ་བ་དུས་ཐོག་
ngoi bong bóng
MINUTE PAPER.
In Jaylon
I suppose
A25Jelen
Sun R. Macdonnell
guust be left to co
has groin
Cous" to the
Dattes disp: of 27 Jely last, but
had mastered
the debyut. If
him I think it
that of the [obend } that ] What was
Crushe har ad boteur Kut whil Mitar an finement under den rqulations
Recommended to tin cans.
ast what
techuiver" golitary»
confineunt,
but that
talled the "separate" comprennt,
as its special that this
reject apoccted labenz be day under stuit regulations,
Whilst it attributio
greatest importance to indig zordual séparation by night,
"The Crown Apets of the drecht & procure & send int the 12 Cranks he asks.
15. 28 Juf 168
Japon. I doubt home abette
B. RM really consens pacate I hav schten Unsmement -
Suggested
thight addition to
proud his turning wound & telling
ws that he undicford what an
Hongkong
505-7795
Governor Sie Or Macdonnell 8.129.
8 August 1868
Shave the hon one
acknowledge.
the wipt
desperatet 2105os
In Taylor
of the 29 Thay Exforcing
Jour opinions
pricon disapline
in Houstong, Lembong
the reports of the Colonne
Ingeon & Supt of
gart upon
Of course gon have not failed
to observe that which solitary confinement under
regulations has
its special uses,
what was
Ec on mended
consideration
was not what in
technically called "Solitary, but what
is called " separate"
confinement-
That form of punishment does
not merssarily
reject associated labour by day undu street regulations,
Whilst it attributes
gustest importan & individual separation
by night.
The Crown Agents
have been instincte d
to procure & porcon d If the Colony 12 Cranks for
you affs.
Houghing
575.7795
The Crown Agents
Stutterin
11 Any 1868
Lame doveted by the
Duke of Buckinframe
Chandos to travenit
of a despatch from Sie MacDonnell
in which he applie
Jo 12 Cranks b
the Saol
at Songhong,
anto mistruct
I comply with that application.
Hong Kong 9 mayest
Hon : JG. Austin
Colonial Secretary.
In accordance with
by His Excellency
The Governor on I ́espatch
No 417 from His Gracc The Secretary of State
have consulted together
as to the practicabiliti
of effecting further forms in
and we have
Victoria Gast
honor to report
That on the first
floor of the European Gan there are
s16 (36)
alls adapted for solitary Confinement, afferding each 672 cubic feet of air, with abundant
ventilation, and § be Ols
the Ground Floor
at present used for solitary confinement, cack of
which has
cubic space
of use foot. But that
not advocates for
the further
extension of
this plan of punishment
rare cases.
That the precautions
taken for
survei Hanœe of
the prisoners at night,
be this briefly
described.
Every Cell is
at night, 12
open Iron Gate within
co voden
outside, which latter
is however
cold weather in
the case of these 12 cells.
The remaining Iron Gates
of construction
the Gaol, and et
expected that they will be completed in about 3 months if materials are
supplied by The Surveyer Geveral
bach corrider is aloed
with strong open Fron
Gates scoure by fastened.
A Turntley
hole might.
charge of one flour
He has a
and is relieved everyytivo
half hours.
He walks up and down
one end of the corridor to the other during
the or hole of his watch.
کا بھی سمجھے
An armed Police
is stationed on
each Yard, who has
also a large Police saute.
These sentries can' Communicate with each
An European officer
is on duty in
The Central
Tower all night, who
is required to visit all
the sentries and Turnkey, every half hour. He
is provided with a large
alarm bell, which
can be heard by the
Inspector
the locural Police Station, which is con-
tequous to the Gaol.
The whole of the Gan
be lighted
will soon
with Gas.
Every cell is
a signal bell
by which the prisoner
can communicate with
the Turnkey
and the Turnkey
notice the
condition of each roll
- peeted
as he passes
his rounds
of opinion
that the introduction
of cranks, shot drill and the tread will,
would not be
de terrent of crime, than the present septem of
hard labor on
the Ronds which
thoroughly
distasteful to the Chine
that they adopt every
possible
بیر احمد
avoid being sent out
they require the
closest surveillanel to
prevent shem
v seriousy.
enjering themselves, with
this object.
As to European Prisoners most of those confined
in Viétona Gaol are rather of the class technically known as accidental offender such as sailors and
soldiers to commetting Assaults 10, than for robbery and deshonesty. of opinion that,
although the punishment
referred to a bove, en ref.
to Chinese could
be very easily
introduced
for Europeans if required,
detrimental to the hears
of the prisoners in this almate.
It must not be
forgotten that things.
materially altered
Since 1865.
Stone Crettes
Island Prison has been
closed, and the whole of the Prisoners have been transferred to Victoria
-Gaol, from which there
is greater facility for
sending them out
sending hard laber on
The Reads,
and this la bor is carried.
rigid and
much more
and systematic
than it was
previous to 1865. regard
d to the
present sanitary
of the Gool it is only
necessary there has been only
one death this year. and that there is not
a sinale medical case
Hospital.
The following well make this more clear
Year average ho of
Prisoners
Deaths to
5729 the
I have the honor to be,
most obedicut Arvants
Munaymi Cotonal sirgeon.
Superintendent holonaGast
E.S.O. M/293
Honguing of many 1868.
(Received 17th May
179. ong ong
0.0: JU722
Colonial Surgeon and
Augusunkenden hof Victoria furl
balonial Seccetary
Hon. J. G. Austin.
Victoria faal
Further reforms murefly to the memorandum of His Excellency on Secretary of States owpatch N°47 of 27th Februarry-
Enclosure in Governor
Sir Richard Graves Macdonnells Derfatch & 575 of 29 May
May Lind Duke,
Government House, Hoongthong, 29th May, 1868.
In reference to Ajour Gpaces
despatch No 40 of the 18th of February
last instructing
me to fumish M2 Davies
and his family with a
4220 1/67. Sublic expence, if taimed at any time
Haio Space
The Duke of Buckingham
and bhundas,
Heer Majesty's Principal Secutary of State,
within four week's
from my receipt of
Your Grace's despatch, I huve now to stute
that having
caused Your Gracio
instructions
to be communicatio to Mr Duries he has
not availed himself of the offer.
He has settled here for the present
as buitor of
کیا عاما سالن
China Maqazine
Publication called the
I have the honor to be,
May Land Luke, Your Grace's most obedient,
humble servant,
Janus Mandoning
Governor.
Tomelting saved.
latine..
Suzulrequent
dang.) 1.
reporting the grant
and 1.0.25-4 M 1891. 8 of 150 to Mr. Davies for passage allowance
disallowing the fr
Ael2? No. 125-4 Any 1868.
485 5916
Mong hong
PRINTED FOR PARLIAMENT
Government Wasse,
Haughtong, 29th thay, 1818.
My Food Dritte,
In my dispatch News of the 21.4 Ultimo I had the hover to transit for
Your Graces information
some returns en
the subject of the average mumber of Larcomis
committed by servants during the last three,
Wis Grace,
This Duke of Breethinghaus and Chander,
Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of States
and the first Quarter of this, with
view to shewing
argument could be founded
Ereturns it
decidedly in favor of the
supposition that the institution of of en
and legalized howes for play in line of secret haunts infested by the worst characters had produced a very marked decline in
class of crine which
crime which it was once thought
the class of
world have been most directly encouraged
by the new
Sive stien, at a recent meeting of
the Legislative Council, I was astred question by the Honorable W. Keswick as to the probable disposal of the sums, which had accumulated in the Treasury from the Licuse fees.
I look the opportunity to give
Council some details of this general results
of the Policy recently instituted, and I enclose the report, though not very perfect
complete of what I said on roliat
The occasion:
course much of it is merely repetition of information previously trammitted to 1 four Grace, but I call atter lion to that pasage. near the end which explains some) opposition to recent Legislation on the part of wratchy Chinese Householders, and affords a clue to the
due to the origin of the information which some members of the Chamber of Comunce prefifeed to have received from The Chinese at a Meeting, the report of which I forwarded to love Grace in
my despatch of the 21st Ultime.
I had held a confirmee weit
principal:
Chuisese residents
bout nuans of decking.
of checking a serious increase
recently in the crime of Kidnapping, and whilst all admitted the
decrease
crine, and augmented efficiency of the Police, several adverted to the recent I
Legislation " as they called it, including the establishment of the Licensed Nouses, and
said they would prefer the old system.
As their
arguments and experience
would have led to the contrary conclusion,
puzzled at first to comprehend
meaning till
that they referred
of them explained
particularly to
that part of the Registration Ordinance of
1866 which made all
of harves finally
respassible for penalties of them houses was used by their tenants either as
Gambling
Brostels.
This they deal and tobe a hardships
but I told them it was one which
to bear, as a
any circumstances they would have
moderate vigilance
the part of.
of Wave property could
mable item to prevent this law being
violated, and their co-operation
tie important
given up
matter was the in
because of the slight inconvenience to
which it subjected
I attach some importance
this result of my interview with the Chiver, because it explains many
ochawise
inconsistent in their conduct and
arguments, for it would appear to bes quite possible for two persons to converse with the same chinese Warscholder, and de are haustly report him as bring hostile to and the ortion as being favorable
systems.
to the neww
had of late
add to this that I have
very great
reason to be
satisfied with the exertions of the Licensees, - They have
to considerable expense in securing the
the suvices of a better cafe of
inmployes, and more capable of preventing Chinese Servants and Clertes oblaining accefe to the Sicensed Norses. They have
put the Police
this track of many
bad characters and reboood carvvids,
whilst they have sheron themselves more)
than usually active in putting down attempts to establish illegal gamning
1 fove Grace will also find in
ihe enclosed statement to the Corneil explanation of the
Ml as ow
why attempts
itieve existed
are still made to reopen those haunts another point which had seemed to me difficult of explanation- legally licussed places where person might play openly without the risk of any penally. The explanation furnishes
to residents here
very strong
additional
grounds for maintaining the present substitute for the old illegal garning
I Jchases, though probably people in England
appreciate the wide difference
between the circumstances of Hongking and those of a hungprean state in relation
to such matters.
I have the hover to be,
My Lord Butter Man-Graces most obedient-
humble servant,
Rand Sammy Mandarinaly
Si C. Rows
I do not see Wat this calli for any hotel
It might be aches. welt 59.6 x
6411 - saying let his face.
in repard L. the appes:
nothing in
fination of Funds in from
is beyond bond
Enlamid in
dufulet ofthir
85th Aful
Last 11080. [fail in
NengRing. N40J
29th May 1868.
Sir Richard Graves Mac Donnell, CB.
His Graces
The Duke of Bucknigham & Chande-
Licenses.
Gamthing firms
Explanation
-to by Governor
in Legislative Concil. -
1 Enclame) 7
7797 Honestong
*TER FOR PARLIA
Maritonnell Se
Covernor
Lei R. G.
4 August 1868
Blade 30
I have the honoree
to adknowledge the
receipt of your dispatch
of the 29
mey transmitting a statimet
which you had made to The Legislative Council
in answer to a question which was added you G
Mr. Kesevick as to the
probable disposal of the
rums which had arrumulded
in the Treasury from the Licence fees under the
Gambling Ordinance do.
9 of 1867.
On this subyist
Shawn nothing to add.
to my despatel no. 80
of April.
Italze this opportunity
of artnowledging free despatches No. 485 of
the 21st of April and ho. 490 of the 30
April. The first forwarding
Eturns showing
diminution of Carceng
Amongst brvants since the opening of the Gambling
Storees in 18.
Commenting
the procuding
of the Stongstons Chambers.
of Commerce with regard
to this subject, and the
second reporting
further reducation of the
license fees by $2000 a
The Council net, according to appointment,
on Saturday, at 4 p.m.
THE GAMBLING HOUSES.
Mr. KESWICx wished to know if he should be in order in asking His Excellency whether anything could be stated in reference to the. money received under the gambling ordinance. The GOVERNOR said that properly speaking notice ought to have been given of a such a question. It was rather a difficult one to answer. There was a great deal which might he said, and a great deal which it was important that the Council should know, but if he were to limit himself merely to correcting the misstate- ments which had been made in connexion with the subject, all the time which they had at their disposal for legislation would be taken up. He was quite ready, however, (but only with the permission of the Conncil, as it would be a departure from the usual, routine) to answer Mr. Keswick's question. There had been no change whatever in the aspect of this matter. Nothing had been settled as to that particular point since the subject was first mooted. The original problem still remained unsolved, namely what to do with the money if it were taken, or how to achieve the results required if it should not be taken, He would like the Council to know how consistent the policy of the Executive bad been in this matter from the first. (He sent for a volume of dispatches, and read some extracts from 1866 to 1868.] As far back as the 9th of May, 1887, he had saud that if the Home Government could devise any simple method of relieving the police from the harrassing and demoralising duties of suppressing secret gambling-houses he would be glad to try it. He was far from saying that he had exhausted all the means which it would be possible to imagine, because he had tried all which he could think of himself. He went on, he said, in this dispatch to state that the Executive Council agreed with him in thinking that no other way remained, but that of enlist- ing the aid of Chinese on behalf of the objects which the Government had in view. Again, on the 20th May, he had argued that to expect the bearty co-operation of the Chinese, unless the amount charged for the licenses were sufficiently high to affect the profits of the licensees, by any fines for faults, either of omis. or commission, would be impossible therefore any project for the issue of licenses without fees would ex necessitate rei fail to accomplish the main purpose of such licenses. From that day to this (and there were some earlier dispatches on the subject which he had not at hand just then), the opinions of the Government on this subject had been precisely the same. He could not give Mr. Keswick a better answer than was con- tained in a speech of his addressed to the Council in August last, in which he said, “what- : ever addition comes to your means from that; source, can only be viewed as the accidental, and unsought result of a policy to which the Government is reluctantly driven in pursnit of an object of great public importancë, and one which is entirely distinct from the acquisition of revenue." Then he had gone on to allude in this same speech to the imputation of in- terested motives on the part of the Government which were easily made, but which were without logical force till it could be shewn that the Go- vernment were justified in folding their arms, and doing nothing to represe acknowledged evils, and put down illegal nurseries of crime, or till it could be shewn that the Execu- tion had a choice of any other experiment If anyone could invent a means of breaking up the confederations of bad character, and getting rid of the incubus with which the government was now hurdened, he would regard him as a great public benefactor. But no plan worth five minutes attention had hitherto been sug- gested. They must, moreover, remember that they were not dealing with any imaginary evil. He had long since furnished to the Secretary of State proof that, in 1865. although 45 illegal | gambling bannts had been broken up in that year, from 1st January to 1st September, there nevertheless were 35 in existence at the latter flate whilst all of the latter were the banuts of the worst characters in the place, and were the places where most of the burglaries aud crivies were planned. He would now venture to say that the experiment which had been tried had not been unsuccessful. His attention. from tha first, had been directed.
as his earliest despatches would prove,-to the danger lest the houses should be frequented by clerks and servants and thus lead to losses,
tempting people of that class to the commission of small robberies. He had instituted an in- quiry, however, as to the number of polar. conies which bad taken place during several periods, and he found that the average nunta by Sowat
of cases during thirteen weeks of each year. from 1865 to 1858, bad been as follows In the period for 1865 there had been 76 Bonvictions and 10 cases discharged; in 1866,58 convictions and 17 cases discharged; in 1867, in thirteen weeks previous to September, when the gambling-houses were first opened, 66 convicted and 21 discharged, and in thirteen weeks sub- sequent to the inanguration of the present sys. tem. 67 convicted and 15 discharged. Imme- diately after the present houses were opened, be drew attention to the necessity of prevent- ing servants from going to these places. The licenseos exerted themselves to prevent this, and he allowed them to recoup themselves for some losses which they thus incurred by a pro... portionate reduction of the fees. The fees, in- deed, had been reduced subsequently, until at the last payment they were at the rate of $14,500 a month. instead of $21,000, as at frst. Well, the result of the efforts which the licenses made was that the figures, taking an average of thirteen weeks for this year, bad come down to 40 cases in all, that is, to less than half what they had been for the same pe riod during the previous three years. Inelu- ding cases reported where the offenders had not been caught, the number was only 46 for the whole. There could be no record of course con- cerning the actual number of gamblers as com- pared with those of a former time, but it was only natural to infer that if there was a great diminution in the crime of larceny by servants, it was very unlikely that the loss of money by gaming could have increased. It had to be remember, moreover, in reference to the figures just quoted, that the police returns were much! more accurately kept now than formerly, and that we might be sure all cases were recorded now, though this could by no means be said in referencs to former yours, Very few of the better, or any class of servants or Chinese clerks, could now obtain admittance to the gambling bouses; to accomplish this the licensees no doubt incurred considerable loss, but the government was happily able to make it worth their while, in consequence of the present ar- rangement by which the amount of the monthly fees payable by the Licensees rise or fall in proportion to their exertions to carry out the objects of Government. They had now engaged a superior class of meu to watch the players. The difficulty bad been in the first instance to fix the license fees at such an amount that i while it would leave the licensees profits worth i baving, it would render them seriously appre hensive of any additional fines which might be imposed by the Government, One difficulty however could not be got over, but this of course existed before the present system was intro- duced, just as much as now. There were always private clubs to which the better class of com- pradores, and those really charged with large sums of money could go for the purpose of gambling. At some of these houses large sums were lost, far larger than which were ever staked in the licensed houses. Some people might ask how it was now, that there should be any illegal gambling-bonses left. That had puzzled himself at first, but the explanation appeared to be that while at the licenscal Lonses the bank charged a commission of 7 per cent.. the illegal honses held out the in- He ducement of only charging. 3 per cent. would certainly not encourage gambling by making the licenses reduce their coumission, moreover, no articles of jewelry could be staked at any of the legal houses. except the common Chinese gold rings, which, indeed, were not taken in pledge, but simply purchased for their weight as metal-the vendor staking money. Another reason why there were still some secret gambling houses was that a large class of persons, who were known to the police as notorious offenders, could not venture frequent the licensed houses. In reference more immediately to Mr. Keswick's question, must still inform the Council that none of the money received under the license could be considered available for public pur- poses. He would not deny that his reason told him that inasmuch as this money had really accrued accidentally, in consequence of a mea sure which was introduced solely for police purposes, it was unwise not to use it. Still he could not help a certain sympathy with those who cried out, however wildly, against the ac- quisition of a revenue from such a source as this, and the Council must not expect that he
would exert himself personally to obtain the use of that money for the colony. Never- theless that point was one of detail, and not of principle. If it were the only difficulty the money could be thrown into the sea, and the question be this disembarrassed of this inci- dental difficulty. The amount ebarged which had already fallen to about $14,000 a month, he thought might eventually be reduced to $10,000. That sum might possibly be sufficient to secure the zealous co-operation on the part of the license holders essential to ensure fair profits, and render their establishments more efficient for police purposes. On the whole he was fully convinced that the system had diuin- ished cringe, while there was no room at all for doubt that it had increased the efficiency of the police, by ruining the chief cle- ment of corruption. That, increover, the opinion of the Chinese themselves. When he had lately received a number of respectable Chinese residents to confer with bim as to the Kidnapping Ordinance, the subject of gambling had then arisen, and they all ad- mittedthegeneral diminution of crime, neverthe- less some of them had declared themselves desirous that the recent legislation should be done away with. It was some time before he could reconcile this work with the admission they had previously made till, he found that they shrank from the responsibility thrown upon them by the Registration Ordinance, which compelled them to take care that the houses of which they were owners should not be couverted into gambling houses or houses of ill-fame. He had told them that they certainly must not ex- pect to see that arrangement modified in any case. These discursive remarks, however, the Governor said, hal better come to an end, though the statement which he had been led by Mr. Keswick's question into making would pro- bably be not without interest to the community. The CHIEF JUSTICE asked what was the total amount of the sums which had accumulated under the gambling licenses.
The GOVERNOR said about $135,000. Mr. RYRIE asked if the Governor thought it likely that the keepers of the houses really would exclude respectable persone,
The GOVERNOR thought that very likely persons of such respectability, as, for instance, the Chairman of the Chamber of Commerce. would be able to gain admittance, but the upper class of Chinese servants would certainly find it necessary to go to their own clubs:
Mr. RYRIE said these measures were not found necessary in other large Eastern cities.
JUDGE BALL said that there could be no doubt about the fact that crime bad diminished in this colony.
The CHIEF JUSTICE corroborated this. Mr. RYRIE asked whether it could not be at- tributed to something else than the gambling- bouses.
The CHIEF JUSTICE Said that the depression of trade would naturally have the effect of in- oreasing crime. What did Mr. Ryrie allude to ?
Mr. RYRIE would not pretend to find an ex- * planation himself
The GOVERNOR said that if anyone liked to bring forward a motion to test the opinion of the Council on this subject, he would have no objection, if it could be done consistently with the Rules which governed their proceedings as a Legislative body. The Council he was sure was not a body which would form an opinion hastily without taking trouble and ascertaining facts.
Mr. BERIE thought there must be some other means of stopping crime; other Governmenta did not find it necessary to resort to this ex- pedient.
The GOVERNOR said that the circumstances of Hougkong were altogether peculiar. We must adapt ourselves to circumstances, if we cannot bend them to our will, and most un- questionably such a policy would in Europe be wholly unjustifiable.
Enclosure in Govano. Sie Richard Graves Mac Donelli Despatch N. 507 of 29th May
Separate
conson 7 (deny.
Ance? No. 166--
-26 Sept 168 7
Further to F.D. Comet 23 Sept. 169 T
Letter to st. C. 220v 6q
78.911 -
"Zurther Gor. 2o. 25-167b 1870
Mong cong
Government Hesse, Hong Kong, 29th May, 1868.
My Sad Duke,
I have the hones to actínowledge.
receipt of your Gracis despatch "Confidential" of the 10th Jawnary last on the subject of
nuitual undition of Criminals and deserters,
11981/87 by this Government and that of Macao.
His Grace,
The Duke of Buckingham and Chandes,
Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State,
In the first place, I have to rewind Your Grace that the supplementary Aväty and General Regulations of Prade, agreed on belivien Her Majesty and the
mperor of China in 1842, have long been abrogated by the 1. Article of the Treaty of Pientsin (October 1860). Consequently
reasoning of the Law Officers in the opinion. travismilled by tour Grace becomes irrelevant
far as it is based
the assumption
what auch aupplementary Treaty is still
in force
subject is allojector comprised in Alide 21 of the Treaty of Tientsin, with the exception of certain mutual
engagements to recover.
-property of absconding debtors, when such
1966 24.
property is situated within the dominions of either of the contrading parties (Artides 22
and 23).
There is, however,
whatever for
every mo
stipulation
surrender by the Chinese
Authorities of Criminals, whertive British or Chinese subjects; who commit crimes,
grave, in this Polossy,
refuge in China. Such emission of what
in all equity should be a reciprocal right
from a Treaty
a British fleet
is not movely in itself an
extraordinary and apparently
Am ac conn
~ fact, but has also operated most injuriously
to British interests here,
1998-167
ve fully..
explained in mey despatch N. 392 of the
th. November last.
The immediate proximity of Chinese territory and of Macao to this Colony, and) the facilities of intucommunication hourly afforded for the escape of Orininals and
to Macae- there may
be differmer of
ofision, but I certainly feet it inexpedinit that the law should be left
present very incomplete and rather I mintelligible stater
the disposal of the plunder resulting from Larcenies and
Burglaries, might have
been expected to have induced Great
Britain to insist on
making the obliga
lion to give up criminals at least
reciprocal. The contrary, however,
have sheron, is at present
it is to be hoped
case; through
will me long
MULAS MAI VO
be taken to remedy so palpable
penjustice.
As to the
necessary for the
mutual rendition of criminals escaping to this place from Macao, or from here
Your Grace will observe from the enclosed opinion of the Ading Actorney
General, that he is averse to any
of nuituals res dition of criminals and)
deserters to be entered into between this and the Macao Gornment. I world
Gevaument
observe however, that the considerations on which he objects to such
arrangement,
- for example, the anbrage which he carceives the Chinese might take at the
quasi-recognition grim shucky to she Macao Government,
questions rather
of a political nature than such as lie within the legal province of the 1. Allorning General.
Now in point of fact I am
continually applying to the Maras I Government for help to track refugee Pirates and Criminals absconding to Macao, And I am bound to say that apparently my Officers always receive the most cordial countenance and assistance from the higher Authorities there. It is true that in the majority of escape, never strelifs, many have been captured and given up, whilst in those
coses such criminals
where, through known to have
fled to Macas, they could not be found,. I have had always sufficient reason
a to justify
me in considering that their escape was due to the corupt protection
which they purchased from the subordinates
of the Macce Police, and
disinclination of itv Gaummit to
In that respect the Macos Govern.
ment has exhibited
-marked contrast
to the conduct of the Chinese Austerities.
Moreover, it is of extreme cause
The Colony that itcines and robbers should "
& not feel thruseless secured in itive persons
strein plunder, if they can arly escape to Macao, which they may
reach almost
Londoner can reach casily as a London
Gravesend, I have, she fire, far lef
hesitation than the Attorney General about
passing an Ordinance on itire basis of reciprocity, and authorizing the rendition of all Marco Mininals gritty of crimes arenting to Felong in British law, as
also all Military or Naval deseters on such proof of guilt being give
in the case
at present required criminals tathing refuge here from China.
I think its umbrage which the Attorury General supposes the Chinese
might take at such
measurŲ)
convention is in
imaginary,
and if it
wholly real, it is of comparatively
secondary importance,
substantial reason
there is
of Public Policy arising
from what is either to be feared or haped';
which can justify
in allowing
preponderances
invidiate interests of the Colony.
Thave always felt mniosy
criminal
claim for
rendition of..
Governor of that Colony,
reant of
Macao should be preferred by the
power to comply with a request of that
native might lead to
discontinuance
even that partial assistance which at present Freesives in reco
recovering
diminals
assistance the mere
escaping to Macao- reputation of which has a very
effect on the criminal clafen
Therefore, if itere be
de leurent
ensure the advantages at presunt
enjoyed by this Colony in its relations if the not possible to with Macao, and yt.
give up Portuguese Military
- guess Military or Naval
deserters from that place except by
to such.
Ordinance empavering me?
reasonable objection.
It might be made,
if expedient,
Ordinance of an experimental
nature and to last for arly
to be shen renewed if desirable.
Of course, if Your Gra
if (four Grace be advind)
itat all this
transmission
be effected by the
- of instructions,
Acting Attorney General, recommends, such Vite Inclone
-solution of the difficulligo
would be
adusirable if it be also legally adequate.
The latter, havever, is a point which
Grace must decide.
must decide. Zam
Move Grace
thing, riz:
of Policy, especially
since itse
of deserters has created some
non rendition
soreness,
and has attacked the attention of
Macao Aushorities to the general question,
it is not expedient to leave itiese matters unsettled state. Wheiter
in their present
by instructions, order in Comcil, Treaty, Ordinance, Fapprehend that the mutual rendition of criminals and diserters should
The most extinded? be now arranged:
and liberal basis, without referenced to
treaties existing with China, and cassidering solely the interests of justice and of this Colony,
I have the honor to be,
My Ford Aukle, Gon Grace's meet obedient humble amant
hard James Mandonnelly
Governor
Hong Kong Jeparate. 29th May 1868.
Sir Richard Graves that Dermell, CB.
His Graces
The Duke of Buckingham & Chandler-
Maças Government-
Rendition of Deserters and
Anninals to-
1790. Hong Tang
MINUTE PAPER.
Si & Roger.
A Rest niks it for of Macas in and ofthe fruition.
Reciprocal agreement
in some form
form recommended-
1 Endesine
such an Erdiname
uhalis uzatd
pupiti prom
Wille Balea
For to find it Patapaase, soling
Instaprese sin up Jupition from
I under at the Balls suffoning
that this conca
rstated Z
ins nutions and on
En person residing
under British
law (D. prevail intK) is entitled to the Unifit of Restit Low. And to Quum cornst arrest & deputa non unless she can, hew Law sin
then in Lendin it wH. K.
I should be auford to dea This to the 7.6. stating – that HG. apsed
with to Sim that an Oldinsen thmuld he passed enable the for
5 for arrest
the Instrume for puren chaye
with becains comes
not brin
a political character-muter
Ads the coming into opreation &
buch hat bis contingent
Minila panking Mig atur
bing undulatin
For Maiso
#4. puspind
7798 Stonelong
Under Lecretary of State
Jonign Office
Blatte 3
lust no desertus.
7 August 1868
With reference to
the Correspondence noted
directed by the Duke
Mtigatum
C. 6. 23 bet 1867.
7.6.4 Death.
4 Jan 1868
of Ruetting ham and
and that with 2 to concreen
to intrent het to desd
tumit u in ad
Add that it is hardly rupey to Man that MM. has no fam
to um trust the for. (as supond
by the how Abffendi) to four arred
& surrendu pusius wide in H. Weicht sinc
under authait of som
A Local Law.
C. 6. 31
Separate -29 May 1868
Lifter 1860
Chandos to transmit
Considuatin
to you for of Lord Stanley.
• Copy of a despatch from
The for? of Stongpong
on the subject of the
Endition to the for?
of macas of Portuguese Deserted heaping
to that Colony.
I am to request that fore will state to Lord Stanley hat his Grace apres with Lie R. MacDomull
Chat he should be
Authorged to pass
An Ordinance enabling of Hongstons
the for? to arrest and
delince over to the
Portry new for? pusons charged with
Leanores Crimes, not
bung of a political
Character- but not. deserters the Coming
into operation of such Ardencence bery Contingent on a similar oblejation being undertalten by the You? of macao, And his freue would Accordingly propose wilt Lord Stanley's Concurrence to instruct Lie R. Meulonnell to sulmit the draft of ruch an Ordenance for consideration
Ian Goud
that It is hardly humary to oliver
that thee majesty has
No power to instruct
The for? (as proposed
of the Artery Colonial
Attorney funeral)
to arrests and Surrendre
pusons weident in
HongKory
in wheel
English Cave prevails,
except under authority of come Imperial
local law.
Attorney General's Office.. Hongting, 12th May, 1868.
compliance with the Governer's
request contained in a Memorandum endorsed on the Despatch of the Secretary of State bearing date the 10th of January last I have the honor to inform you that I have read with attention the Report of the Lover Officers of the brown
referred to in buch Despatch, as alow the Treaties alluded to and have
conclusion that it is undesirable to
enter into any arrangement with the
The Honorable,
The Dolonial Secretary
:authorities at Macao by Treaty respecting
ar the Exctradition
Surrender of Deserters of Criminals or to legislate
or to legislate in any
upon the subject.
2. I am of opinion that there is no
absolute
efficient mode of recognizing
independence of a Government than by entering into an Extradition Treaty with it. Applying this remant to Macas and considering the jealously with which the Portuguese community there resident is regarded by the Chinese Government. I should fear that to enter into such stipulations suggested that Government might take umbrage at our conduct, an event, "I conceive, under existing circumstances
wwvere we
devoutly to be deprecated. 3. Again I see no state of things which renders Legislation necessary. During the many years that I have been resident in this Colony I have not known of any
absence of such
case where the
an enactment
Suggested has operated prejudicially
interests or
to those of
inhabitanto of Macao.
If I am not transguessing the limits of my office, I would suggest that the Governor should apply for instructions from home authorizing him to surrender at his discretion to the Government of Macas these Pontisquese Subject's who may have been quilty of crimes and
Offences at Macao including desertion, but that authority should not be based upon any higher ground than mutual Comity.
5. It would appear that the Law Officers of the known
are under the
impresion that the Supplementary Treaty in 1843 is at present in force. I think fit right however to call the attention of His Excellency to the fact that that treaty has been abrigated by the Treaty
the ratifications wherein
at Pekin October 24 1860.
I have to
exchanged
(Signed) Henry John Bull. Acting Attomey General.
(The bapy)
Garstiner Autor
bolonial Secretary.
Censee? No. 127-
GAug 1888
7. 1869-786
Ireas: Concor 8..
Anse! No. 146-84. Any
Mr. A. Falcones affl? 8 marter, Cento
Lee to for
? No. 31 - // Meucht
longing_s
Covernment House
Hong Kong, 29th May, 1860.
My Lord Duke,
I have the hour to inclose i
cloure & tracing and Estimate of a flan for
some additions to the Central School, which I think will be bound to render available a very large additional space at a comparatively
fis Grace
The Duke of Buckingham and Chande.
Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State,
abut £1200
small costs. At the same time
I do not anticipate, even if the additional Master for whom I
have afflied be sent out, that Tide foremen
Secretary of State
April 1866.
the number of the finfils in the 1447148 Central School (averaging from 260 to 270) must necesarily increase in any large proportion,
some time it is note
auch for
desirable that they should do so -
fully appears from the enclosed Report of Mr. Tewark, the Bear Master.
2. Nevertheless, the necessity of some place sufficiently large and well ventilated to contain all the fmfils
on certain occasi
Enclosure 42.
204 April 17.
the distribution of frizes, lectures, A. 4, is evident, apart from the
experiency of having a third Class Rooms, for the reasons stated by Wiz Stewart.
3. A further necessity to increa stace has also arisen from the want If room wherein to put of conveniente. not merely the materish of the Laboraton recently received in sccordance with
my requisition of the 15th Febuary last the still larger material and
year, but
extensive fittings of the Shint Laboratory of which the former must either be returned to England at great expense and
risk or sold here for a comparative brifle, whilst the
fittings, which were constinetest at a heroy expense, would be altogether look. This becutive Council is quite appee as to the inexperiency of auch waste of a collection, which though beyond what was originally required, is admirably calculatt for the disemination of the more useful practical Knowledge
the Chinese, and also
amongst such portion of the
Foreign Community
to share in the advantages offered
All these
is insufficient to justify any large increase in the accommartin of the Central School form when combined an
argument los coment to be resisted, and which I skink your brace with regard
quite justifying the advice
by the Conncil, namely
given me
to proceed with the works at once use at the earliest
moment the advanligen
contemplated.
5. Accordingly the work has been commenced and I
brew that your brace will approve
of the responsibility, assumed by myself and
perhaps each of them singly
in the matter, more especially
from the plan of the additional accommodation projected, such use is made of the existing
Building the cost of the new.
I have the hour to be,
My Lord Juke,
materially diminishes
Grace's most obedient humble Servant,
Mandi Governo.
Lie R. M
antiifates but in the sumpt of
hi despartit 5554 Les frace will han provided to fund the additional Schooltearth therein afflied for.
But I affrand &- me text this could hardly be done in the there ansatifurtory state of the Revenue It is time it is only
In a food object, bt it is well to
there the Colony tect they must hay
this debts before they
Juti aditional
on the Devenne - Anst themse
tin R. M. was told her hisfrace would be prepared to connder Jaconlly
Vote zu Schortleader aber the
could bear the charge.
I M. point and that this Exten onfit not than ten cnimund with
Ang Kong. S2508. 29th May, 1868.
Governm Tir Richard Graves Mactonnes
His Grace.
The duke of Buckingham and
Central School.
Additions to
Reasons for -
MINUTE PAPER.
authit, that it I. h st- mitted I it Lords of the mean & that Hy is glad Miehen per the expenditen of putti mon that no putte diffi. culty in anticipates in to just to Marnis ofth deponed hot.
Ada Bhut
the remettanas en that
account have recommend & W. look out puth Schoolmaste
Pants // WH
(2 Kuclosures)
B. Bryant
Jore willique from the accompanying hapers that an additional,
Master is wanted for the
Central School, Hongtong.
Salay not hes than £300 a
Jean with quartus ar
exuivalent.
18lam 1888.
Governor No.
7799 Stone long
Lii R. G. Maubonnell
20 July Blatke
6 August 1868
Anece & 908.
I have the honores
to almowledge the leciift
I of your despatel. No. 508
4. of mee
of the 29
To Mr. Bryant for enclosing a tracing and
afft. fa
SchoolMarlin.
estimate of a plan for
Certain additions to the
Central School, Stonplay,
the reasons
which have indeed.
fou to order the work
being proended with
Copy Reas: 8 Aug/68.
at a cost of about
of 1200 without waiting for my authority.
In reply I have
to inform gore
that altho
This expence ought not
to have been incurred
without authority I will
&commend it to the
Lords Com 20 of
Tranny for their
Landtion as
I am glad
to infer from this expenditure
of public money for anticipate no
x and prom you
Recent Umittance. on nut. of the theita Contribution
further difficulty.
Meeting the first claims
of the Imperial for? on auttar head
Account of the military
Cosstribute you
As the remittented
on this account have In the dam reain
recommenced I will
also tatre for relecting
HongKory
the additional
master for whom fore
Applied in your deepratch
471 of the 4th of
7799 Stonestone
The Lecretary to the dreaming
252ch Blakke 5,
Estimate nose we?
·471-4 April 1868
8 Aug 1868
I am dericted If the
Duette of Ruding how to
Chandos to transmit to You, for the considuation of the Lords Cont of the Iranny, copies of leve despatches from the for?
of Stoneslong the first requesting that his frame
would select and dend
out to the Colony an Additional Apistant
master for the Central
the second
Engeursting lanation for
An expenditure of about
certeen additions
of 1200 £120
which he has ordered
No. 508-19 May 186
that the expenditure
involved should weier
their Lordships zanetion
dan ser.
to be made to the
Central School,
I am also to enclose
Copsis of
the answers
which his frame has
returned to these despatches,
and I am to request
that you will state to
The Lords Con is that
his fem wld recommend
No. 92- 6 Jane 186
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Central School Sketch Plan shewing prepone
alterations
Đang trong
hclosure Ho] Despatche
1° 508 29 May 1868
Entrance frum Frigh St:
Sketch Plan shewing proposed__ Alterations
Ient of Verandah.
Upper School
Open Yard
Elevation in Gough St.
Verandah of Upper School .
Open Yard
Laboratory
Gorrizio g.
Third School Room Proposed Lecture Rom
32.0x30.0
Gough St Level.
of Present Schools.
Scale 16 Feet to
Laboratory.
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Cough Street
Section.
Entrance from Gough St.
Central School
Sketch Plan Thewing proposed
Zeret of Yard
of VanRah Upper School.
Alterations
Section thro' Laboratorys
Open Fard.
Eleration in Gough St
Verandah of Upper School.
Upajinar
Corridor.
Proposed Lecture Room 53.02 30.0
Tate for Isvetrarments_de:
Laboratory.
Joro il 12 MONOD
Gough St Level.
Scale 10 Feet to an Inch ·
Open Yard.
of Present Schools
Zaboratory
TEAST BL
OFFICE OF SURVEYOR GENERAL
ESTIMATE OF THE EXPENSE NECESSARY TO BE INCURRED FOR
additions to Central Schools.
PLAN OR DESCRIPTION.
yoore was
It has been long felt that another and commodend class
indispensable at these schools 444. Cube yards of digging
and wheeling away the head master writes - "I propose to devote more 2700. sq ft of split gramite in foundations time to the First class than I have hitherto been ables 18300 cubeft. Brickwork
do and it is therefore very.
chat class in
a flat roof square tiles on,
desirable that I should he 3000. og ft. doubletting secured with wire
by themselves - I shall then als without creating class whose progress I
of double tile ge
be able to take into this confusion in the others,
may from time to time choose to test - this part of my work. I have hitherto been unable to perform, on account of
size of my
again he have o place where all the boys
desirable to d
asverrebled when it is nec
the accompanying tracing shews the proposed means of providing for the increased.
accommodation and the is prepared in detail.
estimate
Chunam floor
of dressing, squaring breluzing old paving of 7 Stone Candings
Zabor in removing present stips taking up parnry
men 144 days
Betting & lange Iron Trap
Building + new Chimney from Laboratory
$ Corbels under trusves
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6.8 2.0.
Redressing 21 Stone steps &fexing
Extra labor to teles round, Ventilators
stores co
sotringers
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کھو کہ کبیر
واهیم کر
Forward.
Approved,
Ruta Braves Mandrell
Governor.
4 Store Columns and caps
out for 4 new door
Bricking up old
5 New stone wen
Cerazers
80 ft run of 10. drain pipe
450 Cube ft. hard wood in principals
plates to
$400 ft run of China fir poles
440 (tour of
moulding
Gutter boards and bearero
Forward.
140 lbs wit
n in both re
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3 light windows "frames complete
3 Windows in staircase
Gables of school
Zaboratory
3 folding doors complete
staircase
squares of 3/4 Roof boards. (plained
1/4 floor boarding
300 ft super bourding to video of Bridge
111⁄2 sashes & frames in Laboratory roof
Courter correplete Irellis worth to ceiling
7534 17733
Forward.
zo hard wood steps & resero ere 800 sq yds of 3 coat plastering 255 ft super of plaster molding
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Supplementary
REPORT AND ESTIMATE No. 28 OF 1865.
rations and
DATED 0.
PARTICULARS.
MATERIALS
TO BE PURCHASED.
MATERIALS
TO BE ISSUED FROM STORES.
PORTION OF WORK TO BE PERFORMED
BY CONTRACT,
Casualties,...
TOTAL...
Mhn Clark.
Act? Assistant Surveyor General.
Deshatch Mz 08 of 3 May
Sir Richard Graves Mactomete
Enclosure I'm Gork
ABALISKOWY
(Apo pay.)
Central School,
Victoria Hong Kong, 20. April, 1865.
Ihave the honor to make the
following report on His Prerellency's -Minute in reference to Mr Milark's plan.
It is not
intention, in.
the first instance at least, to make
any great at the Central School on the arrival of the New Master. I have long fall that additional assistance is needed to secure the efficiency of the School with its present attendance. -
at addition to the numbers.
The Honorable,
C. C. Smith
Acting Colonial Farstary,
SURVEYOR GENERAL'S
ESTIMATE OF THE EXPENSE FOR
Alterations & additions.
Victoria, 10 June
to Central Schools
REPORT AND ESTIMATE
Supplementary
No. 2 of 1868.
Notwithstanding this, when
the new Master comes another and
room will be In the
commodious class– wanted, - for these first place, I propose to devote more time to the first class than I have hitherto been able to do, and it is
desirable that I should
therefore very have that class, (at prosent numbering
40), in a room
by themselves. I. shall then, also, be able to take
into this new-
creating confusion in the others,
class-room, without
dals whose progress I may, from
time to time; choose to test. This- part of my work I have hitherto
been unable to perform e
on account
of the size of my
classes, - my
time being fully occupied with them:
It will occassiona
Chy happen that I
have two classes
class - rooms, _ either when there is any
subject in which both could.
class is preparing.
this leaving
of another...
exercise
elv lRXI.
me time for the examination
_ room, then, capable
of containing to or
70 boys, would
on the arrival
thus be indispensable
of the new Master M. Clark's plan
provides for very
ch more than.
this : but, if it were carried out, it would form.
a most desirable addition
to the School, for at present,
at present, we have.
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1 place where all the bags. assembled when it is necessary desirable to do so. His Excellency will remember the packing that. necessary to get the boys into the Upper School, when he wished to see them all,
the occasion of the Distribution of the Prizes in 186 %. -
As, then, or commodious Class -
- room will be indispensable it
becomes simply a question for His Excellency to decide whether he is prepared to go to the additional
expense of building the proposed
Hall, which would form so
desirable an
addition to the School,
and which, (supposing the School
: to prosper, ) might very soon become a necessity. Shave, however, thought it best to confine myself to a ..) statement of what is absolutely required et present._
I have 12
(Signed)
(True Copy)
Frederick Stewart,
Head Master.
Grundiner Madonn Colonial Loretary.
jrt. Yongng
Government Kaise, Hongkong, 30th May, Me.
My Ford Duke,
I have the honor to enclose here -
Indisine hit with mine Ordinances recently paped by
muperlf and the Legislative Comel.
It will be my duty to forward the
official certified originals by next thail
His Grace,
The Duke of Buckingham and Chandos,
Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of States
when I shall have received the Acting Merney Grimali opinions which should
pany them.
In the meantime I consider it
expedient that Your Grace's Department
should not be without the
refering to documents which from their native have necesarily formed the subject of Public comments. To render the enclosed more intelligible I also transmit the proceedings of the Legislative Concil
eported in the "Daily Profe", the leading
local Journal.
I have the hover tobe,
Your Grace's
My Lord Dutle,
most obedicis humble man
Ratuframes Mandormell
Igovernor.
Inclosure 1:2.
HongKong.
No We seg
30th May 1868.
Geveriner
Ii Richard Graves Mac Donnell, CB.
His Grace,
The Duke of Buckingham & Chandes.
Legislations.
Transmits mine Ordinances recently pafed
Svektor por ants presen
Jr. E. Roger.
the person's papers when we recesse the Authentrusted their spher
thie Acting Attorney
Cenerali Resort
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The Daily Press
BONGKONG, MAY 6TH, 1868.
The Legislative Council.
Present:
HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR, THE CHIEF-JUSTICE.
THE ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY, THE ACTING ATTORNEY-GENERAL. THE AUDITOR GENERAL.
THE ACTING COLONIAL TREASURER. HON. P. RYRIE
HON. W. KESWICK.
HON. J. P DUN WAON. *
A meeting of the Legislative Council was held yesterday afternoon, at three o'clock,
THE PIRACY COURT.
The GOVERNOR said that they met together once mor”, as usual, at this time of year. There was not so much business before then as there had been previously, but some circumstances would always arise rendering legislation neces- sary. The first Ordinance he had to lay before! them was designed to amend, in a very slight particular, the Piracy Court Ordinance. There had been a correspondence with the Home Go. verament on the subject of this Ordinance, and the Admiralty had expressed itself averse to the idea of allowing naval officers to form part of the court. It was quite willing that they should give their assistance if required as assessors, but it had become necessary to amend the clause which provided that two out of the five persons constituting the court should be naval officers. He had considered it best to repeal the former Ordinance, andjembody it in the new one, to- gether with the. Ordinance passed last session, conferring special power in piracy cases on the Supreme Court, so that all the law on the sub- ject might be found within the four corners of this new Ordinance. By the proposed arrange- ment the court would consist of the Chief- Justice, the Julge of the Summary Court, and three persons to be appointed by the Governor as unofficial members. Although, under the actually existing courts Piracy had been very satisfactory dealt with, still it might be desirable" to have the special powers of this Ordinance at hand in onse of need, and he therefore thought it would be unwise to give it up.
The Ordinance was read a first time. THE DISARMAMENT OF CHINESE VESSELS.
The GOVERNOR said that in connection with this subject he had Dow forward one which enabled the Government to bring to co-operate with the native authorities in making arrangements for the disarmament of certain native vessels. Ever since he came to the colony he had been in correspondence with the Chinese authorities through the Con- sul at Canton and H.M. Minister at Peking, &. concerning the necessity of some measure for the disarmament of native vessels, on the ground that, numerous and heavily armed as they were in general, they gave shelter to those of a really piratical character, by making it difficult to distinguish one class of vessels from the other. It was urged, he knew, that if you disarmed the honest vessel you would simply expose her to greater risk than that which she peviously ran, and this consideration opened à wide field for discussion. It was very rare however, that auy vessels which were attacked esouped by bein armed. Experience showed that while all veasels went about armed, the pirates gained much more by the arrangement than the honest traders. That at all events was the opinion of persons who bad a wide ex- perience of China. He was very anxious that the experiment of disarmament should be tried. In Sir Harry Keppel he had found a very powerful ally. When he went north, he bail seen the Minister at Pekin and some members of the Foreign Board, and much interest in the subject had been telt. The Admiral had in-
duced the authorities to write to the Viceroy at Canton giving him instructions, and the Consequence of this step was a proclamation, which was lately issued, prohibiting Fishing- vessels from carrying artus, or munitions of war, on paia of confiscation. He confessed that he could not regard the regulation, as ori. ginally proposed by the Viccroy, as entirely satisfactory. One great advantage, which would arise from a more general disarmament, would be that it would enable us to distinguish pirates from other vessels, whenever they were searched. While applied to fishing vessels only, the mica sure though a step in advance, and in the right direction, was not very effective. The proclama- tion, as it stood at present, did indeed contain one very important clause in addition, which prohibited all vessels from carrying stiuk-pots. This addition was one which he bad pressed the admiral to have inserted, and it gave us a fair chance of seeing the experiment properly tried. Stiak-pots were exclusively the weapons of pirates. No pirate was without them, and we would now be enabled to fix a piratical character, after examination, on every vessel which was really a pirate. The Ordinance gave the Governor in Executive Council power to frame regulations to prevent all Chinese vessels from carrying arına. In this way it would be possible to keep abreast of any reform introduced by the Chinese. It would not be convenient to go far in advance of them, and have stringent laws in force in this colony, while such regulations might be a dead letter only a few miles off. Instead, there fore, of proposing an Ordinance with fixed pro-' risions, which it might be difficult to handle, he brought forward the present measure, which gave the Governorin Council power to frame whatever regulations might be necessary. It was the duty of this Government not to go further than the Chinese Government in this matter, as they would otherwise put the native vessels in Hongkong at a disadvantage as compared with those frequenting a Chinese port. He offered this explanation in order that the Council might fully understand the reasons which compelled the adoption of the peculiar measures proposed,
This Ordinance was read a first time.
KIDNAPPING.
The third Ordinance, the GOVERNOR then said, was, he regretted to say, rendered neces- ary by an increase of crime, almost the only kind of crime which had been on the ncrease of late in the colony, that of kidnapping, r stealing persons, chiefly children In the year 1868, the cases of this crime known to the police had been 30, (21 girls and 9 boys.) In 1867, the decrease was so remarkable that be almost doubted the accuracy of the return. Only 12 cases were shown (4 boys and 8 girls), but in the first quarter only of the present year the numbers had risen to 11 girls and 3 boys. It was certainly, necording to all English ideas, a smaller offence to steal a man's purse than to rob him of his child. The previous day he bad received a number of respectable Chinese mer- chants, and bad discussed the matter with them. telling them that he had been much grieved at the increase of this crime, but that it was im- possible for the executive to do anything if they would not take measures for co-operating with t. He asked them plainly what they suggested should be done, and they were in favour of logging the male offenders, as was proposed by this Ordinance. Solitary confinement would probably be the punishment which might in corresponding cases be inflicted on women guilty of the crime, and women, no doubt, were largely concerned in the commission of such offences. Some of the Chinese suggestions proposed that the offenders should be publicly xhibited, and their offence proclaimed, but these modes of punishment were not very Eng. lish in their character, and could hardly be in corporated in an Ordinance.
THE FIRE BRIGADE.
The next Ordinance was one which won 1, probably, be anticipated. It related to the es- tablishment of a fire brigade It would not be necessary to enter into a very long explanation: on the first reading. The Council and the com
munity at large, were, no doubt, fully as much convinced of its necessity as he himself. It
not necessary in that Ordinance to do more than organise a centre of union and activity under one chief. The Govern. meat had abandoned the principle of a volunteer corps. The voluntary principle had not been considered sufficiently reliable in an emergenny. They would gladly accept the services of those who were ready to undergo such drill and train- ing as was necessary to fit them for the work of the brigade, and he calculated on finding many ready to give them help. He was sorry to say the insurance offices had not rendered the assistance he had expected from them, but. on the other hand, the Government had received valuable aid from one quarter in which they had not looked for it. from the Chinese community. The Chinese had given security for the cost of a first-class engine, and he had some mails back ordered an engine for them, and one for the Government. He beli ved also that it might be so arranged that each of the large Hougs sbould supply a few uten to the brigade, who might attend a periodical drill. He proposed to have a paid superintendent. Without this he did not think it would he pos- sible to bave the affairs of the brigade properly attended to. In reference to the mode in which the expenses of the brigade would be met, he said that be considered the fairest plan would be to throw the cost, upon the rates levied on house property. aa the preservation of that property was the object ju view. The extra charge would probably not amount, after the first year. to LOTE than a half per cent. In his office would be found the corespondence that had taken place with the ingnace offices, to which any of the members of the council could have free access. The Chief Justice threw out a suggestion to the effect that watch towers should be built in Hongkong as in Canton.
LAW RELATING TO JURORS. The "GOVERNOR then introduced another Ordinance to amend the law relating to Jurors, The Chief-Justice had made some suggestions which he had not yet had time to embody in the draft, but these would be brought before the conneil in the second reading,
Ordinance read a first time.
PENSIONS IN THE POLICE.
The attention of the Government had lately been directed to the subject of pensions in the police There had, indeed, been one very peculiar case, in which a man had claimed a pen- sion who had not been remarkable for particular zeal. In the police force pensions pould be oh- tained with far greater ease than was possible in other branches of the civil service. He thought it was a mistake to exempt the mem- bers of the police force from the conditions to which other persons in the Government service had to submit. He had appointed a commission. consisting of the Acting Colonial Secretary. the Acting Superintendent of Police, and Mr. Goodlake, to investigate the subject, and they had drawn up a valuable report. in accordance with the recommendations of which this Ordi- nance had been prepared. The Governor in Council was empowered to frame the regula. tions under which the pensions would be conferred. He had further provided that if after a pension had been granted it could he proved that the person had been guilty of corruption, while in the service, which had not been previously discovered, it would be lawful for the Governor to stop the pension. Thai clause he considered one of great importance. It was possible that persons who might be faithful to a friend guilty of corruption, so long as he remained in the police, might not continue silent permanently. It was a great defect that the police force. "which of all others required close scrutiny, should have been in this matter of pensions comparatively exempt from all control.
The Ordinance was read a first time,
TREASONABLE OFFENCES.
He next laid on the table a circular despatch from the Secretary of State, directing the as- similation of the law in this colony relating to treasonable offences with that of the United Kingdom. There could be but one opinion as to the desirability of this step. The Orlinanes was an accurate transcript of the law on the subject prevailing at home.
The Urdinance was then read a first time.
THE STAMP ORDINANCW. The GOVERNOR next laid before thecommittee an Ordinance entitled An Ordinance enacted by the Governor of Hongkong, with the advice of the Legislative Council thereof, to amend "The Stamp Ordinance of 1866.” He did not intend that this Ordinance should at present be discussed. That would be very fully one at the
second reading, but he wisher now sex plain his views with regard to some of the changes recommended. It was with some hesitation that be set about the revision of the original tamp Ordinance, as there was a simplicity about it that be did not like to disturb. It was always very difficult in alter- ing such an Ordinance as this, to foresee what effect it would have in decreasing or increasing the revenue to be raised. During the operation of the Stamp Act, however, various peopl bad acquired practic experience of the which its provisions actually pressed on their own interests, and in this way, a number of suggestions bad arisen. He had, therefore, appointed a com- mission. consisting of the Chairman of the Chamber of Commerce, who was also a member of the Council, the Acting Treasurer, and the Collector of Stamps as the persons who could best represent the different interests concerned. This commission he intended should thoroughly digest all suggestions that might come before it, and also bring its own knowledge and experience to bear." The commission after much labor had made a very valuable report, which be laid before the council, and be took this opportunity of publicly thanking the gentlemen composing that commission for the zealous and effective manner in which they had performed the duty imposed upon them. As occupant of the chamber next to the one which they eat. be could, he said, at all evente bear testimony to the number of hours they had spent over their work, and if they had not resolved every difficulty, still they were nevertheless entitled to the thanks of the Government as well as of the community at lar. e. A great many changes were suggested in this report, some most im portant, but he could not consent to all these suggestions, and he thought there were many sections of the Ordinance and items in the schedule that would yet stand a further test of experience before they were altered for the better, while there were other suggestions that he thought for various reasons were not as feasible as those he should lay before the Council. He first called attention to the second item of the schedule. relating to Bank notes. The original Ordinance provided a tax of one per cent., but this had been reduced by the Governor and Executive Council to two-thirds. It was now suggested that a fortber reduction should be made to one half per cent. He was not aware that the present tax of two-thirds had bad the effect that had been prophesied, or that it had materially reduced the circulation of bank notes. He was aware that there were many who thought it excessive and burdensome, and the bankers said it was especially so since these wutes Isere issued solely for the nience of their customers, and were not a source of profit or revenue to the banks in any way. It appeared to him, however, that what ever the banks did, must be done for their own ultimate interest, whether it was a source of immediate pecuniary gain or not, and he could not attribute much weight to this argument. If the bankers objected to the tax, it was cer- tainly optional with them to contract or increasethe circulation.
the amount
had in reality been affected by the tax he should Cousider that the Conneil ought to pause before legislating on this sub- ject, but he found that instead of decreasing, the circulation had actually increased, as was abown by the following returns. In January, 1867, it was for the four banks now in the Colony, $1,439,000; in 1868, it was for the same four banks, $2,374.000; and in view of these fig- ures he thought there was little fear of the stamp duty operating injuriously on the issue of notes. The case for the banks was not made out so clearly as to justify him in sacrificing a source of very considerable revenue without further discussion. The Ordinance now under consider. ation would make the tax two-thirds per cent. The commission had made one very valuable suggestion of which he had availed himself, and that was that the tax should be collected monthly on the statements now regularly re- turned, instead of half yearly, as heretofore, and this, he thought, would be found a great con- venience to all. The next item be would call attention to, was No. 3 of the schedule, and be would here remark, that he did not look upon un Ordinance laid upon the table and read a frst time, as final by any means. It was merely the principle of the Ordinance to which be called attention, and not to the particular wording, The only thing that he was bound to take care of, was that the Ordinance, as amended, did not provide for a smaller revenue
than that now in existence. On the whole, he thought, it might be expected that a larger rev- enue might be raised, but the present Ordinance was merely calculated to bring up the amount to $10,000, the smallest suni that it would be possible to accept. He now came to the point that was most interesting to the munity at large, the clause relating to Billa o Exchange. They would remember that the old Ordinance was very simple in its provisions on this subject, and originally adopted a uniform charge of $1.00 on all bills of Exchange. A similar uniformity prevailed at home in reference to the postage on letters This was not a strictly equitable arrangement, and no such thing as perfect equity was obtain- able in such matters. You had to sacrifice that to obtain the great convenience of simplicity. The commission proposed one thing which he could not assent to, namely, to exempt all bills under $100. fle could not why these smaller bills should not con- tribute their share in proportion. He re- minded the council that on the 1st of October. next, post office orders would be procurable here the same as in England. Any man would then be able to send £2 for six-pence, or for 24 cents £5, without paying any stamp duty what ever. With this arrangement in force, there could be no objection to keeping up the stamp duty on the smaller bills. He declared that he was not justified-that he was not authorized--- to assent to such a step as that which the commission proposed. His own proposal was that bills under $100 should be taxed 15 cents on each of the set, or 30 cents if drawn singly. Bills exceeding this amount, and not exceeding $3,000 50 cents each part of a set, and over this anionnt 75 cents each part. This was a simpler plan than the one the commission proposed, j and on the whole more equitable. He con- tinued to read over the schedule, making a run- Puiag commentary on the various itemë, refer- ring particularly to transfer of shares; the com mission had proposed a tax of one-eighth per cent., but he wished to hear discussion on this point when the ordinance was read a second time. In conelading his remarks, he said that ene was a very simple Stamp Act, and even those opposed to the principle of stamps would confess this. He did not see how it was pos sible to make a stamp duty palatable. He thought the Council would find that the feeling of their countrymen at home, was not in favor of exempting this colony from obligations which were common to all communities, and for the discharge of which it was necessary something must be done. The Ordinance was read a first t'ine.
SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES.
The GOVERNOR theu introduced the Supple- mentary Estimates Ordinance. and said:-The Estimated Revenue and Expenditure of the Colony for 1867, was-Revenue, $980,520; Ex- pen liture $997,305.60. The actnd Revenue and Expenditure-including, for the purpose of comparison, the receipts and payments on ac- conut of the Imperial Post-Office has been, Revenne. $963,519, Expenditure, $835.032. The Revenue, however, appears more pro- ductive than it really should do, because a con- siderable portion, viz.: $66,300 is due to a sale of land. which belongs more to capital than Reveune, and because a better system of collee- tion of Taxes enabled nearly all the rates due for the year to be collected during the year. and consequently left fewer arrears out- atanding at the end. The Stamp Ordin ance having been in operation only a few months during 1887, produced only $28,282, but the mouthly collections shew that the receipts to be expected from the Schedule than in force would produce in a year about the amount estimated, viz.: $110,000. The re. ceipts from the Junk and Registration Ordi. nance have more than doubled what was expected. The Expenditure shews a decrease of about $180,000, but of this $94.000 is caused by the non-payment of the Military Contribution. which forms a debt still due by the Colony, and the remainder is principally attributable to the
postponement of important Public Works, more especially the Reservoir at Pokefulum, the re- clamation of ground at Bowrington, and the paving of streets in Taipiushan. There is also à considerably diminished charge for gaols. The nominal excess of Assets over Liabilities, at the end of 1867, was something over $25,000, or about that which was anticipated last August, when the Estimates for the current year were in course of preparation. The Supplemen tary Fatipates now submitted, amounting to nearly $135,000, are not for any addi tional expenditure, but are merely brought forward to cover certain alterations which were found necessary in the appropriation of the ex- penditure. The $135.000 now asked for, there- fore forms a portion of the $835,000 of Expendi- ture above shewn, the actual expenditure in accordance with the Origin:1 Estimates baring been only about $700,000. The detailed Estim tes to be sent round to members indicate exactly the services apon which the different appro- priations have been made. A considerable sum: is shewn as expended under the head of Police, the larger portion of which is connected with the raising and equipment of the Sikh force. In Public Works most of the alterations con- sist of small items which could not well be- foreseen a year in advance, and of payments ant estimated-because it had been anticipated that the works in respect of which the payments took place would have been completed in the previous year. The greater part of the sums required for Roads, treets, and Bridges are on account of Kowloon-the Government having been obliged to resume many of the lots sold. In Special Expenses there was a saving of most of the expenditure connected with a Colonial Gun Vessel, but the purchase and fitting of a Gunpowder Depot and a Floating Police Station, and sundry other small ex- peuses, have about exha sted the saving thus effected.
The Ordinance was read a first time, and the Council then adjourned.
The Daily Press.
HONGKONG, MAY 28TH, 1868.
The Legislative Council.
Present:
H.E. The GOVERNOR. The CHIEF JUSTICE.
The COLONIAL-SECRETARY.
The ACTING ATTORNEY-GENERAL. The AUDITOR GENERAL.
The ACTING COLONIAL-TREASURER. Hon. P. KYRIE.
Hon W. KSWICK.
Hon. J. P. DUNCANSON.
A meeting of the Legislative Council was beld on Friday, the 22nd inst., at 3 P.M.
THE NEW COLONIAL-SECRETARY. The Hon. J. G. Austin was sworn in as a member of the Counci!.
THE PIRACY COURT ORDINANCE. On the second reading of this bill, a con- versation arose in reference to various points. One point the Chief-Justice said he thought it right to suggest, though it was rather late in the proceedings to bring it forward. One great reason which had indeed His Excellency to bring forward this bill, was that delay might be avoided, but it is a statutary role in this colony that no person could be tried in the Supreme Court without having received five days notice of the indictment The Governor said the Chief-Justice would have a very good code of rules to go by, but he (the Chief-Justice) interposed with the emphatic declaration, "I shall certainly not alter the common law by any rule of mine." The Go- vernor observed that he did not think anybody was asking him to do so. The Chief Justice recurred to the necessity of giving every person five daya notice of indictment. The Governor said he was quite satisfied with the powers con- ferred by the Ordinance. The Chief Justice thought it right to say again that he could not have any power under an ordinance to alter a statute by a rule of court. The Governor thought the Chief-Justice had power to do auy. thing under this ordinance, which it authorised him to do. The Chief-Justice appealed to the Acting Attorney-Geveral for corroboration of the view be held in reference to the five days notice. "Do you think," he said that I can dispense with the necessity for giving five days notice under this ordinance ?" "Yes," the Act- ing Attorney-General thought he could. "Dis- pense with a statute!!" This is a statute. Chief-Justice," said the Governor, "as well as the other." Then Mr. D'Almada was directed to read the title of the bill, and the Council got upon another line of rails.
Had the bill to be read again or not? The Chief Justice understood the practice to be that the bill should be read a third time, and that after that it should be passed. The Auditor- General contributed some light to this subject, but Mr. Alexander laid in to rest by turning up the appropriate paragraph in the standing orders. Ordinances had to be read a second time, then to go through committee, and finally to be passed. "Then it is not read a third time?" said the Chief-Justice. No, it was not neces- sary. "We've been in committee" explained the Governor, “and now the ordinance has been read a second time and passed.”
THE DISARMAMENT OF JUNKS. The GOVERNOR said they now came to the consideration of the short, but important ordi- nance relating to the disarmament of the fish- ing-boats. Since they last met he had re- ceived a communication from the Goveru- went of Maono, to the effect that that Go- vernment had already followed the policy of the Viceroy with reference both to the fishing- boats and the stinkpots. He had not
been aware of this till the other day, nor had he even now received any copy of the Pro- clamation or ordinance, or whatever it was, by which the new regulations had been established. However, it was gratifying to know that far from having to encounter an obstacle to its new policy, the government would find a useful ally in the Government of Macao.
The Hon. W. KESWICK said that before pro ceeding further, he was anxious to express an opinion concerning the impolicy of departing from the usual rule by handing over the duty of legislation from the Legislative to the Exe- cutive Council. It was important that every thing connected with this subject should be done under the immediate eye of the Council. The GOVERNOR said this was a matter of principle, but he would propose to the Council something which had suggested itself to him that afternoon. They might pass this ordi- nano for a year only.
The CHIEF JUSTICE.-It can easily be re- newed.
The GOVERNOR.-Of course, but Mr. Kes- wick objects to trust as much to the Executive, as would be entrusted under the ordinance as it stands,
The Hon. W. KESWICK thought it very im- vortant to do nothing towards disarming the the junks before they were provided with adde- quate protection. The tride of the place depended to a large extent on the native vessels which were continually passing between this island and the mainland. It was very impor tant that nothing should be done which was calentated to interfere with that trade.
The GOVERNOR thought that observation might be a very proper due to address to the Viceroy, but our position was simply this.- shall we a lopt those regulations which will be law in any case a few miles off after the 18th of July. Whatever action we take it will not impede the force of the Viceroy's proclamation.
Mr. Keswick urged that Chinese measures were never effective. Then the pirates could come down from Chusan, and that part of the coast, and sweep these waters It would be very seriously detrimental to trade if Hong- kong book the initiative in measures of this kind. The whole existence of the place de- pended on the facility with which vessels could communicate with the shore.
Judge BALL said he did not understand that the ordinance proposed in any way to go in advance of the Cuinese Government.
Mr. Keswick thought legislation on the sub- joet was premaluru.
The GOVERNOR did not think the colony could justify itself to the Euglish Government for reinuining inactive. Mr. Keswick must re- member that it was not by any means all the shing-bouts which were armed. 46 per cent. of them carry nothing, 80 per cent. have a few old swords or maskets, and the remainder only carry a few canyon, In forbidding all vessels tocarry stinkpots they would be conferring a favour upon these half armed-boats, which far outweighed the disadvantage they would suffer in hating to give up these arus. Then it must be remembers 1 that a great deal had been done towards the suppression of piracy, and the boats would not be in the same dunger that they formerly incurred. There had only been six cases of piracy all this year, and these in fact were not cases of piracy, as the term was gene- rally understood, but mere robberies from boats, were cases of stealing. A great deal of protection was always provided. The promptitude with which the commodore sent out one or more of his gunboats, whenever there was a ense of piracy reported was most commendable. It was impossible to say that we were adopting the Chinese policy without having in the first in- stance provided a large amount of protection for the honest trader.
After some further conversution it was 'de. cided to limit the operation of the ordinance to twelve mouths, and with this alteration it was read a second time and passed.
THE KIDNAPPING ORDINANCE. The ordinance went through committee and passed
THE FIRE BRIGADE. The GOVERNOR said they now came to an ordinance in which the government had done the best it could to provide against fires.
Mr. KESWICK said that at this stage he would mention that there was a very general feeling in the community that this ordinance, which provided for the establishment of a fire brigade ut the cost of additional taxation. should not be passed. His Excellency had stated in introducing the ordmance at the last meeting of Council that the Insurauce offices had not been ready to give assistance in organ. ising a brigade. On the contrary, the offices were most anxions that a brigade should he establishel, but they were anxions that it should be a volanteer brigade, and not a govern- meut brigade. The only difficulty in the way of orgainsing a volunteer brigade was that of officering it. The volunteers would serve under a volunteer officer. He concluded by saying that be would propose the postponement of legislation on this subject.
The GOVERNOR,-Are you waiting for an- other fire ?
The AUDITOR-GENERAL said the Insurance offices would neither allow their engines to work in harmony with the others, nor would they pay nything towards the general expense of brigade.
Mr. KESWICK believed a volunteer brigade could be orgainsed, if it were not for the diff- culty about its officer.
The COLONIAL-“DORETARY,--The volunteers minst be under some officer.
The KESWICK,--Under their own.
The GOVERNOR said he would not wish it to be supposed that the government was more auxious toprotecttheproperty of the community than the comumnity was to be protected. If Mr. Keswick ould prove that the general feeling was against the formation of a brigade, there was no con- stitutional reason why the government should insist on it. The government however had been found fault with für delaying to act in this mat- ter. This delay had been in a measure caused by the Insurance offices. He had expected that Mr. Keswich would have been a warm supporter of the present effort, as in the beginning he had expressed a readiness to have the engines under his care inspected. A commission had been appointed by the representatives of the In- surance offices, and after a long delay they made a report. On this repeat, he (the Go- vernor) had a written a minute for the Execu- tive Council, which, as the discussion bad taken its present course, he would read to them. The miunte was dated 13th January. His Excel. lency then read the aiunte, in which he said that on the 10th of December he had transmitted to Mr. Keswick a report by Mr. May, on the sub- ject of a fire brigado, inquiring how far the in- surance companies would be willing to grant a paid officer of the Government power to inspect and report on the state and efficiency of their en- gines: secondly, whether they would be willing to enter any of their men as members of a Government Fire Brigade; and, thirdly, whether they would give any pecuniary aid to the formation of such a brigade :--
"After the lapse of nearly a month, the en- closed memo, containing several opinions of the sub-committee appointed to consider the matter", was banded to me by Mr. Keswick. as expres- sing the views of the Insurance Companies, and nothing can be more unsatisfactory and more barren of useful suggestions.
Whilst stating that the formation of a Volunteer Fire Brigade appears undesirable and impracticable, they think it the special: duty of Government to form a Fire Brigade, and maintain at the public expense.
"They decline placing their engines under Government inspection of any kind, and merely suggest that engines of the insurance coni- panies in future be so made that their hose should be adapted to fit the Government hy- drants, which supply the only water available in many parts of the town.
In other words, after considering the sub- ject for several weeks, they can only suggest that engines for throwing water should be so con- structed as to enable them to be supplied with water"
Mr. KESWICK said that the mistake which the Governor made in that minute was that he confounded the Insurance Offices with the com- munity. The Insurance Offices took action in the matter on behalf of the community, and the community experienced this difficulty which be had spoken of about the officers
The GOVERNOR said he could hardly be ex- pected to discern this delicate distinction, as the committee represented the Insurance Company who appointed them, but in any case it was not possible to suppose from the papers which accompanied that memo. which he had just read, that the Insurance Offices ad- vocated the establishment of a volunteer bri. gade.
Mr. KESWICK,-Your Excellency confounds the offices and the community.
The GOVERNOR. Then it is worse!" If the committee which furnished the report re- presented the community, then it was worse that they should first delay so long, and then send in such a report as that which he had re- ceived. For he would say that this report had greatly disappointed him. There was no ex- pression in it whatever of sympathy with the efforts of the Government. He appealed to Mr. Ronnie, who had been concerned in the negotiations with the offices on a previons oc- casion. to know if there bad not been an an- tagonistic feeling displayed by their represen- tatives.
Mr. Ryete said that he thought the rate pro- posed. 4 per cent., unnecessary large.
The GOVERNOR said there must be something for him to show as a means of paying for the new expense. The exact amount of the rate was a question for the Treasurer.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL,-Why not do as they do at home, and make the offices pay?
The GOVERNOR.-Perhaps Mr. Keswick would like to propose some resolution to that effect. (A laugh).
Mr. KESWICK, thought it would be a very unfair proceeding.
The GOVERNOR said he did not propose it, but at home a rate in aid of the expense of the fire brigade was charged against the Insurance Offices, and in addition to this they were patrio. tic enough to pay a considerable sun as a voluntary contribution.
Mr. KESWICK said he did not deny that the proposed ordinance was a favourable one for the Insurance Offices.
Mr. DUNCANSON thought I percent. too high, though he was not opposed to the fire brigade.
A miscellaneous discussion here ensued as to the amount which would be necessary to cover the expense of the brigade.
Mr. RENNIE said that one per cent, would only raise $15,000. The Governor did not think that the proposed rate, & per cent., would cover the cost of the brigade. At the end of this cou- versation,
The GOVERNOR turned to Mr. Keswick, and asked big whether he really wished for delay in this matter.
Mr. KESWICK thought that after the remarks that had been made. it would be better to pro- ceed with the ordinance.
The GOVERNOR observed that Mr. Keswick having spoken on behalf of the community, now thought it was time to say a word for the In- sumuco Offices. (Laughter).
The COUNCIL. then went into committee on the bill, some verbal alterations were made. after which it was read a second time and passed. THE STAMP ACT.
In committee on this ordinance the Council fixed the stamp on transfers at 50 cents per $500, with this alteration the bill was passed. The Conneil was then adjourned till the fol- lowing day at 4 p.m
Eualam hit in Gover Sir Richard by MrCommer Gespatch Ni 509 of
Atary, 1868.
THE DAILY PRESS, THURSDAY, MAY 28, 1868.
The Council met, according to appointment, on Saturday, at 4 p..
THE GAMBLING HOUSES. Mr. Keswick wished to know if he should be in order in asking His Excellency whether anything could be stated in reference to the money received under the gambling ordinance. The GOVERNOR said that properly speaking notice ought to have been given of a such a question. It was rather a difficult one to answer. There was a great deal which might be anid, and a great deal which it was important that the Council should know, but if he were to limit himself merely to correcting the misstate- ments which had been made in connexion with the subject, all the time which they had at their disposal for legislation would be takeu up. He was quite ready, however. (but only with the permission of tlie Council, as it would be a departure from the usual routine) to nuswer Mr. Keswick's question. There had been no change whatever in the aspect of this matter. Nothing had been settle as to that particular point since the subject was first imooted. The original problem still remained unsolved, namely what to do with the money if it were taken, or how to achieve the results required if it should not be taken. He would like the Council to know how consistent the policy of the Executive had been in this matter fromthefirst. [He sentfora volume of dispatches, and read some extracts from 1866 to 1868.] As far back as the 9th of May, 1867, he had said that if the Home Government could devise any simple method of relieving the police from the harrassing and demoralising duties of suppressing secret gambling-houses be would be glad to try it. He was far from saying that be had exhausted all the means which it would be possible to imagine, because be had tried all which he could think of himself. He went on, he said. in this dispatch to state that the Executive Council agreed with him in thinking that no other way remained, but that of enlist- ing the aid of Chinese on behalf of the objects which the Government had in view. Again, on the 29th May, he had argued that to expect the hearty co-operation of the Chinese, unless the amount charged for the licenses were sufficiently high to affect the profits of the licensees, by any fines for faults, either of ouis- ston or commission, would be impossible therefore any project for the issue of licenses without fees would co necessitate rei fail to accomplish the main purpose of ench licenses. From that day to this (and there were some earlier dispatches on the subject which he had not at hand just then), the opinions of the Government on this subject had been precisely the same. He could not give Mr. Keswick a better answer than was con- tained in a speech of his addressed to the Council in August last, in which he said, “what- ever addition comes to your means from that source, can only be viewed as the accidental. and unsought result of a policy to which the Government is reluctantly driven in pursuit of an object of great public importanee, and one which is entirely distinct from the acquisition of revenue." Then he had gone on to allude in this same speech to the imputation of in- terested motives on the part of the Government which were easily made, but which were without logical force till it could be shown that the Go- vernment were justified in folding their aras,, and doing nothing to repress acknowledged vils, and put down illegal nurseries of crime, or till it could be shewn that the Exeva- tion had a choice of any other experiment, If anyone could invent a means of breaking up the confederations of bad character, and getting rid of the incubus with which the government was now burdened, be would regard him as a great public benefactor. But no plan worth five minutes attention bad hitherto been sug gested. They must, moreover, remember that they were not dealing with any imaginary evil. He had long since furnished to the Secretary of State proof that, in 1865, although 15 illegal gambling haunts had been broken up in that yeur, from 1st January to 1st September, there novertheless were 35 in existence at the latter late; whilst all of the latter were the haunts of the worst characters in the plan, and were the places whers most of the burglaries and
erines were planned. He would non venture to say that the experiment which had been tried had not been unsuccessful. His attention, from the first. hai been directed.- as his earliest despatches would prove, to the danger lest the houses should be frequented by clerks and servants and thus lead to losses, tempting people of that class to the commission of small robberies. He had instituted an in quiry, however, as to the number of petty lar- conies which had taken place during several periods, and he found that the average number of eases during thirteen weeks of each year. from 1865 to 1898, had been as follows:-In the period for 1865 there had been 76 convictions and 10 cases discharged; in 1866, 58 convictions and 17 cases discharged; in 1867, in thirteen weeks previous to September, when the gambling-houses were first opened, 66 convicted and 21 discharged, and in thirteen weeks sub- sequent to the inauguration of the present sys- tem. 67 convicted and 15 discharged. Imme diately after the present houses were opened, be drew attention to the necessity of prevent- ing servants from going to these places. The licensees exerted themselves to prevent this. and he allowed them to recoup themselves for some losses which they thus incurred by a pro- portionate reduction of the fees. The fees, in- deed, had been reduced subsequently, until at the last payment they were at the rate of $14,500 a inonth, instead of $21,000, as at first. Well, the result of the efforts which the licenses made was that the figures, taking an average of thirteen weeks for this year, bað come down to 40 casos in all, that is, to less than half what they had been for the same pe- riod during the previous three years. Inclu- ding cases reported where the offenders had not been caught, the number was only 46 for the whole. There could be no record of course con- cerning the actual number of gamblers as com- pared with those of a former time, but it wea only natural to infer that if there was a great diminution in the crime of larceny by servants. it was very unlikely that the loss of money by gaming could have increased. It had to be remember, moreover, in reference to the figures just quoted. that the police returns were much more accurately kept now thun formerly, and that we might be sure all cases were recorded pow, though this could by no means be said in reference to former guars, Very few of the better, or any class of servants or Chinese clerks, could now obtain admittance to the gambling houses; to accomplish this the licensees no doubt incurred considerable loss, but the government was happily able to make it worth their while, in consequence of the present ar rangement by which the amount of the monthly fees payable by the Licensees rise or fall in proportion to their exertions to carry out the objects of Government. They had now engaged a superior class of men to watch the players. The difficulty bad been in the first instance to fix the license fees at such an amount that while it would leave the licensees profits worth having, it would render them seriously appre bensive of any additional fines which might be imposed by the Government. One difficulty however could not be got over, but this of course existed before the present system was intro- duced, just as much as now. There were always private clubs to which the better class of com- pradores, and those really charged with large sums of money could go for the purpose of gambling. At some of these houses large sums were lost, far larger than which were ever staked in the licensed houses. Some people might ask how it was now, that there should be any illegal gambling-bouses left. That bad puzzled himself at first, but the explanation appeared to be that while at the licensed houses the bank charged a commission of 7 per cent, the illegal honses held out the in- ducement of only charging 3 per cent. He would certainly not encourage gambling by making the licenses reduce their commission, moreover, no articles of jewelry could be staked at any of the legal houses, except the common Chinese gold rings, which, indeed, were taken in pledge, but simply purchased for their weight as metal-the ven lor staking money. Another reason why there were still some secret gambling houses was that a large class of persons, who were known to the police as
notorious offenders, could not venture to frequent the licensed houses, in reference more immediately to Mr. Keswick's question, he must still inform the Council that none of the money received under the license could be considered available for public per; poses. He would not deny that his reason told him that inasmuch as this money had really acerned accidentally, in consequence of a mea. sure which was introduced solely for police purposes, it was unwise not to use it. Still he could not help a certain sympathy with those who oried out, however wildly, against the ac- quisition of a revenue from such a source as this, and the Council must not expect that he would exert himself personally to obtain the use of that money for the colony. Never- theless that point was one of detail, and not of principle. If it were the only difficulty the inonoy could be thrown into the sea, and the question be this disembarrassed of this inci- dental difficulty. The amount ebarged which had already fallen to about $14.000 a month, he thought wight eventually be reduced to $10,000. That sum might possibly be sufficient to secure the zealous co-operation on the part of the license holders essential to ensure fair profits, and render their establishments more efficient for police purposes. On the whole he was fully convinced that the system had dimit- ished crime, while there was no room at all for doubt that it had increased the efficiency of the police, by ruining the chit ele- mext of corruption. That, moreover. WILS the opinion of the Chinese theinselves. When he bad lately received a number of respectable Chinese residents to confer with him as to the Kidnapping Ordinance, the subject of gambling had then arisen, and they all ad- mitted the general diminution of crime, neverthe- less some of them had declared themselves desirous that the recent legislation should be done away with. It was some time before he could reconcile this work with the admission they had previously made till, be found that they shrank from the responsibility thrown upon them by the Registration Ordinance, which compelled them to take care that the houses of which they were owners should not be couverted into gambling houses or houses of ill-fame. He had told them that they certainly must not ex- pect to see that arrangement modified in any Case These discursive remarks, however, the Governor said, had better come to an end. though the statement which he had been led by Mr. Keswick's question into making would pro- bably be not without interest to the community. The CHIEF JUSTICE asked what was the total amount of the sums which had accumulated under the gambling licenses.
The GOVERNOR said about $135,000. Mr. RYRIE asked if the Governor thought it likely that the keepers of the houses really would exclude respectable persons.
The GOVERNOR thought that very likely persons of such respectability, as, for instance, the Chairman of the Chamber of Commerce, would be able to gain admittance, but the upper class of Chinese servants would certainly find it nevessary to go to their own clubs.
Mr. RYRIE said these measures were not found necessary in other lurge Eastern cities.
JUDGE BALL said that there could be to doubt about the fact that crime had diminished in this colony.
The CHIEF JUSTICE corroborated this. Mr. RYRIE asked whether it could not be at- tributed to something else than the gambling- houses.
The CHIEF JUSTICE said that the depression of trade would naturally have the effect of in- creasing crime. What did Mr. Ryrie allude to ? Mr. RYRIE would not pretend to find an ex- planation himself.
The GOVERNOR said that if anyone liked to bring forward a motion to test the opinion of the Council on this subject, he would have no objection, if it could be done consistently with the Rules which governed their proceedings as & Legislative body. The Council he was sure was not a body which would form an opinion hastily without taking trouble and ascertaining facts.
Mr. RYRIE thought there nuust be some other means of stopping crime; other Governments did not find it necessary to resort to this ex- pedient.
The GOVERNON said that the circumstatices of Hongkong were altogether peculiar. We must adapt ourselves to circumstances, if we cannot bend them to our will, and nost nu. questionably such a policy would in Europe be wholly unjustifiable.
THE JURY ORDINANCE.
On the motion of the Chief-Justice, after a debate and division, a clause was introduced to inpower the Chief-Justice to allow juries, in all but trials for capital offences, to Petire for re- freshment. The Ordinance was then passed.
TREASON FELONY ORDINANCE. This Ordinance was also passed after a fow words of explanation from the Governor, who read a circular on the subject from the Secre- tary of State.
POLICE PENSIONS.
The GOVERNOR made some remarks on this Ordinanses, to the same effect as those which he made on its introduction. By some oversight police were exempted from the restrictions in respect to their pensions which operated against other members of the Civil Service. If they could struggle through their period of service without being positively dismissed, they seemed to establish an indefeasible claim to their pen- sions.
The Ordinance was passed after a short con- versation, and the Council adjourned.
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Governor
Sir Richard G. Mar Domes Desportch-h. 509. of 30th
May, 1868.